Sound problems under Debian
Hello I've just succeeded to install Debian on the Freerunner together with xfce4 following the instructions in http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian. Most things run fine and just as expected. There are, however, sound problems. The Wiki doesn't give any special instruction on sound, like installing a new alsa-package or building a kernel module. Can I have overlooked anything? 1. There seems to be no sound at all. 'aplay file.wav' just pretends to play but neither gives any output nor returns the cursor. 2. xfmedia doesn't start at all. An attempt to start the program from a shell, too, doesn't give any output or error message. 3. The ring tone is just a lousy noise. 4. During a phone call, voices are poorly transmitted (noisy), for me as well as for the recipient. Help would be very welcome. Everything is working alright under the default system. So, a hardware defect can be excluded. Thanks Sven pgp3vlIMPam8N.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Do others have sound on Debian?
Hello Since I got no answer to yesterdays question, I wonder if I'm the only one to have that problem. Do you others who run Debian on the Freerunner have sound? What have you done to get it working? Thanks for help Sven pgpHKmlEA2MGn.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do others have sound on Debian?
Hello Michele Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, you are not the only to have this problem. I have the same problem too. I am working in something to solve something else then I want to try to have a look on it. Thanks for the info. Good luck. Sven pgpIoFqs2rmTT.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
Hello I'm trying to make my first steps on qtopia on a Freerunner. Still I haven't found any user guide. The tutorial for users on the qtopia homepage is but a joke. Is there any tutorial or howto to configure qtopia on a Freerunner? So far, I could not even manage to get DNS over usb0. Thanks Sven pgpT8k8q1rW7F.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
Hello Tim Tim Erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any tutorial or howto to configure qtopia on a Freerunner? So far, I could not even manage to get DNS over usb0. Have you looked here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_on_FreeRunner Yes, of course. But the page doesn't say much beyond the installation process. But then the questions begin: How to get suspend working? How to install language packages? (The Wiki page mentions that English and German are supported out of the box, but the only option I have in the language settings is American.) Where to store music files so that the media player recognizes them? How to connect to the internet without plugging the phone into a desktop machine? What is possible on the Openmoko, what is not yet implemented? In the meantime I found out some of the questions by try and error. But there must be a handbook or something. Greetings Sven pgpkqGMZRdc2m.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
German for Qtopia
Hello I'm still struggling with qtopia (4.3.3-snapshot-09012242). In the language settings I have English (U.S.) as the only choice. According to the Wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_on_FreeRunner German should be shipped together with the image. But where? /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/etc/dict contains only the sub-folder en_US. So I think something is not installed. Can anybody explain how I can get a German localisation, incl. predictive keyboard? Thanks Sven pgpis8dGQHYWu.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where to store music files so that the media player recognizes them? /media/card . For me, that was the kernel partition, so I had little space to store songs. I suppose this could be solved editing /etc/fstab. Hm ... ls -l /media/card gives several input/output errors on my device. So I don't dare to copy files into that directory. Anyway, from where have you got this information? The installed help function says much about how to build and play a playlist etc. but nothing about how to introduce files to the player. Can a documentation be really so poor? I tend to think I'm missing something really obvious, which is clear to all others but me. I believe there must be some kind of handbook, maybe one that is shipped together with a device with a pre-installed Qtopia. But I cannot find anything like that. Greetings Sven pgpCBdxcwZpsU.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, from where have you got this information? From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media player. I think it's called try and error in english. I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system. Thanks for the info. I see the principle now. I was thinking Trolltech must have supplied some more information on their system. Greetings Sven pgptUCpSALnZ7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system. No, I hadn't. I think that has nothing to do with Qtopia. I think you should try to reformat your card. Where have you installed Qtopia? I did it in my card. I have installed Qtopia on the Flash while my microSD runs Debian. The latter is more important to me than Qtopia. Below is my output of 'ls -l /media/card'. Maybe it gives somebody a hint what's wrong here. I cannot make anything out of it. Greetings Sven , | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -l /media/card/ | ls: /media/card/?-?/.1 : No such file or directory | ls: /media/card/?m?o.q : Input/output error | ls: /media/card/? | �? | �.? | : Input/output error | ls: /media/card/.� : Input/output error | ls: /media/card/!aa.�: Input/output error | ls: /media/card/?-�/.1!: No such file or directory | ls: /media/card/a!caea.g�: Input/output error | ls: /media/card/?m�o.q!: Input/output error | ls: /media/card/?▒��▒�?! Input/output error | ls: /media/card/??�?.�!: Input/output error | ls: /media/card/?-?/#.1#: No such file or directory | ls: /media/card/?m?o'.q': Input/output error | ls: /media/card/?