Re: elm_browser initial release
Hi, Thanks for the suggestion. I've applied. Interestingly, it seems like profusion/samsung are pushing their port of webkit to efl upstream. Hopefully, things should get a lot better soon. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Ventura-browser-NEW-release-15-Jan-tp4357081p4655147.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:28:47 -0800 (PST) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com (C) wrote: Hi, Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser. Hi, i have been using Ventura daily now, instead of Midori. And SHR is pushing Ventura as default into it's images! Great! Still some glitches exist, most of them had been discussed already, some fixed, some in progress. Now, there is a Cofundos project to stimulate development of a good browser for openmoko [1]. As you have been spending time on coding this very functional envelope for libwebkit, it would make sense to try to submit an offer... Petr [1] http://cofundos.org/project.php?id=156 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
[cut] Not everyone uses the card all the time, so ~/Downloads would be better. You can symlink that to whatever you wish (like it used to be in TangoGPS). Symlink is a good idea - I use it since ages but wouldn't ~/Maps folder fit better for this? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:49:16 +0100 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] Not everyone uses the card all the time, so ~/Downloads would be better. You can symlink that to whatever you wish (like it used to be in TangoGPS). Symlink is a good idea - I use it since ages but wouldn't ~/Maps folder fit better for this? Sorry, I didn't make it clear: ~/Maps works for TangoGPS, ~/Download would work for files downloaded with Ventura. Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2010/2/14 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com Petr Vanek wrote: - preconfigured to handle https Hmm, I could add the /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to the ipk for now. What do you think? And what about entering https:// urls? I think it is imposible now because http:// is default in URL option. -- jahckal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
Petr Vanek wrote: - be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow copy of the link into clipboard An external wget process makes sense. I'll try that. Does the /home/root/ directory work - or should I create a Downloads directory (under /home/root) and download the files there? How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the downloader perhaps too? wget. Some might change it to wget -c (continue downloading) Petr Vanek wrote: - preconfigured to handle https Hmm, I could add the /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to the ipk for now. What do you think? I hadn't realized until yesterday that the cert was the only thing missing, all the rest is installed by default already. Yes, either having it in the ipk or coordinate with the SHR folks who are apparently planning a solution too. Petr Vanek wrote: - fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue) That would need edje experience way beyond what I have right now. Maybe someone (Jesus McCloud) could help with this? I'm still struggling with the edje file for launcher. Have no edje knowledge either... Petr Vanek wrote: - disable content selection or at least ideally make it configurable (it makes finger scrolling working real slow if you select an image) Thats because efl-wbkit doesn't yet allow accessing webkit settings. Same problem for turning off images. I'll try working around that. Low priority, as mentioned. vollkorn wrote: - add support for user/pass protected pages. Can you send me a link to test with? test here: http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/ventura/ username and password: ventura cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz writes: How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the downloader perhaps too? wget. Some might change it to wget -c (continue downloading) Just make sure people won't accidentally download e.g. ~/.bash_profile there. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Em 14-02-2010 02:26, c_c escreveu: - preconfigured to handle https Hmm, I could add the /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to the ipk for now. What do you think? Please don't! It should be in it's own package, and not provided by each application. If you want, while it's not in its own package, package your own (/usr/share/ventura/ca-certificates.crt for instance). However, thank you very much for that tip, so my elmdentica code works with SSL but all it lacked was that file... I copied it from my laptop and now I have SSL working on the Freerunner, so cool! Anyone knows of a package that has this file and should be installed by default even though it isn't currently? Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 schrieb Petr Vanek: How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the downloader perhaps too? wget. Some might change it to wget -c (continue downloading) Even better would be /media/card as there is usually more space... -- Lars Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology: There's always one more bug. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 11:39:18 schrieb Lars Hennig: Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 schrieb Petr Vanek: How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the downloader perhaps too? wget. Some might change it to wget -c (continue downloading) Even better would be /media/card as there is usually more space... And what is, if someone has no sd card, or is running from it? Then that directory is missing. This should be sth the user can choose. So please include a option to configure that directory. Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:39:18 +0100 Lars Hennig n...@el-hennig.de wrote: Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 schrieb Petr Vanek: How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the downloader perhaps too? wget. Some might change it to wget -c (continue downloading) Even better would be /media/card as there is usually more space... Not everyone uses the card all the time, so ~/Downloads would be better. You can symlink that to whatever you wish (like it used to be in TangoGPS). Also, wget -c sometimes gives up, I think it was 10 retries. Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 schrieb omcomali@porcupinefactory.org: Not everyone uses the card all the time, so ~/Downloads would be better. You can symlink that to whatever you wish (like it used to be in TangoGPS). You are absolutely right: Of course it is much better to do it that way! And you could still make it configurable... Also, wget -c sometimes gives up, I think it was 10 retries. wget -c -t0 tries the download without limit. -- Lars Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology: There's always one more bug. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:28:47 -0800 (PST) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com (C) wrote: Hi, Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser. hi, shr is considering using Ventura as default browser, which is cool. carefully considering, here is a list of what imho should be added/fixed before it can happen: - be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow copy of the link into clipboard - preconfigured to handle https - fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue) and low on the list: - disable content selection or at least ideally make it configurable (it makes finger scrolling working real slow if you select an image) Kind Regards Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Samstag, den 13.02.2010, 12:40 +0100 schrieb Petr Vanek: - be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow copy of the link into clipboard - preconfigured to handle https - fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue) - add support for user/pass protected pages. Navigating to an Apache with .htaccess configured for username and password protection yields a help page telling you your browser does not implement this mechanism. :( Cheers Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
Hi, Thats Nice :) Petr Vanek wrote: - be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow copy of the link into clipboard An external wget process makes sense. I'll try that. Does the /home/root/ directory work - or should I create a Downloads directory (under /home/root) and download the files there? Petr Vanek wrote: - preconfigured to handle https Hmm, I could add the /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to the ipk for now. What do you think? Petr Vanek wrote: - fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue) That would need edje experience way beyond what I have right now. Maybe someone (Jesus McCloud) could help with this? I'm still struggling with the edje file for launcher. Petr Vanek wrote: - disable content selection or at least ideally make it configurable (it makes finger scrolling working real slow if you select an image) Thats because efl-wbkit doesn't yet allow accessing webkit settings. Same problem for turning off images. I'll try working around that. vollkorn wrote: - add support for user/pass protected pages. Can you send me a link to test with? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Ventura-browser-NEW-release-15-Jan-tp4357081p4568782.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:26:02 -0800 (PST) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: An external wget process makes sense. I'll try that. Does the /home/root/ directory work - or should I create a Downloads directory (under /home/root) and download the files there? Sorry for butting in and changing the subject here but I think it is really bad for security that the whole openmoko userland, including web browsers, runs as root. I think it would be a good idea to consider running web browsers as a different user, possibly by launching them with su -c -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 09:28:47AM -0800, c_c wrote: Hi, Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser. I haven't yet looked at the code but please keep the browser simple and stupid. Similar to surf[0] or uzbl[1] (in fact I would like to see a port of one of them to ewebkit and I might do it once I find the time). Don't implement things like bookmark management inside the browser let other apps deal with them. Do one thing and do it well. Thanks, Marc [0] http://surf.suckless.org/ [1] http://www.uzbl.org/ -- Marc Andre Tanner http://www.brain-dump.org/ GPG key: CF7D56C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, great work! There is one problem in my user's experience: when browsing Chinese websites, the characters in the page become block characters. But midori can display the characters correctly. Don't know if it's related to font settings. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-NEW-release-15-Jan-tp4357081p4425493.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Em 14-01-2010 04:24, c_c escreveu: Michael Smith-5 wrote: If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of links. I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient. I keep my bookmarks as a html page (firefox bookmarks.html) and browse to it to launch from. Maybe a similar list of html links on a local page as the startup page will be nice to launch from. I really can't suggest strongly enough to use sqlite as the place to store bookmarks, specially if you add keyword organization instead of merely hierarchichal. Thanks for stepping up with that project, I was thinking of doing it myself but I haven't had much time lately. Best, Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
