MC Navi 0.3.3 released

2012-02-21 Thread Mike
Hello everyone,

there is new version of MC Navi 0.3.3, main changes are in osm2mcm converter,
especially in sea generation.

More info here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

I have converted some maps, download here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=4

Hope someone find it useful.

Have a nice day

Mike

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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Crash

Please wait some time for new version with completely rewritten converter, it
will allow large areas, though currently I don't know anything about
conversion time.
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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-09-22 Thread Sylvain Paré
still
Map statistics:
--
Nodes: 890297
Sectors: 5101
Segments: 935455
Ways: 105291
Planes: 698047
Countries: 1
Cities: 2
Streets: 0
Addresses: 0
POIs: 21369
Done

both with personally computed boundaries file and precomputed file from
MCnavi site
with this osm file
http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/france/bretagne.osm.bz2

If someone has the reason of this
Thx..

Sylvain

2010/9/21 Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com


 Hi,

 the output code looks good, but it seems that cities where not assigned to
 country, so you have no cities and addresses (something with country
 boundary).

 There is new version 0.2.13 with some improvements in itinerary and
 routing.
 This is only small update, the next big step is going forward - better map
 conversion, also bigger maps and select of features in map.

 Currently I use it successfully for navigation and orientation, there are
 some features missing, but I will evolve it in future - slowly, only in
 spare time...

 Mike
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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-09-21 Thread Mike Crash

Hi,

the output code looks good, but it seems that cities where not assigned to
country, so you have no cities and addresses (something with country
boundary).

There is new version 0.2.13 with some improvements in itinerary and routing.
This is only small update, the next big step is going forward - better map
conversion, also bigger maps and select of features in map.

Currently I use it successfully for navigation and orientation, there are
some features missing, but I will evolve it in future - slowly, only in
spare time...

Mike
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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-08-30 Thread Sylvain Paré
Anyone ?

2010/8/24 Sylvain Paré sylvain.p...@gmail.com

 Hello Mike,

 thanks for your software!
 But unfortunatly for me I could not test it yet in France because of
 missing map for my country
 and because each time I try to make my map I do not succed. Or not
 completely
 I took the boundary file provided 
 herehttp://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
 and a region from France from geofabrik to test the generation and here is
 the output:

 osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm map.osm
 Import data from map.osm
 Import data 100%
 Sorting nodes 100%
 Process multipolygons 100%
 Process cities 100%
 Process nodes 100%
 Process ways 100%
 Sorting ways 100%
 Process relations 100%
 Sorting segments 100%
 Sorting sectors 100%
 Reindex segments 100%
 Sorting planes 100%
 Sorting POIs 100%
 Cleaning nodes 100%

 Sorting countries
 Sorting cities
 Sorting streets
 Sorting addresses
 Writing nodes 100%
 Writing cross 100%
 Writing segments 100%
 Writing ways 100%
 Writing plane sectors 100%
 Writing plane index 100%
 Writing planes 100%

 Writing cities
 Writing streets
 Writing addresses
 Writing POIs 100%

 Map statistics:
 --
 Nodes: 193498
 Sectors: 2978
 Segments: 204215
 Ways: 24065
 Planes: 43547
 Countries: 0
 Cities: 0
 Streets: 0
 Addresses: 0
 POIs: 4768
 Done

 Is it normal to have those statistics? Of corse the generated map does not
 work in MCNavi : can't find any city...
 Thanks by advance for your help!

 Regards,

 Sylvain (aka GarthPS)


 2010/8/23 Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com


 Boundaries are needed for correct assigning of cities and addresses to
 country. It is actually don't needed, if routing to address is not
 required.
 The use of continent boundary extracts (from cloudmate) is needed, because
 country extract has broken boundaries - the cut area sometimes splits
 them.

 For large memory requirements - I'm currently working on more
 functionality
 (itinerary, click routing etc.). In parallel I think about optimizing of
 map
 and converting process. I need small map, so optimizing is not my current
 priority. But it will be next step, as I do what I want to do :). Please
 be
 patient (I have job and family).


 Thomas Franck wrote:
 
  You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download
  precomputed
  boundary extract from
 
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
  and then use with -bi option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it
 is
  too large
  to fit into memory space)
 
  Oh.. ic...  though, as I stated in the other mail.. I was under the
  impression that we needed the continent boundary to do countries..?
  does that mean we can use like germany boundary and do cities and areas?
 
 

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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-08-24 Thread Sylvain Paré
Hello Mike,

thanks for your software!
But unfortunatly for me I could not test it yet in France because of missing
map for my country
and because each time I try to make my map I do not succed. Or not
completely
I took the boundary file provided
herehttp://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
and a region from France from geofabrik to test the generation and here is
the output:

osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm map.osm
Import data from map.osm
Import data 100%
Sorting nodes 100%
Process multipolygons 100%
Process cities 100%
Process nodes 100%
Process ways 100%
Sorting ways 100%
Process relations 100%
Sorting segments 100%
Sorting sectors 100%
Reindex segments 100%
Sorting planes 100%
Sorting POIs 100%
Cleaning nodes 100%

Sorting countries
Sorting cities
Sorting streets
Sorting addresses
Writing nodes 100%
Writing cross 100%
Writing segments 100%
Writing ways 100%
Writing plane sectors 100%
Writing plane index 100%
Writing planes 100%

Writing cities
Writing streets
Writing addresses
Writing POIs 100%

Map statistics:
--
Nodes: 193498
Sectors: 2978
Segments: 204215
Ways: 24065
Planes: 43547
Countries: 0
Cities: 0
Streets: 0
Addresses: 0
POIs: 4768
Done

Is it normal to have those statistics? Of corse the generated map does not
work in MCNavi : can't find any city...
Thanks by advance for your help!

Regards,

Sylvain (aka GarthPS)


2010/8/23 Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com


 Boundaries are needed for correct assigning of cities and addresses to
 country. It is actually don't needed, if routing to address is not
 required.
 The use of continent boundary extracts (from cloudmate) is needed, because
 country extract has broken boundaries - the cut area sometimes splits them.

 For large memory requirements - I'm currently working on more functionality
 (itinerary, click routing etc.). In parallel I think about optimizing of
 map
 and converting process. I need small map, so optimizing is not my current
 priority. But it will be next step, as I do what I want to do :). Please be
 patient (I have job and family).


