Fwd: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-28 Thread Ortwin Regel

Don't forget that phones have vibrators. They could be used in cunning
ways with a relatively simple UI to provide feedback and thus
usability of touchscreens for even completely blind people.

On 3/27/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tuesday 27 March 2007 10:23:08 Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. wrote:
 There's so much to do for blind person and we can do it together so
 think guys and please provide some solutions and thoughts.

I would imagine that a touchscreen only phone is quite hard to use for blind
people as opposed to a phone with proper keys?

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Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-28 Thread Florent THIERY

I forgot mentioning pocketsphinx (voice recognition), which has an
openembedded port already

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Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-28 Thread Florent THIERY

Hi

I've been recently confronted to these questions for the tuxdroid
project (which i intend to run on a NAS/Home router).

About text-to-speech, eSpeak seems really interesting for embedded
devices, plus it's more or less the only 100% free sotfware of this
category (others, like festival / flite * for embedded *, are free,
but not their voice models..).

http://www2.tux-is-alive.com/wiki/Text-to-speech

As for in-app integration:
http://www.speechio.org/

About speech recognition, i'd say that it's today very hard if not
impossible to get a working dication feature. The best option may be
to skip it, and concentrate on command launching: more basic
pattern-based recognition.

A great option (if we manage to make it run) is CVoiceControl, but it
needs maintainers: the project is down.

http://www.kiecza.net/daniel/linux/

See http://www2.tux-is-alive.com/wiki/Speech_recognition for our
preliminary evaluations and resources/links

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Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-27 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd.

Hi.
I thought about voice synthesizer software to build in OpenMoko for 
blind person. I know some blind people and currently they can only use 
Nokia with Symbian and proper software. Does anyone have any experience 
with voice synthesizer soft and can provide some info whether it can be 
implemented on OpenMoko platform?
There's so much to do for blind person and we can do it together so 
think guys and please provide some solutions and thoughts.


Best regards,
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*Bartlomiej Zdanowski*
Programmer
Product Research  Development Department
AutoGuard  Insurance Ltd.

Omulewska 27 street
04-128 Warsaw
Poland
phone +48 22 611 69 23
www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl
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Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-27 Thread Arthur Marsh

Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. wrote, On 27/03/07 17:53:

Hi.
I thought about voice synthesizer software to build in OpenMoko for 
blind person. I know some blind people and currently they can only use 
Nokia with Symbian and proper software. Does anyone have any experience 
with voice synthesizer soft and can provide some info whether it can be 
implemented on OpenMoko platform?
There's so much to do for blind person and we can do it together so 
think guys and please provide some solutions and thoughts.


Hi, a person I used to work for had a package called Mobile 
Accessibility on a Nokia (symbian os) handset.


The drawbacks included not being entirely stable, being expensive, the 
copy protection that meant it couldn't be moved from handset to handset 
without getting a new activation code from the supplier, and the lack of 
ability to customise things.


A large, high contrast display would help many vision impaired people, 
and a well-thought out spoken menu system with speech synthesis would 
help many low vision and completely blind people. The FIC 1973 does have 
the drawback of there being no tactile feedback for input via the 
screen. Does the hardware support the touch screen working if it were 
covered with a clear plastic screen with a raised grid pattern on it?


Regards,

Arthur.


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Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-27 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd.

Arthur Marsh napisaƂ(a):
A large, high contrast display would help many vision impaired people, 
and a well-thought out spoken menu system with speech synthesis would 
help many low vision and completely blind people. The FIC 1973 does 
have the drawback of there being no tactile feedback for input via the 
screen. Does the hardware support the touch screen working if it were 
covered with a clear plastic screen with a raised grid pattern on it?
Right I forgot about tactile display but plastic keys should be great. I 
think it should work because all PDA point-sticks work great. Touch-keys 
don't have to be clear... because blind person don't care about it, 
remember.


Regards
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Programmer
Product Research  Development Department
AutoGuard  Insurance Ltd.

Omulewska 27 street
04-128 Warsaw
Poland
phone +48 22 611 69 23
www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl
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Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-27 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[snip]
 Right I forgot about tactile display but plastic keys should be great. I 
 think it should work because all PDA point-sticks work great. Touch-keys 
 don't have to be clear... because blind person don't care about it, 
 remember.

