Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
> That is correct. Just how much work you need to apply to make it "just > work" depends on (off the top of my head): > a) Your definition of "work" > b) Your expectations > c) Your experience with Linux > d) Your free time > e) Your cranium bashing index > f) Which distro you picked > g) How much documentation you are willing, and have the time, to read. > h) Your experience with Linux > i) The size of your fingers (smaller and nimbler is better) > j) Your tolerance for small on screen keyboards (what do you think you > will have to do to get that nice large keyboard to work? Compare that > to the nice finger friendly GUI in the Internet Tablets) > k) Your tolerance for small on screen keyboards (what do you do when > you need to reply to an SMS and don't have your full size keyboard > with you, or time to set it up?) > l) How much time you are willing to spend flashing it (openmoko: > depending on size of image, up to tens of minutes. Internet tablet: > seconds. literally. no exaggeration. I was surprised myself when I > first upgraded the OS on my N800). > m) Your expectations > n) Your definition of "work" there should be an internet field equation for this ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
> I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have > the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. > else > do I have an alternative > fi > I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to > place/receive calls ans SSH into my network. So you want [to at least consider holding off until more information regarding] the upcoming Nokia N900 "Rover" Internet Tablet based on Linux [is released, including an official statement from Nokia that the tablet has all the software stacks in place to support voice via the 3G modem and not just data], which supports both wired (using an appropriate cable and switching the USB port to host mode via software readily available from the maemo extras repository which adds a nice extra friendly icon in the control panel) and bluetooth (which I recommend) keyboards. OpenSSH (or Dropbear if you are so inclined) can easily be installed from the maemo extras repository to facilitate all your logging into and out of needs. > The "Developers only" ubiquitous tag seems to suggest that it may not "just > work". That is correct. Just how much work you need to apply to make it "just work" depends on (off the top of my head): a) Your definition of "work" b) Your expectations c) Your experience with Linux d) Your free time e) Your cranium bashing index f) Which distro you picked g) How much documentation you are willing, and have the time, to read. h) Your experience with Linux i) The size of your fingers (smaller and nimbler is better) j) Your tolerance for small on screen keyboards (what do you think you will have to do to get that nice large keyboard to work? Compare that to the nice finger friendly GUI in the Internet Tablets) k) Your tolerance for small on screen keyboards (what do you do when you need to reply to an SMS and don't have your full size keyboard with you, or time to set it up?) l) How much time you are willing to spend flashing it (openmoko: depending on size of image, up to tens of minutes. Internet tablet: seconds. literally. no exaggeration. I was surprised myself when I first upgraded the OS on my N800). m) Your expectations n) Your definition of "work" I believe I saw a figure mentioned in a recent thread of "about three months" to get the Freerunner to a state where it would operate how that particular person could use it as their daily phone. I wouldn't be surprised if that was exaggerated, then again, from my own experiences I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't. Personally I have my phone in a state where it is usable as a daily phone and have been unwilling to change it since then. I prefer the annoying bugs I know to the bugs I don't since it is now my main phone and I can't really afford to risk breaking it yet again. Don't let me put you off the Freerunner any more than I already have - as evidenced by this mailing list there are clearly plenty of people who swear by and love the phone to death, but there are many people who have been sorely disappointed by the Freerunner and I don't want you only getting one side of the story and ending up disappointed yourself. Eagerly awaiting the launch of the N900 so I can ditch this Freerunner, -Ian OR Logging off for a few days to avoid the inevitable flamewar I just sparked, -Ian Pity, I really wanted FIC to succeed. -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Eric S. Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
El Wednesday, 8 de July de 2009 00:05:03 li...@kitepilot.com va escriure: > And how do you install which Debian? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner Debian bassed (with most of them extra care is needed with apt-get upgrade) http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Installation http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neovento http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Installation ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
And how do you install which Debian? Tnx! ET Timo Jyrinki writes: > 2009/7/7 Helge Hafting : >>> If alive, can the Freerunner be used reliably for business on a day to day >>> basis? >>> Under what system? > > I use it with Debian on a day to day basis. Requires more work than > eg. SHR or Om2009 distros, but then you get... Debian. I do have > Om2009 as a dual-boot option, though, for backup (and since I don't > have anything better to do with the flash storage). > >> You may also need a powered hub - I believe the >> phone won't provide power to your keyboard. > > It does. I've used both mouse and keyboard with a simple mini USB male > <-> USB female adapter. > > -Timo > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
