new to openmoko
Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 07:42:57PM +0530, Mallikarjun V escribió: Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help. Here is a complete guide about how I've made Om2008.9 to be something for daily use: http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt Feel free to send me corrections or additional hints on it; don't miss to check out the Wiki for more and better information; HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help.Here is a complete guide about how I've made Om2008.9 to be something for daily use: http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt Feel free to send me corrections or additional hints on it; don't miss to check out the Wiki for more and better information; thanks for ur info, but i dont have internet on my openmoko and even no terminal. HIHmatthias Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g 82041 Oberhaching Germany t +498961308 351 f +498961308 399 m +491704527211 e w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 08:17:50PM +0530, Mallikarjun V escribió: Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help.Here is a complete guide about how I've made Om2008.9 to be something for daily use: http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt Feel free to send me corrections or additional hints on it; don't miss to check out the Wiki for more and better information; thanks for ur info, but i dont have internet on my openmoko and even no terminal. Connect your FR with USB to a computer with access to Internet and SSH to the FR; that should allow you to follow the procedure; check the Wiki for how to do this and how to configure USB networking. And please, assemble your email in some better (readable) way; I will not answer a next one like this; HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
How does this setup work with suspend ? Does it work to have as the every day phone ? Or does it suffer from the regular flaws that sometimes it does not wake up from suspend on call and so on ? Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 08:17:50PM +0530, Mallikarjun V escribió: Dear allI am very new to openmoko and neofreerunner and in need of sum help.I recently brought neo and om2007. was there as factory built.I reinstalled om2008.9 but dont know wat to do further.* there is no terminal* there anr no other applications except sudoku, locations, contacts, messages, dailer on the screen.* i am not able to connect to wifi even if i connect no internet* bluetooth not working.* if connect thru my laptop and open terminal and run opkg update it is giving signature error.I am lost in openmoko world.kindly help.Here is a complete guide about how I've made Om2008.9 to be something for daily use: http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt Feel free to send me corrections or additional hints on it; don't miss to check out the Wiki for more and better information; thanks for ur info, but i dont have internet on my openmoko and even no terminal. Connect your FR with USB to a computer with access to Internet and SSH to the FR; that should allow you to follow the procedure; check the Wiki for how to do this and how to configure USB networking. And please, assemble your email in some better (readable) way; I will not answer a next one like this; HIH matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
Matthias Apitz wrote: [...] Connect your FR with USB to a computer with access to Internet and SSH to the FR; that should allow you to follow the procedure; check the Wiki for how to do this and how to configure USB networking. And please, assemble your email in some better (readable) way; I will not answer a next one like this; HIH matthias Check some Wiki pages, USB networking: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking When you can SSH to the FR, you can use 'opkg' to install a terminal application in the FR. Or, you can use 'Installer' UI application to install it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Installer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opkg Cheers, Erin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new to openmoko
El día Sunday, November 09, 2008 a las 09:41:20PM +0100, Andreas Wallin escribió: How does this setup work with suspend ? I do not use suspend; Does it work to have as the every day phone ? Or does it suffer from the regular flaws that sometimes it does not wake up from suspend on call and so on ? It does work as my every day phone; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki - New Page - OpenMoko Community Applications
Hi JW, This is wonderful. Thanks for coming up with the idea and for implementing it. I look forward to seeing more applications on this page. Regards, Michael JW wrote: Hi OpenMoko Community, I was thinking about the target market for Neo FreeRunner - the non-geek smartphone user. There is very little to tempt them in the current wiki and indeed the main page dedicated to them is * hidden halfway down the main page * refers to them as basic end users Both of these need changed but I haven't done this yet as I didn't want to mess with the main page structure. However I did create a new page to provide an advert for all the great software that is being ported or developed for the OpenMoko platform right now. I have filled in two example apps I personally heard about (hope the devs feel ok to be featured!). Please have a look and as usual change what you want done better :-) The Basic_End-user page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Basic_End-user The new OpenMoko Community Applications Page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Community_Applications JW ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki - New Page - OpenMoko Community Applications