 Thomas Franck wrote:
 
  You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download
  precomputed
  boundary extract from
 
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
  and then use with -bi option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it
 is
  too large
  to fit into memory space)
 
  Oh.. ic...  though, as I stated in the other mail.. I was under the
  impression that we needed the continent boundary to do countries..?
  does that mean we can use like germany boundary and do cities and areas?
 
 

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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-08-23 Thread Mike Crash

Boundaries are needed for correct assigning of cities and addresses to
country. It is actually don't needed, if routing to address is not required.
The use of continent boundary extracts (from cloudmate) is needed, because
country extract has broken boundaries - the cut area sometimes splits them.

For large memory requirements - I'm currently working on more functionality
(itinerary, click routing etc.). In parallel I think about optimizing of map
and converting process. I need small map, so optimizing is not my current
priority. But it will be next step, as I do what I want to do :). Please be
patient (I have job and family).


Thomas Franck wrote:
 
 You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download
 precomputed
 boundary extract from
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
 and then use with -bi option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it is
 too large
 to fit into memory space)
 
 Oh.. ic...  though, as I stated in the other mail.. I was under the
 impression that we needed the continent boundary to do countries..?
 does that mean we can use like germany boundary and do cities and areas?
 
 

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Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-08-12 Thread Thomas Franck
Hi..

I decided to give the converting another go.. but I keep running into
the same problem:

 az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah
 total 70G
 drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 .
 drwxrwxrwx 9 root  root  4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 ..
 -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral  60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm
 -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm
 az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm
 Error opening file!
 Error parsing file europe.osm
 az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$

does anyone else has that problem?
it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be?

Any pointers welcome.. and I don't mean these: http://xkcd.com/138/ ;)

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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-08-12 Thread Sylvain Paré
Hi
yes  have the same problem while trying to convert the France.
I am wondering if it is not a matter of size...france and germany does quite
the same size.
I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :)
But yes please someone help us on this error
Error opening file!
And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file because

cat france.osm works for me.

thanks!

Sylvain (aka GarthPS)

2010/8/12 Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com

 Hi..

 I decided to give the converting another go.. but I keep running into
 the same problem:

  az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah
  total 70G
  drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 .
  drwxrwxrwx 9 root  root  4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 ..
  -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral  60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm
  -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm
  az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm
  Error opening file!
  Error parsing file europe.osm
  az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$

 does anyone else has that problem?
 it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be?

 Any pointers welcome.. and I don't mean these: http://xkcd.com/138/ ;)

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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-08-12 Thread Thomas Franck
Hi..

 I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :)

I was under the impression that we need the continent boundary so that
the map for the countries can be made..


 Error opening file!
 And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file
 because
 cat france.osm works for me.

I wonder if osm2mcmap needs the osm file in a special place.. or name..
but I also renamed europe to map (as that is used in the instructions on
the website) and it gave the same error..

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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-08-12 Thread Sylvain Paré
It could very helpfull if Mike Crash or those whom succeded in making map
like Davide Scaini could bive us some informations..


2010/8/12 Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com

 Hi..

  I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :)

 I was under the impression that we need the continent boundary so that
 the map for the countries can be made..


  Error opening file!
  And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file
  because
  cat france.osm works for me.

 I wonder if osm2mcmap needs the osm file in a special place.. or name..
 but I also renamed europe to map (as that is used in the instructions on
 the website) and it gave the same error..

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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-08-12 Thread Vladimir Koutny
Hi,

 az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah
 total 70G
 drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 .
 drwxrwxrwx 9 root  root  4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 ..
 -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral  60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm
 -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm
 az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm
 Error opening file!
 Error parsing file europe.osm
 az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$

You have 32bit system and you need to enable largefile support while building
osm2mcmap - add these defines while building:

CFLAGS=`getconf LFS_CFLAGS` ./configure
(usually expands to -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64)

This will help with opening the file - but still the conversion will fail 
(somewhere
around 7%) due to small address-space in 32bit mode (osm2mcmap loads the whole 
file
into memory...)


You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download precomputed
boundary extract from 
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
and then use with -bi option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it is too 
large
to fit into memory space)

Regards,
  Vlado


 
 does anyone else has that problem?
 it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be?
 
 
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Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-08-12 Thread Thomas Franck
Hi..

On 08/12/2010 10:16 PM, Vladimir Koutny wrote:

 You have 32bit system and you need to enable largefile support while building
 osm2mcmap - add these defines while building:
 
 CFLAGS=`getconf LFS_CFLAGS` ./configure
 (usually expands to -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64)
 
 This will help with opening the file - but still the conversion will fail 
 (somewhere
 around 7%) due to small address-space in 32bit mode (osm2mcmap loads the 
 whole file
 into memory...)

Excellent pointer! thank you.. will have to look into those 64bit..
finally a reason to change! :D


 You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download 
 precomputed
 boundary extract from 
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
 and then use with -bi option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it is too 
 large
 to fit into memory space)

Oh.. ic...  though, as I stated in the other mail.. I was under the
impression that we needed the continent boundary to do countries..?
does that mean we can use like germany boundary and do cities and areas?

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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-07-09 Thread Petr Vanek
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 05:25:53 -0700 (PDT)
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com (MC) wrote:


Hi all,

I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
(hope) and have some improvements:
- added support for orchards
- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
- added GPS menu with satellites
- draw the street names

More info here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

This version needs new map, download at:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
If marked with (old/uncompatible - do not use), do not download it, it
is old version. I will regenerate it in some days.

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Hi,

i have installed mcnavi during my holidays in past 2 weeks, downloaded
a map of cz from here
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=4
, mcnavi starts but no map is displayed... is this the new map format
already?

thank you

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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-07-09 Thread Sylvain Paré
Hello,

I did nearly the same thing for France and I had the same issue!
osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb france.osm.administrative
all good then
osm2mcmap -bi europe.administrative.mcb -mo map.mcm france.osm
= Error opening file! Error parsing file france.osm   (which is about 12Go)

And a cat france.osm works, so it is not a permission issue.

So help is welcome too!

++

2010/7/8 undrwater undrwa...@verizon.net



 Mike Crash wrote:
 
 
  All is here:
  http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1
 
  If you have problems with boundary data, download boundary OSM file from
  Cloudmate at
  http://downloads.cloudmade.com
  e.g.
 
 http://downloads.cloudmade.com/north_america/united_states/washington/washington.osm.administrative.bz2
 
  I have not tried for US, there are only boundaries for states (e.g.
  Washington), not the whole country, it may not have complete (closed
  polygon) boundaries. Also you should skip the boundaries step, but this
  may omit the addresses.
 
