Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
Bill, I'm on the Aussie Vodafone network, using an old sim card I've had for *many* years (it's red and labelled sim^2 [i.e sim squared]), and FSO3 works fine for me, although sometimes it takes a little while to prompt for my PIN. as for ASU I can't be sure - the last time I tested it it registered, but again took a while, but It only lasted maybe 2 reboots before it got reverted back to 2007.2 again. I don't have FSO on at the moment, but I'm planning on giving it another shot one of these days. hopefully something here will be mildly helpfull. If there'a sny other info I can provide please ask. Cheers, -Dale W.Kenworthy wrote: I am having a problem registering anything ASU/FSO based with the Australian Vodafone GSM network. Its not the SIM card but ASU/FSO as 2007.2 works fine. I also believe that other Aussies are having the same problem. I found some pages describing how to manually talk to the GSM chip, but they are 2007 based and dont work for me. Is there anything on how to talk to the GSM chip (mimicom?) on the wiki? Are the connect commands built into the GSM daemon, or in a config file somewhere they can be checked/modded? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
On Tuesday 16 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I am having a problem registering anything ASU/FSO based with the Australian Vodafone GSM network. Its not the SIM card but ASU/FSO as 2007.2 works fine. I also believe that other Aussies are having the same problem. I found some pages describing how to manually talk to the GSM chip, but they are 2007 based and dont work for me. Is there anything on how to talk to the GSM chip (mimicom?) on the wiki? mickeyterm in FSO gives you a connection to the GSM chip to run AT commands. Are the connect commands built into the GSM daemon, or in a config file somewhere they can be checked/modded? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
Thanks. I also found you can run the daemon in verbose mode on the command line. Doesnt appear to be asking to register. I dont have a pin set, so have just set it in my Treo to see if that is the problem. BillK On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 10:51 +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I am having a problem registering anything ASU/FSO based with the Australian Vodafone GSM network. Its not the SIM card but ASU/FSO as 2007.2 works fine. I also believe that other Aussies are having the same problem. I found some pages describing how to manually talk to the GSM chip, but they are 2007 based and dont work for me. Is there anything on how to talk to the GSM chip (mimicom?) on the wiki? mickeyterm in FSO gives you a connection to the GSM chip to run AT commands. Are the connect commands built into the GSM daemon, or in a config file somewhere they can be checked/modded? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
William Kenworthy wrote: Thanks. I also found you can run the daemon in verbose mode on the command line. Doesnt appear to be asking to register. I dont have a pin set, so have just set it in my Treo to see if that is the problem. BillK On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 10:51 +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I am having a problem registering anything ASU/FSO based with the Australian Vodafone GSM network. Its not the SIM card but ASU/FSO as 2007.2 works fine. I also believe that other Aussies are having the same problem. I found some pages describing how to manually talk to the GSM chip, but they are 2007 based and dont work for me. Is there anything on how to talk to the GSM chip (mimicom?) on the wiki? mickeyterm in FSO gives you a connection to the GSM chip to run AT commands. Are the connect commands built into the GSM daemon, or in a config file somewhere they can be checked/modded? BillK You still can use 'cu', 'socat' or 'minicom' to connect to GSM modem directly. If you use '2007.02', you can read gsmd log. If you use '2008.08', use 'logread' to see the log information from GSM modem. Check what CME or CMS error code you have. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM Cheers, Erin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
W.Kenworthy wrote: I am having a problem registering anything ASU/FSO based with the Australian Vodafone GSM network. Its not the SIM card but ASU/FSO as 2007.2 works fine. I also believe that other Aussies are having the same problem. Just as a data point, my GTA01 running FSO registers fine with Vodafone AU. (Of course, that doesn't mean yours will, but it does mean that it's possible) -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
What are the correct minicom settings? - Ive tried almost every combination without any effect - yes Ive powered on the chip before entering minicom! BillK On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 20:15 +0800, Erin Yueh wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: Thanks. I also found you can run the daemon in verbose mode on the command line. Doesnt appear to be asking to register. I dont have a pin set, so have just set it in my Treo to see if that is the problem. BillK On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 10:51 +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote: I am having a problem registering anything ASU/FSO based with the Australian Vodafone GSM network. Its not the SIM card but ASU/FSO as 2007.2 works fine. I also believe that other Aussies are having the same problem. I found some pages describing how to manually talk to the GSM chip, but they are 2007 based and dont work for me. Is there anything on how to talk to the GSM chip (mimicom?) on the wiki? mickeyterm in FSO gives you a connection to the GSM chip to run AT commands. Are the connect commands built into the GSM daemon, or in a config file somewhere they can be checked/modded? BillK You still can use 'cu', 'socat' or 'minicom' to connect to GSM modem directly. If you use '2007.02', you can read gsmd log. If you use '2008.08', use 'logread' to see the log information from GSM modem. Check what CME or CMS error code you have. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM Cheers, Erin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 19:22:59 Dale Maggee wrote: I'm on the Aussie Vodafone network, using an old sim card I've had for *many* years (it's red and labelled sim^2 [i.e sim squared]), and FSO3 works fine for me, although sometimes it takes a little while to prompt for my PIN. as for ASU I can't be sure - the last time I tested it it registered, but again took a while, but It only lasted maybe 2 reboots before it got reverted back to 2007.2 again. I own a gta02v5. I'm on Vodafone too, newer card, Vodafone logo with 'if found call' blah blah. Never had a problem. I triboot qtopia (updated against testing), om2008 (updated against testing) and FSO milestone 3 (not sure where to update - tried testing :) and all do what I'd expect. I have a pin set. Sorry, not much I can offer. One thought comes to mind though, out of all the providers I've had, Vodafone seems to have the lowest signal strength. I used to think it was my ipaq but it is the same with the FR. Maybe 2007 is driving it harder? That's about all I can think of. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
I set a pin but it only asked for it once(still no connection), and never again. I deleted 2007.2 so cant test it with that anymore, howver everything works as expected on my Treo. BillK On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 12:37 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 19:22:59 Dale Maggee wrote: I'm on the Aussie Vodafone network, using an old sim card I've had for *many* years (it's red and labelled sim^2 [i.e sim squared]), and FSO3 works fine for me, although sometimes it takes a little while to prompt for my PIN. as for ASU I can't be sure - the last time I tested it it registered, but again took a while, but It only lasted maybe 2 reboots before it got reverted back to 2007.2 again. I own a gta02v5. I'm on Vodafone too, newer card, Vodafone logo with 'if found call' blah blah. Never had a problem. I triboot qtopia (updated against testing), om2008 (updated against testing) and FSO milestone 3 (not sure where to update - tried testing :) and all do what I'd expect. I have a pin set. Sorry, not much I can offer. One thought comes to mind though, out of all the providers I've had, Vodafone seems to have the lowest signal strength. I used to think it was my ipaq but it is the same with the FR. Maybe 2007 is driving it harder? That's about all I can think of. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
Query - is there anything you do to get the pin dialog up? Have the dialler onscreen? - or just let it boot and it comes up automaticly? Billk On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 12:37 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 19:22:59 Dale Maggee wrote: I'm on the Aussie Vodafone network, using an old sim card I've had for *many* years (it's red and labelled sim^2 [i.e sim squared]), and FSO3 works fine for me, although sometimes it takes a little while to prompt for my PIN. as for ASU I can't be sure - the last time I tested it it registered, but again took a while, but It only lasted maybe 2 reboots before it got reverted back to 2007.2 again. I own a gta02v5. I'm on Vodafone too, newer card, Vodafone logo with 'if found call' blah blah. Never had a problem. I triboot qtopia (updated against testing), om2008 (updated against testing) and FSO milestone 3 (not sure where to update - tried testing :) and all do what I'd expect. I have a pin set. Sorry, not much I can offer. One thought comes to mind though, out of all the providers I've had, Vodafone seems to have the lowest signal strength. I used to think it was my ipaq but it is the same with the FR. Maybe 2007 is driving it harder? That's about all I can think of. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 12:48:05 W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 12:37 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 19:22:59 Dale Maggee wrote: I'm on the Aussie Vodafone network, using an old sim card I've had for *many* years (it's red and labelled sim^2 [i.e sim squared]), and FSO3 works fine for me, although sometimes it takes a little while to prompt for my PIN. as for ASU I can't be sure - the last time I tested it it registered, but again took a while, but It only lasted maybe 2 reboots before it got reverted back to 2007.2 again. I own a gta02v5. I'm on Vodafone too, newer card, Vodafone logo with 'if found call' blah blah. Never had a problem. I triboot qtopia (updated against testing), om2008 (updated against testing) and FSO milestone 3 (not sure where to update - tried testing :) and all do what I'd expect. I have a pin set. Sorry, not much I can offer. One thought comes to mind though, out of all the providers I've had, Vodafone seems to have the lowest signal strength. I used to think it was my ipaq but it is the same with the FR. Maybe 2007 is driving it harder? That's about all I can think of. I set a pin but it only asked for it once(still no connection), and never again. I deleted 2007.2 so cant test it with that anymore, howver everything works as expected on my Treo. Hmmm, hence why I suggest the