Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Fernando Martins wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. How about quality of data, I mean, for instance if you have to backtrack in a road, will you have to delete the log and restart all over? How This is not how it works. You don't turn a tracklog directly into a OSM street, so this problem is avoided. 1. Walk around, with gps tracking on. 2. Using one of several possible apps, display the track on the PC, and download whatever OSM data there is for the region already. 3. So now you see some OSM data (if there were any) and your gps track on the screen. The next step then, is to draw roads using your track as a guideline. You will see where you backtracked, but you will of course draw that road only once. Your track will curve at intersections, but if you remember that the roads met at 90 degrees, then you draw them that way. 4. You also add any other information that you remember or wrote down. Such as street names, type of road, and so on. If you had several logs, then you just load all of them at the same time and draw more road lines. Essentially I'm trying to understand how burdensome (or not) it can become for a simple sightseeing to also do tracking. OSM mapping isn't complicated. You decide how much time you want to spend on it. You can draw just roads, roads with names, or even add all sorts of features like mailboxes, housenumbers, parks, parking lots... If drawing road lines becomes too much of a burden for you, just upload the traces to osm and hope that someone else will use them for drawing. A problem with this approach is that others won't know how the track was recorded, so they might make a wrong road where you crossed a lawn and things like that. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
2009/5/8 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: How about quality of data, I mean, for instance if you have to backtrack in a road, will you have to delete the log and restart all over? How This is not how it works. You don't turn a tracklog directly into a OSM street, so this problem is avoided. it's perfectly acceptable to turn a tracklog into a road, and there are tools at osm/the tangogps website to do this. i find it's only useful where i'm doing a trip at high speed. at low speed the points are so close together, that the track jags all over the place and doesn't precisely represent where i walk/cycled if you do backtrack/stop for a few moments, it's possible to delete individual points from an osm way - just click on the one you want to remove, and press delete on your keyboard (this is using potlatch, by the way). or, if you've cut a corner, extra points can be added and dragged around ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 05:58:52AM +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) I believe it's what they call an urban canyon. When you have something tall - usually a building - which reflects the GPS signals on one side of you, you will appear to be in a different position than where you really are. Whatch your HDOP values - it's the third of the slash separated values shown by TangoGPS on the main screen. If it's as much as 4.5, the position shown can easily be 30 - 40 m off. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 13:46 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Essentially I'm trying to understand how burdensome (or not) it can become for a simple sightseeing to also do tracking. OSM mapping isn't complicated. You decide how much time you want to spend on it. You can draw just roads, roads with names, or even add all sorts of features like mailboxes, housenumbers, parks, parking lots... That's great! If drawing road lines becomes too much of a burden for you, just upload the traces to osm and hope that someone else will use them for drawing. A problem with this approach is that others won't know how the track was recorded, so they might make a wrong road where you crossed a lawn and things like that. Agree. Other can use these track just as reference. I hope I can upload those tracks myself when I have more time. It's fun. Helge Hafting -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 20:24 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 05:58:52AM +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) I believe it's what they call an urban canyon. When you have something tall - usually a building - which reflects the GPS signals on one side of you, you will appear to be in a different position than where you really are. Whatch your HDOP values - it's the third of the slash separated values shown by TangoGPS on the main screen. If it's as much as 4.5, the position shown can easily be 30 - 40 m off. Thanks for the info. Very great to know more about GPS, not just track where you have been, also how to use GPS accurately. :) -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
try this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:02 +0200, pam dirac wrote: try this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! There is only one item for update OSM, how to config this program to update Google Maps? On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery (both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? Regards, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net http://palfocus.oicp.net/ ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net http://palfocus.oicp.net/ ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) Regards, Juan Lucas __ De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