  I will do some experiments with USA and Germany in the (near) future. The
  development is not over, 0.2.11 is out with itinerary...
 

 If you do experiment with USA, here's a request for California.

 I just did the following:
 Downloaded: california.osm.administrative.bz2, california.osm.bz2
 Extracted: both using bunzip2

 Ran: osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb california.osm.administrative
 which created boundary.mcb without errors

 Ran: osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm california.osm
 which reports: Error opening file! Error parsing file california.osm
 as before.

 Is this the correct sequence?

 Thanks!
 Russell Dwiggins

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RE: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-07-08 Thread undrwater


Mike Crash wrote:
 
 
 All is here:
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1
 
 If you have problems with boundary data, download boundary OSM file from
 Cloudmate at
 http://downloads.cloudmade.com
 e.g.
 http://downloads.cloudmade.com/north_america/united_states/washington/washington.osm.administrative.bz2
 
 I have not tried for US, there are only boundaries for states (e.g.
 Washington), not the whole country, it may not have complete (closed
 polygon) boundaries. Also you should skip the boundaries step, but this
 may omit the addresses.
 
 I will do some experiments with USA and Germany in the (near) future. The
 development is not over, 0.2.11 is out with itinerary...
 

If you do experiment with USA, here's a request for California.

I just did the following:
Downloaded: california.osm.administrative.bz2, california.osm.bz2
Extracted: both using bunzip2

Ran: osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb california.osm.administrative
which created boundary.mcb without errors

Ran: osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm california.osm
which reports: Error opening file! Error parsing file california.osm
as before.

Is this the correct sequence?

Thanks!
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RE: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-07-04 Thread Mike Crash


undrwater wrote:
 
 
 is it possible to add more detail to your map conversion instructions?  I
 have tried several times to do a conversion for portions of the USA
 without
 success.
 
 I believe the problems I've had relate to the difference between .osm and
 administrative.osm files.  
 
 Thank you!
 
 Russell Dwiggins
 
 

All is here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

If you have problems with boundary data, download boundary OSM file from
Cloudmate at
http://downloads.cloudmade.com
e.g.
http://downloads.cloudmade.com/north_america/united_states/washington/washington.osm.administrative.bz2

I have not tried for US, there are only boundaries for states (e.g.
Washington), not the whole country, it may not have complete (closed
polygon) boundaries. Also you should skip the boundaries step, but this may
omit the addresses.

I will do some experiments with USA and Germany in the (near) future. The
development is not over, 0.2.11 is out with itinerary...



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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-30 Thread Petr Vanek
I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
(hope) and have some improvements:
- added support for orchards
- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
- added GPS menu with satellites
- draw the street names

sounds cool, could we please update the 0.2.5 in shr?
thank you very much

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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-30 Thread Martin Jansa
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 08:04:03AM +0200, Petr Vanek wrote:
 I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
 (hope) and have some improvements:
 - added support for orchards
 - draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
 - added GPS menu with satellites
 - draw the street names
 
 sounds cool, could we please update the 0.2.5 in shr?

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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-29 Thread Davide Scaini
I'll update italy map as soon as i have some spare time :)
d

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:


 You forget -m switch, run it as

 mcnavi -m belgium-map-12022010.mcm


 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
 
  Hi Mike,
 
  sounds cool... installed Debian package from your repository, and
  downloaded belgium map just for a try:
 
  $ mcnavi belgium-map-12022010.mcm
  Cannot open map
 
 

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RE: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-29 Thread Russell Dwiggins

|I don't know, Germany is huge, so I have not even tried  to convert it. But
|it would be possible to convert smaller area. As I finish some
|functionality
|I need, the next step will be optimizing map conversion. My goal is to
|convert the whole Europe in one map if possible.
|
is it possible to add more detail to your map conversion instructions?  I
have tried several times to do a conversion for portions of the USA without
success.

I believe the problems I've had relate to the difference between .osm and
administrative.osm files.  

Thank you!

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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-29 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
d'oh... thanks -- I thought that I cut/pasted the command from 
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, Mike Crash wrote:
 You forget -m switch, run it as

 mcnavi -m belgium-map-12022010.mcm
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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-28 Thread Thomas Franck
On 09.06.2010 14:25, Mike Crash wrote:
 
 I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
 (hope) and have some improvements:

Nice.. Looking forward to it.. :)


 This version needs new map, download at:

Do you think it would be possible to have a Germany map there, too?
I tried creating/converting a map the other day, but that was no good..
:P :(

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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi Mike,

sounds cool... installed Debian package from your repository, and
downloaded belgium map just for a try:

$ mcnavi belgium-map-12022010.mcm   
Cannot open map

strace shows:

open(/usr/share/mcnavi/maps/map.mcm, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)

and quick grepping confirms that path is compiled in:

$ dpkg -L mcnavi | xargs grep map.mcm
Binary file /usr/bin/mcnavi matches


On Wed, 09 Jun 2010, Mike Crash wrote:


 Hi all,

 I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
 (hope) and have some improvements:
 - added support for orchards
 - draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
 - added GPS menu with satellites
 - draw the street names

 More info here:
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

 This version needs new map, download at:
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
 If marked with (old/uncompatible - do not use), do not download it, it is
 old version. I will regenerate it in some days.
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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-28 Thread Mike Crash

I don't know, Germany is huge, so I have not even tried  to convert it. But
it would be possible to convert smaller area. As I finish some functionality
I need, the next step will be optimizing map conversion. My goal is to
convert the whole Europe in one map if possible.


Thomas Franck wrote:
 
 On 09.06.2010 14:25, Mike Crash wrote:
 
 I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
 (hope) and have some improvements:
 
 Nice.. Looking forward to it.. :)
 
 
 This version needs new map, download at:
 
 Do you think it would be possible to have a Germany map there, too?
 I tried creating/converting a map the other day, but that was no good..
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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-28 Thread Mike Crash

You forget -m switch, run it as

mcnavi -m belgium-map-12022010.mcm


Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 sounds cool... installed Debian package from your repository, and
 downloaded belgium map just for a try:
 
 $ mcnavi belgium-map-12022010.mcm   
 Cannot open map
 
 

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MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-09 Thread Mike Crash

Hi all,

I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
(hope) and have some improvements:
- added support for orchards
- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
- added GPS menu with satellites
- draw the street names

More info here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

This version needs new map, download at:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
If marked with (old/uncompatible - do not use), do not download it, it is
old version. I will regenerate it in some days.

