Re: Flashing GSM firmware (was Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?)

2009-02-24 Thread Peter Klassen
2009/2/23 Steve 'dillo Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com:
 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-
 gsm.0/power_on
 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-
 gsm.0/power_on
 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0
 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -b
 115200 -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_
 ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0
 FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments,
 2001-2004.
 Reading image file: '/home/root/
 gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok
 Bootloader: (reset target)

 Help ?
 How long should I wait for the Bootloader to respond to the s3c24xx-
 gpio b7=1 command ?

Hi Steve,
after you see Bootloader: (reset target)
you have to do
r...@om-gta02:~# s3c24xx-gpio b7=1
in the second session. This worked for me with moko11-b1 :)

Best
Peter

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-24 Thread Takke

Hi guys,

I received the Freerunner today and I went trough the same issues with a
128KB Vodafone SIM.
All you have to do is to follow (as suggested) _carefully_  this guide [0]
and I can confirm that your brad new vodafone SIM will start working
properly.

Bye,
 Takke

[0] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
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Flashing GSM firmware (was Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?)

2009-02-23 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay

 From: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com
 Date: February 23, 2009 2:09:45 AM GMT+01:00
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Subject: Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
 Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion  
 community@lists.openmoko.org


 GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes:
 it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I  
 advise
 you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you
 makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem

 That's a lie.

 You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader.

 Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a
 practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed
 for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo.

 Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the
 new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to
 hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all
 known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating.

Thanks Paul,
I'm trying to flash my GSM firmware and running into a problem.
I get to the point where I run the fluid command line and it just  
sits there.

Here are the steps I'm taking for doing the flashing. I'm following  
the docs on the wiki
at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing.

After I get the
Bootloader: (reset target)
message, I run s3c24xx-gpio b7=1 in another xterm, ssh'ed into the FR.

and the main window just sits there.

Here's the output of what I'm typing in the main window:
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
gsm.0/power_on
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
gsm.0/power_on
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 FLUID_FLOWCONTROL=h  
fluid.exe \
-oO -b 115200\
  -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0- 
moko10.m0
FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments,  
2001-2004.
Reading image file: '/home/root/ 
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok
Bootloader: (reset target)
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
gsm.0/power_on
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
gsm.0/power_on
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 FLUID_FLOWCONTROL=h  
fluid.exe -oo -b 57600 -f /home/root/gsm_
ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0
FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments,  
2001-2004.
Reading image file: '/home/root/ 
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok
Bootloader: (reset target)
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
gsm.0/power_on
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- 
gsm.0/power_on
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -b  
115200 -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_
ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0
FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments,  
2001-2004.
Reading image file: '/home/root/ 
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok
Bootloader: (reset target)

Help ?
How long should I wait for the Bootloader to respond to the s3c24xx- 
gpio b7=1 command ?
The documentation makes it sound like it should happen right away.

Thanks,
-Steve

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-23 Thread GNUtoo
 GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes:
 it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise
 you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you
 makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem

 That's a lie.
sorry that was not intentional...so we should change the wiki as there is
that:
Warning: there are chances to _completely_ brick your GSM modem on messing
around with FLUID! Please watch out for typos!
at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing


 You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader.

 Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a
 practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed
 for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo.

 Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the
 new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to
 hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all
 known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating.
thanks a lot...I think I'll upgrade

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-23 Thread Paul Fertser
GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes:
 GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes:
 it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise
 you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you
 makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem

 That's a lie.
 sorry that was not intentional...

I know, sorry if i was a bit too harsh.

so we should change the wiki as there is that: Warning: there are
chances to _completely_ brick your GSM modem on messing around with
FLUID! Please watch out for typos!  

Hm, this is almost correct. See messing around? It's not like
inaccurate typing is messing around. It takes some dedication to
really destroy calibration data. And watch out for typos is an
unrelated note. :) I agree it sounds a bit too scary (as one can imply
that typos are equivalent to messing around but it's not).

 thanks a lot...I think I'll upgrade

Feel free to ask at IRC in case you need any additional guidance.

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Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay
Greetings OM-heads,
I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here  
with me from the US.
I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but  
works in just every other phone I've put it in.

Can anybody recommend a Euro SIM/carrier that is known to work in a  
GTA02, preferably if you know it works in Italy.

Could this be an OS/distro problem? I'm running OM-2008-12 with  
Konfigurator.
Are there any command-line utilities I can use to get diagnostics or  
info on the SIM itself ?
The GUI simply says SIM missing or Not registered with no further  
details.

Thanks,
Steve


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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve  'dillo Okay wrote:
 Greetings OM-heads,
 I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here
 with me from the US.
 I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but
 works in just every other phone I've put it in.

I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and 
no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware.

It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old.

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Paul Fertser
Steve \ 'dillo\ Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com writes:
 Could this be an OS/distro problem? 

