Re: microSD support
32gb, the max size of a fat32 system I think the 32 in "fat32" refers to bits not gb, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32 I'm currently using an 80Gb FAT32 drive at this very moment. Part of the confusion might be that Windows won't allow you to easily format a "large" drive in FAT32 but instead forces you to NTFS. regards Crane, Matthew wrote: I think it can be a more general then that. The cards that are supported would be any standards compliant card, and the adress space would be limited by what the kernel supports. The SD card association has limtied the size of sdhcto 32gb, the max size of a fat32 system. The kernel can support disks this large as can the mmc card driver. No doubt there's a lot of crappy SD cards out there that don't comply well to standard interfaces though, but unless you're really really skimping there's likely nothing to worry about with any common microsd cards. You could even support larger cards because we aren't limited to fat32 on a linux phone. But has anybody found an SD card that doesn't work with existing hardware?? I only wish I had hardware so I can't test the few cards I have.. Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Tabbal Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:52 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: microSD support I think he's asking if the phone will support SDHC, which is required for larger cards and many older devices do not support. Or perhaps if 8GB in particular has been tested. It would be nice to know exactly what is supported, as those 8GB cards are getting cheap lately. We might have to wait for the first phones to ship to know for sure what will or will not work. Right now, only the OM dev team at FIC could test it for sure, and they are kind of busy getting mass production going. I think I'd rather have them do that and test the microSD size limits later. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From wikipedia entry on current sd cards: Memory capacity = (C_SIZE+1) * 512 K = (222-1+1) * 512 K = (4194304-1+1) * 512K = 2147483648 K = 2048 GB So you're probally good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Giorgio M. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: microSD support I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? what is the limit? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: microSD support
Yea, I got the 32 number from another wikipedia page, I didn't infer it from the name. I don't think it has much really to do with 32bits either for that matter, likely the 32 was entirely a marketing distinction. But that doesn't matter, the important thing here is that Micro$oft sucks. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin fredthecat Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:42 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: microSD support 32gb, the max size of a fat32 system I think the 32 in fat32 refers to bits not gb, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32 I'm currently using an 80Gb FAT32 drive at this very moment. Part of the confusion might be that Windows won't allow you to easily format a large drive in FAT32 but instead forces you to NTFS. regards Crane, Matthew wrote: I think it can be a more general then that. The cards that are supported would be any standards compliant card, and the adress space would be limited by what the kernel supports. The SD card association has limtied the size of sdhc to 32gb, the max size of a fat32 system. The kernel can support disks this large as can the mmc card driver. No doubt there's a lot of crappy SD cards out there that don't comply well to standard interfaces though, but unless you're really really skimping there's likely nothing to worry about with any common microsd cards. You could even support larger cards because we aren't limited to fat32 on a linux phone. But has anybody found an SD card that doesn't work with existing hardware?? I only wish I had hardware so I can't test the few cards I have.. Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Tabbal Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:52 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: microSD support I think he's asking if the phone will support SDHC, which is required for larger cards and many older devices do not support. Or perhaps if 8GB in particular has been tested. It would be nice to know exactly what is supported, as those 8GB cards are getting cheap lately. We might have to wait for the first phones to ship to know for sure what will or will not work. Right now, only the OM dev team at FIC could test it for sure, and they are kind of busy getting mass production going. I think I'd rather have them do that and test the microSD size limits later. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From wikipedia entry on current sd cards: Memory capacity = (C_SIZE+1) * 512 K = (222-1+1) * 512 K = (4194304-1+1) * 512K = 2147483648 K = 2048 GB So you're probally good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giorgio M. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: microSD support I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? what is the limit? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: microSD support
Crane, Matthew writes: Yea, I got the 32 number from another wikipedia page, I didn't infer it from the name. I don't think it has much really to do with 32bits either for that matter, likely the 32 was entirely a marketing distinction. No, the 32 means that the FAT entries are 32 bits (in contrast to the earlier FAT aka FAT12 and FAT16 filesystems). But that doesn't matter, the important thing here is that Micro$oft sucks. That's a separte issue :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: microSD support