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-17 Thread Mike Crash

yes, I plan to add other toolkits in future, but the first will be bada
or windows. But this is very far future


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 given the current state of navit on the n900, it would be interesting to  
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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-09 Thread arne anka
had a short glance over the sources.
did you mix your algorithm inseparably with  
illume/esomething/whatever-the-name? or would it be possible to add  
another toolkit's interface to it?
given the current state of navit on the n900, it would be interesting to  
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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-06 Thread Frank
Am 01.04.2010 10:31, schrieb Mike Crash:
 
 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?
 
 Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
 Just to know, what to do next...
 
 Thanks
 
 Mike

Hi,

germany for cars, please

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-06 Thread Cry
Mike Crash mike at mikecrash.com writes:

 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

Mike, can you give a brief rundown on why MC Navi instead of navit or tangogps?

What benefit comes from this new project?  Why should a user consider switching?

Thanks!

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-06 Thread Mike Crash

It's up to everyone to try and cry.

But for me - I want functionality, that is not present in both navit and
tangogps. And I want functionality, that is not present in any navigation I
know.

1. Create route by clicking on crossroads - I need it for cycling (not
implemented yet)
2. Sport tester with stopwatch, distance meter and track log (running,
cycling), what I missing is pulse meter (what about bluetooth sensor?)
3. show tourist roads and cycle roads (not implemented yet)
4. switch different views of map  - car/cycle/foot/... (not implemented yet)
5. save and upload track logs to web
6. contours
and anything what I find usefull

I know, I'm at the beginning. And if someone finds it useful, I will be
glad.

And what about TangoGPS? Very good bitmap navigation, I use it too, but
needs large amount of data to download, hard to update maps, no navigation
at all etc.
And navit? On freerunner unusable, very slow redraw, very slow routing, ugly
voice, hard to extendible


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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-05 Thread Mike Crash

OK, MC Navi 0.2.6 was out and now 0.2.7 is out :)

What's new:
- bookmarks
- added chrono and distance meter
- improved gpx logging
- basic config file

Also some converted countries are for download.

More info here:

http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-02 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 02:58:59AM -0800, Mike Crash wrote:
 
 Yes, it is compatible with 2.90, just uncomment in mgps.h
 
 #define GPSD_API_19 1
 
 I will attempt to autodetect gpsd version, but it seems the version
 number in gps.h is the same as in previous version, so currently I don't
 know how

Thanks, rebuilt in feeds again.

BTW: in new version can you replace INSTALL link with actuall file? It
fails to make install on systems where is different version of automake 
installed. Now temporary replaced with empty file in bb recipe.

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-02 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Xoves, 1 de Abril de 2010, Mike Crash escribiu:
 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

Spain, please

 Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
 Just to know, what to do next...

Car 

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-02 Thread Vaudano Luca
Italy
Car

Thanks, great job!!!

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MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Mike Crash

Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
Just to know, what to do next...

Thanks

Mike
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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Чтв, 01/04/2010 в 00:31 -0800, Mike Crash пишет:

 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

Russia plz. I've tried to convert the map myself but on my quad G5 with
4.5Gb of RAM it segfaulted during the sorting ways process.

 Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
 Just to know, what to do next...

car navigation.

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Finland, car

Thanks!!

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 01 April 2010, Mike Crash wrote:
 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

I use Cloudmade's europe.navit.bin at the moment. It's 1.2GB but the flash 
card is big enough, and I'm unlikely to be caught with the wrong map.
 
 Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
 Just to know, what to do next...

Car, cycling and walking, in roughly equal measures. 

 Thanks
 
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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:31:12AM -0800, Mike Crash wrote:
 
 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

Hi, is new version compatible with gpsd-2.90?
mcnavi is failing to build in shr feeds for almost a month :/

http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg58389.html

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Thursday 01 April 2010 10:31:12 Mike Crash wrote:
 
 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?
 
 Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
 Just to know, what to do next...

Netherlands, car please :)


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Re: MC Navi released

2010-04-01 Thread Mike Crash


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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Mike Crash

Yes, it is compatible with 2.90, just uncomment in mgps.h

#define GPSD_API_19 1

I will attempt to autodetect gpsd version, but it seems the version
number in gps.h is the same as in previous version, so currently I don't
know how

Mike


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 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make
 maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you
 need?
 
 Hi, is new version compatible with gpsd-2.90?
 mcnavi is failing to build in shr feeds for almost a month :/
 
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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2010-04-01, czw o godzinie 00:31 -0800, Mike Crash pisze:
 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?
Hi Mike,
Poland please :)
 
 Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
 Just to know, what to do next...
Definitely car
Additionally it would be great if MCNavi would read Cloudmade's maps
binary format. Or generally some vector based map format.

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Re: MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Chuck Norris
01.04.2010 15:31, Mike Crash пишет:
 Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
 available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

 Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
 Just to know, what to do next...

 Thanks

 Mike
   
Hi, Mike!
Country - russia
prefer - outdoor


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RE: MC Navi

2010-04-01 Thread Russell Dwiggins
|
|Hello, I'm going to release new version of MC Navi and I want to make maps
|available for direct download. So I want to ask, what country do you need?

US, please :)
|
|Second question - what do you prefer, car navigation or outdoor navigation?
|Just to know, what to do next...
|

Car first, outdoor second (does off-road qualify?)
 
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-04 Thread Neil Jerram
On 3 March 2010 17:08, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:32:51PM +, Neil Jerram wrote:
 On 3 March 2010 16:08, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

  Or some already existing patch for compatibility with gpsd-2.90?

 That's an interesting question.  Are you considering gpsd for SHR,
 instead of ogpsd + fso-gpsd?

 AFAIK gpsd was always built in SHR at least as gpsd.h provider etc. And it was
 updated to 2.90 about a week ago. On device there is fso-gpsd and then libgps
 now version libgps19 (2.90-r4.0.4).

Ah, OK.  To explain my interest a bit, which I hope will eventually
explain my question...

I was playing a week or so ago with my FR as a GPS receiver over
bluetooth, connected to my N800 (running maemo-mapper).  It all works
beautifully, but to reach that point I had to switch from (ogpsd +
fso-gpsd) to gpsd, because (at least in Debian) gpsdrive (which
converts the gpsd TCP protocol to Bluetooth GPS) is apparently not
compatible with the gpsd TCP protocol that fso-gpsd produces.

