[QTmoko debian] How to change display brightness / sound volume from command line
Hi is there anything similiar to the fso commands to set the display brightness in qtmoko v36? I would like to extend my navit xml by a button to automatically dim to 10% (first click) and back to 90% (second click). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
navit / making announcement not execute a command line call as well
Maybe someone from the openmoko list is using navit and has an idea if one can make the announcement tag not only announce the the next direction to turn to but also to execute a command as well. My idea would be to have navit fully dimmed if one is travelling on the correct path. Once a there are crossings and directions are announced the display will change brightness via a fso call. once travelling on the right track again the display should be dimmed again. anyone has any idea? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTmoko debian] How to change display brightness / sound volume from command line
robin spielr...@web.de writes: is there anything similiar to the fso commands to set the display brightness in om backlight brightness 10 sets it to 10% ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: navit / making announcement not execute a command line call as well
Hi Robin, I have something like this in my navit.xml: speech type=cmdline data=/home/navit/scripts/say_it.sh '%s'/ and /home/navit/scripts/say_it.sh is a script that does some post processing for speech, but you can make it do anything i guess. The %s is passed on to the script as command line parameters, so you could first handle $* in the script and then dim/brighten the screen. Kind regards, Ed On 11/13/2011 07:32 PM, robin wrote: Maybe someone from the openmoko list is using navit and has an idea if one can make the announcement tag not only announce the the next direction to turn to but also to execute a command as well. My idea would be to have navit fully dimmed if one is travelling on the correct path. Once a there are crossings and directions are announced the display will change brightness via a fso call. once travelling on the right track again the display should be dimmed again. anyone has any idea? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ffalarms custom command
i have been using ffalarms daily and really like it. thanks for it! have one feature request - in reality, it makes a really great atd frontend :), would it be possible to implement a feature to choose whether alarm should be sound or not and also to run custom command? As all the other structure is there and it makes little sense to start a second project with very similar aim, this could nicely provide a way to auto turn off our freerunner in the evening and do wake in the morning... as well as run and manage automated events... cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ffalarms custom command
Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz writes: i have been using ffalarms daily and really like it. thanks for it! have one feature request - in reality, it makes a really great atd frontend :), would it be possible to implement a feature to choose whether alarm should be sound or not and also to run custom command? As all the other structure is there and it makes little sense to start a second project with very similar aim, this could nicely provide a way to auto turn off our freerunner in the evening and do wake in the morning... as well as run and manage automated events... Hi, In a sense it is already there: you can put any command as a player in a config file. BUT: at the moment you can declare only single player and so there is no GUI way to select between them which I think you suggest? But then to modes would be possible: an alarm (with the snooze/ack gui) and the background command (possibly with an output to some logfile and/or gui message if command fails). At the moment I put quite low priority to ffalarms compared to the real/rest-of life, so I can not give any promise when I could implement this feature though I could find it useful myself to change phone profile to silent/vibrate for some regular events. cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Triggering Literki from command line?
On 16 April 2010 05:10, Alex Teiche xelap...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, is there a way to make literki pop up from the command line? I want it to happen from within a shell script. Hackable:1 does it somehow, but I can't figure it out from the source code. literki But is that what you meant? Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Triggering Literki from command line?
2010/4/16, Alex Teiche xelap...@gmail.com: Hey everyone, is there a way to make literki pop up from the command line? I want it to happen from within a shell script. Hackable:1 does it somehow, but I can't figure it out from the source code. Thanks! Sorry, it's not possible. It shouldn't be hard to implement, but I'm traveling for another couple of months so can't help you. If you feel like hacking literki, the best way to do it is by sending an X event I think. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Triggering Literki from command line?
2010/4/16 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: literki But is that what you meant? He certainly meant unhiding the keyboard of already running literki process. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Triggering Literki from command line?
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 07:43:09PM +0300, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2010/4/16 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: literki But is that what you meant? He certainly meant unhiding the keyboard of already running literki process. In this case I'm sure xwit can do it. It allows access to many basic X functions, see xwit(1). Jens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Triggering Literki from command line?
Hey everyone, is there a way to make literki pop up from the command line? I want it to happen from within a shell script. Hackable:1 does it somehow, but I can't figure it out from the source code. Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u 20100306] new power key command action params
last night i just re-flashed to shr-u 20100306. after the reflash i was playing around in illum2 and remapped some keys. i have now lost the power key command action parameter and would like to know what the default command should be. pressing restore defaults in the enlightenment key bindings is of no help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr] terminal command for keyboard setting
hello list. for many months ive been using literki as my keyboard. in order to get the maximum benifite out of it i disabled the elementary keyboard. trouble is that blasted elementary error on full screen. there are only one of two of my packages that generate this error, so that got me thinking is there a way to set the none keyboard via a terminal command? that way i can just make the desktop icon read a script file that enables the keyboard for what ever packages crash the most. - jeremy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] terminal command for keyboard setting
Am Samstag 24 Oktober 2009 schrieb jeremy jozwik: hello list. for many months ive been using literki as my keyboard. in order to get the maximum benifite out of it i disabled the elementary keyboard. trouble is that blasted elementary error on full screen. there are only one of two of my packages that generate this error, so that got me thinking is there a way to set the none keyboard via a terminal command? I prefer literki, too. But I went back to qwo instead. Reason is: Even if I tried to exchange the illume keyboard with a dummy skript, the enlightenment error occured as if you chose none as keyboard. The only thing you can do, seems to be waiting for a fix in enlightenment. -- Lars Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology: There's always one more bug. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] terminal command for keyboard setting
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Lars Hennig n...@el-hennig.de wrote: I prefer literki, too. But I went back to qwo instead. Reason is: Even if I tried to exchange the illume keyboard with a dummy skript, the enlightenment error occured as if you chose none as keyboard. The only thing you can do, seems to be waiting for a fix in enlightenment. sorry, i may have made that not clear enough. for general usage the enlightenment keyboard would be set to none. then if i run... lets say FFalarms it would enable the enlightenment board so it does not die when i go to clock mode. generally i set my alarm right before i go to bed. and often times im not 100% when i set it so i forget to enable the keyboard. click the clock and BAM... wait for the phone to restart ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] terminal command for keyboard setting
2009/10/24 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Lars Hennig n...@el-hennig.de wrote: I prefer literki, too. But I went back to qwo instead. Reason is: Even if I tried to exchange the illume keyboard with a dummy skript, the enlightenment error occured as if you chose none as keyboard. The only thing you can do, seems to be waiting for a fix in enlightenment. sorry, i may have made that not clear enough. for general usage the enlightenment keyboard would be set to none. then if i run... lets say FFalarms it would enable the enlightenment board so it does not die when i go to clock mode. generally i set my alarm right before i go to bed. and often times im not 100% when i set it so i forget to enable the keyboard. click the clock and BAM... wait for the phone to restart One solution that I found satisfactory was getting rid of enlightenment and using a different WM. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using gps from command line
On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 20:13 +0200, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
So anybody can show me a working code using the gps through frameworkd?