*�?*�+.?+: Input/output error | ls: /media/card/?.??.?/.�/: No such file or directory | ls: /media/card/#0c0c.0�: Input/output error | ls: /media/card/?2-?2/3.1#3: No such file or directory | ls: /media/card/a#4cc4ec.4g�: Input/output error | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root721592361 Aug 2 1999 ��? | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1645551938 Jan 17 1997 b b. � | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root2869600425 Jul 5 1927�� �� �.? � | ?.?xr-xr-x1 root root3943604457 Jul 9 1959 | -r-xr-xr-x1 root root722641193 Aug 18 1999 ��? | -r-xr-xr-x1 root root1796645225 Aug 22 2031 w�y�[.?] | -r-xr-xr-x1 root root2870649257 Jul 21 1927 �.?� | -r-xr-xr-x1 root root3944653289 Jul 25 1959 ?�?�?.?? | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root723690025 Sep 2 1999 !�!�!?! | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1797694057 Sep 6 2031 %w�%y�%[.?%] | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root2871698089 Aug 5 1927 )��)��)�.?)� | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root3945702121 Aug 9 1959 -?�-?�-?.?-? | -r-xr-xr-x1 root root724738857 Sep 18 1999 1�1�1?1 | -r-xr-xr-x1 root root1798742889 Sep 22 2031 5w�5y�5[.?5] | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1795596393 Aug 6 2031 ?w�y�[.?] | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1616184640 Feb 17 1996 a [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1649747266 Feb 17 1997 a$cb$eb.$g� | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root44032 Sep 3 00:40 qtopia_db.sqlite | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1800952 Aug 31 18:23 uImage.bin | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 128 Aug 31 18:23 version | -rwxr-xr-x1 root root1611989312 Jan 18 1996 ��� | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ` ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community pgpZ2DnJjxsug.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: German for Qtopia
Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cp the en_EN directory to _en_EN, mv en_EN to de_DE ln de_De to en_EN replace de_DE/words.dwag with: http://www.file-upload.net/download-1088244/words.dwag.html Wow. It's working. Thanks Sven pgpOt8XrMERAW.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee
Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /media/card/ and ~/Documents/ Ok. ~/Documents/ works. I tried it before, since this is quite obvious. But it didn't work at that time. I think one has to restart the Xserver before the files get scanned. Thanks Sven pgpcByrrCxm6S.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian fails to boot after some reboots
Hello I have installed Debian on my SD card already ten times or so. It's working alright for some time, but after a few days (i.e. after about 5-6 reboots) the system refuses to come up again. I usually run qtopia From my flash card most of the time and switch to Debian once or twice a day. At least I whish to. I installed Debian with a vfat boot partition using the SD_PART1_FS=vfat option. Error messages differ from time to time. As far as I can remember, I had a root file system not found the last time with a following kernel panic. This time the message says: , | Unable to use mmc 1:1 for fatload | Wrong Image format for bootm command | ERROR: Can't get kernel image ` After a second the boot manager appears again. What, the heck, can be the problem? Why does it work at first and what could have corrupted the system subsequently? Thanks for help Sven pgpCsikxh5Gnk.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian fails to boot after some reboots
Sander van Grieken [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are some workarounds that seem to prevent this from happening, but I don't know whether they apply to Qtopia. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 Yes this applies to all distributions. Thanks to you both. I will give it a try immediately. Greetings Sven pgpAFwZ84NXKg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian fails to boot after some reboots
Hi list-members Craig B. Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are some workarounds that seem to prevent this from happening, but I don't know whether they apply to Qtopia. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 Strange enough Qtopia seems to know that suspending is not good for the SD-card. I don't know why, but every time I have a working Debian system on the SD card, Qtopia refuses to suspend automatically (i.e. the powermanagement settings are ignored). After I forced the first suspend by 'apm -s', everything works like normal again. But then, the SD card's boot partition is corrupted. I tried the workaround with the 00sd_idleclk script which doesn't work for me. Qtopia won't wake up again, and I have to remove the battery. There is another workaround mentioned in ticket 1802: automatically repairing the boot partition by a 'dd' command which is placed in /etc/init.d/mountall.sh. This one works as expected. It's just a little clumsy to have that command inside an init script, since one has to reboot qtopia before one can boot the SD card. It would be better to have that command executed with every shutdown of Qtopia. I'm not familiar with init and shutdown scripts. Can anybody give me a hint, where to place that command (or a shell script) in order to execute it automatically prior to every shutdown? If it works, I will add that solution to the ticket's commentaries. Thanks Sven pgpitfF8j79at.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian fails to boot after some reboots
Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but every time I have a working Debian system on the SD card, Qtopia refuses to suspend automatically (i.e. the powermanagement settings are ignored). After I forced the first suspend by 'apm -s', everything works like normal again. But then, the SD card's boot partition is corrupted. I guess what happens is that Qtopia starts scanning all the files on the SD card. It is designed to be run from internal flash with your MP3s on the SD card, so it scans all the files there and makes a database of them. With a Debian system on SD, this probably takes hours, and during that Qtopia probably refuses to suspend. You can turn this feature off in a file called Storage.conf lying around somewhere, IIRC. Ah, very interesting. I will try if this can be the case. But I deleted the entry for the SD card from inittab. However, maybe that is no safe way to make the card inaccessible to Qtopia. Thanks Sven pgpENEWHkZU4y.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Still no resume
Hello list No matter what I'm doing, Debian won't wake up from suspend. I have installed a recent FSO3 kernel, I tested both sd_idleclk scripts mentioned at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian. The first script ends with the command touch /home/root/.profile. When I reboot my phone after an unsuccessful suspend (and after removing the battery), this file still contains an old time-stamp. So I think the script was not executed before the suspend, i.e. idle-clock was not started. I placed it, as described, in /etc/apm/suspend.d/00sd_idleclk and made it executable. What can still be wrong? Thanks for help Sven pgpMIones1udC.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Still no resume
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suspend is broken again in the latest fso kernels. But with the latest openmoko kernel suspend works. But zhone is reacting a bit weird after resuming. ;) You are right. It's working now. Thank you very much. Greetings Sven pgpTAyj2c73VR.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Emacs for Om2008
Hello Does anybody know about a working Emacs package for Om2008.x? It is mentioned several times in the www but I couldn't find a package. Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emacs for Om2008
Hello gnu...@no-log.org writes: How about a pakcage for http://www.jedsoft.org/jed/ which is more lightweight? My main task is to take the advantages of the brilliant org-mode to use the FR as a PDA. I don't believe that jed can handle this. Can it? org.openembedded.dev/packages $ find ./ | grep -i jed returns nothing... so you may have to add it if you want it but if I remember well in in om2008 you have vim... but I'd like to have emacs too I have installed emacs from the Angstroem repository in the meantime. There are unresolved dependencies and it seems to have the wrong architecture, but it worked for a while (in a terminal). Now, I rebooted the OM to find that Emacs won't start up any longer. Greetings Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emacs for Om2008
Hello Scott SCarlson scottrcarl...@gmail.com writes: opkg install coreutils binutils gcc make cpp python-devel python-setuptools cpp-symlinks gcc-symlinks libc6-dev Thanks for the information. I will try it and send my results and questions to the list. Is it the official stable Emacs 22 or a CVS version? How long did it take to compile? Greetings Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om 2008.12] qtopia-Keyboard still keeps annoying me
Hello I followed the Howto in the Openmoko-Wiki to replace the qtopia-kbd by the Illume kbd. QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 is set. But the qtopia-kbd still pops up from time to time on the first virtual desktop and stays there for good (it cannot be popped-down by the qwerty-Symbol). On the other desktops the Illume kbd works, but the qtopia-kbd leaves annoying graphical traces when switching to another desktop (a horizontal bar across the display showing the silly predictive suggestions). Also, when Enlightenment is restarted after a crash, the qtopia-kbd automatically replaces the Raster's till the next reboot. Is there any way to prevent the interfering qtopia-kbd more forcefully? Can it be safely deinstalled for ever? Thanks for help Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call for Illume keyboards and keyboard icons
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes: aah cool. hindi and tamil don't have spaces either? They have spaces. Greetings Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Emacs for Om2008
Dear Scott In the meantime I shifted to Debian on the Openmoko. In Debian Emacs just works fine. Thanks for your help. Sven SCarlson scottrcarl...@gmail.com writes: I compiled Emacs with my phone because of the issues with cross-compiling. I had to install opkg install coreutils binutils gcc make cpp python-devel python-setuptools cpp-symlinks gcc-symlinks libc6-dev on my phone. It took a long time, and I am sure there may have been the occasion work around. Other than that. You need to install it to the sd drive as i is huge. I am sure i've forgotten a detail or two.. let me know if I can help further. (I remember it being a smooth process, just long compile time). Scott Sven Bretfeld wrote: Hello Does anybody know about a working Emacs package for Om2008.x? It is mentioned several times in the www but I couldn't find a package. Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sven Bretfeld CERES -- CEntrum für REligionswissenschaftliche Studien Ruhr-Universität Bochum Universitätsstraße 150 D-44780 Bochum ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Word processing application
Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Also, is there emacs package for Freerunner available? Emacs can be installed from one of the user-repositories mentioned at the openmoko website. I cannot remember which one. But it worked only with problems on my device. Sometimes it didn't start at all, not even in a shell. I would recommend to install Debian on the SD card [¹]. In Debian you can install everything including Abiword and Emacs. I even had LaTeX installed on my OM. Greetings Sven [¹] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner. -- Sven Bretfeld CERES -- CEntrum für REligionswissenschaftliche Studien Ruhr-Universität Bochum Universitätsstraße 150 D-44780 Bochum ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