But not all of their friends are blind.  Making a phone unusable by a sighted
person is as bad as making it unusable for a blind person.  At least for POTS
usage.  IMHO, anyone who has used a cellphone before should be able to pick up
an unfamiliar phone and answer a call and/or make a call a manually entered
number.

Ideally this would extend to deaf people too.  However, I don't think texting
UI is as standardized as voice  hard/soft keys UI.

Just my $0.02USD,
  Jeffrey

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Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-27 Thread adrian cockcroft

There are a lot of people who can't read the tiny fonts on their phone
screen. I'm particularly interested in making a UI variant that is
optimized for people with failing eyesight, but not completely blind.
I have a friend with macular degeneration who wants me to make a phone
she can use, and many older people just get long sighted and want a
simple UI they can actually read.

For completely blind people we could make a voice driven UI using
VoiceXML to specify the flows. I work alongside someone who has done
VXML work using Tellme's backend service. I'm not sure if there are
implementations we could use on the phone itself.

Adrian

On 3/27/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tuesday 27 March 2007 10:23:08 Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. wrote:
 There's so much to do for blind person and we can do it together so
 think guys and please provide some solutions and thoughts.

I would imagine that a touchscreen only phone is quite hard to use for blind
people as opposed to a phone with proper keys?

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Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-27 Thread Bradley Hook
I work at the Kansas School for the Blind. Portable computing devices
for the visually impaired are extremely expensive, so seeing an
affordable OpenMoko device that is blind-friendly would be great.

Personally, I am interested in OpenMoko because I think using a phone
for remote administration of my Linux servers would be convenient. But,
I'd be more than interested in connecting developers with the experts I
know in the field of disability accommodations.

As for making touch-screen devices accessible, take a look at the
Maestro, which has a clip-on cover for Dell Axim PocketPCs. You can
see a picture of the device at
http://www.humanware.ca/web/en/p_DA_Maestro.asp#content

A similar clip-on device would be ideal in the case of OpenMoko.
Obviously, if the UI were designed with such a cover in mind, then
implementation of the cover device would be much easier.

~Bradley

adrian cockcroft wrote:
 There are a lot of people who can't read the tiny fonts on their phone
 screen. I'm particularly interested in making a UI variant that is
 optimized for people with failing eyesight, but not completely blind.
 I have a friend with macular degeneration who wants me to make a phone
 she can use, and many older people just get long sighted and want a
 simple UI they can actually read.
 
 For completely blind people we could make a voice driven UI using
 VoiceXML to specify the flows. I work alongside someone who has done
 VXML work using Tellme's backend service. I'm not sure if there are
 implementations we could use on the phone itself.
 
 Adrian
 
 On 3/27/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 27 March 2007 10:23:08 Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd.
 wrote:
  There's so much to do for blind person and we can do it together so
  think guys and please provide some solutions and thoughts.

 I would imagine that a touchscreen only phone is quite hard to use for
 blind
 people as opposed to a phone with proper keys?

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Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-27 Thread Gilles Casse
Hello,

I will be also glad to focus on such a project. 

As a note, a talking mobile, offering eyes-free applications can
probably interest visually impaired or sighted persons. 

Today, the Linux desktop offers several alternatives for speech enabling
applications. For example:
* Speakup, Yasr, Emacspeak in text-based mode.
* The Gnome Accessibility Project, particularly, the Orca and LSR screen
readers, distinct Accessibility APIs. 

Does some of these concepts may benefit to a mobile with native GTK+
based applications?

I guess that firstly an evaluation is needed to measure its
feasibility.  
The Speakup and Gnome Accessibility lists have been informed of this
thread.

For info, eSpeak is a GPL voice synthesizer: http://espeak.sf.net
Some features:
- multi languages,
- small footprint,
- runs on Intel or ARM platforms.

Today it works with Orca, Speakup (via Speech-Dispatcher), Emacspeak and
more. eSpeak will be the default voice synthesizer in Ubuntu Feisty. 

Gilles


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Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person

2007-03-27 Thread Robin Paulson

as coincidence would have it BBC Radio 4 had a piece today about
mobile phones for the blind, and the consesus was that a talking phone
would drive a partially sighted user mad within a few minutes.

to listen to it all (free):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/intouch.ram

should be available for 7 days


On 3/28/07, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I will be also glad to focus on such a project.

As a note, a talking mobile, offering eyes-free applications can
probably interest visually impaired or sighted persons.


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