Like this?
import dbus
import time
bus = dbus.SystemBus()
usage = bus.get_object('org.freesmartphone.ousaged',
'/org/freesmartphone/Usage')
gps = bus.get_object('org.freedesktop.Gypsy', '/org/freedesktop/Gypsy')
gps_device = dbus.Interface(gps, 'org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Device')
gps_position = dbus.Interface(gps, 'org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position')
print usage.GetResourcePolicy('GPS')
print usage.GetResourceState('GPS')
usage.RequestResource('GPS')
print usage.GetResourceState('GPS')
t = time.time()
while True:
print 'Connection:', gps_device.GetConnectionStatus()
print 'Fix:', gps_device.GetFixStatus()
print 'Position:', gps_position.GetPosition()
time.sleep(2)
if time.time() - t 10:
break
usage.ReleaseResource('GPS')
print usage.GetResourceState('GPS')
David
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Using gps from command line
Hi! I tried to follow a gps tutorial on my freeerunner using om2009.t5: http://totalueberwachung.de/blog/2008/10/14/fso-tutorial-part-1-gps cli-framework usageiface.RequestResource(GPS) gpsposition.GetPosition() And it only returns with (0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0). I thought it is because it didnt get a fix, but it is the same after a half an hour. So anybody can show me a working code using the gps through frameworkd? Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: at command
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 02:37:22PM -0700, Test wrote: I am playing w/ some AT commands. If you know what are these AT commands for? let me know, and also how to use them? AT+CLVL is documented in the 3GPP 07.07 and 27.007 specs which you can find here: http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/html-info/0707.htm http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/html-info/27007.htm -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
at command
I am playing w/ some AT commands. If you know what are these AT commands for? let me know, and also how to use them? at+frq at+clvl at+fpw thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: at command
Test wrote: I am playing w/ some AT commands. If you know what are these AT commands for? let me know, and also how to use them? at+frq at+clvl at+fpw thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community google at modem command set ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: at command
Test wrote: I am playing w/ some AT commands. If you know what are these AT commands for? let me know, and also how to use them? AT+CLVL sets the audio output volume from the Calypso (see for example http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2121). I don't know about the others but one of the references linked from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands might have some information. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:40:19 +0200, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: rhn ha scritto: This program was started before Yaouh! was published. Initially, it only downloaded the empty tiles, so I called it fill_gaps.py. For a long time, I felt it's sufficient, so I didn't change it. Recently, I decided that I need something smarter - I tried out Yaouh!, which didn't have some of the funcionaltiy I wanted. The code was a bit messy, too. which funcionality do you want on yaouh? :) The features I listed in the original post... Falling back to other mirrors when a file can't be downloaded, removing old files and command-line operation. I think merging both programs would be the best. I'd do it myself, but I couldn't find my way through the code... -- Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
Personally I'd like to be able to dump tangogps (or similar that uses png tiles) and use something that's able to render the map from vector data. Roadmap ? (available on maemo, not tried on openmoko yet) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
rhn wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:45:28 +0200, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. I use the program in exactly the same way. Skipping files is not for sake of less transfer, but for less time spent on contacting remote servers (that's the same reason why I believe deleting files long unused is necessary). As of now, skipping files one day old is completely sufficient for me. Unless you do many updates every day and the tile server gets updated quicker than in my area. The value should be adjustable (including 0) in my opinion. Sometimes yaouh crash (or the phone crash.) When restarting the download, avoiding checking the same stuff again would be nice. Skipping the most recent files will do that - another way is to have the app record how far it gets and restart from the same place. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? The current version treats the empty files (size 0) left by tangoGPS as ones needed to download by force, that is, not checking for the server modification date. For example download every tile that has 2 (or 3 or four) neighbors downloaded to 'fill the gaps' in the map. That's an interesting idea... unfortunately, the program would need to be rewritten because it uses recursive traversal of dictionaries now (and I think Yaouh! does so, too). Yaouh recurses through the directories, but python lets you control the order. You can have the top level first or the bottom level first. Ah, excellent! It'd also be nice to have an option for automatically zooming out. That is, if I have a bunch of tiles at zoom 15 (downloaded using tangogps perhaps) then I want the zoom 14 tiles covering the same area, as well as the zoom 13 tiles, and so on all the way up to the top. Of course, the number of tiles quickly gets lower as one goes up, and usually hits a tile that is there already after a few levels. I think this will be the next thing I implement when I get some free time. I'm looking forward to that. :-) Another thing that'd be nice to have, is duplicate tile detection. There are a lot of sea tiles, empty land tiles, and probably some tiles containing only forest or similiar. This could save lots of space, but not download time. It'd still be necessary to check if empty land suddenly isn't empty anymore. Is it really that good? Thousands of tiles wold be necessary to make any real difference, even if the internal storage of a Freerunner is used. I have about 60.000 tiles. The blank tile has size 103. I assume that any tile with actual detail won't compress so well. There are 28.000 such tiles, almost half of them. On ext3, they actually use 4096 byte each, as they have to use whole blocks. That's 109MB saved from a total of 316MB. A reiserfs system with tail packing might get closer to the 2.75MB actually needed. A few megabytes saved when a few hundred is laying there isn't worth the trouble. Imagine storing modify dates for each sea tile independently when they are all symlinked to the same file (if you want to use the skipping functionality mentioned above to save time). ls -l shows me different timestamps for a file and for the symlink pointing to it. The symlink timestamp seems to be the creation time for the link. The file timestamp is updated when the file is updated, no matter what link is used to update it. So symlinks can indeed be used. When you check a symlink and find that the file has changed - break the link and download the now unique file. (In theory, it might match another existing file, e.g. when empty land turns into empty forest.) When the file isn't changed, just delete the link and recreate it, in order to force a new link timestamp. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Command-line Yaouh! clone
This program was started before Yaouh! was published. Initially, it only
downloaded the empty tiles, so I called it fill_gaps.py. For a long time, I
felt it's sufficient, so I didn't change it. Recently, I decided that I
need something smarter - I tried out Yaouh!, which didn't have some of the
funcionaltiy I wanted. The code was a bit messy, too.
I improved my program instead.
Now it includes:
* lists of fallback URLs,
* If-Modified-Since HTTP headers,
* removal of files unused for a specified time
* skipping files modified recently
* forcing download empty tiles
* customizing the fallback rules (currently, the fallback lists are
different for diffferent zoom levels)
It doesn't:
* take any command-line parameters
* have a GUI
* check md5 (it's not really needed with If-Modified-Since
* download in multiple threads
It's written in Python, so it could be used to improve Yaouh!. It requires
urllib for downloading, which might not be installed by default in some
distributions.
--
Cheers,
rhn#!/usr/bin/env python
import os
import os.path
import sys
#sys.path.pop(0)
import urllib2
import time
first_uri = 'http://b.andy.sandbox.cloudmade.com/tiles/cycle/%d/%d/%d.png'
#path = 'http://127.0.0.1:/tiles/cycle/%d/%d/%d.png'
fallback_uri = 'http://c.tile.openstreetmap.org/%d/%d/%d.png'
fallback_uri = 'http://c.tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile/%d/%d/%d.png'
age_threshold = 60 * 60 * 24
delete_threshold = 60 * 60 * 24 * 30
lowzoom = [first_uri, fallback_uri]
highzoom = [fallback_uri, fallback_uri]
class InvalidPathException(Exception):
pass
def get_file(full_path, url, force=False):
if force:
hdrs = {}
else:
hdrs = {'If-Modified-Since': time.strftime(%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT, time.gmtime(os.stat(full_path)[-2]))}
request = urllib2.Request(url, headers=hdrs)
o = urllib2.urlopen(request)
a = o.read()
if len(a) == 0:
raise Exception('Downloaded empty file.')
outp = open(full_path, 'w')
outp.write(a)
outp.close()
def download(file_path, uri_list, params, force=False):
a, b, c = params
stats = os.stat(file_path)
for uri in uri_list:
try:
get_file(file_path, uri % (a, b, c), force)
os.utime(file_path, (stats.st_atime, time.time())) # is this needed?
