Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-07 Thread Rahul Joshi
if you want the :beaten to death threads - search the archives for
anything i
have mailed - u'll see ones about video playback performance and others

Aha... and I was wondering.
Kindly excuse :)

i go into lots of details.

Thats what everyone wants. Props!

Rahul J


On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:38 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:36:10 +0530 Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:

  The question may have been beaten to death but the answers surely haven't
  been satisfactory. (except for this and Rasterman's.)
  The only conclusion one can derives from all previous posts is:-
  1. Everybody needs a VGA
  2. VGA wont perform as smooth as it should on this CPU
  3. We should have faster CPU (which in turn still would not matter since
 the
  bus speed is limited)
 
  I have my doubts cleared now. Thanks.

 if you want the :beaten to death threads - search the archives for
 anything i
 have mailed - u'll see ones about video playback performance and others - i
 go
 into lots of details. that is what mickey is talking about. not the
 immediate
 last few mails this week... :)

  Next.
 
  Rahul J
 
  On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote:
I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it
 upfront
   :(
It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is
happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use
 the
extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software
   bottleneck?
  
   Please... this topic has been beaten to death on the lists during the
 last
   couple of weeks.
  
   Briefly: If it's just about putting pixels on the screen, then what we
 win
   with the faster rendering speed is lost due to the smaller bus bandwith
 to
   the GPU. Plus, SD transfers go the same path, hence sharing bandwith
 with
   transferring pixel commands to the GPU.
  
   Number crunching though is almost twice as fast on the 02.
  
   Can we talk about something else now?
  
   :M:
  
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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-06 Thread thomasg
Well, it isn't that slow (on GTA01).
In fact it feels really responsive, just the launcher shows some laggs. I
guess it should be able to fix this by more agressive caching, as the
problem seems to be, that the neo loads the images/icons pretty slow.
The other problem is the starting of other apps - but I hope this also can
be improved a bit.

At least the new GUI is way more responsive as the old GTK one and more
fancy.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:44 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
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 On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:

Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
   it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i
   think and the FreeRunner should be faster.
 
  don't be so sure about that! :)
 
  Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w
 1973
   FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking)

 i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be faster on
 a
 gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't.

  Rahul J
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
  
thomasg ha scritto:
 Hi list,

 there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the
 change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many
 videos,
   too.
 So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what
 it
 behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.

 I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11
 images[1]
 (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
 It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely
 doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the
 softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will
 look
   alike.
 Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv(16
 MB, ~3.5 min)
 I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a
 500
 kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
 Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.

 P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(
   
Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized
 i
think and the FreeRunner should be faster.
  
   don't be so sure about that! :)
  
I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us
keep the freerunner in our hands :D
   
Cya!!
   
Pietro
   
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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-06 Thread Jens Fursund
So it actually slower? Why can that be?

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 Rahul Joshi[EMAIL PROTECTED]  babbled:


 Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
  
 it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i
 think and the FreeRunner should be faster.

 don't be so sure about that! :)

 Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w 1973
   FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking)
  

 i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be faster on a
 gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't.


 Rahul J


 On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

  
 On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  babbled:


 thomasg ha scritto:
  
 Hi list,

 there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the
 change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos,

 too.

 So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it
 behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.

 I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1]
 (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
 It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely
 doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the
 softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look

 alike.

 Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16
 MB, ~3.5 min)
 I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500
 kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
 Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.

 P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(

 Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
 it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i
 think and the FreeRunner should be faster.
  
 don't be so sure about that! :)


 I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us
 keep the freerunner in our hands :D

 Cya!!

 Pietro

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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:08:17 +0200 Jens Fursund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 So it actually slower? Why can that be?

i can go into details... but basically - glamo. the bus bandwidth. :/

 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 Rahul Joshi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  babbled:
 
 
  Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
   
  it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i
  think and the FreeRunner should be faster.
 
  don't be so sure about that! :)
 
  Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w
  1973   FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking)
   
 
  i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be faster on
  a gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't.
 
 
  Rahul J
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
   
  On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  babbled:
 
 
  thomasg ha scritto:
   
  Hi list,
 
  there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the
  change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos,
 
  too.
 
  So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it
  behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.
 
  I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1]
  (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
  It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely
  doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the
  softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look
 
  alike.
 
  Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16
  MB, ~3.5 min)
  I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500
  kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
  Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.
 
