Re: [Computer-go] [Wvgc-go] ADMIN: Lists Have Moved

2017-01-26 Thread Sighris
 Sorry for the chopped up (multi-send) email(s)...

I  wrote:

> Michael,
> Thanks for your time / work on this computer-go email list and.
>
...WELCOME to the west/left-coast and California.
I moved here (LA CA) in 2001 (from Chicago) and fell in love with the
weather; although I hope to move a little north someday, maybe the San Jose
or Santa Cruz or Sequoia National Park area.

I hope to meet you (all of the computer-go people actually) IRL someday.

Best regards,
Cyris Sargon (aka Sighris on the 'net)
Los Angeles CA USA Earth


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>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:18 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for your patience.
>> Everything should be the same, the archives,
>> addresses you send new posts to, the location of
>> listonfo and archives, and memberships and the passwords you were given
>> when you subscribed.
>> The IP has changed, and it is running as
>> a virtual host.  These will affect the headers
>> of the emails and subscriber clients may handle
>> things in a different way.  E.G. much of this
>> thread ended up in the spam folder of one of
>> m subscribed accounts.
>> It will take a few days (probably)
>> to suss it all out.  Hopefully it can all
>> be done at the server.
>> Transit times are different.  It was
>> on the east coast USA, now on the west coast
>> in San Francisco.
>> I'll post on progress or lack thereof
>> as things settle in.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Michael
>>
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Re: [Computer-go] [Wvgc-go] ADMIN: Lists Have Moved

2017-01-26 Thread Sighris
> Michael,
> Thanks for your time / work on this computer-go email list and...
>





>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:18 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for your patience.
>> Everything should be the same, the archives,
>> addresses you send new posts to, the location of
>> listonfo and archives, and memberships and the passwords you were given
>> when you subscribed.
>> The IP has changed, and it is running as
>> a virtual host.  These will affect the headers
>> of the emails and subscriber clients may handle
>> things in a different way.  E.G. much of this
>> thread ended up in the spam folder of one of
>> m subscribed accounts.
>> It will take a few days (probably)
>> to suss it all out.  Hopefully it can all
>> be done at the server.
>> Transit times are different.  It was
>> on the east coast USA, now on the west coast
>> in San Francisco.
>> I'll post on progress or lack thereof
>> as things settle in.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Michael
>>
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Re: [Computer-go] [Wvgc-go] ADMIN: Lists Have Moved

2017-01-26 Thread Sighris
Michael,
Thanks for your time / work on this computer-go email list and


On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:18 AM,  wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks for your patience.
> Everything should be the same, the archives,
> addresses you send new posts to, the location of
> listonfo and archives, and memberships and the passwords you were given
> when you subscribed.
> The IP has changed, and it is running as
> a virtual host.  These will affect the headers
> of the emails and subscriber clients may handle
> things in a different way.  E.G. much of this
> thread ended up in the spam folder of one of
> m subscribed accounts.
> It will take a few days (probably)
> to suss it all out.  Hopefully it can all
> be done at the server.
> Transit times are different.  It was
> on the east coast USA, now on the west coast
> in San Francisco.
> I'll post on progress or lack thereof
> as things settle in.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Michael
>
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Re: [Computer-go] How is zen so strong on CGOS?

2017-01-26 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita

Hideki said Zen has used policy network since ver 10.5, and
value network since ver 12.1.
Maybe value network is very effective.

Thanks,
Hiroshi Yamashita


- Original Message - 
From: "Detlef Schmicker" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 11:53 PM
Subject: [Computer-go] How is zen so strong on CGOS?



Hi,

I'd like to start a discussion on what zen might do being so strong on
CGOS with only one core and no graphic card :)

The version actual playing (and therefore best comparable to the
programs actual playing) is

Rank Name Elo + − Games
12 Zen-13.5-1c0g 3639 48 48 569
16 Aya792p2v2cn50_12t 3558 46 46 476
24 Rn.3.3-4c 3459 34 34 918
26 No335-4.5-gpu-4c 3438 115 115 112
29 CGI1407_1_475_7c 3399 73 73 142
53 CrazyStone-0002 3239 114 114 141
54 NG-05 3235 67 67 228



No335 is probably Hirabot
NG is oakfoam
from crazystone I dont know, if this version uses gpu
Rn is probably ray

All but Zen use gpu and so have probably about 300 policy network calls
per second.

Zen does this on cpu and I got Hideki to let me know, that this can do
only about 20 calls per second :)

It might be that zen uses cnn only in the upper nodes and relies on the
faster node generation zen used before cnn for deeper nodes?

I can not believe, that the policy network is so much stronger than the
ones of all the others?!


Any ideas


Detlef
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