return
except urllib2.HTTPError, e:
if e.code == 304:
os.utime(file_path, (stats.st_atime, time.time()))
print 'Up to date'
return
print e, 'falling back'
except Exception, e:
print e, 'falling back'
for dir_, subdirs, files in os.walk('.'):
for file_ in files:
file_path = os.path.join(dir_, file_)
try:
root, a, b, c = file_path[:-4].split('/') #TOSO: change to sys.path
a, b, c = int(a), int(b), int(c)
except:
print file_path, 'omitted'
continue
if a 14:
uris = highzoom
else:
uris = lowzoom
stats = os.stat(file_path)
if time.time() - stats.st_atime delete_threshold:
print 'DELETE', file_path
os.unlink(file_path)
elif stats.st_size == 0:
print 'NULL', file_path
download(file_path, uris, (a, b, c), True)
elif time.time() - stats.st_mtime age_threshold:
print 'FULL', file_path
download(file_path, uris, (a, b, c), False)
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Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
rhn ha scritto: This program was started before Yaouh! was published. Initially, it only downloaded the empty tiles, so I called it fill_gaps.py. For a long time, I felt it's sufficient, so I didn't change it. Recently, I decided that I need something smarter - I tried out Yaouh!, which didn't have some of the funcionaltiy I wanted. The code was a bit messy, too. which funcionality do you want on yaouh? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: which funcionality do you want on yaouh? :) These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently * forcing download empty tiles Does someone actally know how much load it creates on (new :) OSM servers to update X mb of tiles with y% to be updated? Are there still ways to decrease this? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: which funcionality do you want on yaouh? :) These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? Does someone actally know how much load it creates on (new :) OSM servers to update X mb of tiles with y% to be updated? Are there still ways to decrease this? A tile tends to be 10-30kB. Perhaps 20kB on average? A header check is about 100 byte. So X MB of tiles is about 1000X/20=50X tiles. All 50X tiles get checked, so 50X*100 byte is about 5X kB. Of these 50X tiles, y% gets updated, and is on average 20kB. so, 50X*y/100*20kB = 10Xy kB. So with these numbers, you get 5X+10Xy kB or (5+10y)X kB to transfer. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. yep, of course optional and as you said, an addition to be able to download only tiles updated less than D days would be nice, too, I guess.. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? For example download every tile that has 2 (or 3 or four) neighbors downloaded to 'fill the gaps' in the map. Does someone actally know how much load it creates on (new :) OSM servers to update X mb of tiles with y% to be updated? Are there still ways to decrease this? So with these numbers, you get 5X+10Xy kB or (5+10y)X kB to transfer. So 300MB of tiles with 30% updated it would generate (5+10*30)*300 kB = 89MB or so.. ok.. I wonder if it's ok for OSM people if people start doing it like this a lot more than they now do. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. yep, of course optional and as you said, an addition to be able to download only tiles updated less than D days would be nice, too, I guess.. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? For example download every tile that has 2 (or 3 or four) neighbors downloaded to 'fill the gaps' in the map. Ah, excellent! It'd also be nice to have an option for automatically zooming out. That is, if I have a bunch of tiles at zoom 15 (downloaded using tangogps perhaps) then I want the zoom 14 tiles covering the same area, as well as the zoom 13 tiles, and so on all the way up to the top. Of course, the number of tiles quickly gets lower as one goes up, and usually hits a tile that is there already after a few levels. Does someone actally know how much load it creates on (new :) OSM servers to update X mb of tiles with y% to be updated? Are there still ways to decrease this? So with these numbers, you get 5X+10Xy kB or (5+10y)X kB to transfer. So 300MB of tiles with 30% updated it would generate (5+10*30)*300 kB = 89MB or so.. ok.. I wonder if it's ok for OSM people if people start doing it like this a lot more than they now do. If people start doing this a lot, then transparent proxies at the various ISPs will take much of the load. :-) Another thing that'd be nice to have, is duplicate tile detection. There are a lot of sea tiles, empty land tiles, and probably some tiles containing only forest or similiar. This could save lots of space, but not download time. It'd still be necessary to check if empty land suddenly isn't empty anymore. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : So 300MB of tiles with 30% updated it would generate (5+10*30)*300 kB = 89MB or so.. ok.. I wonder if it's ok for OSM people if people start doing it like this a lot more than they now do. This has already been discussed in OpenstreetMap Talk-fr. A guy from bearstech (Rodolphe Quideville) made a mirror for France and some cities, here : http://prosper.bearstech.com/~rodo/osm/tar/ I suggest you to ask him for adding the cities/countries you need (give him x_min x_max... as in info*.php). -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Yoann ARNAUD yarn...@crans.org wrote: Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : So 300MB of tiles with 30% updated it would generate (5+10*30)*300 kB = 89MB or so.. ok.. I wonder if it's ok for OSM people if people start doing it like this a lot more than they now do. This has already been discussed in OpenstreetMap Talk-fr. A guy from bearstech (Rodolphe Quideville) made a mirror for France and some cities, here : http://prosper.bearstech.com/~rodo/osm/tar/http://prosper.bearstech.com/%7Erodo/osm/tar/ I suggest you to ask him for adding the cities/countries you need (give him x_min x_max... as in info*.php). This is something OSM should get into. I would like to get all the kinds of things Cloudmade offer (navit? osm/xml?) for all of Australia but only for my city. Does OSM currently have a way of working out the boundary-box of a city? If not, I'd certainly help make boxes if there was a web interface for sending them in. Either way, someone (OSM? Openmoko community?) could automatically offer zip/tar/tbz files of all the tiles needed in the correct TangoGPS structure. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
It'd also be nice to have an option for automatically zooming out. That is, if I have a bunch of tiles at zoom 15 (downloaded using tangogps perhaps) then I want the zoom 14 tiles covering the same area, as well as the zoom 13 tiles, and so on all the way up to the top. Of course, the number of tiles quickly gets lower as one goes up, and usually hits a tile that is there already after a few levels. Yes, that would be welcome. Actually, more to the point TangoGPS's download the view + 4 levels down should also download the all levels above (after all, downloading levels N and above only take 33% more timespace than downloading level N). If people start doing this a lot, then transparent proxies at the various ISPs will take much of the load. :-) I haven't heard of any ISP using transparent proxies around here. Another thing that'd be nice to have, is duplicate tile detection. There are a lot of sea tiles, empty land tiles, and probably some tiles containing only forest or similiar. This could save lots of space, Yes, on an ext3 filesystem, it would save 4kB per duplicate file. Personally, I'd also want to see Yaouh (or the corresponding functionality) integrated into TangoGPS (probably by first making clear that the download operation only fills holes in the cache and doesn't refetch things that are already cached, and then by providing a new command refresh all the tiles in the current area (above and below)). Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:45:28 +0200, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: These here sound good to me to have around (in Yaouh, too) * skipping files modified recently How recent would that be? I run yaouh to get the latest tiles where I have updated the map. Of course, this is often the same tiles as I refreshed a couple of days earlier. So I think this has to be optional. Some kind of uses need to check fairly new tiles. I use the program in exactly the same way. Skipping files is not for sake of less transfer, but for less time spent on contacting remote servers (that's the same reason why I believe deleting files long unused is necessary). As of now, skipping files one day old is completely sufficient for me. Unless you do many updates every day and the tile server gets updated quicker than in my area. The value should be adjustable (including 0) in my opinion. * forcing download empty tiles What does that mean? The current version treats the empty files (size 0) left by tangoGPS as ones needed to download by force, that is, not checking for the server modification date. For example download every tile that has 2 (or 3 or four) neighbors downloaded to 'fill the gaps' in the map. That's an interesting idea... unfortunately, the program would need to be rewritten because it uses recursive traversal of dictionaries now (and I think Yaouh! does so, too). Ah, excellent! It'd also be nice to have an option for automatically zooming out. That is, if I have a bunch of tiles at zoom 15 (downloaded using tangogps perhaps) then I want the zoom 14 tiles covering the same area, as well as the zoom 13 tiles, and so on all the way up to the top. Of course, the number of tiles quickly gets lower as one goes up, and usually hits a tile that is there already after a few levels. I think this will be the next thing I implement when I get some free time. Another thing that'd be nice to have, is duplicate tile detection. There are a lot of sea tiles, empty land tiles, and probably some tiles containing only forest or similiar. This could save lots of space, but not download time. It'd still be necessary to check if empty land suddenly isn't empty anymore. Is it really that good? Thousands of tiles wold be necessary to make any real difference, even if the internal storage of a Freerunner is used. A few megabytes saved when a few hundred is laying there isn't worth the trouble. Imagine storing modify dates for each sea tile independently when they are all symlinked to the same file (if you want to use the skipping functionality mentioned above to save time). -- Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Personally, I'd also want to see Yaouh (or the corresponding functionality) integrated into TangoGPS (probably by first making clear that the download operation only fills holes in the cache and doesn't refetch things that are already cached, and then by providing a new command refresh all the tiles in the current area (above and below)). Personally I'd like to be able to dump tangogps (or similar that uses png tiles) and use something that's able to render the map from vector data. ~ something that Navit does but with some functionality that tangogps has and navit doesn't (easy gui to save track, trip information etc etc). This way a LOT of space bandwith would be saved if bitmaps wouldn't have to be loaded but a vector map. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
