Re: MC Navi released
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On 3 March 2010 17:08, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:32:51PM +, Neil Jerram wrote: On 3 March 2010 16:08, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Or some already existing patch for compatibility with gpsd-2.90? That's an interesting question. Are you considering gpsd for SHR, instead of ogpsd + fso-gpsd? AFAIK gpsd was always built in SHR at least as gpsd.h provider etc. And it was updated to 2.90 about a week ago. On device there is fso-gpsd and then libgps now version libgps19 (2.90-r4.0.4). Ah, OK. To explain my interest a bit, which I hope will eventually explain my question... I was playing a week or so ago with my FR as a GPS receiver over bluetooth, connected to my N800 (running maemo-mapper). It all works beautifully, but to reach that point I had to switch from (ogpsd + fso-gpsd) to gpsd, because (at least in Debian) gpsdrive (which converts the gpsd TCP protocol to Bluetooth GPS) is apparently not compatible with the gpsd TCP protocol that fso-gpsd produces. When using gpsd, FR applications that use the TCP protocol - like tangogps - still work very nicely, but those that use the FSO D-Bus API - like Cellhunter - do not. So that left me thinking: - given that gpsd already existed, and appears to Just Work on the FR, I wonder why FSO decided to write ogpsd + fso-gpsd from scratch? - for the future, perhaps a better overall solution would be - gpsd - something like the inverse of fso-gpsd, i.e. which translates from the gpsd TCP protocol to the FSO D-Bus API - or alternatively, add the FSO D-Bus API to gpsd. (This would need thought to allow automatic powering on and off of the GPS device, but I think that's soluble.) So it's interesting to hear that SHR and FSO2 might be moving in a direction that sounds like this. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 4 March 2010 09:40, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: I was playing a week or so ago with my FR as a GPS receiver over bluetooth, connected to my N800 (running maemo-mapper). It all works beautifully, but to reach that point I had to switch from (ogpsd + fso-gpsd) to gpsd, because (at least in Debian) gpsdrive (which converts the gpsd TCP protocol to Bluetooth GPS) is apparently not compatible with the gpsd TCP protocol that fso-gpsd produces. s/gpsdrive/gpspipe/ Sorry for any confusion! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote: So that left me thinking: - given that gpsd already existed, and appears to Just Work on the FR, I wonder why FSO decided to write ogpsd + fso-gpsd from scratch? FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not have a dbus interface. freedesktop.org already has a dbus protocol called gypsy, intended for devices such as ours. Adopting the gypsy protocol was an obvious choice at the time, but the world has moved on. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On 4 March 2010 11:11, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Thursday 04 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote: So that left me thinking: - given that gpsd already existed, and appears to Just Work on the FR, I wonder why FSO decided to write ogpsd + fso-gpsd from scratch? FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not have a dbus interface. freedesktop.org already has a dbus protocol called gypsy, intended for devices such as ours. I assume you also considered adding the gypsy dbus API to gpsd? It is open source, after all. It would be good to understand the reasons for not doing that, in order to evaluate whether they still apply today. Adopting the gypsy protocol was an obvious choice at the time, but the world has moved on. What do you mean here? Is gypsy now considered not to be a good API? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not have a dbus interface. Are you sure? The debian changelog for gpsd package talks about dbus already in 2005. gpsd (2.26-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream release - bugfix: gps.h refers to missing gpsutils.h (closes: #314998) * compile with dbus support * debian/patches/: - rm 09_gpsdrive_fix.dpatch (obsolete) - add 10_dbus_fix.dpatch - add 11_hotplug_fix.dpatch * update lintian-overrides * debconf templates: - update French translation, thanks to Jean-Luc Coulon (closes: #315364) * bump Standards-Version to 3.6.2 (no changes required) -- Tilman Koschnick t...@subnetz.org Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:20:40 +0200 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes: I assume you also considered adding the gypsy dbus API to gpsd? It is gpsd authors: we are open to adding those signals to our D-Bus support. -- http://gpsd.berlios.de/gypsy.