When using gpsd, FR applications that use the TCP protocol - like
tangogps - still work very nicely, but those that use the FSO D-Bus
API - like Cellhunter - do not.

So that left me thinking:

- given that gpsd already existed, and appears to Just Work on the FR,
I wonder why FSO decided to write ogpsd + fso-gpsd from scratch?

- for the future, perhaps a better overall solution would be
  - gpsd
  - something like the inverse of fso-gpsd, i.e. which translates from
the gpsd TCP protocol to the FSO D-Bus API
  - or alternatively, add the FSO D-Bus API to gpsd.

(This would need thought to allow automatic powering on and off of the
GPS device, but I think that's soluble.)

So it's interesting to hear that SHR and FSO2 might be moving in a
direction that sounds like this.

Regards,
Neil

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-04 Thread Neil Jerram
On 4 March 2010 09:40, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I was playing a week or so ago with my FR as a GPS receiver over
 bluetooth, connected to my N800 (running maemo-mapper).  It all works
 beautifully, but to reach that point I had to switch from (ogpsd +
 fso-gpsd) to gpsd, because (at least in Debian) gpsdrive (which
 converts the gpsd TCP protocol to Bluetooth GPS) is apparently not
 compatible with the gpsd TCP protocol that fso-gpsd produces.

s/gpsdrive/gpspipe/

Sorry for any confusion!

 Neil

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote:
 So that left me thinking:
 
 - given that gpsd already existed, and appears to Just Work on the FR,
 I wonder why FSO decided to write ogpsd + fso-gpsd from scratch?

FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not have a dbus 
interface. freedesktop.org already has a dbus protocol called gypsy, intended 
for devices such as ours. Adopting the gypsy protocol was an obvious choice at 
the time, but the world has moved on.

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-04 Thread Neil Jerram
On 4 March 2010 11:11, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
 On Thursday 04 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote:
 So that left me thinking:

 - given that gpsd already existed, and appears to Just Work on the FR,
 I wonder why FSO decided to write ogpsd + fso-gpsd from scratch?

 FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not have a dbus
 interface. freedesktop.org already has a dbus protocol called gypsy, intended
 for devices such as ours.

I assume you also considered adding the gypsy dbus API to gpsd?  It is
open source, after all.  It would be good to understand the reasons
for not doing that, in order to evaluate whether they still apply
today.

 Adopting the gypsy protocol was an obvious choice at
 the time, but the world has moved on.

What do you mean here?  Is gypsy now considered not to be a good API?

Thanks,
  Neil

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes:
 FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not
 have a dbus interface.

Are you sure? The debian changelog for gpsd package talks about dbus
already in 2005.

gpsd (2.26-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * New upstream release
- bugfix: gps.h refers to missing gpsutils.h (closes: #314998)
  * compile with dbus support
  * debian/patches/:
- rm 09_gpsdrive_fix.dpatch (obsolete)
- add 10_dbus_fix.dpatch
- add 11_hotplug_fix.dpatch
  * update lintian-overrides
  * debconf templates:
- update French translation, thanks to Jean-Luc Coulon (closes: #315364)
  * bump Standards-Version to 3.6.2 (no changes required)

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes:
 I assume you also considered adding the gypsy dbus API to gpsd?  It is

gpsd authors:

we are open to adding those signals to our D-Bus support.

-- http://gpsd.berlios.de/gypsy.html


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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote:
 On 4 March 2010 11:11, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
  On Thursday 04 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote:
  So that left me thinking:
 
  - given that gpsd already existed, and appears to Just Work on the FR,
  I wonder why FSO decided to write ogpsd + fso-gpsd from scratch?
 
  FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not have a
  dbus interface. freedesktop.org already has a dbus protocol called gypsy,
  intended for devices such as ours.
 
 I assume you also considered adding the gypsy dbus API to gpsd?  It is
 open source, after all.  It would be good to understand the reasons
 for not doing that, in order to evaluate whether they still apply
 today.

Check the smartphone-standards list archive. I was a spectator rather than a 
participant, and the arguments made at the time didn't seem unreasonable. They 
may have overlooked something though.

  Adopting the gypsy protocol was an obvious choice at
  the time, but the world has moved on.
 
 What do you mean here?  Is gypsy now considered not to be a good API?

I just meant that if we look at things as they are now we may not come to the 
same conclusion. We now have expericence of ogpsd and fso-gpsd, not just a 
proposal. I think gypsy is mostly good (grr...integer timestamp...) but it 
doesn't seem to have gained much traction. Almost all apps are using the gpsd 
interface, so Geoclue on top of gpsd might be a better option. gpsd has 
changed too.

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes:
  FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not
  have a dbus interface.
 
 Are you sure? The debian changelog for gpsd package talks about dbus
 already in 2005.
 
 gpsd (2.26-1) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * New upstream release
 - bugfix: gps.h refers to missing gpsutils.h (closes: #314998)
   * compile with dbus support
   * debian/patches/:
 - rm 09_gpsdrive_fix.dpatch (obsolete)
 - add 10_dbus_fix.dpatch
 - add 11_hotplug_fix.dpatch
   * update lintian-overrides
   * debconf templates:
 - update French translation, thanks to Jean-Luc Coulon (closes:
  #315364) * bump Standards-Version to 3.6.2 (no changes required)

It may just have been missed. Even now searching the gpsd site for dbus won't 
get you any interface documentation. 

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:gpsd.berlios.de+dbus

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2010-03-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes:
 It may just have been missed. Even now searching the gpsd site for dbus won't 
 get you any interface documentation. 

Yep they ask you to read the source :-)

paraOn operating systems that support D-BUS,
applicationgpsd/application can be built to broadcast GPS fixes to
D-BUS-aware applications.  As D-BUS is still at a pre-1.0 stage, we
will not attempt to document this interface here.  Read the
applicationgpsd/application source code to learn more./para





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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes:
  It may just have been missed. Even now searching the gpsd site for dbus
  won't get you any interface documentation.
 