perhaps you should enable gps tracking and fill in those gaps : ) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) Regards, Juan Lucas __ De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. I guess that doesn't really help you with your current problem, however, but hopefully you'll work something out. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) Regards, Juan Lucas __ De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Indeed: http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/13-Howto-contribute-to-OpenStreetMap.html Although I logged my tracks in TangoGPS, then converted them to GPX files using Prune: http://sourceforge.net/projects/prune-gps/ Before uploading to OSM. Works like a charm. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
the most i remember seeing was a command that limited the update intervals. faster updates for traveling quickly, slower for slow movement. cant say i remember where i read that though On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: it can get a bit noisy when walking though Which reminds me (getting OT now though), did anything ever come of the various GPS modes that the chipset supports? Last I remember you could issue a command to indicate if you where walking / in a car. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Joseph Reeves wrote: I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. How about quality of data, I mean, for instance if you have to backtrack in a road, will you have to delete the log and restart all over? How about connecting two pieces of log? What about changing direction 90º; if walking (or even biking or car), in reality you are not doing 90º, will be doing a diagonal or a curve, but one wants to provide to OSM a 90º road connection. Essentially I'm trying to understand how burdensome (or not) it can become for a simple sightseeing to also do tracking. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
no burden whats so ever. i just set it and forget it. if you want to modify or string log files all you need to is open the log file in any text editor and copy paste delete what have you. quality and accuracy are surprisingly good from what i have seen. only thing that messes me up are large concrete buildings or high rises in downtown areas. if you have an OSM account take a look at my gpstraces. all done with the openmoko and tangoGPS http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jerjozwik/traces On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. How about quality of data, I mean, for instance if you have to backtrack in a road, will you have to delete the log and restart all over? How about connecting two pieces of log? What about changing direction 90º; if walking (or even biking or car), in reality you are not doing 90º, will be doing a diagonal or a curve, but one wants to provide to OSM a 90º road connection. Essentially I'm trying to understand how burdensome (or not) it can become for a simple sightseeing to also do tracking. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:51 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: perhaps you should enable gps tracking and fill in those gaps : ) Sure, when I'm back. I'm happy to use these tracks to update OSM :) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:52 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: I've found that it's very enjoyable to travel somewhere not on OSM and add it later Truely ;-) SHR + TangoGPS seems stable enough, So do I. and kind enough on the battery, to let me walk around for a whole day (or rather, walk as much as I'd want to in a day) and log everywhere I go. I have used tangoGPS for 4 hour continous logging when bicycling. (56 km) IT'S GOOD! I guess that doesn't really help you with your current problem, however, but hopefully you'll work something out. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hi. You can also use the Yahoo imagery ( Yahoo imagery http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=120 It seems ok, but a little bit faint on my area. Thanks. downlading :) both on tango and gvSIG Mobile) as an alternative to Google. For urban areas, the Yahoo imagery is very nice too. What is your area of interest? When I'm city. OpenStreetMap is quite OK, although most of roads are NOT covered. but it's OK. Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) Regards, Juan Lucas __ De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: jue 07/05/2009 16:38 Para: lida_m...@163.com CC: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS I suppose you'll have to find a way to keep changing your IP address, or use a different map provider. If you really don't want to use OpenStreetMap data, gvSIG Mobile displays data from Microsoft Live Maps: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ http://www.opkg.org/package_162.html Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 14:10 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: You may have been blacklisted from Google's servers Yes, when I change the ip, it can download. But it'll be soon blacklisted again. So how can I download google map with tangoGPS? - downloading just the tiles is frowned upon in Mountain View and they block IPs that do so. You're _supposed_ to access Google Maps only through the web API. Joseph 2009/5/7 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear List, How can I use Google Map on tangoGPS. I select Google Map repository, but I can't download Google map? Is there any thing that I should change? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:54 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: Indeed: http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/13-Howto-contribute-to-OpenStreetMap.html Although I logged my tracks in TangoGPS, then converted them to GPX files using Prune: http://sourceforge.net/projects/prune-gps/ Before uploading to OSM. Works like a charm. Humm... Excellent! Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/7 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, I'm going to travel next week. And I found that there is nothing with OSM data (mountain area). And Google map looks fine :) So I hope I can download some maps before I travel :) I don't get a chance to play with TangoGPS much but if I remember correctly it supports logging so OSM can be improved, maybe someone with more knowledge in this matter can provide more details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) whats that now? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:gpsview#how_can_i_walk_into_the_river_8 On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:01 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) whats that now? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