Shawn Rutledge wrote: And BTW this method would not work for finding TangoGPS, because the ipkg is on its own separate site. (Why? it must mean it's too hard to get a new ipkg into the regular repository, right?) Getting it into the openmoko feeds requires 1) Getting it into OpenEmbedded 2) Adding it to the openmoko-feeds recipe. Admittedly, #1 is a fairly high barrier to entry. -- Rod ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki - New Page - OpenMoko Community Applications
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 16:48 -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote: And BTW this method would not work for finding TangoGPS, because the ipkg is on its own separate site. (Why? it must mean it's too hard to get a new ipkg into the regular repository, right?) I haven't yet asked anybody to get tangoGPS into the offical repository - I first want to collect user expericene feedback. However: I like Ubuntu's idea with Universe / Multiverse. The first being the official set of apps maintained or endorsed by Openmoko and the second one being a wider collection of software. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re[2]: New to OpenMoko
clare wrote: Hi Michael, Another little difficulty: on that site, there are Snapshot images which are clearly labelled gta01 and gta02. But how do I tell which are the gta01 out of pairs carrying only identifiers such as svnr3801 and svnr3874 ? Well, those which don't carry fic-gta01 and fic-gta02 either carry neo1973 or no identifier -- both indicates that they're not machine specific. Regards, :M: -- Dr. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www.vanille-media.de ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
clare wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Hi Michael, Another little difficulty: on that site, there are Snapshot images which are clearly labelled gta01 and gta02. But how do I tell which are the gta01 out of pairs carrying only identifiers such as svnr3801 and svnr3874 ? Hi Clare, Those would be the kernel images, and the same images work for both GTA01 and GTA02. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
On 1/16/08, andy selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me. Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ? I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm not sure how easy it is to get it usable as a phone but qtopia worked straight away and.. *I like the UI *There is a gps app on qtopia *Usable with fingers (I lost my stylus) * ..Err help me out here Lorn Unfortunatly *there is no terminal *if it doesnt register to the network the phone stays locked When this happens to me I just reboot it and the next time it works (stays unregistered but I can use the apps). * battery life of ~ 5hours Isn't this a hardware problem? The max idling time is about 7 hours for the OpenMoko software; for actually using it as a phone, probably 5 hours. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
On 1/17/08, Barry Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, I've flashed the rootfs and a new kernel. So then I got all excited and inserted my SIM into it and powered up. Turns out I should have read some more. My current phone (Nokia N80 - can I run openmoko on that?), is a 3G phone and it seems that the neo doesn't like it. I then stole one of my teams SIM and it fired up fine. I get a GSM signal but cant make phone calls. I am still finding my way around the phone. I noticed that the icons disappeared from the home page, anyway I'm off to investigate the machine. Sometimes they crash. Use Qtopia. One thing though cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 Only gives errors at present cu: open (/dev/ttyACM0): Permission denied cu: /dev/ttyACM0: Line in use cu is finicky. Do `chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttyACM0` My Linux systems skills obviously need honing. Anyway, I'll head off and study now. Stay well, Barry Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Michael Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following: Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to connect to the machine or edit files or whatever. I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any advice. I am very excited by this. Stay well, Barry ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Barry Steele hpfm solutions http://www.hpfm.com.au (o) +612 8206 1822 (f) +612 9929 3653 Stay Happy, Stay Well, get involved... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re[2]: New to OpenMoko
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Lorn Potter writes: andy selby wrote: u, better programming API? No, openmoko uses GTK. Yes, the current incarnation. There are various interest groups working on different and higher level APIs. I'm very confident that we can distill the best framework out of all these initiatives. This is the open source way :) Regards, :M: -- Dr. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www.vanille-media.de ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
Subject: Re[2]: New to OpenMoko Date: Thu 17 Jan 08 01:11:13PM +0100 Quoting Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): No, openmoko uses GTK. Yes, the current incarnation. There are various interest groups working on different and higher level APIs. I'm very confident that we can distill the best framework out of all these initiatives. This is the open source way :) As long as you do not decide to precipitate from C to C++... ;-) Carlo PS any news of a model with a QWERTY keyboard, a-la Nokia E61i? This would be much welcome (at least from me) -- * Se la Strada e la sua Virtu' non fossero state messe da parte, * K * Carlo E. Prelz - [EMAIL PROTECTED] che bisogno ci sarebbe * di parlare tanto di amore e di rettitudine? (Chuang-Tzu) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
/me is another QWERTY fan. I recently had to replace my dead Treo 650 with another QWERTY solution. I bought a cheap smart phone running Windows Mobile. I am now in league with the devil :) IMO I think there is a market for low-cost QWERTY smart phones. I think something like the Sidekick Slide targeting the yoof market would be a good addition later on down the line. John. PS any news of a model with a QWERTY keyboard, a-la Nokia E61i? This would be much welcome (at least from me) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re[2]: New to OpenMoko