 Yep they ask you to read the source :-)
 
 paraOn operating systems that support D-BUS,
 applicationgpsd/application can be built to broadcast GPS fixes to
 D-BUS-aware applications.  As D-BUS is still at a pre-1.0 stage, we
 will not attempt to document this interface here.  Read the
 applicationgpsd/application source code to learn more./para

To me that says the interface still isn't stable enough to document. Compare 
and contrast with the extensive documentation for the JSON format a few 
paragraphs earlier. I may just have picked up the wrong emssage though - it 
wouldn't be the first time ;-)

Besides, my opinion of what it says now has nothing to do with why whoever 
decided to take the ogpsd route did so back then. If you really want to know 
then check the smartphone-standards archives.

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-03 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:47:55AM -0800, Mike Crash wrote:
 
 After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of MC
 Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I found some
 bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't want to stop the
 release, because it is never-ending story).
 
 So if somebody wants to try, all information is on [1]. I have moved it to
 other site, because here is also Debian repository. Download source code and
 packages for Debian armel/i386/AMD64. 
 
 [1] http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

Hi,

Is there some SCM repo for MC Navi?

Or some already existing patch for compatibility with gpsd-2.90?

Error log:
http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/504843/

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-03 Thread Neil Jerram
On 3 March 2010 16:08, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Or some already existing patch for compatibility with gpsd-2.90?

That's an interesting question.  Are you considering gpsd for SHR,
instead of ogpsd + fso-gpsd?

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-03-03 Thread Martin Jansa
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:32:51PM +, Neil Jerram wrote:
 On 3 March 2010 16:08, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Or some already existing patch for compatibility with gpsd-2.90?
 
 That's an interesting question.  Are you considering gpsd for SHR,
 instead of ogpsd + fso-gpsd?

AFAIK gpsd was always built in SHR at least as gpsd.h provider etc. And it was
updated to 2.90 about a week ago. On device there is fso-gpsd and then libgps
now version libgps19 (2.90-r4.0.4).

I'm not really planing any gps switch, but the plan is to remove frameworkd
and python from SHR images ASAP.

1) fsogsmd should work already
2) opimd is redesigned still in python, then it will need vala? rewrite :/
3) fso-gsm depends on frameworkd (ogpsd) now and needs to be replaced/improved
   somehow, that's why I asked mickey
4) I'm building experimental images[1] with 2.6.32 kernel, fsogpsd, xserver-1.8 
and 
   without udev, hal, python, frameworkd for myself (they are not usable out of
   the box, but I want to test and prepare SHR for next step :))

12:36.41JaMamickey|office: yes there any plan to make fso_gpsd 
independent on frameworkd? now it's in RDEPENDS
13:50.33mickey|office   JaMa: fso-gpsd has not been written by us, the 
author is somewhat missing in action; i do not have any plans for it. fso-gpsd 
translates gypsy into gpsd protocol. fsotdld will not use gypsy protocol, so 
fso-gpsd won't work anyways w/ fso2
13:55.29JaMamickey|office: so fsotdld will provide NMEA? and if we 
need gpsd protocol provided by fso-gpsd (ie for using gpsd from FR on other 
device over wifi connection) then someone need to implement NMEA-GPSD right?
13:56.05mickey|office   JaMa: I'm afraid fsotdld will not provide NMEA, 
that would not make sense, fsotdld is about giving a high level location 
protocol
13:56.14mickey|office   we will have to have something like 
fsotdld-gpsd, yes
13:56.28pabs3   how does fsotdld relate to geoclue?
13:56.29mickey|office   fsotdld will basically incorporate all location 
providers
13:56.53mickey|office   pabs3: it looks like there will be an overlap
13:57.20JaMamickey|office: ah so UBX NEMA is name of protocol we 
get from our chip?
13:57.34mickey|office   JaMa: UBX5 or NMEA, yes
13:57.38mickey|office   or UBX4
13:57.41mickey|office   dunno offhand
13:58.07JaMamickey|office: ok thanks
13:58.30mickey|office   sascha wessel (author of fso-gpsd) once put up 
a nice RFC of a location provider protocol
13:58.36mickey|office   i'm leaning towards using that
13:58.43mickey|office   or make it compatible with geoclue
13:59.01mickey|office   but last time we made a protocol compatible 
with something, that something was more or less abandonded ;)
14:00.09mickey|office   the choice to support gypsy made sense at the 
time
14:00.14mickey|office   but the outcome was a horrible protocol
14:00.21mickey|office   very undbuslike
14:00.30mickey|office   this time i want to make it better
14:00.52lindi-  mickey|office: gpsd protocol changed btw
14:01.10lindi-  mickey|office: support for old protocol will be dropped 
this year
14:01.28lindi-  meanwhile it will support both (and autodetect)
14:02.11lindi-  the one-letter commands are finally gone for good :)
14:03.09mickey|office   awesome :)
14:03.20mickey|office   ya, we definitely want a gspd protocol plugin 
for tdld
14:03.34JaMaI'm just reading what mqy (author of omgps said), 
because he had parsers for all 3 protocols, so maybe it would be easy to 
convert with help of his code 
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-June/050403.html

[1]: 
http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commits/shr/unstable 
 - don't use this if you don't know what are you doing :) and if you do, 
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-25 Thread Petr Vanek
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:47:55 -0800 (PST)
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com (MC) wrote:

After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of
MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I
found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't
want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story).

Sounds cools, thank you!
But Mike, kde je ceska mapa? :))

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-25 Thread Petr Vanek
After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of
MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I
found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't
want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story).

Sounds cools, thank you!
But Mike, kde je ceska mapa? :))

found it:

http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-25 Thread Mike Crash

Zkus to zde:

http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3

I have improved convertor and fixed a lot of bugs, so soon will be new
version and also more maps for download.


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found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-22 Thread Davide Scaini
I uploaded it to:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mcnavimaps/files/

I think it's good...
If someone is interested to share his nation's maps we can arrange to commit
there...
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-22 Thread Vaudano Luca
Yes I have belgium map :) if you want...

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:
 I uploaded it to:
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/mcnavimaps/files/
 I think it's good...
 If someone is interested to share his nation's maps we can arrange to commit
 there...
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-22 Thread Davide Scaini
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Vaudano Luca vaud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I have belgium map :) if you want...


Nice!
do you want access to sourceforge? You can contant me directly on my e-mail
to fix the details.
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-17 Thread Davide Scaini
I built the map for Italy, if someone interested i'll find a way to share
(if mike is interested I'll upload to his website)
d

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 Wow, took hours but I was finally able to generate first the border
 file and then the map of Finland.