antenna power output/sensitivity. I'm sure you've thought of this ... but have you tried another sim? Have a friend on telstra, a coworker on optus? Even if the sim is fine it will help eliminate carrier signal strength. Oh and as we are all supposedly enforcing mailling list rules now, please don't top post. Well done on the subject btw ;) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:00:31 W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 12:37 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 19:22:59 Dale Maggee wrote: I'm on the Aussie Vodafone network, using an old sim card I've had for *many* years (it's red and labelled sim^2 [i.e sim squared]), and FSO3 works fine for me, although sometimes it takes a little while to prompt for my PIN. as for ASU I can't be sure - the last time I tested it it registered, but again took a while, but It only lasted maybe 2 reboots before it got reverted back to 2007.2 again. I own a gta02v5. I'm on Vodafone too, newer card, Vodafone logo with 'if found call' blah blah. Never had a problem. I triboot qtopia (updated against testing), om2008 (updated against testing) and FSO milestone 3 (not sure where to update - tried testing :) and all do what I'd expect. I have a pin set. Sorry, not much I can offer. One thought comes to mind though, out of all the providers I've had, Vodafone seems to have the lowest signal strength. I used to think it was my ipaq but it is the same with the FR. Maybe 2007 is driving it harder? That's about all I can think of. Query - is there anything you do to get the pin dialog up? Have the dialler onscreen? - or just let it boot and it comes up automaticly? It coincides with starting X. Usually a /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart is enough (or qpe restart?). I'm not sure if it will reprompt if the pin has already been entered successfully however. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 13:06 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008 12:48:05 W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 12:37 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: Oh and as we are all supposedly enforcing mailling list rules now, please don't top post. Well done on the subject btw ;) As I stated initially, the sim works fine on 2007.2 - its only on FSO/FDOM/2008.8 where I am having the problem. I have tried another, few month old vodafone sim with the same results as my many years old one (under FDOM) Please dont bottom post unless willing to trim the mail - I waste such a lot of time scrolling its really frustrating - to the point I often never read bottom posters. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 13:11 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:00:31 W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 12:37 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 19:22:59 Dale Maggee wrote: ... Query - is there anything you do to get the pin dialog up? Have the dialler onscreen? - or just let it boot and it comes up automaticly? It coincides with starting X. Usually a /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart is enough (or qpe restart?). I'm not sure if it will reprompt if the pin has already been entered successfully however. Sarton Good hint! - restarting X and it asked for the sim (why doesnt it ask on bootup?) And I was able to connect and check voicemail! So at least its usable, now I have to figure out where the problem is. Thanks everyone for putting me on the right track (set pin, restart X). BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:56:26 W.Kenworthy wrote: As I stated initially, the sim works fine on 2007.2 - its only on FSO/FDOM/2008.8 where I am having the problem. I have tried another, few month old vodafone sim with the same results as my many years old one (under FDOM) You seemed to have missed my point completely, unless you can be sure that everything other than 2007 is driving the hardware exactly the same. I'd still recommend a provider other than vodafone for testing. Please dont bottom post unless willing to trim the mail - I waste such a lot of time scrolling its really frustrating - to the point I often never read bottom posters. It's not about your convenience as it is to be able to see the final email in an archive and derive the entire conversation. If you mean 'trim irrelevant information' than I will agree with you. Trying to enforce your own conventions to merely make a point won't fly. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO/ASU not registering on the Australian Vodafone GSM network
W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 13:11 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:00:31 W.Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 12:37 +1000, Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 19:22:59 Dale Maggee wrote: ... Query - is there anything you do to get the pin dialog up? Have the dialler onscreen? - or just let it boot and it comes up automaticly? It coincides with starting X. Usually a /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart is enough (or qpe restart?). I'm not sure if it will reprompt if the pin has already been entered successfully however. Sarton Good hint! - restarting X and it asked for the sim (why doesnt it ask on bootup?) might be because the Calypso modem in the FR is very slow to wake up and respond to initial commands. As well, it tends to fall asleep. And I was able to connect and check voicemail! So at least its usable, now I have to figure out where the problem is. Thanks everyone for putting me on the right track (set pin, restart X). BillK -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