ah yes, thats what i mean by the gps log getting noisy when walking. if you had be on bike i think it would have been fine. most of my tracking is by car or train so i dont get those : ) On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:gpsview#how_can_i_walk_into_the_river_8 On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:01 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 08:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: i use it all the time for editing the los angeles area. works great! it can get a bit noisy when walking though Yes, if you use GoogleMap. I just walking into a river :( But I didn't analysis the data yet. But how can I walk into the river??? :) whats that now? -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
2009/5/8 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:02 +0200, pam dirac wrote: try this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! There is only one item for update OSM, how to config this program to update Google Maps? that wasn't an overly helpful link. yaouh is for updating tiles you already have on your system. if there are no tiles there, it won't update anything. it's more for osm, where the tiles change in some areas by the day. in one area, google's rarely change in the space of a year. you need to select the google repository in 'config', then drag the map around to download tiles. as noted though, if you abuse the system, you will be black-listed although only for a limited time i believe. i also hear a given ip is allowed to download a limited number of tiles not through the api, before access is cut. the figure i was quoted was 1000. ymmv ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 11:15 +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/8 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:02 +0200, pam dirac wrote: try this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! There is only one item for update OSM, how to config this program to update Google Maps? that wasn't an overly helpful link. yaouh is for updating tiles you already have on your system. if there are no tiles there, it won't update anything. it's more for osm, where the tiles change in some areas by the day. in one area, google's rarely change in the space of a year. I think it's OK. well, mountain area :) you need to select the google repository in 'config', then drag the map around to download tiles. I didn't see any other repository in drop down list in yaouh. And I didn't know where to find yaouh's config file. So is there any manual to guide me though this? If there is, a link will also do. as noted though, if you abuse the system, you will be black-listed although only for a limited time i believe. Ah I just wanna download the area that I'll pass though during travel. i also hear a given ip is allowed to download a limited number of tiles not through the api, before access is cut. the figure i was quoted was 1000. ymmv Is there any server that is for public service, providing service for software like tangoGPS? Or is there any website to download zipped google maps? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
Is there any server that is for public service, providing service for software like tangoGPS? Or is there any website to download zipped google maps? http://www.openaerialmap.org/map/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use Google Map on tangoGPS
2009/5/8 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: that wasn't an overly helpful link. yaouh is for updating tiles you already have on your system. if there are no tiles there, it won't update anything. it's more for osm, where the tiles change in some areas by the day. in one area, google's rarely change in the space of a year. I think it's OK. well, mountain area :) you need to select the google repository in 'config', then drag the map around to download tiles. I didn't see any other repository in drop down list in yaouh. And I didn't know where to find yaouh's config file. when i say 'you need to select the google repository in config', i mean in tangogps, not yaouh. there is no config or setup for yaouh. it has one drop-down list, and one button this bit is very important -- the repository won't appear in yaouh's list until there are files on your system! So is there any manual to guide me though this? If there is, a link will also do. no manual, there's no need: 1. get some tiles by dragging the map around (in tangogps), 2. when you want to update them (in the case of google tiles, maybe once a year; in the case of osm tiles, maybe once every two weeks), run yaouh, 3. select the repository you want to update (in yaouh), 4. hit the triangle button (in yaouh) 5. wait. it's slow - maybe 100-200 tiles/minute? Ah I just wanna download the area that I'll pass though during travel. as long as it's fairly small, you'll be fine Is there any server that is for public service, providing service for software like tangoGPS? openstreetmap.org is the configured default repository; tango was built to use maps from there. there are several others, providing different types of data. none i know of (free, anyway - google's service is under a strict license) with the coverage of osm though Or is there any website to download zipped google maps? no, that would be against their terms and conditions try the pirate bay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