 The GUI was a nice surprise, wow, very nice (all icons are not very
 intuitive, though).

 When trying to route, I wasn't able to find all cities - for example
 the capital, Helsinki, wasn't available.
 Continuing to type it's name, mcnavi crashed:

 *** glibc detected *** mcnavi: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0022a528
 ***
 Aborted


 Keep us updated on new version, this looks good!


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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-17 Thread Vaudano Luca
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:
 I built the map for Italy, if someone interested i'll find a way to share
 (if mike is interested I'll upload to his website)
 d

Yes, I'm interested in it. Thanks!
Did you install MC Navi on the SHR using
http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk?
Does it work?
ciao
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-17 Thread Davide Scaini
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Vaudano Luca vaud...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:
  I built the map for Italy, if someone interested i'll find a way to share
  (if mike is interested I'll upload to his website)
  d
 
 Yes, I'm interested in it. Thanks!
 Did you install MC Navi on the SHR using
 http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk?
 Does it work?
 ciao
 Luca


Yes i tried that one... but i cannot zoom-unzoom nor set destination point
in settings (i guess exists a panel like settings... ).
It tooks me some hours to convert this map...
I don't know where to place it, give me some hint please :P
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-17 Thread Vaudano Luca
 Yes i tried that one... but i cannot zoom-unzoom nor set destination point
 in settings (i guess exists a panel like settings... ).
 It tooks me some hours to convert this map...
 I don't know where to place it, give me some hint please :P
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Wow, took hours but I was finally able to generate first the border
file and then the map of Finland.

The GUI was a nice surprise, wow, very nice (all icons are not very
intuitive, though).

When trying to route, I wasn't able to find all cities - for example
the capital, Helsinki, wasn't available.
Continuing to type it's name, mcnavi crashed:

*** glibc detected *** mcnavi: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0022a528 ***
Aborted


Keep us updated on new version, this looks good!


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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-14 Thread Mike Crash


Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 
 On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net
 wrote:
 Hi All,

 I made a quick untested binary package for SHR-T, and I gotta run now so
 I can't test
 myself, but maybe it's of use to someone.

 see http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
 
 Installed OK, now I'm trying to use it (well, actually I installed the
 64-bit deb on my desktop to run the map making faster..)
 
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1
 
 Do I get correctly that I first download
 http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G)
 to be able to run
 osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm
 to create the boundary data.
 
 Then I download
 http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/finland.osm.bz2 (67M)
 to create the map:
 osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm map.osm
 
 Let's see if my 2G of mem +2G of swap is enough :)
 
 4.5 hours to go to download europe.osm.bz2..
 
 r
 
 

That's right, exchange map.osm with the actually map file name
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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-14 Thread undrwater


Sander van Grieken wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I made a quick untested binary package for SHR-T, and I gotta run now so I
 can't test 
 myself, but maybe it's of use to someone.
 
 see http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
 
 

I get: 
opkg install mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
opkg: mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk: invalid magic
Collected errors:
 * Failed to extract control file from mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk



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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-14 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:
 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

 Do I get correctly that I first download
 http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G)
 to be able to run
 osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm
 to create the boundary data.

No can do.

Extracting the europe.osm.bz2 resulted about 40G file.
Running the osm2mcmap took all of my 2G of RAM + 2G of swap and died,
out of memory.

Any other ideas? More powerful machine or maybe a bit of optimization
in the code?
Someone willing to run this for all European users?

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-14 Thread Richy
I'll give it a shot. (8GB Ram + 10GB Swap)

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:46, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:
  Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
  http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1
 
  Do I get correctly that I first download
  http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G)
  to be able to run
  osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm
  to create the boundary data.

 No can do.

 Extracting the europe.osm.bz2 resulted about 40G file.
 Running the osm2mcmap took all of my 2G of RAM + 2G of swap and died,
 out of memory.

 Any other ideas? More powerful machine or maybe a bit of optimization
 in the code?
 Someone willing to run this for all European users?

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-14 Thread Richy
Do i get this right, that extracting boundary data is not needed for the
european map, as boundaries are just missing for country extracts?

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:52, Richy klemms...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll give it a shot. (8GB Ram + 10GB Swap)


 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:46, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:
  Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
  http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1
 
  Do I get correctly that I first download
  http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G)
  to be able to run
  osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm
  to create the boundary data.

 No can do.

 Extracting the europe.osm.bz2 resulted about 40G file.
 Running the osm2mcmap took all of my 2G of RAM + 2G of swap and died,
 out of memory.

 Any other ideas? More powerful machine or maybe a bit of optimization
 in the code?
 Someone willing to run this for all European users?

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-14 Thread Mike Crash

You should download only boundaries extracts from Cloudmate, not the whole
Europe

http://downloads.cloudmade.com/europe/europe.osm.administrative.bz2


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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-13 Thread Sander van Grieken
Hi All,

I made a quick untested binary package for SHR-T, and I gotta run now so I 
can't test 
myself, but maybe it's of use to someone.

see http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk

grtz,
Sander

On Friday 12 February 2010 22:37:16 Mike Crash wrote:
  Omlouváme se, ale tato sekce je p#ístupná pouze pro administrátory
 
 There is a flag to switch to english language on gps-routes.info
 
  Failed to fetch
  http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc
  Hash Sum mismatch
  Failed to fetch
  http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz
  Hash Sum mismatch
 
 I have uploaded dists directory to wrong directory on ftp server (to dists
 itself), so it doesn't match, I have fixed it and it should work now
 
  Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR?
 
 For SHR I have no binaries, it needs to recompile with different libraries.
 I work on Debian so I provide only Debian packages.
 
  I can't install it on qtmoko:
 You need E17 EFL's, it will not work on qtmoko
 
  Do you use the same bin format as navit?
 
 No, I'm using different, because it works entirely different than navit. It
 was my first attempt to speed up navit, but I have gave up - hard to change
 other's code

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-13 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net wrote:
 Hi All,

 I made a quick untested binary package for SHR-T, and I gotta run now so I 
 can't test
 myself, but maybe it's of use to someone.

 see http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk

Installed OK, now I'm trying to use it (well, actually I installed the
64-bit deb on my desktop to run the map making faster..)

http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

Do I get correctly that I first download
http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G)
to be able to run
osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm
to create the boundary data.

Then I download
http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/finland.osm.bz2 (67M)
to create the map:
osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm map.osm

Let's see if my 2G of mem +2G of swap is enough :)

4.5 hours to go to download europe.osm.bz2..