Could this be a never upgraded GSM Firmware problem?

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Federico Belvisi
Michele Renda ha scritto:
 On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve  'dillo Okay wrote:
 Greetings OM-heads,
 I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here
 with me from the US.
 I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but
 works in just every other phone I've put it in.

 I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and 
 no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware.
 
 It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old.

I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I tried
was when I bought my Freerunner back in august).
Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone Italy.

Maybe you have a 64K...

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
On 22/02/2009 17:07, Federico Belvisi wrote:
 I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I tried
 was when I bought my Freerunner back in august).
 Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone 
 Italy.

 Maybe you have a 64K...

I have a 64K, on the upper part there is written: 64.3

It is the first time I listened sim problem with FR in Italy.
I can tested with a Wind sim and was running too.

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Giovanni
I live in Italy.
I bought a new 128K Vodafone SIM about 3 months ago, but it didn't work with
the Freerunner.
Then I found an older 64K Vodafone SIM and it works well.



On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Federico Belvisi armal...@alice.it wrote:

 Michele Renda ha scritto:
  On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve  'dillo Okay wrote:
  Greetings OM-heads,
  I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here
  with me from the US.
  I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but
  works in just every other phone I've put it in.
 
  I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and
  no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware.
 
  It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old.

 I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last time I
 tried
 was when I bought my Freerunner back in august).
 Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot), Vodafone
 Italy.

 Maybe you have a 64K...

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Michele Renda
On 22/02/2009 17:26, Giovanni wrote:
 I live in Italy.
 I bought a new 128K Vodafone SIM about 3 months ago, but it didn't 
 work with the Freerunner.
 Then I found an older 64K Vodafone SIM and it works well.
May be is a Vodafone 128Kb sim related problem.

Someone of you tried to upgrade the Gsm firmware?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay

On Feb 22, 2009, at 17:21 , Michele Renda wrote:

 On 22/02/2009 17:07, Federico Belvisi wrote:
 I have a Vodafone sim 128K that isn't working (the first and last  
 time I tried
 was when I bought my Freerunner back in august).
 Till then, I put in the FR an old 64K (or 32K, maybe, I forgot),  
 Vodafone Italy.

 Maybe you have a 64K...

 I have a 64K, on the upper part there is written: 64.3

This is precisely what I have.
It is a 64K SIM, bought from a Vodafone shop in Trieste.
I installed it yesterday, it asked for me to enter the PIN, which I  
did, but ever since then
I simply get the single star for the GSM signal strength(I'm running  
Illume) and when I
go to the Dialer to make a call, I get a SIM missing  error(even  
though it's installed and locked into it's carrier).

I put it into a friend's  Nokia N95 and it works fine. I put his ATT  
SIM into my FR and it picked up the Wind network.
I also tried the Vodafone 64K SIM in a ZTE 125 and it registered with  
a Slovenian Voda tower (some interesting multipath going on there)
and was able to make calls/texts.

So I'm thinking it has to be something with my FR. I've been using it  
for almost a month now with a T-Mobile SIM and this is the first
time I've had a problem. I'll look at the GSM firmware flashing  
article on the Wiki.

I think I'm going to go get another SIM, like a Wind or TIM and see  
if that works.

Thanks
Steve

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay

On Feb 22, 2009, at 16:36 , Michele Renda wrote:

 On 22/02/2009 16:26, Steve  'dillo Okay wrote:
 Greetings OM-heads,
 I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here
 with me from the US.
 I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but
 works in just every other phone I've put it in.

 I don't know what can be the problem, I am using a Vodafone IT Sim and
 no problem. And I never upgraded the GSM firmware.

 It is a new sim? or an old one? My sim is 2-3 years old.

Well, it's certainly brand new as I just bought it from the shop  
yesterday.
I don't know when it was made though.
The card that the SIM and PIN scratcher are on has the markings:
SIM 64K 14.51
Verona1

I hope that helps,
Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread GNUtoo
 Greetings OM-heads,
 I'm currently in Trieste for a seminar and brought my Freerunner here
 with me from the US.
 I bought a Vodaphone SIM which doesn't seem to work in my GTA02, but
 works in just every other phone I've put it in.

 Can anybody recommend a Euro SIM/carrier that is known to work in a
 GTA02, preferably if you know it works in Italy.
My wind card works without the GSM modem firmware update.

 Could this be an OS/distro problem? I'm running OM-2008-12 with
 Konfigurator.
 Are there any command-line utilities I can use to get diagnostics or
 info on the SIM itself ?
 The GUI simply says SIM missing or Not registered with no further
 details.

 Thanks,
 Steve
it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise
you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you
makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-22 Thread Paul Fertser
GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes:
 it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise
 you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you
 makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem

That's a lie.

You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader.

Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a
practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed
for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo.

Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the
new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to
hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all
known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating.

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