I second that motion. :P I downloaded the planet.bin vector map just so I would have it when I got a hold of a app to use it, but I can't figure out Navit and I like TangoGPS's UI anyways. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Command-line Yaouh! clone
2009/4/24 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com: This is something OSM should get into. I would like to get all the kinds of things Cloudmade offer (navit? osm/xml?) for all of Australia but only for my city. Does OSM currently have a way of working out the boundary-box of a city? If not, I'd certainly help make boxes if there was a web interface for sending them in. Either way, someone (OSM? Openmoko community?) could automatically offer zip/tar/tbz files of all the tiles needed in the correct TangoGPS structure. there are multiple ways to figure out/get the data for the boundary box of any arbitrary area: 1. go to www.informationfreeway.org and the lat/lon under your mouse will be shown as you move it around. you can convert this into an osm download request via the api (see the osm wiki of rdetails) 2. go to openstreetmap.org and click on export. there are numerous options there for getting the data 3. have a dig around on wiki.openstreetmap.org there's tons of information about getting/using the data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Missing MAKE Command
Hello All I have missing *make* Command in my Openmoko, when i try to build something, i can not because of *make*. Where can i download it from. if its in Source code, then how to compile it. and if u want me to download it directly to phone using *opkg*, plzz also mention the command for it. Thanx All ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: thanks for the snippet! but imho the best (and proper) way would be to create an illume action (not external script) so it could be assignable to a shortcut I agree. However this one works also with non-illume keyboards... That's why I've used this approach. If I'll find some time I'll try to patch illume itself too. ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 kimaidou ha scritto: Oups, sorry I just had not thought there was some help ! Thanks a lot, it works well. I think you should package it into an simple ipk file, and put it on opkg.org http://opkg.org, so that everybody can enjoy it ! Yeah, could anyone package it? :) It'll be very useful! Anyway thanks a lot Thanks from me :) - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknA9gkACgkQRi2TsGSC4FYbewCePB5AlsWfsp8viOD/II0szuMD +pgAoKovvSBkwVNI1BRoO5Bcd1K3RwAc =331i -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
thanks for the snippet! but imho the best (and proper) way would be to create an illume action (not external script) so it could be assignable to a shortcut On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: kimaidou ha scritto: Oups, sorry I just had not thought there was some help ! Thanks a lot, it works well. I think you should package it into an simple ipk file, and put it on opkg.org http://opkg.org, so that everybody can enjoy it ! Yeah, could anyone package it? :) It'll be very useful! Anyway thanks a lot Thanks from me :) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
Oups, sorry I just had not thought there was some help ! Thanks a lot, it works well. I think you should package it into an simple ipk file, and put it on opkg.org, so that everybody can enjoy it ! Anyway thanks a lot Kimaidou 2009/3/13 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:17:13 +0100 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Hum, I tried again, and from SSH too, but the command /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show does not hide the keyboard if it is here. Could you send by email the binary you are using ? (if possible) NB: I am using this file : http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/illume-kbd-show Thanks Kimaidou --help gives some hints... ;) Try illume-kbd-show -t (for 'toggle') j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
Hi! Hum, I tried again, and from SSH too, but the command /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show does not hide the keyboard if it is here. Could you send by email the binary you are using ? (if possible) NB: I am using this file : http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/illume-kbd-show Thanks Kimaidou 2009/3/11 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net kimaidou wrote: Thanks very much for sharing your tool ! I am using SHR + Illume, and I would like to make the illume keyboard appear when short clicking on AUX. So I went to the Illume configuration -- Input -- Key Bindings, and added the command /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show on the Aux press. Yes, I did that too. This works well, but I cannot use the same Aux button to hide the keyboard. The best for that would be that your script first test wether the keyboard is displayed or not, and display / hide it depending on the display status. Do you think it is possible ? Really? I don't know if you're using the latest binary (or if I've uploaded the correct one :P), but it sends by default the toggle command; using that the keyboard shows when it's hidden and hides when it's shown... It works well to me. You can try it from ssh too. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:17:13 +0100 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Hum, I tried again, and from SSH too, but the command /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show does not hide the keyboard if it is here. Could you send by email the binary you are using ? (if possible) NB: I am using this file : http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/illume-kbd-show Thanks Kimaidou --help gives some hints... ;) Try illume-kbd-show -t (for 'toggle') j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
Hi Thanks very much for sharing your tool ! I am using SHR + Illume, and I would like to make the illume keyboard appear when short clicking on AUX. So I went to the Illume configuration -- Input -- Key Bindings, and added the command /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show on the Aux press. This works well, but I cannot use the same Aux button to hide the keyboard. The best for that would be that your script first test wether the keyboard is displayed or not, and display / hide it depending on the display status. Do you think it is possible ? Thanks again. Kimaidou 2009/3/11 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net kimaidou wrote: I am running SHR testing, and I am trying to display the keyboard with a very short press on AUX (like under Hackable:1). To map the keys, I use illume configuration : Input Key binding. I have not found with google and wiki search how to display the keyboard, such as when clicking on the icon qwerty. The illume keyboard supports the matchbox protocol that works over x11 xevents, that's why I've written this small c program [1] that basically sends the _MB_IM_INVOKER_COMMAND x-atom that can control the illume (and matchbox) keyboard. You can try this binary too, simply run illume-kbd-show to show the keyboard it and illume-kbd-show -k to hide it. Using that code as base we could also use the ecore_x keyboard atoms (_E_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD*) to select the keyboard to be used and so on... [1] http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/illume-kbd-show.c [2] http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/illume-kbd-show -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
kimaidou wrote: Thanks very much for sharing your tool ! I am using SHR + Illume, and I would like to make the illume keyboard appear when short clicking on AUX. So I went to the Illume configuration -- Input -- Key Bindings, and added the command /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show on the Aux press. Yes, I did that too. This works well, but I cannot use the same Aux button to hide the keyboard. The best for that would be that your script first test wether the keyboard is displayed or not, and display / hide it depending on the display status. Do you think it is possible ? Really? I don't know if you're using the latest binary (or if I've uploaded the correct one :P), but it sends by default the toggle command; using that the keyboard shows when it's hidden and hides when it's shown... It works well to me. You can try it from ssh too. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
Hi all I am running SHR testing, and I am trying to display the keyboard with a very short press on AUX (like under Hackable:1). To map the keys, I use illume configuration : Input Key binding. I have not found with google and wiki search how to display the keyboard, such as when clicking on the icon qwerty. Thanks for your help Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open IPKG packages from command line
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: I have been able to extract some packages by using tar -zxvf after renaming the extension to tar.gz - though I cant with all packages (and I dont know why). Try it with `file': it will usually tell you what kind of file you're looking at. `ipkg' packages have used various formats over time, the ones I remember are .tar.gz and ar. In bith cases, the content is a few meta files plus a .tar.gz (so you stupidly get double compression if the outer wrapper is .tar.gz). AFAIK file should return you a 'debian binary' file format for ipk packages now. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open IPKG packages from command line