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote: On 4 March 2010 11:11, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Thursday 04 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote: So that left me thinking: - given that gpsd already existed, and appears to Just Work on the FR, I wonder why FSO decided to write ogpsd + fso-gpsd from scratch? FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not have a dbus interface. freedesktop.org already has a dbus protocol called gypsy, intended for devices such as ours. I assume you also considered adding the gypsy dbus API to gpsd? It is open source, after all. It would be good to understand the reasons for not doing that, in order to evaluate whether they still apply today. Check the smartphone-standards list archive. I was a spectator rather than a participant, and the arguments made at the time didn't seem unreasonable. They may have overlooked something though. Adopting the gypsy protocol was an obvious choice at the time, but the world has moved on. What do you mean here? Is gypsy now considered not to be a good API? I just meant that if we look at things as they are now we may not come to the same conclusion. We now have expericence of ogpsd and fso-gpsd, not just a proposal. I think gypsy is mostly good (grr...integer timestamp...) but it doesn't seem to have gained much traction. Almost all apps are using the gpsd interface, so Geoclue on top of gpsd might be a better option. gpsd has changed too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Thursday 04 March 2010, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: FSO is a collection of dbus protocols. gpsd at that time did not have a dbus interface. Are you sure? The debian changelog for gpsd package talks about dbus already in 2005. gpsd (2.26-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream release - bugfix: gps.h refers to missing gpsutils.h (closes: #314998) * compile with dbus support * debian/patches/: - rm 09_gpsdrive_fix.dpatch (obsolete) - add 10_dbus_fix.dpatch - add 11_hotplug_fix.dpatch * update lintian-overrides * debconf templates: - update French translation, thanks to Jean-Luc Coulon (closes: #315364) * bump Standards-Version to 3.6.2 (no changes required) It may just have been missed. Even now searching the gpsd site for dbus won't get you any interface documentation. http://www.google.com/search?q=site:gpsd.berlios.de+dbus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: It may just have been missed. Even now searching the gpsd site for dbus won't get you any interface documentation. Yep they ask you to read the source :-) paraOn operating systems that support D-BUS, applicationgpsd/application can be built to broadcast GPS fixes to D-BUS-aware applications. As D-BUS is still at a pre-1.0 stage, we will not attempt to document this interface here. Read the applicationgpsd/application source code to learn more./para ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: It may just have been missed. Even now searching the gpsd site for dbus won't get you any interface documentation. Yep they ask you to read the source :-) paraOn operating systems that support D-BUS, applicationgpsd/application can be built to broadcast GPS fixes to D-BUS-aware applications. As D-BUS is still at a pre-1.0 stage, we will not attempt to document this interface here. Read the applicationgpsd/application source code to learn more./para To me that says the interface still isn't stable enough to document. Compare and contrast with the extensive documentation for the JSON format a few paragraphs earlier. I may just have picked up the wrong emssage though - it wouldn't be the first time ;-) Besides, my opinion of what it says now has nothing to do with why whoever decided to take the ogpsd route did so back then. If you really want to know then check the smartphone-standards archives. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:47:55AM -0800, Mike Crash wrote: After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story). So if somebody wants to try, all information is on [1]. I have moved it to other site, because here is also Debian repository. Download source code and packages for Debian armel/i386/AMD64. [1] http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 Hi, Is there some SCM repo for MC Navi? Or some already existing patch for compatibility with gpsd-2.90? Error log: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/504843/ Díky :) -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On 3 March 2010 16:08, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Or some already existing patch for compatibility with gpsd-2.90? That's an interesting question. Are you considering gpsd for SHR, instead of ogpsd + fso-gpsd? Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:32:51PM +, Neil Jerram wrote: On 3 March 2010 16:08, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Or some already existing patch for compatibility with gpsd-2.90? That's an interesting question. Are you considering gpsd for SHR, instead of ogpsd + fso-gpsd? AFAIK gpsd was always built in SHR at least as gpsd.h provider etc. And it was updated to 2.90 about a week ago. On device there is fso-gpsd and then libgps now version libgps19 (2.90-r4.0.4). I'm not really planing any gps switch, but the plan is to remove frameworkd and python from SHR images ASAP. 1) fsogsmd should work already 2) opimd is redesigned still in python, then it will need vala? rewrite :/ 3) fso-gsm depends on frameworkd (ogpsd) now and needs to be replaced/improved somehow, that's why I asked mickey 4) I'm building experimental images[1] with 2.6.32 kernel, fsogpsd, xserver-1.8 and without udev, hal, python, frameworkd for myself (they are not usable out of the box, but I want to test and prepare SHR for next step :)) 12:36.41JaMamickey|office: yes there any plan to make fso_gpsd independent on frameworkd? now it's in RDEPENDS 13:50.33mickey|office JaMa: fso-gpsd has not been written by us, the author is somewhat missing in action; i do not have any plans for it. fso-gpsd translates gypsy into gpsd protocol. fsotdld will not use gypsy protocol, so fso-gpsd won't work anyways w/ fso2 13:55.29JaMamickey|office: so fsotdld will provide NMEA? and if we need gpsd protocol provided by fso-gpsd (ie for using gpsd from FR on other device over wifi connection) then someone need to implement NMEA-GPSD right? 