2009/7/7 Helge Hafting : >> If alive, can the Freerunner be used reliably for business on a day to day >> basis? >> Under what system? I use it with Debian on a day to day basis. Requires more work than eg. SHR or Om2009 distros, but then you get... Debian. I do have Om2009 as a dual-boot option, though, for backup (and since I don't have anything better to do with the flash storage). > You may also need a powered hub - I believe the > phone won't provide power to your keyboard. It does. I've used both mouse and keyboard with a simple mini USB male <-> USB female adapter. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
> Will it talk to the AT&T's US network? Sure, sure. I got my FR, and called up AT&T saying I wanted a GoPhone plan and a SIM card, but I already had a phone. They didn't give me any trouble at all. > What do I tell them? You don't have to tell them anything, but I told them I had a Freerunner. The agent didn't know what it was, so I explained. They haven't contacted me since saying "You can't use THAT phone!!" so I think it's OK. NOTE: you will want to know your IMEI (it's printed on phone, under the battery) before calling, since I had some trouble getting it when they asked. The usual *#06# USSD code does not work. The agent told me to dial that, and tell him the number. When it didn't work, I had to ask what that number was called (I didn't know at the time) and quickly ask in the chat room how to find it. Lucky someone was there who knew! LOL ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
Slight correction on my part: If you already have AT&T service, there is no need to tell them anything. Just swap the SIM card out of your old phone and into the Freerunner. On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Damian Spriggs wrote: >> Will it talk to the AT&T's US network? > It does. > >> What do I tell them? > No need to tell them anything. I haven't, and have not had a problem > in the 8 months I've had my Freerunner. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
On Tuesday 07 July 2009 07:45:33 li...@kitepilot.com wrote: > Will it talk to the AT&T's US network? Yes, I just recently I got a "pay as you go" phone (cheapest phone, they would not sell just the SIM for pay-as-you-go service, but would for a contract) -- took SIM out (it was 3G-capable, but would not make FR 3G, obviously), put it into FR -- got service under OM 2008.8, 2008.12, QT extended-improved, Android, and recent OM 2009 (with Paroli). T-Mobile has very similar setup with pay-as-you-go and contract wireless service. > What do I tell them? What kind of plan/service you need, and whether you need SIM or a cheap phone -- that's all. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SOLD!!! Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
I'm getting me a Freerunner8) THANKS!!! ET PS: Gutta luv Linux... li...@kitepilot.com writes: > Yep... > Hello there... > > Apologies if I am beating the dead horse. > No pun intended... :) > > I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have > the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. > > Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)...:( > > My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows: > > If Freerunner dead then > do I have an alternative > else > if Freerunner usable then > case OS: > Openmoko: Good? ;; > Android: Good? ;; > default: What? ;; > esac > else > do I have an alternative > fi > fi > > I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day > wild imagination? > My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really > there? > > I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to > place/receive calls ans SSH into my network. > Thanks! > Enrique A. Troconis > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
li...@kitepilot.com wrote: > THANKS! :) > I did read it: > It says the the successor of the the Freerunner is canceled, but what about > the Freerunner itself? > Is it still in production? They are for sale still. and while HW development has stopped, software is still being developed for it. > If alive, can the Freerunner be used reliably for business on a day to day > basis? > Under what system? I use the freerunner as my daily mobile phone, using the "SHR unstable" software. The phone and gps parts works flawlessly. I have some problems with wifi, but that can be solved by installing a different linux kernel. > Will it talk to the AT&T's US network? Assuming that is a GSM network. There certainly are other americans using the freerunner. > What do I tell them? AT&T? Tell them you have a gsm phone and need a SIM card from them. > The "Developers only" ubiquitous tag seems to suggest that it may not "just > work". > Or does it? > If I can reliable place and receive calls, attach a REAL keyboard to it, and > open an SSH shell to my server, I want one! :) You can attach a real USB keyboard to it - sure. Connect to a network using wifi or gprs, and then you can indeed use ssh to your server too. Most of the reason for "developer phone" is that it doesn't all work "out of the box": * The phone comes with very old software, the first thing you want to do is to upgrade to a modern linux distribution. There are several to choose from. Flashing isn't that hard, but is not for _everybody_. * You can attach any USB device that linux supports. This is a lot, and definitely includes keyboards. However, you may have to change some settings to turn the phone into a "usb host" instead of being the "usb device" it usually is. Some distributions makes this easier than others. You may also need a powered hub - I believe the phone won't provide power to your keyboard. Alternatively, make a cable that can power both the phone and the keyboard at the same time. Don't think you can buy those anywhere, but there is documentation. ssh is standard software, included in most distributions. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