With latest updates on shr-u it just segfaults without any error message not even on command line. any ideas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Monday 18 January 2010, Bernd Prünster wrote: With latest updates on shr-u it just segfaults without any error message not even on command line. any ideas Midori does it too when trying to load a page. An underlying problem with webkit perhaps? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, As does eve - with the error that it couldn't create a webview. Definitely a problem with webkit. Does anyone know where the development is takingplace on webkit-efl? The gitorious site hardly has any commits after Seop 09. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-NEW-release-15-Jan-tp4357081p4417838.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Flash works fine when I compile browser on my laptop. It automatically uses ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so. I tried using swfdec compiled for arm4t in a similar directory on the FR - but no joy. If we could get a npapi flash plugin for the arm4t, flash should start working. Any ideas? Does the android browser use a flash plugin that we can use? Al Johnson wrote: It works well, although dropdown lists seem not to work on any site i've tried so far, including the zimbra web interface which seems to work fine in other respects. Dropdown lists dont work. Maybe someone with edje experience can help by modifying the default.edj file in /usr/share/browser. Thats the one being shipped with webkit-efl. Seems like there hasn't been much work on it for the past four months or so. I'll post a slightly cleaned up version tomorrow - with a new name and hopefully a decent icon. :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-NEW-release-15-Jan-tp4357081p4405153.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:53 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: working very well. i would almost tend to say no more features to keep it fast I would agree :) Petr Vanek wrote: Rotation issue has already been reported. It takes a little while and refreshing the window by going to another apps window and bck seems to help. I'll have to experiment with it a bit - or set it as a post-restart kind of a config. Petr Vanek wrote: The show images doesn't work seems to me. It's a place holder for now. The webkit-efl port doesn't seem to expose the settings part. I'll try it directly with the webkit API. Petr Vanek wrote: Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet. A! I missed that. Petr Vanek wrote: Commandline url not accepted yet. Haven't added it yet. Soon. Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions. Need a name and icon too! Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-NEW-release-14-Jan-tp4357081p4396406.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'm trying it on shr-u but no way of getting it working r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser showing window Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Segmentation fault Where can I get it running? d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Davide Scaini wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:53 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com mailto:cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: working very well. i would almost tend to say no more features to keep it fast I would agree :) Petr Vanek wrote: Rotation issue has already been reported. It takes a little while and refreshing the window by going to another apps window and bck seems to help. I'll have to experiment with it a bit - or set it as a post-restart kind of a config. Petr Vanek wrote: The show images doesn't work seems to me. It's a place holder for now. The webkit-efl port doesn't seem to expose the settings part. I'll try it directly with the webkit API. Petr Vanek wrote: Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet. A! I missed that. Petr Vanek wrote: Commandline url not accepted yet. Haven't added it yet. Soon. Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions. Need a name and icon too! Thanks. I'm trying it on shr-u but no way of getting it working r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser showing window Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Segmentation fault Where can I get it running? I think you choosed to use Evas Software X11 16 bit engine in SHR settings (section Appearence). elm-browser only runs with Software X11 engine. A simple solution is to edit the file /usr/share/applications/browser.desktop and to replace line: Exec=browser by Exec=ELM_ENGINE=x11 browser -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.comwrote: Davide Scaini wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:53 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com mailto:cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: working very well. i would almost tend to say no more features to keep it fast I would agree :) Petr Vanek wrote: Rotation issue has already been reported. It takes a little while and refreshing the window by going to another apps window and bck seems to help. I'll have to experiment with it a bit - or set it as a post-restart kind of a config. Petr Vanek wrote: The show images doesn't work seems to me. It's a place holder for now. The webkit-efl port doesn't seem to expose the settings part. I'll try it directly with the webkit API. Petr Vanek wrote: Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet. A! I missed that. Petr Vanek wrote: Commandline url not accepted yet. Haven't added it yet. Soon. Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions. Need a name and icon too! Thanks. I'm trying it on shr-u but no way of getting it working r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser showing window Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'. Segmentation fault Where can I get it running? I think you choosed to use Evas Software X11 16 bit engine in SHR settings (section Appearence). elm-browser only runs with Software X11 engine. A simple solution is to edit the file /usr/share/applications/browser.desktop and to replace line: Exec=browser by Exec=ELM_ENGINE=x11 browser -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community THANKS! You're right! :p d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Feature suggestion: As eve it does not handle https pages... it would be great :) d (thanks, it's great by now) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: so... what do i do here? $ opkg install http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4397665/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4397665/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Installing browser (1.0-r0.4) to root... Installing libewebkit0 (1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4) to root... Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libewebkit0_1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4_armv4t.ipk Configuring openmoko-icon-theme-standard2 gtk-update-icon-cache: Failed to open file /usr/share/icons/openmoko-standard/.icon-theme.cache : File exists postinst script returned status 1 Collected errors: * Package libewebkit0 wants to install file /usr/share/webkit-1.0/resources/error.html But that file is already provided by package * libwebkit-1.0-2 * Cannot find package browser. * ERROR: openmoko-icon-theme-standard2.postinst returned 1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:40 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: so... what do i do here? $ opkg install http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4397665/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4397665/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Installing browser (1.0-r0.4) to root... Installing libewebkit0 (1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4) to root... Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libewebkit0_1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4_armv4t.ipk Configuring openmoko-icon-theme-standard2 gtk-update-icon-cache: Failed to open file /usr/share/icons/openmoko-standard/.icon-theme.cache : File exists postinst script returned status 1 Collected errors: * Package libewebkit0 wants to install file /usr/share/webkit-1.0/resources/error.html But that file is already provided by package * libwebkit-1.0-2 * Cannot find package browser. * ERROR: openmoko-icon-theme-standard2.postinst returned 1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community first i removed /usr/share/icons/openmoko-standard/.icon-theme.cache then if you have still the error * Package libewebkit0 wants to install file /usr/share/webkit-1.0/ resources/error.html But that file is already provided by package * libwebkit-1.0-2 try with the option -force-overwrite d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Davide Scaini wrote: Package libewebkit0 wants to install file /usr/share/webkit-1.0/ resources/error.html But that file is already provided by package * libwebkit-1.0-2 try with the option -force-overwrite Force overwrite helps overcome this. As far as https pages are concerned they work for me. I went through an old post by trevino about getting https pages working with webkit browsers [1]. Here's how :- 1. get the latest version of libcurl4 and curl-certs from angstrom. 2. install them 3. surf https pages. [1] http://n2.nabble.com/OE-Getting-the-curl-based-apps-Webkit-browsers-working-with-HTTPS-tp337ef1958.html Here's the proof :- http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4400179/Screenshot-1.png Screenshot-1.png -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-NEW-release-15-Jan-tp4357081p4400179.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Jesus H. Christ! did someone get basic flash functionality to work? http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/d05e30884775f3de217b5b8a359d2228.png ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Friday 15 January 2010, Bernd Prünster wrote: Jesus H. Christ! did someone get basic flash functionality to work? http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/d05e30884775f3de217b5b8a359d2228.png No flash involved. That's just squeezecenter with the nokia770 theme zoomed out one step whcih is why the images aren't as crisp as usual. It works well, although dropdown lists seem not to work on any site i've tried so far, including the zimbra web interface which seems to work fine in other respects. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: keep it lite OK. Petr Vanek wrote: toggle fullscreen Is it needed? I'm using the screen except for the illume slipshelf on top - and even that shows the page title. If I did do so (the page title tells you what you're browsing and is redundant in that sense) - how would I manage to do it in elementary. Petr Vanek wrote: rotate the screen (not X), hopefully performance will stay :) How do I do that in elementary? Petr Vanek wrote: possibility to stop loading Will add that under the menu. Petr Vanek wrote: toggle loading-displaying images Any ideas how webkit does that? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-initial-release-tp4357081p4391242.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser. Features * finger scrolling * double-click to zoom in * triple click to zoom out (not working as of now - help needed) * layout optimised for max viewing space The code is available at elm-browser.googlecode.com The ipk for shr-u is available at http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Feedback / feature requests are welcome. I don't know much about webkit/edje and hence need help with the following :- * Is there a bookmarking api in webkit ? * How do I make a webview transparent in webkit-efl ? * Evas triple click doesn't work. Any Ideas ? * Can and edje file alse provide signal callbacks if I use it through elementary layout ? Thanks and enjoy! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-initial-release-tp4357081p4357081.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community This is great. Please keep it light. We have been missing a decent browser for so long. Dillo is great but does not show all pages with success. Bookmarks would be great. regards, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Donnerstag 14 Januar 2010 09:00:27 schrieb c_c: Petr Vanek wrote: toggle loading-displaying images Any ideas how webkit does that? Don't know about ewebkit, but with webkit-gtk it's just setting settings = webkit_web_view_get_settings(WEBKIT_WEB_VIEW(web_view)); g_object_set ( settings, auto-load-images, active, NULL); webkit_web_view_set_settings (WEBKIT_WEB_VIEW(web_view), WEBKIT_WEB_SETTINGS (settings)); Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Feedback / feature requests are welcome. First of all: good stuff! Keep it up. If it's not already the case, it would be interesting to be able to modify the useragent identifying the browser engine and version. Probably from a config file. This helps a lot if you want to browse websites which are optimised for certain browsers on mobile devices. And as a general suggestion: keep it as simple and lightweight as possible. Niels. _ Windows 7: kijk live tv, rechtstreeks vanaf je laptop. Meer informatie. http://windows.microsoft.com/windows-7 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:24:23 +0300, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Michael Smith-5 wrote: If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of links. I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient. May be Eet enough ? Sqlite — +1 to deps, eet already in EFL. http://watchwolf.fr/blog/index.php?post/2009/09/27/Sqlite-versus-Eet ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 09:00, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: keep it lite OK. Petr Vanek wrote: toggle fullscreen Is it needed? I'm using the screen except for the illume slipshelf on top - and even that shows the page title. If I did do so (the page title tells you what you're browsing and is redundant in that sense) - how would I manage to do it in elementary. Petr Vanek wrote: rotate the screen (not X), hopefully performance will stay :) How do I do that in elementary? Petr Vanek wrote: possibility to stop loading Will add that under the menu. Petr Vanek wrote: toggle loading-displaying images Any ideas how webkit does that? Thanks. About how do i do that in elementary: elm_win_fullscreen_set IIRC. And for rotating: look at elementary_tests, it's there ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: About how do i do that in elementary: elm_win_fullscreen_set IIRC. And for rotating: look at elementary_tests, it's there ;) Well, here's another release. Changes :- * zoom out added to menu * stop loading page added to menu * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's weird though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way * ability to change user agent added (but not tested) http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4394197/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk As usual - feedback is welcome. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-initial-release-tp4357081p4394197.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Thursday 14 January 2010, c_c wrote: Hi, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: About how do i do that in elementary: elm_win_fullscreen_set IIRC. And for rotating: look at elementary_tests, it's there ;) Well, here's another release. Changes :- * zoom out added to menu * stop loading page added to menu * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's weird though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way * ability to change user agent added (but not tested) Very nice :-) Works well with the squeezeserver nokia770 theme when rotated. Mythweb is a little odd, but I've not looked into why. Dropdown lists don't seem to work so I can't select the mobile zimbra interface, but other than that the default interface seems to work! I see what you mean about the rotation being weird. It seems to need a restart after the orientation change before it occupies the correct area too. i could see the menu button after changing from portrait to landscape but it wouldn't function, and the render width didn't appear to have changed, leaving the old image of the buttons from the settings dialog on screen. Conversely when going from landscape to portrait the buttons were usable, but further from the bottom than expected, and the bottom portion of the screen wasn't being used. The first time I added a bookmark it segfaulted, but the bookmark was present when I restarted the browser. I haven't been able to reproduce this though, and the second bookmark added without problems. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4394197/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk I had to remove then reinstall before I got the new version. --force-reinstall left me with the old one. As usual - feedback is welcome. Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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* zoom out added to menu * stop loading page added to menu * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's weird though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way * ability to change user agent added (but not tested) working very well. i would almost tend to say no more features to keep it fast A few bugs: Rotation issue has already been reported. The show images doesn't work seems to me. Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet. Commandline url not accepted yet. thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: working very well. i would almost tend to say no more features to keep it fast I would agree :) Petr Vanek wrote: Rotation issue has already been reported. It takes a little while and refreshing the window by going to another apps window and bck seems to help. I'll have to experiment with it a bit - or set it as a post-restart kind of a config. Petr Vanek wrote: The show images doesn't work seems to me. It's a place holder for now. The webkit-efl port doesn't seem to expose the settings part. I'll try it directly with the webkit API. Petr Vanek wrote: Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet. A! I missed that. Petr Vanek wrote: Commandline url not accepted yet. Haven't added it yet. Soon. Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions. Need a name and icon too! Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-NEW-release-14-Jan-tp4357081p4396406.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
elm_browser initial release
Hi, Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser. Features * finger scrolling * double-click to zoom in * triple click to zoom out (not working as of now - help needed) * layout optimised for max viewing space The code is available at elm-browser.googlecode.com The ipk for shr-u is available at http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Feedback / feature requests are welcome. I don't know much about webkit/edje and hence need help with the following :- * Is there a bookmarking api in webkit ? * How do I make a webview transparent in webkit-efl ? * Evas triple click doesn't work. Any Ideas ? * Can and edje file alse provide signal callbacks if I use it through elementary layout ? Thanks and enjoy! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-initial-release-tp4357081p4357081.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser. thank you, this was really needed. startup is fast, response too. Features * finger scrolling * double-click to zoom in * triple click to zoom out (not working as of now - help needed) * layout optimised for max viewing space this is great, the transparent widgets help to be able to view a lot The code is available at elm-browser.googlecode.com it would be great to find a good name for it + icon and include it in shr, it beats midory in performance big time Thanks and enjoy! thank you! Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Mittwoch 13 Januar 2010 schrieb c_c: Features * finger scrolling * double-click to zoom in * triple click to zoom out (not working as of now - help needed) * layout optimised for max viewing space First impression is great! One question: How can I open a url while launching browser from a script or command line? If there is no such function, could you add a parameter for that? -- Lars Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology: There's always one more bug. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: it would be great to find a good name for it + icon and include it in shr, it beats midory in performance big time Any suggestions? For the name and icon? There shouldn't be much diff between midori and this browser since both use webkit. Midori has a lot of functionality that this browser doesn't - like bookmarks. OTOH, maybe this seems faster since it's lighter as of now. Lars Hennig-2 wrote: One question: How can I open a url while launching browser from a script or command line? If there is no such function, could you add a parameter for that? There isn't any such function yet. I'll add this today. Also, What are the bare essential features required of a browser on the FR? I'm looking for suggestions from the community - to see what to add. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-initial-release-tp4357081p4390243.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:18:17 -0800 (PST) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Also, What are the bare essential features required of a browser on the FR? I'm looking for suggestions from the community - to see what to add. Make it as light as possible. If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of links. Just make it browse pages. Using Midori yesterday I wished for the ability to specify the size of all text on all pages. Most of the text renders much too large to be usable for me. I don't normally need a traditional address field. URLs are better entered from a popup IMHO. Otherwise they are a waste of screen space. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Michael Smith-5 wrote: If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of links. I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient. I keep my bookmarks as a html page (firefox bookmarks.html) and browse to it to launch from. Maybe a similar list of html links on a local page as the startup page will be nice to launch from. Michael Smith-5 wrote: Most of the text renders much too large to be usable for me. Hmm. On this browser, I find the text relatively small. Hence the need to zoom the page. Michael Smith-5 wrote: I don't normally need a traditional address field. I agree. Do you feel comfortable with the current menu-url-url popup window? Thank you for your comments. I was also experimenting with the option to rotate the screen from the browser menu. Seems to work fine most of the time for me. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/elm-browser-initial-release-tp4357081p4390696.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:24:23 -0800 (PST) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Michael Smith-5 wrote: If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of links. I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient. I keep my bookmarks as a html page (firefox bookmarks.html) and browse to it to launch from. Maybe a similar list of html links on a local page as the startup page will be nice to launch from. Michael Smith-5 wrote: Most of the text renders much too large to be usable for me. Hmm. On this browser, I find the text relatively small. Hence the need to zoom the page. Michael Smith-5 wrote: I don't normally need a traditional address field. I agree. Do you feel comfortable with the current menu-url-url popup window? Thank you for your comments. I was also experimenting with the option to rotate the screen from the browser menu. Seems to work fine most of the time for me. Sorry I was talking generally about web browsers. I have tried to install elm_browser but I got these errors: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Installing browser (1.0-r0.4) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for browser: * libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05-0 (= 0.0.0+svnr44424) * edbus (= 0.5.0.060+svnr44424) * libdbus-1-3 (= 1.3.0) * libewebkit0 (= 0.1+gitr0+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472) * libgthread-2.0-0 (= 2.22.1) * libsqlite3-0 (= 3.6.20) * libxml2 (= 2.7.3) * libcurl4 (= 7.19.7) * libgnutls26 (= 2.4.2) * libgcrypt11 (= 1.4.1) * libstdc++6 (= 4.4.2) * libgcc1 (= 4.4.2) * libc6 (= 2.10) * libcairo2 (= 1.8.8) * libpixman-1-0 (= 0.17.3) * libpng12-0 (= 1.2.40) * libfribidi0 (= 0.19.2) * libeet1 (= 1.1.0+svnr44424) * libglib-2.0-0 (= 2.22.1) * I am running a version from October 10 2009 without subsequent updates. I assume that my problem is that I need to upgrade libraries. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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it would be great to find a good name for it + icon and include it in shr, it beats midory in performance big time Any suggestions? For the name and icon? There shouldn't be much diff between midori and this browser since both use webkit. Midori has a lot of functionality that this browser doesn't - like bookmarks. OTOH, maybe this seems faster since it's lighter as of now. it would be wise to keep it this way. midory takes over 20 seconds to launch on freerunner. as someone pointed - you often need that long to search for something. command line? If there is no such function, could you add a parameter for that? There isn't any such function yet. I'll add this today. :), need it too, to incorporate it into the system. Also, What are the bare essential features required of a browser on the keep it lite toggle fullscreen rotate the screen (not X), hopefully performance will stay possibility to stop loading toggle loading-displaying images fantastic job! ele-fant :) Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
