Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding the Messaging Support in OpenMoko
Salve Suresh! I'm just a listmember, but maybe my answer will help you. The core developers are very busy at the moment so everybody has to use patience when things will be published. And also the official realease would create more feedback when they are able to publish unpublished fakts ... :) On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Suresh Kumar Sugguna wrote: Can any one of the developer inform me about the messaging (SMS or EMS or MMS) support in OpenMoko? I was searching for the specification document or web address (link) regarding the messaging support in OpenMoko software code. AFAIK when the first Neo1973 will be shipped to devleopers in February/March SMS function will be running. I don't think that EMS and MMS is limmted by hardware, so it will be a question of time when this will be running as well. Consider that full running devices for endusers will be shipped in September - so the devices now are for pleople who like to develope or testing - it should be not a mobile replacement for productive use for pleople that only want to have a working device. Kindly mail me your responses at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kindly please consider that on mailing list could be thousands, on some several ten thousands of subscriber. Crossposting is not polite - better is to choose *one* mailinglist and wait for response, and for question like this, the community mailinglist would be the right one. My formal reaction is not personl... I just try to avoid uncultivated crossposting that makes the separate developer mailingist contraproductive. community = open community dissucssion about everything, ideas, whishes, questions, documentation, translations... openmoko-devel = software design - SDK questions... And the access to the OpenMoko deleloper launch box is not restricted to openmoko-devel poster, this box is also going to community poster ;) Waiting for your express replies, Hope that my answer was quick and informative enough. And don't get me wrong - I'm happy about your interest about OpenMoko/Neo1973 and the question about EMS and MMS is a good one - but let us give the core team time until the 11th Februar - see Sean's (project leader) roadmap anouncment: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html So you are very welcome on the community mailinglist to share your wishes and ideas what we could do with OpenMoko better then existing smart phone solutions. E.g. because you are interested in SMS/EMS/MMS - do you have any ideas, what we could make better? How? Greetings, rob ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding the Messaging Support in OpenMoko
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 01:49:36PM +0100, Robert Michel wrote: I'm just a listmember, but maybe my answer will help you. The core developers are very busy at the moment so everybody has to use patience when things will be published. exactly, thanks. AFAIK when the first Neo1973 will be shipped to devleopers in February/March SMS function will be running. I don't think that EMS and MMS is limmted by hardware, so it will be a question of time when this will be running as well. We don't consider MMS as something that the typical user of the Neo1973 would use anyway. We have SMS, and we have GPRS for services like ICQ, Jabber, e-mail and the like. If somebody in the community wants to implement MMS, that's great. But we don't see it as a core feature of the device. -- - Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/ Software for the world's first truly open Free Software mobile phone ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding the Messaging Support in OpenMoko
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 14:05 +0100, Harald Welte wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 01:49:36PM +0100, Robert Michel wrote: I'm just a listmember, but maybe my answer will help you. The core developers are very busy at the moment so everybody has to use patience when things will be published. exactly, thanks. AFAIK when the first Neo1973 will be shipped to devleopers in February/March SMS function will be running. I don't think that EMS and MMS is limmted by hardware, so it will be a question of time when this will be running as well. We don't consider MMS as something that the typical user of the Neo1973 would use anyway. We have SMS, and we have GPRS for services like ICQ, Jabber, e-mail and the like. If somebody in the community wants to implement MMS, that's great. But we don't see it as a core feature of the device. That's good to know. Also, who uses MMS? Seems like the typical user would just email and attach media and/or just s/ftp Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding the Messaging Support in OpenMoko
Jon Phillips wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 14:05 +0100, Harald Welte wrote: [...] We don't consider MMS as something that the typical user of the Neo1973 would use anyway. We have SMS, and we have GPRS for services like ICQ, Jabber, e-mail and the like. If somebody in the community wants to implement MMS, that's great. But we don't see it as a core feature of the device. That's good to know. Also, who uses MMS? Seems like the typical user would just email and attach media and/or just s/ftp Jon :-/ I use SMS, MMS, and email a lot and I am very much a deverloper as well as a user. -david p.s. the subject line is no crossposting! which list do people want this to remain on? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
I proposed to move to the community mailinglist Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding the Messaging Support in OpenMoko
Salve David! On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, David Ford wrote: p.s. the subject line is no crossposting! which list do people want this to remain on? I think it is clear that it is a general talk about SMS/MMS and not the question how to use the SDK, how to crosscompiling. Without a clear seperation of both list is having his 2 list contraproductive. The core developer and the most active people will read both list. openmoko-devel would be good to have with a focus on concrete coding issus so that programmer find information fast and good programmer will not unsubscribe because on to much general talk. community means not just a fan-club, maybe this will change with a shipping to endusers - but then I would be for a new mailingist for consumers: openmoko-users. community IMHO should be a general discussion place, and openmoko-devel when it is about coding problems or knowhow. E.g. the question about FAX modem, AT commands and GPRS class is also in a way about developing - but IMHO this topic is without any direct programming issue - so it is community. Also translation is important, also for developing software to have localisation, but the question who will could translate which language is general talk, better on community - it could also motivate people with low or no programming skill to join and support this great project. Then openmoko-devel would be stay clear that hackers/coders/programmers will find fast the information that they need. So excuse my action on this point, but without care about a clear separation, one list would be better then two. When Harald, Sean or Mickey have another idea about the use of community and openmoko-dev - please write us how to use the two list in a clear and efficient way. let us see what Harald has written: --snip-- 2) openmoko-devel at lists.openmoko.org This is a mailinglist dedicated to OpenMoko development. From developers, for developers, by developers. Please do not ask questions related product sales, availability, support, usage, wishlist items, licensing or any other topic that is not related to technical development on this list. Initially, we didn't want to start this list before 'Phase 0' (Feb. 11), i.e. when there are actually developers with the device in their hands, and when the source code has been released. However, due to the large demand, we were convinced that it was important to start this list right now. Nonetheless, keep in mind that the OpenMoko development team is extremely small. Everybody is concentrating to make the 'Phase 0' release happen on schedule. Therefore, the amount of time that we can spend to deal with