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com writes:
 Yes, I used reprepro too, but the result uploaded to FTP. May be I was missed
 something when uploading. is there a way to sync local directory to FTP?
 Also it would be nice to sign the repository.

I'm using rsync but I imagine ftp should work too. You don't have
directory listing allowed on the server which makes it bit harder to
debug remotely :-)

Maybe you forgot to upload the Sources.gz file? It has a checksum

$ wget -q -O - 
http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/dists/sid/main/source/Sources.gz | zcat | 
grep mcnav
Package: mcnavi
Binary: mcnavi, mcnavi-osm2mcmap
Directory: pool/main/m/mcnavi
 222f7599dc035aba4078acc0241eb0c9 559 mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc
 dfc9537fbb82c30a3829e7a71119e28d 816501 mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz
 4f12fc01d4c4f399fa04f3d74ac42923df14bb9e 559 mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc
 5c57a4e871babeceb4c4de3ba5bc05f26d9b1d8d 816501 mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz
 4794b8ab1bb8161acd61f4a3ee9a1ab9f8b7c99e14cc0a7fdffa13ed238196ca 559 
mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc
 0a036d821834170be774144cffa8571b6f5c911b4a7d752e4cf84ec41a8c233b 816501 
mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz

that does not match the dsc file anymore:

$ md5sum mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc.FAILED 
d39fd673d65e80e33f8108b6fc7e7c52  mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc.FAILED




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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-12 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Friday 12 February 2010 07:19:24 Mike Crash wrote:

 I'm preparing for some countries downloads.

Do you use the same bin format as navit?

If so, there are preprocesed countries in this URL:

http://downloads.cloudmade.com/

Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR?

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Jerram
On 12 February 2010 07:50, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:

 Yes, I used reprepro too, but the result uploaded to FTP. May be I was missed
 something when uploading. is there a way to sync local directory to FTP?

lftp can do that.  It has a mirror command.

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-12 Thread Neil Jerram
On 12 February 2010 09:22, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote:

 Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR?

I haven't done it myself, but I've often heard people say that opkg
can install a .deb

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-12 Thread Margo
On 11 February 2010 20:47, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:

 After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of MC
 Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I found some
 bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't want to stop the
 release, because it is never-ending story).

 So if somebody wants to try, all information is on [1]. I have moved it to
 other site, because here is also Debian repository. Download source code and
 packages for Debian armel/i386/AMD64.

 [1] http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1


I can't install it on qtmoko:

neo:~# apt-get install mcnavi
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  mcnavi: Depends: libecore-evas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable
  Depends: libecore-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable
  Depends: libedje-svn-05 (= 0.9.92.063) but it is not installable
  Depends: libevas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable
  Depends: libgcc1 (= 1:4.4.0) but 1:4.3.2-1.1 is to be installed
  Depends: libgps18 (= 2.39) but it is not installable
E: Broken packages

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Margo keegiv...@gmail.com writes:
 I can't install it on qtmoko:

Mixing binary packages between distributions is generally a bad
idea. In this case they probably use different package names and
version numbers.

Does qtmoko have E17? What are the names of the packages?

   mcnavi: Depends: libecore-evas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not 
 installable
   Depends: libecore-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable
   Depends: libedje-svn-05 (= 0.9.92.063) but it is not installable
   Depends: libevas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable
   Depends: libgcc1 (= 1:4.4.0) but 1:4.3.2-1.1 is to be installed
   Depends: libgps18 (= 2.39) but it is not installable


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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-12 Thread Margo
On 12 February 2010 13:55, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Margo keegiv...@gmail.com writes:
 I can't install it on qtmoko:

 Mixing binary packages between distributions is generally a bad
 idea. In this case they probably use different package names and
 version numbers.

 Does qtmoko have E17? What are the names of the packages?


There's a package named e16 in the repository. But no packages named
libecore, libedje, libevas or libgps18 (but there is libgps17).
libgcc1 is version 1:4.3.2-1.1

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Margo keegiv...@gmail.com writes:
 There's a package named e16 in the repository. But no packages named

My understanding is that you need E17 but I can be wrong.

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-12 Thread Mike Crash

 Omlouváme se, ale tato sekce je p#ístupná pouze pro administrátory 

There is a flag to switch to english language on gps-routes.info

 Failed to fetch
 http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc 
 Hash Sum mismatch
 Failed to fetch
 http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz 
 Hash Sum mismatch 

I have uploaded dists directory to wrong directory on ftp server (to dists
itself), so it doesn't match, I have fixed it and it should work now

 Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR? 

For SHR I have no binaries, it needs to recompile with different libraries.
I work on Debian so I provide only Debian packages. 

 I can't install it on qtmoko: 

You need E17 EFL's, it will not work on qtmoko

 Do you use the same bin format as navit? 

No, I'm using different, because it works entirely different than navit. It
was my first attempt to speed up navit, but I have gave up - hard to change
other's code

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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com writes:
 other site, because here is also Debian repository. Download source code and
 packages for Debian armel/i386/AMD64. 

$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc

in debian unstable fails with

checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for MCNAVI... configure: error: Package requirements (ecore ecore-evas 
edje imlib2 libgps) were not met:

No package 'imlib2' found

Maybe libimlib2-dev should be added as a build-dependency? I tried
installing it but it does not seem to be currently installable:

$ sudo aptitude install libimlib2-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information... Done
Initializing package states... Done   
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libgif-dev{a} libimlib2-dev libjpeg8-dev{ab} libpng12-dev{a} libtiff4-dev{a} 
libtiffxx0c2{a} 
0 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1303kB of archives. After unpacking 3645kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libjpeg8-dev: Conflicts: libjpeg62-dev but 6b-16 is installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

 Keep the following packages at their current version:
1) libimlib2-dev [Not Installed]  
2) libjpeg8-dev [Not Installed]   
3) libtiff4-dev [Not Installed]   

 Tier: Safe actions, Remove packages (1)  

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

Did you also use debian unstable to build the packages or something
else?


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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com writes:
 For repository - this is my first repository, so it may not be right - I

What software are you using to set it up? I found reprepro really easy to use.


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Re: MC Navi released

2010-02-11 Thread Mike Crash

Yes, I used reprepro too, but the result uploaded to FTP. May be I was missed
something when uploading. is there a way to sync local directory to FTP?
Also it would be nice to sign the repository.
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