To beat this ad-nauseum.. From wikipedia fat entry: Finally in November 1987, Compaq DOS 3.31 introduced what is today called the FAT16 format, with the expansion of the 16-bit disk sector index to 32 bits. The fat32 section states: Microsoft decided to implement a newer generation of FAT, known as FAT32, with cluster values held in a 32-bit field, of which 28 bits are used to hold the cluster number, for a maximum of approximately 268 million (228) clusters. This would allow for drive sizes of up to 8 tebibytes with 32KiB clusters, but the boot sector uses a 32-bit field for the sector count, limiting volume size to 2TiB on a hard disk with 512 byte sectors. But really this amounts to an excuse to explain why they called it fat32, which was really a marketing decsion. No doubt if one were to dig into the wiki logs the person who explained this probally edited other M$ related entires. (caffine induced paranoia? Possibly..) The core explanation being that M$ sucks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pfeiffer Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:30 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: RE: microSD support Crane, Matthew writes: Yea, I got the 32 number from another wikipedia page, I didn't infer it from the name. I don't think it has much really to do with 32bits either for that matter, likely the 32 was entirely a marketing distinction. No, the 32 means that the FAT entries are 32 bits (in contrast to the earlier FAT aka FAT12 and FAT16 filesystems). But that doesn't matter, the important thing here is that Micro$oft sucks. That's a separte issue :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: microSD support
You are too kind to microsoft. Similar to the 4gb RAM barrier it is pretty much a 100% marketing decsion to support file systems of a given size in a particular OS. Why would anybody shell out the coin for the fancy new OS's with their funny looking guis if old ones worked just fine with all the new hardware? Microsoft even had to go beyond these limitations and charge extra for XP, vs. vista, so that people would find some easy reason to actually buy vista. I just paid the 40$ tax for XP on a recent purchase. The RAM footprint mostly would have to do with the number of files on disk, not the addressable disk size. I expect that nearly all modern file system implementations either use 64bit pointers or a 32bit pointer, rarely in between, except for 48bit (32 + 16) implementations. It would be impractical for a driver to attempt to exploit effeciencies around disk pointers in a 32bit vs. 36bit disk space for example. Complexity can often be much more expensive then ineffeciencies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of enaut Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:52 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: microSD support Kevin Dean schrieb: It's also worth noting that the 32GB limit is also artificial. 2048GB is the technical limit for SDHC, if I recall correctly. but did you ever think of Ram usage at this sizes? it would exeed the neo by far - thats why microsoft limitad the size and thats why unix did it different from the beginning. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: microSD support
From wikipedia entry on current sd cards: Memory capacity = (C_SIZE+1) * 512 K = (222-1+1) * 512 K = (4194304-1+1) * 512K = 2147483648 K = 2048 GB So you're probally good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giorgio M. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: microSD support I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? what is the limit? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD support
Giorgio M. wrote: I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. yes I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? yes. all SD and SDHC compatible cards should work. tested with 4gbyte myself. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD support
I think he's asking if the phone will support SDHC, which is required for larger cards and many older devices do not support. Or perhaps if 8GB in particular has been tested. It would be nice to know exactly what is supported, as those 8GB cards are getting cheap lately. We might have to wait for the first phones to ship to know for sure what will or will not work. Right now, only the OM dev team at FIC could test it for sure, and they are kind of busy getting mass production going. I think I'd rather have them do that and test the microSD size limits later. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From wikipedia entry on current sd cards: Memory capacity = (C_SIZE+1) * 512 K = (222-1+1) * 512 K = (4194304-1+1) * 512K = 2147483648 K = 2048 GB So you're probally good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giorgio M. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: microSD support I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? what is the limit? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD support
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think he's asking if the phone will support SDHC, which is required for larger cards and many older devices do not support. Or perhaps if 8GB in particular has been tested. It would be nice to know exactly what is supported, as those 8GB cards are getting cheap lately. We might have to wait for the first phones to ship to know for sure what will or will not work. Right now, only the OM dev team at FIC could test it for sure, and they are kind of busy getting mass production going. I think I'd rather have them do that and test the microSD size limits later. There's a list of supported microSDs for GTA01 on the wiki. I'm pretty sure that there wil be no difference in GTA02. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD support