AFAIK file should return you a 'debian binary' file format for ipk packages now. Duh, it does now indeed. I can see why it can be useful, but for it would also sometimes be useful to know that it's a subtype of `ar'. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open IPKG packages from command line
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:10:14AM +0100, Kasper Johansen wrote: Hi list. Is it possible to extract a IPK-package (some_package.ipk)? I do not want to install anything - just inspect the package on my Ubuntu-machine. man dpkg-deb I have been able to extract some packages by using tar -zxvf after renaming the extension to tar.gz - though I cant with all packages (and I dont know why). Because they are not supposed to be gzipped tar archives. The ones you can extract with tar -zxvf are broken. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open IPKG packages from command line
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:10:14AM +0100, Kasper Johansen wrote: Hi list. Is it possible to extract a IPK-package (some_package.ipk)? I do not want to install anything - just inspect the package on my Ubuntu-machine. man dpkg-deb try ar x file.ipk r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open IPKG packages from command line
I have been able to extract some packages by using tar -zxvf after renaming the extension to tar.gz - though I cant with all packages (and I dont know why). Try it with `file': it will usually tell you what kind of file you're looking at. `ipkg' packages have used various formats over time, the ones I remember are .tar.gz and ar. In bith cases, the content is a few meta files plus a .tar.gz (so you stupidly get double compression if the outer wrapper is .tar.gz). Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Open IPKG packages from command line
Hi list. Is it possible to extract a IPK-package (some_package.ipk)? I do not want to install anything - just inspect the package on my Ubuntu-machine. I have been able to extract some packages by using tar -zxvf after renaming the extension to tar.gz - though I cant with all packages (and I dont know why). Can anyone point in the direction on how to do so? -- Med venlig hilsen Kasper Johansen Udviklingskonsulent og software engineer KNJ IT-solutions - Engvej 3 - DK-4970 Rødby Mail : kaspe...@gmail.com Telefon : +45 31593812 Telefon : +45 26173812 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open IPKG packages from command line
.ipk are like debian (or indeed ubuntu) packages, i.e. they are initially packaged with ar, not tar. Unpacking will give you a meta-data file plus control.tar.gz. and data.tar.gz, which you can untar as usual. data.tar.gz is meants to be untarred in /, i.e. it contains all folders up from usr, var, etc. - Gunnar Kasper Johansen wrote: Hi list. Is it possible to extract a IPK-package (some_package.ipk)? I do not want to install anything - just inspect the package on my Ubuntu-machine. I have been able to extract some packages by using tar -zxvf after renaming the extension to tar.gz - though I cant with all packages (and I dont know why). Can anyone point in the direction on how to do so? -- Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes gunnar.grimnes [AT] dfki.de DFKI GmbH Knowledge Management Trippstadter Strasse 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern Germany Office: +49 631 205 75-117 Mobile: +49 177 277 4397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open IPKG packages from command line
For future reference: ar -x some_package.ipk did the trick. Thank you Gunnar! Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: .ipk are like debian (or indeed ubuntu) packages, i.e. they are initially packaged with ar, not tar. Unpacking will give you a meta-data file plus control.tar.gz. and data.tar.gz, which you can untar as usual. data.tar.gz is meants to be untarred in /, i.e. it contains all folders up from usr, var, etc. - Gunnar Kasper Johansen wrote: Hi list. Is it possible to extract a IPK-package (some_package.ipk)? I do not want to install anything - just inspect the package on my Ubuntu-machine. I have been able to extract some packages by using tar -zxvf after renaming the extension to tar.gz - though I cant with all packages (and I dont know why). Can anyone point in the direction on how to do so? -- Med venlig hilsen Kasper Johansen Udviklingskonsulent og software engineer KNJ IT-solutions - Engvej 3 - DK-4970 Rødby Mail : kaspe...@gmail.com Telefon : +45 31593812 Telefon : +45 26173812 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open IPKG packages from command line
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Kasper Johansen k...@spernj.org wrote: For future reference: ar -x some_package.ipk did the trick. Thank you Gunnar! Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: .ipk are like debian (or indeed ubuntu) packages, i.e. they are initially packaged with ar, not tar. Unpacking will give you a meta-data file plus control.tar.gz. and data.tar.gz, which you can untar as usual. data.tar.gz is meants to be untarred in /, i.e. it contains all folders up from usr, var, etc. - Gunnar Indeed, thank you both for asking answering - I've been planning to learn to create .deb packages for a long time. Now that I'm able to open .deb and .ipk packages (didn't know earlier how to do it) the whole thing makes a lot more sense :) Now I still need to find out when the included scripts (preinst prerm postrm) are run and where are $D and $OPT defined. Thanks again :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open IPKG packages from command line
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Kasper Johansen k...@spernj.org wrote: For future reference: ar -x some_package.ipk did the trick. Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: .ipk are like debian (or indeed ubuntu) packages, i.e. they are initially packaged with ar, not tar. Unpacking will give you a meta-data file plus control.tar.gz. and data.tar.gz, which you can untar as usual. data.tar.gz is meants to be untarred in /, i.e. it contains all folders up from usr, var, etc. Indeed, thank you both for asking answering - I've been planning to learn to create .deb packages for a long time. Now that I'm able to open .deb and .ipk packages (didn't know earlier how to do it) the whole thing makes a lot more sense :) Now I still need to find out when the included scripts (preinst prerm postrm) are run and where are $D and $OPT defined Hi Risto. If you want to create .ipk-packages, you should take a look at the ipkg-build.sh-script. You basically just do this: ipkg-build.sh folder_with_files/ In the folder_with_files-folder you then put stuff like: usr/share/applications/shortcut.desktop opt/my_application/app.rb CONTROL/control It is very easy to use. You can read about the script here: http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto You can download the script here: http://www.oesf.org/howto/downloads/ipkg-build.sh Further more, I have created a script, which reads all .ipk-packages in its own folder and creates a Packages.gz-file from that, so you can easily set up your own repository. If you (or anyone else) is interested, I would gladly share the source-code for this script with you all. I will even set up a SVN for the script, if anyone wants to help develop it. -- Med venlig hilsen Kasper Johansen Mail : kaspe...@gmail.com Telefon : +45 26173812 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
Carsten Gerlach ha scritto: Hi, Am Dienstag 14. Oktober 2008 3:13:14 am schrieb Joel Newkirk: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:26:10 +0100, Stroller wrote Isn't it in .bashrc or .bash_profile? Stroller. it is for bash, but OM distros are using an sh/ash replacement builtin to busybox. ~/.bashrc is for bash. What is the corresponding file for sh/ash? ~/.ashrc? or ~/.shrc? Greetings, Carsten I use ~/.profile and it seems to work :) My 2 cents ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
hi matthias, i just updated the wiki page you referred to. i managed to initiate a call. the sms functionality must be quite similar. good luck max Matthias Apitz schrieb: El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 02:55:30PM +0200, Max Giesbert escribió: hi matthias, have you considered using the dbus interface of FSO for this purpose? cheers Hello Max, Do you have a bit more information about that? I went to the Wiki page about D-Bus: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/D-Bus but this is outdated or incomplete (again); I've played around with this: # dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Dialer /org/openmoko/Dialer org.openmoko.Dialer.Dial string:08961308351 Failed to open connection to session message bus: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch requested, but X11 support not compiled in. Cannot continue. # export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-GJbsqe78BO,guid=c08c2c056c7ef84e3fc4a09048f59782 (the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS I've got by just doing 'cat /proc/*/environ | fgrep DBUS') # dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Dialer /org/openmoko/Dialer org.openmoko.Dialer.Dial string:08961308351 Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.openmoko.Dialer was not provided by any .service files So, now I'm lost :-( Thx matthias -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
papa-piet a écrit : Fox Mulder schrieb: I didn't try it with 2008.9 because i only use debian I did. shh into your Neo workerd for me, but scp didn't, it looked like a timeout. Greetings Same behavior here, with bash I can ssh, but not scp. Here is the end of a scp -vvv with sh : http://pastebin.com/m475828a Here is the end of a scp -vvv with bash : http://pastebin.com/m5164a60e With bash I cannot : scp localfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp nor scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/file localfile Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:12:26 +0200, Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: papa-piet a écrit : Fox Mulder schrieb: I didn't try it with 2008.9 because i only use debian I did. shh into your Neo workerd for me, but scp didn't, it looked like a timeout. Greetings Same behavior here, with bash I can ssh, but not scp. Here is the end of a scp -vvv with sh : http://pastebin.com/m475828a Here is the end of a scp -vvv with bash : http://pastebin.com/m5164a60e With bash I cannot : scp localfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp nor scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/file localfile Xavier. Interesting. I usually use SFTP instead of SCP, just a matter of habit. I tested (Raster's prior image + FSO, uname -a gives Linux iota.newkirk.us 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 26 14:13:25 EST 2008 armv4tl unknown) and both sftp and scp work for me as expected, with root:Kepdp5b2.52RA:0:0:root:/home/root:/bin/bash in /etc/passwd. Oh, and I have a root password set. I've not tested with ssh-key, since I don't have that handy here at work. My suspicions fall on either differing dropbear (Dropbear sshd v0.51) config or different bash packages. (GNU bash, version 3.2.39(1)-release (arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi), installed from FSO repository) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