  P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(
 
  Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
  it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i
  think and the FreeRunner should be faster.
   
  don't be so sure about that! :)
 
 
  I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us
  keep the freerunner in our hands :D
 
  Cya!!
 
  Pietro
 
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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-06 Thread Rahul Joshi
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So it actually slower? Why can that be?
i can go into details... but basically - glamo. the bus bandwidth. :/

Hmm, so we have product here which limits itself to be run at a speed only
at which it would actually be useful/makeSense !? Interesting.

Rahul J



On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:08:17 +0200 Jens Fursund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:

  So it actually slower? Why can that be?

 i can go into details... but basically - glamo. the bus bandwidth. :/

  Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
   On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 Rahul Joshi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   babbled:
  
  
   Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the
 ASU,
  
   it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized
 i
   think and the FreeRunner should be faster.
  
   don't be so sure about that! :)
  
   Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance
 b/w
   1973   FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking)
  
  
   i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be
 faster on
   a gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't.
  
  
   Rahul J
  
  
   On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
  
   On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  babbled:
  
  
   thomasg ha scritto:
  
   Hi list,
  
   there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the
   change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many
 videos,
  
   too.
  
   So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what
 it
   behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.
  
   I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11
 images[1]
   (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
   It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely
   doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the
   softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will
 look
  
   alike.
  
   Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv(16
   MB, ~3.5 min)
   I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a
 500
   kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
   Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.
  
   P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(
  
   Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the
 ASU,
   it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized
 i
   think and the FreeRunner should be faster.
  
   don't be so sure about that! :)
  
  
   I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let
 us
   keep the freerunner in our hands :D
  
   Cya!!
  
   Pietro
  
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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-06 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote:
 I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront :(
 It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is
 happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the
 extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software bottleneck?

Please... this topic has been beaten to death on the lists during the last 
couple of weeks.

Briefly: If it's just about putting pixels on the screen, then what we win 
with the faster rendering speed is lost due to the smaller bus bandwith to 
the GPU. Plus, SD transfers go the same path, hence sharing bandwith with 
transferring pixel commands to the GPU.

Number crunching though is almost twice as fast on the 02.

Can we talk about something else now?

:M:

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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-06 Thread Rahul Joshi
The question may have been beaten to death but the answers surely haven't
been satisfactory. (except for this and Rasterman's.)
The only conclusion one can derives from all previous posts is:-
1. Everybody needs a VGA
2. VGA wont perform as smooth as it should on this CPU
3. We should have faster CPU (which in turn still would not matter since the
bus speed is limited)

I have my doubts cleared now. Thanks.

Next.

Rahul J

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote:
  I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront
 :(
  It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is
  happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the
  extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software
 bottleneck?

 Please... this topic has been beaten to death on the lists during the last
 couple of weeks.

 Briefly: If it's just about putting pixels on the screen, then what we win
 with the faster rendering speed is lost due to the smaller bus bandwith to
 the GPU. Plus, SD transfers go the same path, hence sharing bandwith with
 transferring pixel commands to the GPU.

 Number crunching though is almost twice as fast on the 02.

 Can we talk about something else now?

 :M:

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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:36:10 +0530 Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 The question may have been beaten to death but the answers surely haven't
 been satisfactory. (except for this and Rasterman's.)
 The only conclusion one can derives from all previous posts is:-
 1. Everybody needs a VGA
 2. VGA wont perform as smooth as it should on this CPU
 3. We should have faster CPU (which in turn still would not matter since the
 bus speed is limited)
 
 I have my doubts cleared now. Thanks.

if you want the :beaten to death threads - search the archives for anything i
have mailed - u'll see ones about video playback performance and others - i go
into lots of details. that is what mickey is talking about. not the immediate
last few mails this week... :)

 Next.
 
 Rahul J
 
 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote:
   I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront
  :(
   It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is
   happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the
   extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software
  bottleneck?
 
  Please... this topic has been beaten to death on the lists during the last
  couple of weeks.
 
  Briefly: If it's just about putting pixels on the screen, then what we win
  with the faster rendering speed is lost due to the smaller bus bandwith to
  the GPU. Plus, SD transfers go the same path, hence sharing bandwith with
  transferring pixel commands to the GPU.
 
  Number crunching though is almost twice as fast on the 02.
 