On pe, 2008-05-09 at 16:48 +0200, thomasg wrote: There's a list of supported microSDs for GTA01 on the wiki. I'm pretty sure that there wil be no difference in GTA02. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards Actually GTA01 is not a good comparison in this case because the microSD reader in GTA02 is hooked up to the GPU, as opposed to the SoC, so it's quite a low-level difference. (I have an 8 GB one in my GTA01 myself.) That said, Joachim verifying a 4 GB card working gives good reason to assume pretty much any SDHC will. -- Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Helsinki ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD support
From: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] On pe, 2008-05-09 at 16:48 +0200, thomasg wrote: There's a list of supported microSDs for GTA01 on the wiki. I'm pretty sure that there wil be no difference in GTA02. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards Actually GTA01 is not a good comparison in this case because the microSD reader in GTA02 is hooked up to the GPU, as opposed to the SoC, so it's quite a low-level difference. (I have an 8 GB one in my GTA01 myself.) That said, Joachim verifying a 4 GB card working gives good reason to assume pretty much any SDHC will. -- Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Helsinki Mikko, if you have an 8 GB micro-sd working in your GTA01, could you update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards with it? I don't see any 8 GB confirmed on that page... Thanks! Bobby -- If it doesn't make you smile, you're doing something wrong. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: microSD support
I think it can be a more general then that. The cards that are supported would be any standards compliant card, and the adress space would be limited by what the kernel supports. The SD card association has limtied the size of sdhc to 32gb, the max size of a fat32 system. The kernel can support disks this large as can the mmc card driver. No doubt there's a lot of crappy SD cards out there that don't comply well to standard interfaces though, but unless you're really really skimping there's likely nothing to worry about with any common microsd cards. You could even support larger cards because we aren't limited to fat32 on a linux phone. But has anybody found an SD card that doesn't work with existing hardware?? I only wish I had hardware so I can't test the few cards I have.. Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Tabbal Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:52 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: microSD support I think he's asking if the phone will support SDHC, which is required for larger cards and many older devices do not support. Or perhaps if 8GB in particular has been tested. It would be nice to know exactly what is supported, as those 8GB cards are getting cheap lately. We might have to wait for the first phones to ship to know for sure what will or will not work. Right now, only the OM dev team at FIC could test it for sure, and they are kind of busy getting mass production going. I think I'd rather have them do that and test the microSD size limits later. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From wikipedia entry on current sd cards: Memory capacity = (C_SIZE+1) * 512 K = (222-1+1) * 512 K = (4194304-1+1) * 512K = 2147483648 K = 2048 GB So you're probally good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giorgio M. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: microSD support I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? what is the limit? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Crane, Matthew wrote: The SD card association has limtied the size of sdhc to 32gb, the max size of a fat32 system. I just want to give a short note that this is not true. Fat32 supports partition size of up to 2TiB. Microsoft artificially limited Windows 2000 and following to be able to create Fat32 partitions of max 32GiB. Using other tools to create them (such as mkfs.vfat) it's still possible to create those partitions. And Windows reads and writes to them. Of course now that there's a reasonable stable NTFS access from Linux it doesn't matter that much anymore but a few years back this was quite a pain in the ass. just my 0.02€ Stefan No doubt there's a lot of crappy SD cards out there that don't comply well to standard interfaces though, but unless you're really really skimping there's likely nothing to worry about with any common microsd cards. You could even support larger cards because we aren't limited to fat32 on a linux phone. But has anybody found an SD card that doesn't work with existing hardware?? I only wish I had hardware so I can't test the few cards I have.. Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Tabbal Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:52 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: microSD support I think he's asking if the phone will support SDHC, which is required for larger cards and many older devices do not support. Or perhaps if 8GB in particular has been tested. It would be nice to know exactly what is supported, as those 8GB cards are getting cheap lately. We might have to wait for the first phones to ship to know for sure what will or will not work. Right now, only the OM dev team at FIC could test it for sure, and they are kind of busy getting mass production going. I think I'd rather have them do that and test the microSD size limits later. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From wikipedia entry on current sd cards: Memory capacity = (C_SIZE+1) * 512 K = (222-1+1) * 512 K = (4194304-1+1) * 512K = 2147483648 K = 2048 GB So you're probally good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giorgio M. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: microSD support I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? what is the limit? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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It's also worth noting that the 32GB limit is also artificial. 2048GB is the technical limit for SDHC, if I recall correctly. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Stefan Misch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crane, Matthew wrote: The SD card association has limtied the size of sdhc to 32gb, the max size of a fat32 system. I just want to give a short note that this is not true. Fat32 supports partition size of up to 2TiB. Microsoft artificially limited Windows 2000 and following to be able to create Fat32 partitions of max 32GiB. Using other tools to create them (such as mkfs.vfat) it's still possible to create those partitions. And Windows reads and writes to them. Of course now that there's a reasonable stable NTFS access from Linux it doesn't matter that much anymore but a few years back this was quite a pain in the ass. just my 0.02€ Stefan No doubt there's a lot of crappy SD cards out there that don't comply well to standard interfaces though, but unless you're really really skimping there's likely nothing to worry about with any common microsd cards. You could even support larger cards because we aren't limited to fat32 on a linux phone. But has anybody found an SD card that doesn't work with existing hardware?? I only wish I had hardware so I can't test the few cards I have.. Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Tabbal Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:52 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: microSD support I think he's asking if the phone will support SDHC, which is required for larger cards and many older devices do not support. Or perhaps if 8GB in particular has been tested. It would be nice to know exactly what is supported, as those 8GB cards are getting cheap lately. We might have to wait for the first phones to ship to know for sure what will or will not work. Right now, only the OM dev team at FIC could test it for sure, and they are kind of busy getting mass production going. I think I'd rather have them do that and test the microSD size limits later. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From wikipedia entry on current sd cards: Memory capacity = (C_SIZE+1) * 512 K = (222-1+1) * 512 K = (4194304-1+1) * 512K = 2147483648 K = 2048 GB So you're probally good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giorgio M. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: microSD support I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? what is the limit? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Kevin Dean schrieb: It's also worth noting that the 32GB limit is also artificial. 2048GB is the technical limit for SDHC, if I recall correctly. but did you ever think of Ram usage at this sizes? it would exeed the neo by far - thats why microsoft limitad the size and thats why unix did it different from the beginning. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Although the point is moot if there aren't any manufacturers exploiting that. On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 16:44 -0400, Kevin Dean wrote: It's also worth noting that the 32GB limit is also artificial. 2048GB is the technical limit for SDHC, if I recall correctly. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Stefan Misch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crane, Matthew wrote: The SD card association has limtied the size of sdhc to 32gb, the max size of a fat32 system. I just want to give a short note that this is not true. Fat32 supports partition size of up to 2TiB. Microsoft artificially limited Windows 2000 and following to be able to create Fat32 partitions of max 32GiB. Using other tools to create them (such as mkfs.vfat) it's still possible to create those partitions. And Windows reads and writes to them. Of course now that there's a reasonable stable NTFS access from Linux it doesn't matter that much anymore but a few years back this was quite a pain in the ass. just my 0.02€ Stefan No doubt there's a lot of crappy SD cards out there that don't comply well to standard interfaces though, but unless you're really really skimping there's likely nothing to worry about with any common microsd cards. You could even support larger cards because we aren't limited to fat32 on a linux phone. But has anybody found an SD card that doesn't work with existing hardware?? I only wish I had hardware so I can't test the few cards I have.. Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Tabbal Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:52 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: microSD support I think he's asking if the phone will support SDHC, which is required for larger cards and many older devices do not support. Or perhaps if 8GB in particular has been tested. It would be nice to know exactly what is supported, as those 8GB cards are getting cheap lately. We might have to wait for the first phones to ship to know for sure what will or will not work. Right now, only the OM dev team at FIC could test it for sure, and they are kind of busy getting mass production going. I think I'd rather have them do that and test the microSD size limits later. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From wikipedia entry on current sd cards: Memory capacity = (C_SIZE+1) * 512 K = (222-1+1) * 512 K = (4194304-1+1) * 512K = 2147483648 K = 2048 GB So you're probally good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giorgio M. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: microSD support I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? what is the limit? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