> the Freerunner itself? can still be ordered new, they made a lot > Is it still in production? for now > If alive, can the Freerunner be used reliably for business on a day to day > basis? get the right distrobution, yes. get it wrong no. also expect some learning curve time > Under what system? system? phone or computer? > Will it talk to the AT&T's US network? works for t-mobile just fine. > What do I tell them? gime a sim thats not tied to contract and a data plan > > The "Developers only" ubiquitous tag seems to suggest that it may not "just > work". > Or does it? it means one day everything is hunky dory, you update your phone something busts and you might need a re-flash [openmoko re-format] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
Hello, --- On Tue, 7/7/09, li...@kitepilot.com wrote: > Where does the "I can attach a REAL keyboard and open an > SSH shell" statement fit? You can try fatfingershell. I will try to release a new version these weeks ;) http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-March/005206.html The idea is to have a good terminal with a fullscreen real keyboard. (to use moc, mplayer, scripts to call/sms, mc, vi, mutt, etc.) Regards. Rafa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
> Will it talk to the AT&T's US network? It does. > What do I tell them? No need to tell them anything. I haven't, and have not had a problem in the 8 months I've had my Freerunner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
Thanks! :) In the statement: >> Openmoko:Good? 80% >> Android:Good? 60% >> default:SHR :) Is the: "I can reliable communicate using this phone" part inside the 80-60% or inside the 20-40%? Where does the "I can attach a REAL keyboard and open an SSH shell" statement fit? And finally: >> default:SHR :) What does "SHR" mean? Will it be better or worse than (fill in the blanks) Or, in other words: Which OS deliveries the most reliability on the phone so far? Which OS deliveries the most freedom? Again, thanks! I'm liking the Freerunner way better then the Iphone already... :) Enrique PS: David, yo visite una pagina WEB en Espa#ol tuya. Creo... David Reyes Samblas Martinez writes: > mmm , I was missing those "OM is dead" post this month > Just kidding > Welcome to the party > > aswering your nested if > > Freerunner dead=False > Freerunner usable=True > Openmoko:Good? 80% > Android:Good? 60% > default:SHR :) > > If Freerunner dead then >do I have an alternative > else >if Freerunner usable then >case OS: >Openmoko: Good? ;; >Android: Good? ;; >default: What? ;; >esac >else >do I have an alternative >fi > fi > > 2009/7/7 Sean Moss-Pultz : >> >> Hi Enrique >> >> Welcome. >> >> We're still around. See my announce post last month. >> >> -sean >> >> >> --Original Message------ >> From: li...@kitepilot.com >> Sender: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org >> To: community@lists.openmoko.org >> ReplyTo: List for Openmoko community discussion >> Sent: Jul 7, 2009 20:28 >> Subject: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead? >> >> Yep... >> Hello there... >> >> Apologies if I am beating the dead horse. >> No pun intended... :) >> >> I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have >> the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. >> >> Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)... :( >> >> My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows: >> >> If Freerunner dead then >> do I have an alternative >> else >> if Freerunner usable then >> case OS: >> Openmoko: Good? ;; >> Android: Good? ;; >> default: What? ;; >> esac >> else >> do I have an alternative >> fi >> fi >> >> I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day >> wild imagination? >> My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really >> there? >> >> I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to >> place/receive calls ans SSH into my network. >> Thanks! >> Enrique A. Troconis >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > -- > David Reyes Samblas Martinez > http://www.tuxbrain.com > Open ultraportable & embedded solutions > Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino > Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
2009/7/7 : > THANKS! :) > I did read it: > It says the the successor of the the Freerunner is canceled, but what about > the Freerunner itself? > Is it still in production? There is a lot of stock out there :) > If alive, can the Freerunner be used reliably for business on a day to day > basis? If your requerimets are what you specified below then yes :) > Under what system? Many to choice, but SHR/OM2009/hackabe:1/qtextended the most reliable. > Will it talk to the AT&T's US network? I can't help here > What do I tell them? Gime a Sim? > > The "Developers only" ubiquitous tag seems to suggest that it may not "just > work". > Or does it? Depending on your expectations > If I can reliable place and receive calls, attach a REAL keyboard to it, and > open an SSH shell to my server, I want one! :) then you want one > Again, thanks! > Enrique > > > > > Sean Moss-Pultz writes: > >> >> Hi Enrique >> >> Welcome. >> >> We're still around. See my announce post last month. >> >> -sean >> >> >> --Original Message-- >> From: li...@kitepilot.com >> Sender: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org >> To: community@lists.openmoko.org >> ReplyTo: List for Openmoko community discussion >> Sent: Jul 7, 2009 20:28 >> Subject: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead? >> >> Yep... >> Hello there... >> >> Apologies if I am beating the dead horse. >> No pun intended... :) >> >> I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have >> the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. >> >> Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)... :( >> >> My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows: >> >> If Freerunner dead then >> do I have an alternative >> else >> if Freerunner usable then >> case OS: >> Openmoko: Good? ;; >> Android: Good? ;; >> default: What? ;; >> esac >> else >> do I have an alternative >> fi >> fi >> >> I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day >> wild imagination? >> My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really >> there? >> >> I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to >> place/receive calls ans SSH into my network. >> Thanks! >> Enrique A. Troconis >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