Hi, Am Donnerstag 16. Oktober 2008 9:41:33 am schrieb DJDAS: I use ~/.profile and it seems to work :) yes, this works good, thank you. Now I can use aliases :-) Greetings, Carsten -- Hier ist mein öffentlicher GPG-Schlüssel: http://daswaldhorn.funpic.de/gpg.html = www.stopptdievorratsdatenspeicherung.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:12:26 +0200, Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: papa-piet a écrit : Fox Mulder schrieb: I didn't try it with 2008.9 because i only use debian I did. shh into your Neo workerd for me, but scp didn't, it looked like a timeout. Greetings Same behavior here, with bash I can ssh, but not scp. Here is the end of a scp -vvv with sh : http://pastebin.com/m475828a Here is the end of a scp -vvv with bash : http://pastebin.com/m5164a60e With bash I cannot : scp localfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp nor scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/file localfile Xavier. Interesting. I usually use SFTP instead of SCP, just a matter of habit. I tested (Raster's prior image + FSO, uname -a gives Linux iota.newkirk.us 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 26 14:13:25 EST 2008 armv4tl unknown) and both sftp and scp work for me as expected, with root:Kepdp5b2.52RA:0:0:root:/home/root:/bin/bash in /etc/passwd. Oh, and I have a root password set. I've not tested with ssh-key, since I don't have that handy here at work. My suspicions fall on either differing dropbear (Dropbear sshd v0.51) config or different bash packages. (GNU bash, version 3.2.39(1)-release (arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi), installed from FSO repository) The first thing i always did on my different distros was to replace bash-busybox with real bash and replace dropbear with openssh. Maybe you should try this combo to get scp to work again because i never got any problems with it. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
Hello, I figured out that 'qtmail' is the application for sending SMS (and other messages); is there a way to SSH to the FR and send a SMS from the command line, for example like: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 Hello World or even: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 file That would be nice, I think matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
hi matthias, have you considered using the dbus interface of FSO for this purpose? cheers max Matthias Apitz schrieb: Hello, I figured out that 'qtmail' is the application for sending SMS (and other messages); is there a way to SSH to the FR and send a SMS from the command line, for example like: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 Hello World or even: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 file That would be nice, I think matthias -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 02:55:30PM +0200, Max Giesbert escribió: hi matthias, have you considered using the dbus interface of FSO for this purpose? cheers Hello Max, Do you have a bit more information about that? I went to the Wiki page about D-Bus: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/D-Bus but this is outdated or incomplete (again); I've played around with this: # dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Dialer /org/openmoko/Dialer org.openmoko.Dialer.Dial string:08961308351 Failed to open connection to session message bus: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch requested, but X11 support not compiled in. Cannot continue. # export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-GJbsqe78BO,guid=c08c2c056c7ef84e3fc4a09048f59782 (the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS I've got by just doing 'cat /proc/*/environ | fgrep DBUS') # dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Dialer /org/openmoko/Dialer org.openmoko.Dialer.Dial string:08961308351 Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.openmoko.Dialer was not provided by any .service files So, now I'm lost :-( Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
There was something posted a few weeks back on how to do this. I just searched my (incomplete) archive and cant find it - but it can be done! It was one of the OM guys I think ... Sorry, not much help other than confirmation it can be done :) BillK On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:33 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I figured out that 'qtmail' is the application for sending SMS (and other messages); is there a way to SSH to the FR and send a SMS from the command line, for example like: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 Hello World or even: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 file That would be nice, I think matthias -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
Matthias Apitz wrote: I figured out that 'qtmail' is the application for sending SMS (and other messages); is there a way to SSH to the FR and send a SMS from the command line, for example like: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 Hello World I don't really know if there's a way to do it, btw an Italian user found a workaround for this. The article [1] is written in Italian but the code (in python) should be easy to understand. If I'm not remembering wrong, using D-bus, is possible to retrieve only SMSs and calls (not to send). [1] http://gecco.wordpress.com/2008/10/13/openmoko-spedire-sms-da-terminale/ -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
W.Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 22:21 -0400, Joel Newkirk wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:29:59 +1100, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2008 12:17:06 Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:21:18 +0200, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use bash on OM than do it the same way how it is done in a normal linux pc. You must export HISTFILESIZE=1000 to set the number of lines saved to 1000. Just put this command in an adequate file to be executed at start like profile or bashrc. Ciao, Rainer Indeed, but how then do I tell it to use bash instead of ash for Terminal and ssh? vi /etc/passwd? Sarton (Ok, I'll go sit in the corner for five minutes wearing the stupid hat... I already knew that from desktop/server context but for some reason my brain just didn't make the connection...) Thanks. j be aware that doing this used to break X and other things during boot-up - not sure why but funny things happened ... Only work around I found was to log in as usual, and type bash at the command prompt. Be interesting to see if this is still the case ... The busybox-bash doesn't support all features the real bash does why i installed the bash from the repository. I only did this with 2007.2 and it works flawless. I didn't try it with 2008.9 because i only use debian on my neo at the monent. To use bash i only had to edit passwd and nothing else. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
Fox Mulder schrieb: I didn't try it with 2008.9 because i only use debian I did. shh into your Neo workerd for me, but scp didn't, it looked like a timeout. Greetings ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 17:02 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: How can I enlarge the console command history? I'm used to being able to peruse hundreds of lines of previous commands in bash, the limit to ~16 lines is maddening. j I want to know how to do is too, I'm one os those lazy up arrow smashers :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
If you use bash on OM than do it the same way how it is done in a normal linux pc. You must export HISTFILESIZE=1000 to set the number of lines saved to 1000. Just put this command in an adequate file to be executed at start like profile or bashrc. Ciao, Rainer David Samblas wrote: El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 17:02 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: How can I enlarge the console command history? I'm used to being able to peruse hundreds of lines of previous commands in bash, the limit to ~16 lines is maddening. j I want to know how to do is too, I'm one os those lazy up arrow smashers :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
On 13 Oct 2008, at 22:02, Joel Newkirk wrote: How can I enlarge the console command history? I'm used to being able to peruse hundreds of lines of previous commands in bash, the limit to ~16 lines is maddening. Isn't it in .bashrc or .bash_profile? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:26:10 +0100, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Oct 2008, at 22:02, Joel Newkirk wrote: How can I enlarge the console command history? I'm used to being able to peruse hundreds of lines of previous commands in bash, the limit to ~16 lines is maddening. Isn't it in .bashrc or .bash_profile? Stroller. it is for bash, but OM distros are using an sh/ash replacement builtin to busybox. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
