Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
Well, he is not from China and he is in Brazil. He will not work on any software stuff but HW. He is working on a new case for the Freerunner though. Those who have writen with ideas for a different case might want to send him an email.His name is Abel Chang. an this is his email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But hell yeah! some of them have landed! Cheers! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Andy Selby escribi: There was a post on engadget mobile that suggested some have been released. I cant find it, you got a link? On Sunday 15 June 2008 00:03, steve wrote: I'm not exactly sure. I havent asked if they have a continous process or if they build a bunch of PCB and then assemble. Like, build a thousand, assemble a thousand, etc. I know some shipments (university customers) have already landed. Could you explain what you meant by that last sentence? In the neofreerunner thread on the device owners list a guy from china explains that he bought one for a university project, there are pics of it as well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
On Sunday 15 June 2008 00:03, steve wrote: I'm not exactly sure. I havent asked if they have a continous process or if they build a bunch of PCB and then assemble. Like, build a thousand, assemble a thousand, etc. I know some shipments (university customers) have already landed. Could you explain what you meant by that last sentence? -- Andy / ScaredyCat pgpREuhsvtgh9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
There was a post on engadget mobile that suggested some have been released. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Powell Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:26 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko? On Sunday 15 June 2008 00:03, steve wrote: I'm not exactly sure. I havent asked if they have a continous process or if they build a bunch of PCB and then assemble. Like, build a thousand, assemble a thousand, etc. I know some shipments (university customers) have already landed. Could you explain what you meant by that last sentence? -- Andy / ScaredyCat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
There was a post on engadget mobile that suggested some have been released. I cant find it, you got a link? On Sunday 15 June 2008 00:03, steve wrote: I'm not exactly sure. I havent asked if they have a continous process or if they build a bunch of PCB and then assemble. Like, build a thousand, assemble a thousand, etc. I know some shipments (university customers) have already landed. Could you explain what you meant by that last sentence? In the neofreerunner thread on the device owners list a guy from china explains that he bought one for a university project, there are pics of it as well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
Andy Selby wrote: There was a post on engadget mobile that suggested some have been released. I cant find it, you got a link? Steve mentioned this in an Email the other day: I know some shipments (university customers) have already landed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Andy Selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a post on engadget mobile that suggested some have been released. I cant find it, you got a link? http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/06/11/openmoko-freerunner-gets-reviewed-early/ I didn't get this as part of a university release though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
On openomoko wiki pages it is written that price will be around 399 dollars, so this means that in europe will be around 260 euros or they will do "the same" like some other companies do (sell something for example for 400 dollars in US and for 400 euros in EU)? steve pravi: SMT is running. This means printed circuit boards are being produced daily. Then, the circuit boards are being assembled into phones. This means the plastic casing is being mounted As well as other bits and pieces. Then the phones are tested. Then they are packed and shipped. So figure, assembly is going to start in the week of june 16, pack and ship by june 23 Arrive and clear customs by july 1. Hey 4th of july sale! Sorry american bias. But I'd figure early july. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven Kurylo Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:48 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko? Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date when ordinary people could buy this phone? No one has any idea. Personally I'm expecting mid July. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
Hi, I am a OMmer but I can help you because I studied a bit the cost to sell the OM in Europe. 399 $ is the price of FR in US. We can image that EU reseller can buy FR in 10 pack, so 369 $ for unit (I don't know how much tehy pay, It is a supposition done to help calc) 369 $ = 240 Euro To this ammount you must to add expedition from US to EU: 160 $ / 10 = 16$ = 10 Euro To this ammount you must add Environmental tax + Dougane ( that replace TVA - 20%?) = 50 Euro (I considered only tva) With all this we arrive to 300 euro. Then there is to add Warranty that in Italy (and I think is Europe) that is mandatory for 2 years and the margin for the reseller. Pulster say that is able to sell FR at 299 Euro. I think they are magician! In every case I think is a good price. Rok Jaklič wrote: On openomoko wiki pages it is written that price will be around 399 dollars, so this means that in europe will be around 260 euros or they will do the same like some other companies do (sell something for example for 400 dollars in US and for 400 euros in EU)? steve pravi: SMT is running. This means printed circuit boards are being produced daily. Then, the circuit boards are being assembled into phones. This means the plastic casing is being mounted As well as other bits and pieces. Then the phones are tested. Then they are packed and shipped. So figure, assembly is going to start in the week of june 16, pack and ship by june 23 Arrive and clear customs by july 1. Hey 4th of july sale! Sorry american bias. But I'd figure early july. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Kurylo Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:48 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko? Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date when ordinary people could buy this phone? No one has any idea. Personally I'm expecting mid July. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