mmm , I was missing those "OM is dead" post this month Just kidding Welcome to the party aswering your nested if Freerunner dead=False Freerunner usable=True Openmoko:Good? 80% Android:Good? 60% default:SHR :) If Freerunner dead then do I have an alternative else if Freerunner usable then case OS: Openmoko: Good? ;; Android: Good? ;; default: What? ;; esac else do I have an alternative fi fi 2009/7/7 Sean Moss-Pultz : > > Hi Enrique > > Welcome. > > We're still around. See my announce post last month. > > -sean > > > --Original Message-- > From: li...@kitepilot.com > Sender: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > ReplyTo: List for Openmoko community discussion > Sent: Jul 7, 2009 20:28 > Subject: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead? > > Yep... > Hello there... > > Apologies if I am beating the dead horse. > No pun intended... :) > > I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have > the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. > > Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)... :( > > My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows: > > If Freerunner dead then > do I have an alternative > else > if Freerunner usable then > case OS: > Openmoko: Good? ;; > Android: Good? ;; > default: What? ;; > esac > else > do I have an alternative > fi > fi > > I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day > wild imagination? > My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really > there? > > I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to > place/receive calls ans SSH into my network. > Thanks! > Enrique A. Troconis > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
THANKS! :) I did read it: It says the the successor of the the Freerunner is canceled, but what about the Freerunner itself? Is it still in production? If alive, can the Freerunner be used reliably for business on a day to day basis? Under what system? Will it talk to the AT&T's US network? What do I tell them? The "Developers only" ubiquitous tag seems to suggest that it may not "just work". Or does it? If I can reliable place and receive calls, attach a REAL keyboard to it, and open an SSH shell to my server, I want one! :) Again, thanks! Enrique Sean Moss-Pultz writes: > > Hi Enrique > > Welcome. > > We're still around. See my announce post last month. > >-sean > > > --Original Message-- > From: li...@kitepilot.com > Sender: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > ReplyTo: List for Openmoko community discussion > Sent: Jul 7, 2009 20:28 > Subject: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead? > > Yep... > Hello there... > > Apologies if I am beating the dead horse. > No pun intended... :) > > I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have > the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. > > Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)...:( > > My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows: > > If Freerunner dead then > do I have an alternative > else > if Freerunner usable then > case OS: > Openmoko: Good? ;; > Android: Good? ;; > default: What? ;; > esac > else > do I have an alternative > fi > fi > > I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day > wild imagination? > My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really > there? > > I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to > place/receive calls ans SSH into my network. > Thanks! > Enrique A. Troconis > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
Hi Enrique Welcome. We're still around. See my announce post last month. -sean --Original Message-- From: li...@kitepilot.com Sender: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org To: community@lists.openmoko.org ReplyTo: List for Openmoko community discussion Sent: Jul 7, 2009 20:28 Subject: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead? Yep... Hello there... Apologies if I am beating the dead horse. No pun intended... :) I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)...:( My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows: If Freerunner dead then do I have an alternative else if Freerunner usable then case OS: Openmoko: Good? ;; Android: Good? ;; default: What? ;; esac else do I have an alternative fi fi I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day wild imagination? My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really there? I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to place/receive calls ans SSH into my network. Thanks! Enrique A. Troconis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
Yep... Hello there... Apologies if I am beating the dead horse. No pun intended... :) I've been drooling over the Freerunner for years now, specifically to have the capability to plug a REAL keyboard to it and SSH into my network. Now it seems that Openmoko.com folded (or is about)...:( My flow-gram of questions goes more or less as follows: If Freerunner dead then do I have an alternative else if Freerunner usable then case OS: Openmoko: Good? ;; Android: Good? ;; default: What? ;; esac else do I have an alternative fi fi I'm so bummed that Openmoko seems to be crumbling, or is it my doom's day wild imagination? My Treo 650 died and I am ready for a Neo Freerunner, but is it really there? I can tinker freely and willingly with the phone, but I need to place/receive calls ans SSH into my network. Thanks! Enrique A. Troconis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