On Tuesday 14 October 2008 12:17:06 Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:21:18 +0200, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use bash on OM than do it the same way how it is done in a normal linux pc. You must export HISTFILESIZE=1000 to set the number of lines saved to 1000. Just put this command in an adequate file to be executed at start like profile or bashrc. Ciao, Rainer Indeed, but how then do I tell it to use bash instead of ash for Terminal and ssh? vi /etc/passwd? Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:21:18 +0200, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use bash on OM than do it the same way how it is done in a normal linux pc. You must export HISTFILESIZE=1000 to set the number of lines saved to 1000. Just put this command in an adequate file to be executed at start like profile or bashrc. Ciao, Rainer Indeed, but how then do I tell it to use bash instead of ash for Terminal and ssh? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:29:59 +1100, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2008 12:17:06 Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:21:18 +0200, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use bash on OM than do it the same way how it is done in a normal linux pc. You must export HISTFILESIZE=1000 to set the number of lines saved to 1000. Just put this command in an adequate file to be executed at start like profile or bashrc. Ciao, Rainer Indeed, but how then do I tell it to use bash instead of ash for Terminal and ssh? vi /etc/passwd? Sarton (Ok, I'll go sit in the corner for five minutes wearing the stupid hat... I already knew that from desktop/server context but for some reason my brain just didn't make the connection...) Thanks. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
On Tuesday 14 October 2008 13:21:21 Joel Newkirk wrote: vi /etc/passwd? Sarton (Ok, I'll go sit in the corner for five minutes wearing the stupid hat... I already knew that from desktop/server context but for some reason my brain just didn't make the connection...) Thanks. Hehe, don't stress :) I grew up on BSD (94/95) which has always been pretty baron so for a good long while before most of the automation existed, I did everything by hand and then continued doing it even when I didn't have to :S chsh was the first thing I checked for though :) Everything is so abstract now it's easy to forget the bottom layer. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 22:21 -0400, Joel Newkirk wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:29:59 +1100, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2008 12:17:06 Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:21:18 +0200, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use bash on OM than do it the same way how it is done in a normal linux pc. You must export HISTFILESIZE=1000 to set the number of lines saved to 1000. Just put this command in an adequate file to be executed at start like profile or bashrc. Ciao, Rainer Indeed, but how then do I tell it to use bash instead of ash for Terminal and ssh? vi /etc/passwd? Sarton (Ok, I'll go sit in the corner for five minutes wearing the stupid hat... I already knew that from desktop/server context but for some reason my brain just didn't make the connection...) Thanks. j be aware that doing this used to break X and other things during boot-up - not sure why but funny things happened ... Only work around I found was to log in as usual, and type bash at the command prompt. Be interesting to see if this is still the case ... BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [u-boot] Wrong image format for bootm command
The issue is that somehow your u-boot environment, which is stored in a separate partition to u-boot itself (and therefore not reset when you flash u-boot), has been cleared. There's a solution here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Uboot#What_if_I_borked_my_bootloader_environment_and_don.27t_get_a_prompt_anymore.3F Let me know if you have any trouble - I did this myself (on purpose) the other day, so it's still fairly fresh in my mind. Cheers, -Ian On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm having trouble booting my neo. I can get into NOR flash, and NAND flash, but the NAND flash only supplies one option: the Boot command. This command prints a message saying Wrong image format for the bootm command. I have grabbed the latest u-boot from: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin I have flashed this into my NAND using dfu-util from my NOR with no errors. My flash image is currently the FDOM image. I was attempting to install debian on my uSD. I updated to the latest uboot, configured it using a script provided at debian.org, and then booted into my flash image and proceeded to install debian. The process halted after partitioning, which then advised to use 'cu' to add some environmental variables to booting. After this, I rebooted and began receiving these errors. I currently cannot boot into anything. I can log into NOR (which seems fine) but I am unable to flash a working NAND (Just that boot option). Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Erik Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [u-boot] Wrong image format for bootm command
I have a strange thing with U-boot and Wrong image format for bootm command too. I have installed Debian on /dev/mmcblk0p3 and when I select Boot option in u-boot, the first time it displays this error message and next time it boots correctly. Any idea why it wouldn't boot the first time I select Boot ? Thanks Jérôme On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue is that somehow your u-boot environment, which is stored in a separate partition to u-boot itself (and therefore not reset when you flash u-boot), has been cleared. There's a solution here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Uboot#What_if_I_borked_my_bootloader_environment_and_don.27t_get_a_prompt_anymore.3F Let me know if you have any trouble - I did this myself (on purpose) the other day, so it's still fairly fresh in my mind. Cheers, -Ian On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm having trouble booting my neo. I can get into NOR flash, and NAND flash, but the NAND flash only supplies one option: the Boot command. This command prints a message saying Wrong image format for the bootm command. I have grabbed the latest u-boot from: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin I have flashed this into my NAND using dfu-util from my NOR with no errors. My flash image is currently the FDOM image. I was attempting to install debian on my uSD. I updated to the latest uboot, configured it using a script provided at debian.org, and then booted into my flash image and proceeded to install debian. The process halted after partitioning, which then advised to use 'cu' to add some environmental variables to booting. After this, I rebooted and began receiving these errors. I currently cannot boot into anything. I can log into NOR (which seems fine) but I am unable to flash a working NAND (Just that boot option). Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Erik Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[u-boot] Wrong image format for bootm command
Hey, I'm having trouble booting my neo. I can get into NOR flash, and NAND flash, but the NAND flash only supplies one option: the Boot command. This command prints a message saying Wrong image format for the bootm command. I have grabbed the latest u-boot from: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin I have flashed this into my NAND using dfu-util from my NOR with no errors. My flash image is currently the FDOM image. I was attempting to install debian on my uSD. I updated to the latest uboot, configured it using a script provided at debian.org, and then booted into my flash image and proceeded to install debian. The process halted after partitioning, which then advised to use 'cu' to add some environmental variables to booting. After this, I rebooted and began receiving these errors. I currently cannot boot into anything. I can log into NOR (which seems fine) but I am unable to flash a working NAND (Just that boot option). Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?
My old, cheap 7-11 ATT pay-as-you-go Nokia phone had a neat feature which would disable the Caller ID. Are there any AT commands I can issue on the FR to do the same feature? I'm guessing it was a feature of the GSM modem, or maybe it was an instruction to the carrier network, issued via the modem. I need this because the number I use for my FR is *not* my real number-- my main number is a VOIP number and I have it forwarded to the cellphone. It'd be REALLY GREAT if there was a way to change the caller ID number to be my actual main phone number, not the phone disposable number of my pay-as-you-go cellphone plan. -ken ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:50:48 +0200, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old, cheap 7-11 ATT pay-as-you-go Nokia phone had a neat feature which would disable the Caller ID. Are there any AT commands I can issue on the FR to do the same feature? I'm guessing it was a feature of the GSM modem, or maybe it was an instruction to the carrier network, issued via the modem. GSM features like this one are controlled by “dialling” certain special numbers: http://web.telia.com/~u47904776/gsmkode.htm#nummerpres Note that not every cell provider implements this, and some charge for it. It'd be REALLY GREAT if there was a way to change the caller ID number to be my actual main phone number, not the phone disposable number of my pay-as-you-go cellphone plan. You are not allowed to change your caller ID number, for obvious reasons. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:12:51AM +0200, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:50:48 +0200, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old, cheap 7-11 ATT pay-as-you-go Nokia phone had a neat feature which would disable the Caller ID. Are there any AT commands I can issue on the FR to do the same feature? I'm guessing it was a feature of the GSM modem, or maybe it was an instruction to the carrier network, issued via the modem. GSM features like this one are controlled by “dialling” certain special numbers: http://web.telia.com/~u47904776/gsmkode.htm#nummerpres Note that not every cell provider implements this, and some charge for it. Thanks! The command appears to be CLIR, and, unfortunately, there's no global setting for it. #31#PhoneNumber, means I have to type it before each call. On land phones, there's a *70 (or is it *71), to disable caller ID globally. So it appears that the Nokia is prepending #31# before each phone number it dials. Is there some way to get the Qtopia dialer (ASU software) to prepend this dialing string? -ken ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:33:46 +0200, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The command appears to be CLIR, and, unfortunately, there's no global setting for it. #31#PhoneNumber, means I have to type it before each call. On land phones, there's a *70 (or is it *71), to disable caller ID globally. So it appears that the Nokia is prepending #31# before each phone number it dials. Sorry, I was wrong, the permanent setting for CLIR is controlled by a GSM modem command AT+CLIR. -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?
