The difference between ManyFaces blitz and slow is also a lovely gem of
information. A quick check shows both accounts are playing a lot of
I have a data about this.
AyaMC4 and AyaMC play on same condition, but it is not for human.
AyaMC4 is blitz.
Human is about 1 rank weaker in blitz.
Hi Hiroshi,
That is interesting; can I just check I've not misunderstood? You are
saying that humans play about 1 rank (more precisely, 0.7 ranks) weaker
when playing blitz against a fixed strength opponent?
Going back to the Many Faces blitz (1.8d) and slow (0.6d), suggests that
ManyFaces playing blitz against a human playing at slow time levels
would be 1.8d - 0.7 = 1.1d. I.e. ManyFaces *loses* half a rank by
thinking more :-)
That is unlikely to be the case, implying people lose more strength
playing blitz? In the Aya experiment I wonder if people playing slowly
against a fast opponent tend to speed up and not use all their thinking
time?
Darren
P.S. Using your last year's data, the difference is 1.2 ranks, which
exactly matches the ManyFaces data, but still suggests ManyFaces gets no
benefit from thinking more.
AyaMC4 1k (0.1k) 10sec/mov (8cores) 1minute + 15sec byoyomi (x10)
AyaMC 1k (0.8k) 10sec/mov (8cores) 10minutes + 30sec byoyomi (x5)
AyaMC2 3k (2.6k) 1 playouts 10minutes + 30sec byoyomi (x5)
AyaBot2 4k (3.6k) 5000 playouts 10minutes + 30sec byoyomi (x5)
AyaBot4 5k (4.6k) 5000 playouts 10minutes + 30sec byoyomi (x5)
These are last year's data,
AyaMC4 2k (1.4k) 10sec/mov (8cores) 1minute + 15sec byoyomi (x10)
AyaMC 3k (2.6k) 10sec/mov (8cores) 10minutes + 30sec byoyomi (x5)
(about 16 playouts/mov)
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