On 2008-06-15 10:57:22 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: I am a OMmer but I can help you because I studied a bit the cost to sell the OM in Europe. 399 $ is the price of FR in US. We can image that EU reseller can buy FR in 10 pack, so 369 $ for unit (I don't know how much tehy pay, It is a supposition done to help calc) 369 $ = 240 Euro Note that this amount contains the cost of shipping to the US, US customs, and the margin for the US seller. [extra costs are more than 60 Euro] Pulster say that is able to sell FR at 299 Euro. I think they are magician! I imagine that Pulster won't import 10-packs from the US. They will probably order larger quantities directly in China, so instead of paying for shipping to the US, paying US customs, then shipping to Europe and paying European customs, they only have to pay for shipping to Europe and pay European customs. So that makes it quite a bit cheaper already. And the bigger quantities should help too. Even if they import from the US, I'm sure they get a much better price for 100 10-packs than we get for a single 10-pack. In every case I think is a good price. Yep. hp -- _ | Peter J. Holzer| It took a genius to create [TeX], |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | and it takes a genius to maintain it. | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | That's not engineering, that's art. __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ |-- David Kastrup in comp.text.tex signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
I'm pretty sure that OM grants the resellers a rebate that's a 2 digit percentage over the 10-pack rebate. So let's see what the resellers can do. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a OMmer but I can help you because I studied a bit the cost to sell the OM in Europe. 399 $ is the price of FR in US. We can image that EU reseller can buy FR in 10 pack, so 369 $ for unit (I don't know how much tehy pay, It is a supposition done to help calc) 369 $ = 240 Euro To this ammount you must to add expedition from US to EU: 160 $ / 10 = 16$ = 10 Euro To this ammount you must add Environmental tax + Dougane ( that replace TVA - 20%?) = 50 Euro (I considered only tva) With all this we arrive to 300 euro. Then there is to add Warranty that in Italy (and I think is Europe) that is mandatory for 2 years and the margin for the reseller. Pulster say that is able to sell FR at 299 Euro. I think they are magician! In every case I think is a good price. Rok Jaklič wrote: On openomoko wiki pages it is written that price will be around 399 dollars, so this means that in europe will be around 260 euros or they will do the same like some other companies do (sell something for example for 400 dollars in US and for 400 euros in EU)? steve pravi: SMT is running. This means printed circuit boards are being produced daily. Then, the circuit boards are being assembled into phones. This means the plastic casing is being mounted As well as other bits and pieces. Then the phones are tested. Then they are packed and shipped. So figure, assembly is going to start in the week of june 16, pack and ship by june 23 Arrive and clear customs by july 1. Hey 4th of july sale! Sorry american bias. But I'd figure early july. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Kurylo Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:48 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko? Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date when ordinary people could buy this phone? No one has any idea. Personally I'm expecting mid July. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
Hi. I am sorry to be just one of the other 2 billion people who want to buy this phone, but since I have to buy new phone, time is a pretty hard limit for me. Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date when ordinary people could buy this phone? Kind regards, Rok ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date when ordinary people could buy this phone? No one has any idea. Personally I'm expecting mid July. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb Rok Jaklič: Hi. I am sorry to be just one of the other 2 billion people who want to buy this phone, but since I have to buy new phone, time is a pretty hard limit for me. Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date when ordinary people could buy this phone? In German OM-Forum freeyourphone.de I read, [quote] www.truebox.co.uk hat geschrieben: We will be ready to ship Freerunner kits, to those of you who expressed an interest to buy before 6th June, on the 1st July (UK postage willing, in your hand next day). We will be emailing you more details soon. We may have others to ship on 1st July if you let us know you want one now. [/quote] No idea how they estimated this date. /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
SMT is running. This means printed circuit boards are being produced daily. Then, the circuit boards are being assembled into phones. This means the plastic casing is being mounted As well as other bits and pieces. Then the phones are tested. Then they are packed and shipped. So figure, assembly is going to start in the week of june 16, pack and ship by june 23 Arrive and clear customs by july 1. Hey 4th of july sale! Sorry american bias. But I'd figure early july. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Kurylo Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:48 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko? Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date when ordinary people could buy this phone? No one has any idea. Personally I'm expecting mid July. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
Just out of curiosity, Steve, how long does it take to assemble a phone from start to finish? (just assembly, not testing) steve wrote: SMT is running. This means printed circuit boards are being produced daily. Then, the circuit boards are being assembled into phones. This means the plastic casing is being mounted As well as other bits and pieces. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?
I'm not exactly sure. I havent asked if they have a continous process or if they build a bunch of PCB and then assemble. Like, build a thousand, assemble a thousand, etc. I know some shipments (university customers) have already landed. In terms of actual assembly time per unit, I'm marketing, don't ask me hard questions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ian douglas Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:13 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko? Just out of curiosity, Steve, how long does it take to assemble a phone from start to finish? (just assembly, not testing) steve wrote: SMT is running. This means printed circuit boards are being produced daily. Then, the circuit boards are being assembled into phones. This means the plastic casing is being mounted As well as other bits and pieces. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
