Re: [computer-go] Test position set for MC programs

2008-04-26 Thread Eric Boesch
Huh is right. You wrote C2 C1 and so did I, but I somehow did so
while looking at C1 C2. I'm not sure how I managed that myself.

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Gunnar Farnebäck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Huh? A seki doesn't get much more basic than this.

   4 X X X X X . X . X 4
   3 . O O O O X X O . 3
   2 O O O . O O X . . 2
   1 . X X X O X X . . 1
A B C D E F G H J

  /Gunnar


  Eric Boesch wrote:
   Black doesn't need the lower-right corner as territory after killing
   the lower left.  After B B1 W C2 B C1 W H3 B G3, w gains about 7
   points in the lower right but has already lost like 31 in the lower
   left, and black wins by 15. Either I'm missing something obvious, or
   you overlooked that the lower left is not a seki, or something like
   that.
  
   On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Gunnar Farnebäck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Yamato wrote:
 I attached the fixed version to this email. Thanks for your help.
  
Another correction. In 119 black has a serious weakness on the right.
Is there any way for black to win after B B1, W C2, B C1, W H3?

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Re: [computer-go] Test position set for MC programs

2008-04-26 Thread Gunnar Farnebäck

David Fotland wrote:
 Another alternate move.  On problem 108 it seems that a2 works, 
although it

 looks inferior.
 A2, a3, g1, h1, a4, and if white cuts at b4, black captures and white 
has no

 ko threats.
 If white doesn’t answer at h1, black can live in the corner and white 
can’t

 live on the left.

 Gunnar, does this look correct?

Yes, and I get the same score as with A3, so it's not even inferior,
only more complicated. With the given komi it's also possible to play
A2, A3, A4 directly without the G1, H1 exchange but this is inferior
in points.

/Gunnar
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