Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 Handicap Stones
Wow! Tysvm for the explicit _online_ game record. White was FineArt. And Ke Jie, even granted a two stone handicap, lost in a reading contest in a life/death struggle between two groups leading to the resignation by move 78. That's astounding! Namaste, Jim O'Flaherty Founder/CEO QA Locate <http://www.qalocate.com/> • Irving, TX, USA 469-358-0633 <4693580633> • jim.oflaherty...@gmail.com • www.linkedin.com/in/jimoflahertyjr CONFIDENTIALITY / PROPRIETARY NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail, including any attachment(s), is confidential information for QA Locate (a DBA of Precision Location Intelligence, Inc.). As such, it may be privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or if you received this message in error, then any direct or indirect disclosure, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify QA Locate by calling (214) 489-7779 <2144897779> immediately and by sending a return e-mail; delete this message; and destroy all copies, including attachments. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Steven Clark <steven.p.cl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not according to this: http://eidogo.com/#EUexCx07 > via reddit > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Jim O'Flaherty < > jim.oflaherty...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So the AI FineArt is assumed to have taken black with a two stone >> handicap? >> >> On Jan 21, 2018 9:41 AM, "Michael Alford" <m...@aracnet.com> wrote: >> >>> This is the problem we had with the link to the IGF article. The sense >>> we made of the statement attributed to Ke Jie was he can't give FineArt h2 >>> because it is as strong as he is. Thanks, Ingo, for the iink to the >>> forum. I have the games and will share them. >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> On 1/21/18 6:22 AM, Jim O'Flaherty wrote: >>> >>> It's unclear to me who played black with the two handicap stones. Ke >>> Jie or FineArt? >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2018 1:56 AM, Ingo Althöfer <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> wrote: >>> >>>> Stefan Kaitschick posted this in the German computer go forun: >>>> http://www.dgob.de/yabbse/index.php?topic=6728.msg215694#msg215694 >>>> >>>> His text roughly translated to English: >>>> > I downloaded FineArt free 2 stone games. >>>> > At least the game of Ke Jies is included. >>>> > Perhaps this is (essentially) the collection. >>>> > You have to rename the downloaded file to new ending .zip >>>> >>>> Hope this helps, Ingo. >>>> >>>> >>>> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Januar 2018 um 05:49 Uhr >>>> > Von: "Michael Alford" <m...@aracnet.com> >>>> > An: computer-go@computer-go.org >>>> > Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with >>>> 2 Handicap Stones >>>> > >>>> > Could someone make sgf's of these games available? >>>> ___ >>>> Computer-go mailing list >>>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Computer-go mailing >>> listComputer-go@computer-go.orghttp://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Computer-go mailing list >>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >>> >> >> ___ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 Handicap Stones
Not according to this: http://eidogo.com/#EUexCx07 via reddit On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Jim O'Flaherty <jim.oflaherty...@gmail.com > wrote: > So the AI FineArt is assumed to have taken black with a two stone handicap? > > On Jan 21, 2018 9:41 AM, "Michael Alford" <m...@aracnet.com> wrote: > >> This is the problem we had with the link to the IGF article. The sense >> we made of the statement attributed to Ke Jie was he can't give FineArt h2 >> because it is as strong as he is. Thanks, Ingo, for the iink to the >> forum. I have the games and will share them. >> >> Michael >> >> On 1/21/18 6:22 AM, Jim O'Flaherty wrote: >> >> It's unclear to me who played black with the two handicap stones. Ke Jie >> or FineArt? >> >> On Jan 21, 2018 1:56 AM, Ingo Althöfer <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >>> Stefan Kaitschick posted this in the German computer go forun: >>> http://www.dgob.de/yabbse/index.php?topic=6728.msg215694#msg215694 >>> >>> His text roughly translated to English: >>> > I downloaded FineArt free 2 stone games. >>> > At least the game of Ke Jies is included. >>> > Perhaps this is (essentially) the collection. >>> > You have to rename the downloaded file to new ending .zip >>> >>> Hope this helps, Ingo. >>> >>> >>> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Januar 2018 um 05:49 Uhr >>> > Von: "Michael Alford" <m...@aracnet.com> >>> > An: computer-go@computer-go.org >>> > Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 >>> Handicap Stones >>> > >>> > Could someone make sgf's of these games available? >>> ___ >>> Computer-go mailing list >>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> >> >> >> ___ >> Computer-go mailing >> listComputer-go@computer-go.orghttp://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> >> >> >> ___ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 Handicap Stones