Carlo E. Prelz wrote: Subject: Re[2]: New to OpenMoko Date: Thu 17 Jan 08 01:11:13PM +0100 Quoting Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): No, openmoko uses GTK. Yes, the current incarnation. There are various interest groups working on different and higher level APIs. I'm very confident that we can distill the best framework out of all these initiatives. This is the open source way As long as you do not decide to precipitate from C to C++... Well, first, it will be less of a decision, but rather something like survival of the fittest. Second, compiled languages are fine for performance critical stuff. Coding application logic in a scripting language makes much more sense to me. At the end of the day, efficiency at creation time can matter more than efficiency at run time. I expect this to be an important factor in the future -- if not already. PS any news of a model with a QWERTY keyboard, a-la Nokia E61i? This would be much welcome (at least from me) Same here :) Regards, :M: -- Dr. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www.vanille-media.de ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:03:01PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Well, first, it will be less of a decision, but rather something like survival of the fittest. Second, compiled languages are fine for performance critical stuff. Coding application logic in a scripting language makes much more sense to me. At the end of the day, efficiency at creation time can matter more than efficiency at run time. I expect this to be an important factor in the future -- if not already. Please! For example, the dialer logic for phone numbers has to be scriptable. How can it possibly know which numbers are long distance? What if I have a long-distance plan that works by dialing through another number and getting dialtone, but only if I'm in an area that is not long-distance to my home area code? What about how to decide whether to dial over the cell network or over VOIP (SIP or IAX), based on whether the ping I sent my VOIP provider a minute ago succeeded? All of this is going to want scripting, and that's just for the dialer app (though it may be one of the most complex sets of rules). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
Thanks Clare, You are absolutely right, and we've known it. We need to make this more visible. It's just been a matter of resources and priorities. We will get to this very shortly.. Michael clare wrote: Hi Michael, THis is a very interesting site. It is *very* disappointing that it has been so well hidden from me as a wiki user - .. YOu will see at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories that the latest from * Official downloads * Recent/latest builds is 21 Nov and 1 Dec. clare. On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Hi Michael, Another little difficulty: on that site, there are Snapshot images which are clearly labelled gta01 and gta02. But how do I tell which are the gta01 out of pairs carrying only identifiers such as svnr3801 and svnr3874 ? THank you, clare ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New to OpenMoko
Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following: Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to connect to the machine or edit files or whatever. I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any advice. I am very excited by this. Stay well, Barry -- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following: Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to connect to the machine or edit files or whatever. I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any advice. I am very excited by this. Stay well, Barry The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one. For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :) -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Michael Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following: Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to connect to the machine or edit files or whatever. I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any advice. I am very excited by this. Stay well, Barry ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
Thanks Michael, I will let you know how we get on. Looks like a learning opportunity. Love the look of the machine btw. Stay well, Barry Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Michael Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following: Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to connect to the machine or edit files or whatever. I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any advice. I am very excited by this. Stay well, Barry ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Barry Steele hpfm solutions http://www.hpfm.com.au (o) +612 8206 1822 (f) +612 9929 3653 Stay Happy, Stay Well, get involved... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
Thanks Lorn, Will let you know how I get on. Barry Lorn Potter wrote: Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following: Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to connect to the machine or edit files or whatever. I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any advice. I am very excited by this. Stay well, Barry The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one. For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :) -- Barry Steele hpfm solutions http://www.hpfm.com.au (o) +612 8206 1822 (f) +612 9929 3653 Stay Happy, Stay Well, get involved... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
0n Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:55:53AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one. For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :) Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me. Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ? -aW IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
