Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

[94cm4n .]

Dear AFRInIC Staff,
Can you please provide us the list of all the mentors used during the last
Afrinic meeting?

Thanks.
Jehovahseun

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, 1:30 PM ,  wrote:

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>  correction : the meeting was from 26 to 30 November 2018
>  excuse me
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> Best regards
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> Le jeu. 4 juil. 2019 ? 13:22, SOUAD ABIDI  a ?crit :
>
> > @Taiwo
> >
> > As an afriNIC29 fellow in Tunisia, I would like to make an input:
> >
> > We , as  fellows, have been given the policies doc(which is  a public doc
> > )  2 weeks before the meeting  in Tunisia : 28-30 Nov 2018 .
> >
> > Kindly find attached :
> >
> > --The screen short of the email (sent Nov 14th)
> > --The doc you asked for
> >
> > Talking as an afriNIC 29 fellow , but I believe it's the same process
> > adopted for all the meetings.
> >
> > Best regards.
> > Souad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Le mer. 3 juil. 2019 ? 22:07, aleruchi chuku via RPD  a
> > ?crit :
> >
> >> Hello Helen
> >> I think the issue Taiwo is emphasizing on is educating the New comers
> who
> >> are not fortunate to be "Afrinic Fellows".
> >>
> >> Aleruchi
> >>
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >> 
> >>
> >> On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 7:36 pm, hkari...@isoc.or.ke
> >>  wrote:
> >> Taiwo,
> >> I am a first time Afrinic 30 fellow and attended the last AIS meeting in
> >> Kampala and therefore by extension an Afrinic Alumni. I can confirm that
> >> we were given summary and links to the policies before the meeting. We
> >> also had a webinar before the meeting and materials emailed to us and
> >> onsite discussions and after we join the mailing lists to continue
> >> learning and contributing to policy discussions.
> >> Regards,
> >> Hellen
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2019-07-02 16:25, Taiwo Oyewande wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Taking a good look at this resource, it is obviously a summary of the
> >> > policies to be discussed.
> >> >
> >> > Larus fellowship tends towards promoting the youth - students
> >> > included-. I think this summary will be a good starting point for new
> >> > members who are fresh in the policy development process.
> >> >
> >> > On this note, i will like to encourage Afrinic to emulate the
> >> > foundation and come up with an official summary like this before every
> >> > meeting to enable new and interested members get up to speed quickly.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers.
> >> >
> >> > Taiwo O
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 20:36, Andrew Alston
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Wafa,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So ? let me say this.  I see a document here ? which lays out
> >> >>> the policies ? and provides a perspective of problems, it also
> >> >>> lists the pros and cons.  Yes, Lazarus may have used the
> >> >>> foundation to lobby for its position, but ? one of the things
> >> >>> that I have long accepted in my life is ? if you believe in
> >> >>> something ? you have to lobby for it ? and to be frank ? the
> >> >>> summary that I see in this document ? is something that by and
> >> >>> large ? should have been done long before they got around to it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If I, as an individual, feel strongly about something, I am
> >> >>> entirely free to go and advocate for my position.  I am also
> >> >>> entirely free to sponsor people to come to a public meeting ?
> >> >>> and I am entirely free to choose those people as I so wish, if I
> >> >>> choose the people who agree with me, well, that?s life ? but
> >> >>> it certainly aint against the rules, it is the political nature of
> >> >>> internet policy development.  Do you think that similar does not
> >> >>> happen elsewhere?  People lobby for the positions that they care
> >> >>> about.  It happens in politics, it happens in life, and yet now we
> >> >>> want to cry when someone else does the same thing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Let me also say ? it?s not like this hasn?t been happening
> >> >>> before ? and I want to quote from the OIF website: _IOF
> >> >>> 

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

[94cm4n .]

Sorry I meant to post to the community-discuss.

Jehovahseun

On Wed, 3 Jul 2019, 9:18 PM 94cm4n .,  wrote:

>
> Dear Caleb,
> I think Taiwo decided not to respond to you cos just like your questions
> to all the PDP chair candidates in Kampala (in which none of them responded
> too),it does not worth a reply. However i think I can dignify you with a
> response so that you don't think too much as to why people don't respond to
> you and start thinking too much of the fact that it seams you live in
> another planet.
> First of all, you don't work for Afrinic and not the spokespersons for
> AFRINIC.
> Secondly, Taiwo didn't talk about the fellows and you went off point.
> Third, you did not include that fact that  some of the mentors appointed
> by AFRInIC are authors of policies and they used the  fellows to push their
> polices and agenda. Then you never included the fact that Afrinic fellows
> via the whataps group were told to vote for a particular Candidate as the
> PDP chair.
> @ Heleen and other fellows? is this not True.
> AFRINIC fellows were used  by some to achieve thier aim. There is a
> serious need to review how fellows emerge and the criteria used in
> appointing mentors( A story for another day). Some candidates were provided
> access to the candidates for the PDP chair  under guise of being an ex
> fellow. Anyway don't let me digress too much the discussion here is about
> WAFA's conduct and we leave other issues for another day.
>
> Regards
> Jehovahseun
>
> On Wed, 3 Jul 2019, 8:56 PM ,  wrote:
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>> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 20:21:54 +0100
>> From: Taiwo Oyewande 
>> To: hkari...@isoc.or.ke
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>> @hellen.
>>
>> Thank you for you insight. Please can you attach a copy of the summary
>> given to you to help new intakes get up to speed. - this is what I
>> encourage and hope AFRINIC can give to new comers and hopefully distribute
>> in the new comers session- .
>>
>> @ caleb
>> ..
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 3 Jul 2019, at 19:35, hkari...@isoc.or.ke wrote:
>> >
>> > Taiwo,
>> > I am a first time Afrinic 30 fellow and attended the last AIS meeting
>> in Kampala and therefore by extension an Afrinic Alumni. I can confirm that
>> we were given summary and links to the policies before the meeting. We also
>> had a webinar before the meeting and materials emailed to us and onsite
>> discussions and after we join the mailing lists to continue learning and
>> contributing to policy discussions.
>> > Regards,
>> > Hellen
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 2019-07-02 16:25, Taiwo Oyewande wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> Taking a good look at this resource, it is obviously a summary of the
>> >> policies to be discussed.
>> >> Larus fellowship tends towards promoting the youth - students
>> >> included-. I think this summary will be a good starting point for new
>> >> members who are fresh in the policy development process.
>> >> On this note, i will like to encourage Afrinic to emulate the
>> >> foundation and come up with an official summary like this before every
>> >> meeting to enable new and interested members get up to speed quickly.
>> >> Cheers.
>> >> Taiwo O
>> >>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 20:36, Andrew Alston
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>>> Wafa,
>> >>>> So ? let me say this.  I see a document here ? which lays out
>> >>>> the policies ? and provides a perspective of problems, it also
>> >