So the AI FineArt is assumed to have taken black with a two stone handicap? On Jan 21, 2018 9:41 AM, "Michael Alford" <m...@aracnet.com> wrote: > This is the problem we had with the link to the IGF article. The sense we > made of the statement attributed to Ke Jie was he can't give FineArt h2 > because it is as strong as he is. Thanks, Ingo, for the iink to the > forum. I have the games and will share them. > > Michael > > On 1/21/18 6:22 AM, Jim O'Flaherty wrote: > > It's unclear to me who played black with the two handicap stones. Ke Jie > or FineArt? > > On Jan 21, 2018 1:56 AM, Ingo Althöfer <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> wrote: > >> Stefan Kaitschick posted this in the German computer go forun: >> http://www.dgob.de/yabbse/index.php?topic=6728.msg215694#msg215694 >> >> His text roughly translated to English: >> > I downloaded FineArt free 2 stone games. >> > At least the game of Ke Jies is included. >> > Perhaps this is (essentially) the collection. >> > You have to rename the downloaded file to new ending .zip >> >> Hope this helps, Ingo. >> >> >> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Januar 2018 um 05:49 Uhr >> > Von: "Michael Alford" <m...@aracnet.com> >> > An: computer-go@computer-go.org >> > Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 >> Handicap Stones >> > >> > Could someone make sgf's of these games available? >> ___ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > ___ > Computer-go mailing > listComputer-go@computer-go.orghttp://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > ___ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 Handicap Stones
You have to edit every game record as follow: (1) add CA[utf-8] and (2) divide the value of KM[] by 100, ie, change from KM[650] to KM[6.5]. Hideki Ingo Althofer: <trinity-b395fe14-84ed-439e-bad8-51bcc5c4657f-1516520823075@3c-app-gmx-bs75>: >Stefan Kaitschick posted this in the German computer go forun: >http://www.dgob.de/yabbse/index.php?topic=6728.msg215694#msg215694 > >His text roughly translated to English: >> I downloaded FineArt free 2 stone games. >> At least the game of Ke Jies is included. >> Perhaps this is (essentially) the collection. >> You have to rename the downloaded file to new ending .zip > >Hope this helps, Ingo. > > >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Januar 2018 um 05:49 Uhr >> Von: "Michael Alford" <m...@aracnet.com> >> An: computer-go@computer-go.org >> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 >Handicap Stones >> >> Could someone make sgf's of these games available? >___ >Computer-go mailing list >Computer-go@computer-go.org >http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Hideki Kato <mailto:hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp> ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 Handicap Stones
This is the problem we had with the link to the IGF article. The sense
we made of the statement attributed to Ke Jie was he can't give FineArt
h2 because it is as strong as he is. Thanks, Ingo, for the iink to the
forum. I have the games and will share them.
Michael
On 1/21/18 6:22 AM, Jim O'Flaherty wrote:
It's unclear to me who played black with the two handicap stones. Ke
Jie or FineArt?
On Jan 21, 2018 1:56 AM, Ingo Althöfer <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de
<mailto:3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de>> wrote:
Stefan Kaitschick posted this in the German computer go forun:
http://www.dgob.de/yabbse/index.php?topic=6728.msg215694#msg215694
<http://www.dgob.de/yabbse/index.php?topic=6728.msg215694#msg215694>
His text roughly translated to English:
> I downloaded FineArt free 2 stone games.
> At least the game of Ke Jies is included.
> Perhaps this is (essentially) the collection.
> You have to rename the downloaded file to new ending .zip
Hope this helps, Ingo.
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Januar 2018 um 05:49 Uhr
> Von: "Michael Alford" <m...@aracnet.com <mailto:m...@aracnet.com>>
> An: computer-go@computer-go.org <mailto:computer-go@computer-go.org>
> Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie
with 2 Handicap Stones
>
> Could someone make sgf's of these games available?
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Re: [Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 Handicap Stones
Could someone make sgf's of these games available? On 1/19/18 10:50 PM, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote: Hello in the round, it seems that Chinese company Tencent with their Go project FineArt has achieved a fantastic breakthrough: According to the website of the International Go Federation the new version of FineArt has played 34 handicap games against pro players, winning 30 of the games. Special achievement: One of the human opponents was human superstar Ke Jie (9p). He resigned his game after 77 moves. http://www.intergofed.org/igf-news-feed/two-stones-fineart-defeated-ke-jie-9p-after-giving-two-stones-handicap.html Ingo. PS. Perhaps Tencent is willing to give Deepmind a match on equal terms (between FineArt and AlphaGo), when AlphaGo also has beaten Ke Jie (or some other top player) with handicap stones. PS-2. It might be interesting to see if a team FineArt/DeepZen/AlphaGo would beat a top human trio (like KeJie/LeeSedol/Iyama) in "RenGo", giving handicap. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
[Computer-go] Breakthrough: FineArt beating Ke Jie with 2 Handicap Stones
Hello in the round, it seems that Chinese company Tencent with their Go project FineArt has achieved a fantastic breakthrough: According to the website of the International Go Federation the new version of FineArt has played 34 handicap games against pro players, winning 30 of the games. Special achievement: One of the human opponents was human superstar Ke Jie (9p). He resigned his game after 77 moves. http://www.intergofed.org/igf-news-feed/two-stones-fineart-defeated-ke-jie-9p-after-giving-two-stones-handicap.html Ingo. PS. Perhaps Tencent is willing to give Deepmind a match on equal terms (between FineArt and AlphaGo), when AlphaGo also has beaten Ke Jie (or some other top player) with handicap stones. PS-2. It might be interesting to see if a team FineArt/DeepZen/AlphaGo would beat a top human trio (like KeJie/LeeSedol/Iyama) in "RenGo", giving handicap. ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