Wilkinson, Alex wrote: IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. and besides, Qtopia is developed in Brisbane Australia :) -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:55:53AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one. For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :) Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me. Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ? Well, I am a little biased, but Qtopia is a more mature and stable phone software. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me. Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ? I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm not sure how easy it is to get it usable as a phone but qtopia worked straight away and.. *I like the UI *There is a gps app on qtopia *Usable with fingers (I lost my stylus) * ..Err help me out here Lorn Unfortunatly *there is no terminal *if it doesnt register to the network the phone stays locked * battery life of ~ 5hours ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New to OpenMoko
andy selby wrote: On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me. Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ? I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm not sure how easy it is to get it usable as a phone but qtopia worked straight away and.. *I like the UI *There is a gps app on qtopia (goxboxlive images) *Usable with fingers (I lost my stylus) * ..Err help me out here Lorn u, better programming API? ;) Unfortunatly *there is no terminal what would a typical user need this for? *if it doesnt register to the network the phone stays locked It should timeout after a minute or two and let you in to at least use the gui. * battery life of ~ 5hours This is endemic to the hardware. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Lorn Potter writes: andy selby wrote: u, better programming API? ;) No, openmoko uses GTK. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi Folks, I've flashed the rootfs and a new kernel. So then I got all excited and inserted my SIM into it and powered up. Turns out I should have read some more. My current phone (Nokia N80 - can I run openmoko on that?), is a 3G phone and it seems that the neo doesn't like it. I then stole one of my teams SIM and it fired up fine. I get a GSM signal but cant make phone calls. I am still finding my way around the phone. I noticed that the icons disappeared from the home page, anyway I'm off to investigate the machine. One thing though cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 Only gives errors at present cu: open (/dev/ttyACM0): Permission denied cu: /dev/ttyACM0: Line in use My Linux systems skills obviously need honing. Anyway, I'll head off and study now. Stay well, Barry Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Michael Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following: Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to connect to the machine or edit files or whatever. I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any advice. I am very excited by this. Stay well, Barry ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Barry Steele hpfm solutions http://www.hpfm.com.au (o) +612 8206 1822 (f) +612 9929 3653 Stay Happy, Stay Well, get involved... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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To the best of my knowledge, Telstra's 3G network (Australia) runs on 850MHz, which isn't supported at the moment. There was a discussion about the support of this frequency not too long back. Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Steele Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 4:42 PM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re: New to OpenMoko Hi Folks, I've flashed the rootfs and a new kernel. So then I got all excited and inserted my SIM into it and powered up. Turns out I should have read some more. My current phone (Nokia N80 - can I run openmoko on that?), is a 3G phone and it seems that the neo doesn't like it. I then stole one of my teams SIM and it fired up fine. I get a GSM signal but cant make phone calls. I am still finding my way around the phone. I noticed that the icons disappeared from the home page, anyway I'm off to investigate the machine. One thing though cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 Only gives errors at present cu: open (/dev/ttyACM0): Permission denied cu: /dev/ttyACM0: Line in use My Linux systems skills obviously need honing. Anyway, I'll head off and study now. Stay well, Barry Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Michael Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up. I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following: Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to connect to the machine or edit files or whatever. I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any advice. I am very excited by this. Stay well, Barry ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Barry Steele hpfm solutions http://www.hpfm.com.au (o) +612 8206 1822 (f) +612 9929 3653 Stay Happy, Stay Well, get involved... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Jan 17, 2008 1:45 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * battery life of ~ 5hours This is endemic to the hardware. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech I thought we cleared out that this was not a hardware problem? Or maybe not a hardware problem in GTA02. I really want the GTA02, but if it is not going to last more than two days, I don't see the point, and that is truly sad. Best Regards, Jens ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi Michael, THis is a very interesting site. It is *very* disappointing that it has been so well hidden from me as a wiki user - .. YOu will see at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories that the latest from * Official downloads * Recent/latest builds is 21 Nov and 1 Dec. clare. On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