13:56.05mickey|office JaMa: I'm afraid fsotdld will not provide NMEA, that would not make sense, fsotdld is about giving a high level location protocol 13:56.14mickey|office we will have to have something like fsotdld-gpsd, yes 13:56.28pabs3 how does fsotdld relate to geoclue? 13:56.29mickey|office fsotdld will basically incorporate all location providers 13:56.53mickey|office pabs3: it looks like there will be an overlap 13:57.20JaMamickey|office: ah so UBX NEMA is name of protocol we get from our chip? 13:57.34mickey|office JaMa: UBX5 or NMEA, yes 13:57.38mickey|office or UBX4 13:57.41mickey|office dunno offhand 13:58.07JaMamickey|office: ok thanks 13:58.30mickey|office sascha wessel (author of fso-gpsd) once put up a nice RFC of a location provider protocol 13:58.36mickey|office i'm leaning towards using that 13:58.43mickey|office or make it compatible with geoclue 13:59.01mickey|office but last time we made a protocol compatible with something, that something was more or less abandonded ;) 14:00.09mickey|office the choice to support gypsy made sense at the time 14:00.14mickey|office but the outcome was a horrible protocol 14:00.21mickey|office very undbuslike 14:00.30mickey|office this time i want to make it better 14:00.52lindi- mickey|office: gpsd protocol changed btw 14:01.10lindi- mickey|office: support for old protocol will be dropped this year 14:01.28lindi- meanwhile it will support both (and autodetect) 14:02.11lindi- the one-letter commands are finally gone for good :) 14:03.09mickey|office awesome :) 14:03.20mickey|office ya, we definitely want a gspd protocol plugin for tdld 14:03.34JaMaI'm just reading what mqy (author of omgps said), because he had parsers for all 3 protocols, so maybe it would be easy to convert with help of his code http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-June/050403.html [1]: http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commits/shr/unstable - don't use this if you don't know what are you doing :) and if you do, expect rebase almost every day -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:47:55 -0800 (PST) Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com (MC) wrote: After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story). Sounds cools, thank you! But Mike, kde je ceska mapa? :)) Cheers -- Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story). Sounds cools, thank you! But Mike, kde je ceska mapa? :)) found it: http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3 Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Zkus to zde: http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3 I have improved convertor and fixed a lot of bugs, so soon will be new version and also more maps for download. On 25.2.2010 9:52, Petr Vanek [via Openmoko Public Mailinglists] wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:47:55 -0800 (PST) Mike Crash [hidden email] http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4631280i=0 (MC) wrote: After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story). Sounds cools, thank you! But Mike, kde je ceska mapa? :)) Cheers -- Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list [hidden email] http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4631280i=1 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community View message @ http://n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-released-tp4556580p4631280.html To unsubscribe from MC Navi released, click here (link removed) ==. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-released-tp4556580p4631368.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I uploaded it to: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mcnavimaps/files/ I think it's good... If someone is interested to share his nation's maps we can arrange to commit there... d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Yes I have belgium map :) if you want... On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: I uploaded it to: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mcnavimaps/files/ I think it's good... If someone is interested to share his nation's maps we can arrange to commit there... d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Vaudano Luca vaud...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I have belgium map :) if you want... Nice! do you want access to sourceforge? You can contant me directly on my e-mail to fix the details. d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I built the map for Italy, if someone interested i'll find a way to share (if mike is interested I'll upload to his website) d On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Wow, took hours but I was finally able to generate first the border file and then the map of Finland. The GUI was a nice surprise, wow, very nice (all icons are not very intuitive, though). When trying to route, I wasn't able to find all cities - for example the capital, Helsinki, wasn't available. Continuing to type it's name, mcnavi crashed: *** glibc detected *** mcnavi: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0022a528 *** Aborted Keep us updated on new version, this looks good! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: I built the map for Italy, if someone interested i'll find a way to share (if mike is interested I'll upload to his website) d Yes, I'm interested in it. Thanks! Did you install MC Navi on the SHR using http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk? Does it work? ciao Luca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Vaudano Luca vaud...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: I built the map for Italy, if someone interested i'll find a way to share (if mike is interested I'll upload to his website) d Yes, I'm interested in it. Thanks! Did you install MC Navi on the SHR using http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk? Does it work? ciao Luca Yes i tried that one... but i cannot zoom-unzoom nor set destination point in settings (i guess exists a panel like settings... ). It tooks me some hours to convert this map... I don't know where to place it, give me some hint please :P d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Yes i tried that one... but i cannot zoom-unzoom nor set destination point in settings (i guess exists a panel like settings... ). It tooks me some hours to convert this map... I don't know where to place it, give me some hint please :P d How big is it? Megaupload, Rapidshare, Sendspace, ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Wow, took hours but I was finally able to generate first the border file and then the map of Finland. The GUI was a nice surprise, wow, very nice (all icons are not very intuitive, though). When trying to route, I wasn't able to find all cities - for example the capital, Helsinki, wasn't available. Continuing to type it's name, mcnavi crashed: *** glibc detected *** mcnavi: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0022a528 *** Aborted Keep us updated on new version, this looks good! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net wrote: Hi All, I made a quick untested binary package for SHR-T, and I gotta run now so I can't test myself, but maybe it's of use to someone. see http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Installed OK, now I'm trying to use it (well, actually I installed the 64-bit deb on my desktop to run the map making faster..) http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 Do I get correctly that I first download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G) to be able to run osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm to create the boundary data. Then I download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/finland.osm.bz2 (67M) to create the map: osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm map.osm Let's see if my 2G of mem +2G of swap is enough :) 4.5 hours to go to download europe.osm.bz2.. r That's right, exchange map.osm with the actually map file name -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-released-tp4556580p4571148.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Sander van Grieken wrote: Hi All, I made a quick untested binary package for SHR-T, and I gotta run now so I can't test myself, but maybe it's of use to someone. see http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk I get: opkg install mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk opkg: mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk: invalid magic Collected errors: * Failed to extract control file from mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-released-tp4556580p4573066.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 Do I get correctly that I first download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G) to be able to run osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm to create the boundary data. No can do. Extracting the europe.osm.bz2 resulted about 40G file. Running the osm2mcmap took all of my 2G of RAM + 2G of swap and died, out of memory. Any other ideas? More powerful machine or maybe a bit of optimization in the code? Someone willing to run this for all European users? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I'll give it a shot. (8GB Ram + 10GB Swap) On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:46, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 Do I get correctly that I first download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G) to be able to run osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm to create the boundary data. No can do. Extracting the europe.osm.bz2 resulted about 40G file. Running the osm2mcmap took all of my 2G of RAM + 2G of swap and died, out of memory. Any other ideas? More powerful machine or maybe a bit of optimization in the code? Someone willing to run this for all European users? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community 668c16bc69 668c16bc69 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
Do i get this right, that extracting boundary data is not needed for the european map, as boundaries are just missing for country extracts? On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:52, Richy klemms...@gmail.com wrote: I'll give it a shot. (8GB Ram + 10GB Swap) On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:46, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 Do I get correctly that I first download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G) to be able to run osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm to create the boundary data. No can do. Extracting the europe.osm.bz2 resulted about 40G file. Running the osm2mcmap took all of my 2G of RAM + 2G of swap and died, out of memory. Any other ideas? More powerful machine or maybe a bit of optimization in the code? Someone willing to run this for all European users? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community 668c16bc69 668c16bc69 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