On Thursday 17 July 2008 11:09, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:33:46 +0200, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The command appears to be CLIR, and, unfortunately, there's no global setting for it. #31#PhoneNumber, means I have to type it before each call. On land phones, there's a *70 (or is it *71), to disable caller ID globally. So it appears that the Nokia is prepending #31# before each phone number it dials. Sorry, I was wrong, the permanent setting for CLIR is controlled by a GSM modem command AT+CLIR. But the #31# will work for as well, but only for the calls you to which you are prepending it. I guess the #31# thing is some kind on common standard among GSM carriers... AVee -- Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Only one, but it takes a long time, and the light bulb has to really want to change. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:09:19AM +0200, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:33:46 +0200, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The command appears to be CLIR, and, unfortunately, there's no global setting for it. #31#PhoneNumber, means I have to type it before each call. On land phones, there's a *70 (or is it *71), to disable caller ID globally. So it appears that the Nokia is prepending #31# before each phone number it dials. Sorry, I was wrong, the permanent setting for CLIR is controlled by a GSM modem command AT+CLIR. Thanks! Is it persistent across phone reboots? Or do I need to add that to some kind of connect script that runs every time the phone powers up? -ken ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
AT command test suite
Hi,
I have been looking for an AT command test suite that can be run on
the host. I've tried:
1. Minicom:
Keying in AT commands has to be done manually. I tried using the
built-in runscript feature to automate the process, for example:
send AT
send AT+CGMM
exit
or
send AT
send AT+CGMM
expect {
timeout 5
}
but, it only displays the output of the last sent command. Buffer is
cleared before the next command is issued, I suppose. So, outputs
cannot be logged either.
2. Cquery Perl script from:
ftp://gatling.ikk.sztaki.hu/pub/samsem/
http://gatling.ikk.sztaki.hu/~kissg/gsm/
It works. But, it is under public domain. Do you think it will be good
to tweak it (and put it under GPL) so it can be used to test Neo on
different networks? This information can be put up on the wiki? Is
this method permissible to analyse AT on different networks?
Appreciate your inputs/suggestions,
Thanks,
--
Shakthi Kannan
http://www.shakthimaan.com
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Re: AT command test suite
On Saturday 28 July 2007 12:52, Shakthi Kannan wrote: It works. But, it is under public domain. Do you think it will be good to tweak it (and put it under GPL) so it can be used to test Neo on Why do you feel the need to apply the GPL to this? It's in the public domain - leave it there. Andy ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AT command test suite
Hi, On 7/28/07, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you feel the need to apply the GPL to this? It's in the public domain - leave it there. It is implemented in Perl and command-line. I thought it will be valuable to write a perl-GTK GUI [1] application for it, so an end-user can simply 'click' on say a Run AT Test button or something, which can save the result to a file, and can possibly submit the results/report to developers. We could enhance this to the following wiki page to include useful info as to what works and what doesn't: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_compatible_cellphone_providers In case, developers need to debug further, the results/reports might be useful. Just a thought. [1] http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/ -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AT command test suite
On Saturday 28 July 2007 20:11, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, On 7/28/07, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you feel the need to apply the GPL to this? It's in the public domain - leave it there. It is implemented in Perl and command-line. I thought it will be valuable to write a perl-GTK GUI [1] application for it, so an end-user can simply 'click' on say a Run AT Test button or something, which can save the result to a file, and can possibly submit the results/report to... snip All very laudable goals, but that's not the question I asked. Andy ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AT command test suite
Hi, On 7/28/07, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All very laudable goals, but that's not the question I asked. Because we can enhance the existing Perl code, which is old, dated at 2001, and we want everyone to share the code and benefit from it. -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: voice command line (was: ssh to a phone ... thats awesome !!)
Several attractive links for French language Gilles Demo Perlbox-voice-fr using eSpeak + Sphinx2 http://download.tuxfamily.org/perlboxfr/video/perlbox-voice-fr-demo.flv commands prefixed by keyword: http://www.neufstream.com/relevance/search/perlbox/video/x2n1zw_reconnaissance-vocale-et-mot-cle_tech webpage: http://perlboxfr.tuxfamily.org/ Announce linuxfr: http://linuxfr.org/~Rkraft/24983.html -- Oralux.org http://association.oralux.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
voice command line (was: ssh to a phone ... thats awesome !!)
ssh is awesome, but in the future when your on the go it would be handy to have all the commands (shell commands, common keywords and programs in path) to be bindable to voice commands. Like voice dialing, but for a shell. I know full blown speech recognition is unlikely, but just commands seems doable. Does anyone have any experience with voice learning? What do you guys think? Mark On 7/27/07, Tim Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need video, or it didn't happing. Just kidding, though seriously, I want to see more video online of the NEO1973 and open moko in action. On 7/27/07, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I just got my Neo. Upgraded the kernel and rootfs and shortly I was ssh'ing in to a phone !! Now on to making a call :-) Enjoy! -- Pranav -- http://pd.dnsalias.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: voice command line (was: ssh to a phone ... thats awesome !!)
On 7/27/07, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ssh is awesome, but in the future when your on the go it would be handy to have all the commands (shell commands, common keywords and programs in path) to be bindable to voice commands. Like voice dialing, but for a shell. I know full blown speech recognition is unlikely, but just commands seems doable. Does anyone have any experience with voice learning? Actually, I had used a tool called cvoicecontrol sometime back for exactly that, running scripts or cmds using voice. It wasnt very powerful in terms of how well it could recognize, but was functional enough. http://www.kiecza.net/daniel/linux/ What do you guys think? Mark On 7/27/07, Tim Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need video, or it didn't happing. Just kidding, though seriously, I want to see more video online of the NEO1973 and open moko in action. On 7/27/07, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I just got my Neo. Upgraded the kernel and rootfs and shortly I was ssh'ing in to a phone !! Now on to making a call :-) Enjoy! -- Pranav -- http://pd.dnsalias.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- http://pd.dnsalias.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: voice command line (was: ssh to a phone ... thats awesome !!)
Actually, I had used a tool called cvoicecontrol sometime back for exactly that, running scripts or cmds using voice. It wasnt very powerful in terms of how well it could recognize, but was functional enough. http://www.kiecza.net/daniel/linux/ Unfortunately, cvoice control doesn't seem to compile anymore. I did not manage to debug this. But it's an interesting approach, also taken by http://perlbox.org/ You may find relevant info about speech recognition (and command-and-control dialog managers) here : http://wiki.tuxisalive.com/index.php/Speech_recognition ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Voice/Command recongnition
Hi, Do any of you know packages that would allow vocal command recognition much like voice dialling on some cell phones ? This would be handy to start applications without having to navigate through menus. W ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voice/Command recongnition
Google and the keywords linux voice recognition are your friends. (e.g. XVoice, ViaVoice, CMU Sphinx, cvoicecontrol, ...) 2007/6/4, wim delvaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Do any of you know packages that would allow vocal command recognition much like voice dialling on some cell phones ? This would be handy to start applications without having to navigate through menus. W ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