  Can we talk about something else now?
 
  :M:
 
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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
thomasg ha scritto:
 Hi list,
 
 there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the 
 change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too.
 So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it 
 behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.
 
 I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] 
 (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
 It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely 
 doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the 
 softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look alike.
 Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 
 MB, ~3.5 min)
 I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 
 kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
 Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.
 
 P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(
 
 

Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, 
it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i 
think and the FreeRunner should be faster.

I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us 
keep the freerunner in our hands :D

Cya!!

Pietro

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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread Kalle Happonen
thomasg wrote:
 Hi list,

 there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the 
 change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too.
 So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it 
 behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.

 I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] 
 (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
 It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely 
 doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the 
 softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look 
 alike.
 Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 
 MB, ~3.5 min)
 I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 
 500 kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
 Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.

 P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(

Thanks for the great vid. It's exciting to see what we'll be able to get 
our hands on. And epic music :). And my 2 cents (eurocents), 
downloadable real video  flash in most cases.

Kalle


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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread Kyle Gordon
Kalle Happonen wrote:
 thomasg wrote:
   
 Hi list,

 there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the 
 change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too.
 So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it 
 behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.

 I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] 
 (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
 It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely 
 doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the 
 softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look 
 alike.
 Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 
 MB, ~3.5 min)
 I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 
 500 kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
 Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.

 P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(
 

 Thanks for the great vid. It's exciting to see what we'll be able to get 
 our hands on. And epic music :). And my 2 cents (eurocents), 
 downloadable real video  flash in most cases.

 Kalle

   
2 eurocents is about... 10 yankee dinar? :-)

However, good work folks. It's great to see it all coming together so 
nicely :-D

Kyle


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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 thomasg ha scritto:
  Hi list,
  
  there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the 
  change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too.
  So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it 
  behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.
  
  I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] 
  (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
  It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely 
  doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the 
  softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look alike.
  Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 
  MB, ~3.5 min)
  I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 
  kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
  Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.
  
  P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(
 
 Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, 
 it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i 
 think and the FreeRunner should be faster.

don't be so sure about that! :)

 I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us 
 keep the freerunner in our hands :D
 
 Cya!!
 
 Pietro
 
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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread Rahul Joshi
  Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
 it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i
 think and the FreeRunner should be faster.

don't be so sure about that! :)

Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w 1973
 FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking)

Rahul J


On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
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 On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

  thomasg ha scritto:
   Hi list,
  
   there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the
   change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos,
 too.
   So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it
   behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.
  
   I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1]
   (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
   It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely
   doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the
   softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look
 alike.
   Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16
   MB, ~3.5 min)
   I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500
   kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
   Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.
  
   P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(
 
  Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
  it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i
  think and the FreeRunner should be faster.

 don't be so sure about that! :)

  I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us
  keep the freerunner in our hands :D
 
  Cya!!
 
  Pietro
 
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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

   Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
  it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i
  think and the FreeRunner should be faster.
 
 don't be so sure about that! :)
 
 Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w 1973
  FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking)

i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be faster on a
gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't.

 Rahul J
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
   thomasg ha scritto:
Hi list,
   
there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the
change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos,
  too.
So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it
behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.
   
I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1]
(that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely
doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the
softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look
  alike.
Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16
MB, ~3.5 min)
I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500
kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.
   
P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(
  
   Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU,
   it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i
   think and the FreeRunner should be faster.
 
  don't be so sure about that! :)
 
   I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us
   keep the freerunner in our hands :D
  
   Cya!!
  
   Pietro
  
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Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-04 Thread thomasg
Hi list,

there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the change
in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too.
So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it behaves
like and some of the next-generation apps.

I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] (that's
what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely doesn't
show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the softwareguys at
openmoko are working on and what the future will look alike.
Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 MB,
~3.5 min)
I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 kbps
h264 with vorbis sound.
Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.

P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(
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Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-04 Thread wim . delvaux
On Thursday 05 June 2008 01:38:03 thomasg wrote:
 Hi list,

 there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the change
 in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too.
 So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it
 behaves like and some of the next-generation apps.

 I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1]
 (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around.
 It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely doesn't
 show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the softwareguys at
 openmoko are working on and what the future will look alike.
 Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 MB,
 ~3.5 min)
 I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500
 kbps h264 with vorbis sound.
 Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want.

 P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :(

That's more like it !

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