You should download only boundaries extracts from Cloudmate, not the whole Europe http://downloads.cloudmade.com/europe/europe.osm.administrative.bz2 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-released-tp4556580p4573240.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi All, I made a quick untested binary package for SHR-T, and I gotta run now so I can't test myself, but maybe it's of use to someone. see http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk grtz, Sander On Friday 12 February 2010 22:37:16 Mike Crash wrote: Omlouváme se, ale tato sekce je p#ístupná pouze pro administrátory There is a flag to switch to english language on gps-routes.info Failed to fetch http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc Hash Sum mismatch Failed to fetch http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz Hash Sum mismatch I have uploaded dists directory to wrong directory on ftp server (to dists itself), so it doesn't match, I have fixed it and it should work now Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR? For SHR I have no binaries, it needs to recompile with different libraries. I work on Debian so I provide only Debian packages. I can't install it on qtmoko: You need E17 EFL's, it will not work on qtmoko Do you use the same bin format as navit? No, I'm using different, because it works entirely different than navit. It was my first attempt to speed up navit, but I have gave up - hard to change other's code ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net wrote: Hi All, I made a quick untested binary package for SHR-T, and I gotta run now so I can't test myself, but maybe it's of use to someone. see http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/mcnavi_0.2.4-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Installed OK, now I'm trying to use it (well, actually I installed the 64-bit deb on my desktop to run the map making faster..) http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 Do I get correctly that I first download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe.osm.bz2 (2.9G) to be able to run osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb map.osm to create the boundary data. Then I download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/finland.osm.bz2 (67M) to create the map: osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm map.osm Let's see if my 2G of mem +2G of swap is enough :) 4.5 hours to go to download europe.osm.bz2.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com writes: Yes, I used reprepro too, but the result uploaded to FTP. May be I was missed something when uploading. is there a way to sync local directory to FTP? Also it would be nice to sign the repository. I'm using rsync but I imagine ftp should work too. You don't have directory listing allowed on the server which makes it bit harder to debug remotely :-) Maybe you forgot to upload the Sources.gz file? It has a checksum $ wget -q -O - http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/dists/sid/main/source/Sources.gz | zcat | grep mcnav Package: mcnavi Binary: mcnavi, mcnavi-osm2mcmap Directory: pool/main/m/mcnavi 222f7599dc035aba4078acc0241eb0c9 559 mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc dfc9537fbb82c30a3829e7a71119e28d 816501 mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz 4f12fc01d4c4f399fa04f3d74ac42923df14bb9e 559 mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc 5c57a4e871babeceb4c4de3ba5bc05f26d9b1d8d 816501 mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz 4794b8ab1bb8161acd61f4a3ee9a1ab9f8b7c99e14cc0a7fdffa13ed238196ca 559 mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc 0a036d821834170be774144cffa8571b6f5c911b4a7d752e4cf84ec41a8c233b 816501 mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz that does not match the dsc file anymore: $ md5sum mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc.FAILED d39fd673d65e80e33f8108b6fc7e7c52 mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc.FAILED ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On Friday 12 February 2010 07:19:24 Mike Crash wrote: I'm preparing for some countries downloads. Do you use the same bin format as navit? If so, there are preprocesed countries in this URL: http://downloads.cloudmade.com/ Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR? Thank you signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On 12 February 2010 07:50, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: Yes, I used reprepro too, but the result uploaded to FTP. May be I was missed something when uploading. is there a way to sync local directory to FTP? lftp can do that. It has a mirror command. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 12 February 2010 09:22, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR? I haven't done it myself, but I've often heard people say that opkg can install a .deb Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On 11 February 2010 20:47, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: After preview about month ago here is finally first public version of MC Navi. Keep in mind it is still in hard development and this day I found some bugs, which are not yet fixed in this release (I didn't want to stop the release, because it is never-ending story). So if somebody wants to try, all information is on [1]. I have moved it to other site, because here is also Debian repository. Download source code and packages for Debian armel/i386/AMD64. [1] http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 I can't install it on qtmoko: neo:~# apt-get install mcnavi Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: mcnavi: Depends: libecore-evas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable Depends: libecore-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable Depends: libedje-svn-05 (= 0.9.92.063) but it is not installable Depends: libevas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable Depends: libgcc1 (= 1:4.4.0) but 1:4.3.2-1.1 is to be installed Depends: libgps18 (= 2.39) but it is not installable E: Broken packages ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
Margo keegiv...@gmail.com writes: I can't install it on qtmoko: Mixing binary packages between distributions is generally a bad idea. In this case they probably use different package names and version numbers. Does qtmoko have E17? What are the names of the packages? mcnavi: Depends: libecore-evas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable Depends: libecore-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable Depends: libedje-svn-05 (= 0.9.92.063) but it is not installable Depends: libevas-svn-05 (= 0.9.9.063) but it is not installable Depends: libgcc1 (= 1:4.4.0) but 1:4.3.2-1.1 is to be installed Depends: libgps18 (= 2.39) but it is not installable ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
On 12 February 2010 13:55, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Margo keegiv...@gmail.com writes: I can't install it on qtmoko: Mixing binary packages between distributions is generally a bad idea. In this case they probably use different package names and version numbers. Does qtmoko have E17? What are the names of the packages? There's a package named e16 in the repository. But no packages named libecore, libedje, libevas or libgps18 (but there is libgps17). libgcc1 is version 1:4.3.2-1.1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Margo keegiv...@gmail.com writes: There's a package named e16 in the repository. But no packages named My understanding is that you need E17 but I can be wrong. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
Omlouváme se, ale tato sekce je p#ístupná pouze pro administrátory There is a flag to switch to english language on gps-routes.info Failed to fetch http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.dsc Hash Sum mismatch Failed to fetch http://www.gps-routes.info/debian/pool/main/m/mcnavi/mcnavi_0.2.4.tar.gz Hash Sum mismatch I have uploaded dists directory to wrong directory on ftp server (to dists itself), so it doesn't match, I have fixed it and it should work now Is there any opkg of your program fot trying it on SHR? For SHR I have no binaries, it needs to recompile with different libraries. I work on Debian so I provide only Debian packages. I can't install it on qtmoko: You need E17 EFL's, it will not work on qtmoko Do you use the same bin format as navit? No, I'm using different, because it works entirely different than navit. It was my first attempt to speed up navit, but I have gave up - hard to change other's code -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-released-tp4556580p4563699.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com writes:
other site, because here is also Debian repository. Download source code and
packages for Debian armel/i386/AMD64.
$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc
in debian unstable fails with
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for MCNAVI... configure: error: Package requirements (ecore ecore-evas
edje imlib2 libgps) were not met:
No package 'imlib2' found
Maybe libimlib2-dev should be added as a build-dependency? I tried
installing it but it does not seem to be currently installable:
$ sudo aptitude install libimlib2-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information... Done
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libgif-dev{a} libimlib2-dev libjpeg8-dev{ab} libpng12-dev{a} libtiff4-dev{a}
libtiffxx0c2{a}
0 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1303kB of archives. After unpacking 3645kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libjpeg8-dev: Conflicts: libjpeg62-dev but 6b-16 is installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
1) libimlib2-dev [Not Installed]
2) libjpeg8-dev [Not Installed]
3) libtiff4-dev [Not Installed]
Tier: Safe actions, Remove packages (1)
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
Did you also use debian unstable to build the packages or something
else?
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Re: MC Navi released
Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com writes: For repository - this is my first repository, so it may not be right - I What software are you using to set it up? I found reprepro really easy to use. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi released
Yes, I used reprepro too, but the result uploaded to FTP. May be I was missed something when uploading. is there a way to sync local directory to FTP? Also it would be nice to sign the repository. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-released-tp4556580p4559816.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
