Re: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS
Brian, I hope some people here will help you because I am limited in my ability to help with windows - I just know that it does work and there are bunch of windows go program running on cgos. I'll answer what I can here. You don't need an account. Just make up a name and a password less than 18 character (I think, or is it 16?) The first time you successfully log on to cgos, your name will be associated with your password so that nobody else will accidental use the same name. That's the only purpose for having the password.The name is what appears on the CGOS page and uniquely identifies your program. So you will need to make sure it's not the same name as another program. Also, I think you will have better success using the tclkit designed for the console, you are trying to use the TK version, which is for creating nice GUI applications and this is not a GUI.So find a tclkit for your platform called something like tclsh or similar. I have heard that the TK version can work, but I had trouble with it when I tried to make it work on my wife's windows computer as a test. If it runs in gogui, I'm pretty sure CGOS is covered. I tried to limit myself to the minimal subset of gtp commands so that it would work on CGOS with minimal problems from the GTP end of things. Beyond this, I think there will be people here who run windows and will be happy to help you get this working. If someone is willing to document well what windows users need to do, as well as what the pitfalls are, I would be happy to add a section to the web page to make this whole process easier for windows users.I think it's easier for unix because I basically designed it on a linux system and thus windows users suffer needlessly. - Don -Original Message- From: Brian Sheppard sheppar...@aol.com Reply-To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:14:00 -0400 I am having trouble connecting to CGOS. I have Windows/Vista, and I am trying to follow the instructions on page http://cgos.boardspace.net/. First: after downloading a tclkit from www.equi4.com, I renamed the executable as tcl.exe, and then ran it. This produced something like a Unix shell window. I presume that I am supposed to run the cgos script in there. Is that right? Second: the instructions imply that if I just run the script then I will get something self-explanatory. But when I do so it only works to a point: (Pebbles) 1 % cgosGtp.exe cgosGtp 0.98 alpha - engine client for CGOS Windows-x86 by Don Dailey Usage: C:/Users/Brian/DOCUME~1/Go/Pebbles/cgosGtp.exe/main.tcl -c CONFIG_FILE -k KILL_FILE -p PLAYER_FIRST -s -c specified name of config file - this is MANDATORY -k sepcifies a file to create which will stop client after current game -p specifies which player plays first game -s display a sample configuration file to stdout and exit Now I should try the -s option, right? So I do, and I get the same response: (Pebbles) 1 % cgosGtp.exe -s cgosGtp 0.98 alpha - engine client for CGOS Windows-x86 by Don Dailey Usage: C:/Users/Brian/DOCUME~1/Go/Pebbles/cgosGtp.exe/main.tcl -c CONFIG_FILE -k KILL_FILE -p PLAYER_FIRST -s -c specified name of config file - this is MANDATORY -k sepcifies a file to create which will stop client after current game -p specifies which player plays first game -s display a sample configuration file to stdout and exit Third: I dug through archives and found what I thought might be a valid configuration file. Its contents are shown below: # config file for testing various version of Pebbles # %section server server cgos.boardspace.net port 6867 %section player name Pebbles password mypwd invoke../Release/Pebbles.exe priority 1 Now I really am not sure what the specified name and password mean. Is this the name of the program on CGOS? Or is this the login name of the account that is registered on CGOS? Fourth: I looked for instructions about how to get an account on CGOS, but I did not find any. Am I supposed to create an account on boardspace.net, and use that account? Fifth: I tried to use the supplied config file, and I got a peculiar error message: (Pebbles) 6 % cgosGtp.exe -c cgos-config.txt -k kill.txt -p Pebbles child process exited abnormally Also, a dialog box titled Error in TclKit popped up with the following message: this isn't a Tk applicationbad window path name cgos-config.txt I probably should have asked just one question: how do I get my program on CGOS? But then someone would have pointed me to http://cgos.boardspace.net/. :-) Background info: I am using GoGui as front end, and I have
Re: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS
I might add one thing. Make sure the server is active and that games are being played. (One way to do this is to put an additional test program up.) If there are an odd number of players you may get connected but not play a game right away. I don't see anyone currently playing on CGOS, so I will put something up there for you to play against. - Don -Original Message- From: Brian Sheppard sheppar...@aol.com Reply-To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:14:00 -0400 I am having trouble connecting to CGOS. I have Windows/Vista, and I am trying to follow the instructions on page http://cgos.boardspace.net/. First: after downloading a tclkit from www.equi4.com, I renamed the executable as tcl.exe, and then ran it. This produced something like a Unix shell window. I presume that I am supposed to run the cgos script in there. Is that right? Second: the instructions imply that if I just run the script then I will get something self-explanatory. But when I do so it only works to a point: (Pebbles) 1 % cgosGtp.exe cgosGtp 0.98 alpha - engine client for CGOS Windows-x86 by Don Dailey Usage: C:/Users/Brian/DOCUME~1/Go/Pebbles/cgosGtp.exe/main.tcl -c CONFIG_FILE -k KILL_FILE -p PLAYER_FIRST -s -c specified name of config file - this is MANDATORY -k sepcifies a file to create which will stop client after current game -p specifies which player plays first game -s display a sample configuration file to stdout and exit Now I should try the -s option, right? So I do, and I get the same response: (Pebbles) 1 % cgosGtp.exe -s cgosGtp 0.98 alpha - engine client for CGOS Windows-x86 by Don Dailey Usage: C:/Users/Brian/DOCUME~1/Go/Pebbles/cgosGtp.exe/main.tcl -c CONFIG_FILE -k KILL_FILE -p PLAYER_FIRST -s -c specified name of config file - this is MANDATORY -k sepcifies a file to create which will stop client after current game -p specifies which player plays first game -s display a sample configuration file to stdout and exit Third: I dug through archives and found what I thought might be a valid configuration file. Its contents are shown below: # config file for testing various version of Pebbles # %section server server cgos.boardspace.net port 6867 %section player name Pebbles password mypwd invoke../Release/Pebbles.exe priority 1 Now I really am not sure what the specified name and password mean. Is this the name of the program on CGOS? Or is this the login name of the account that is registered on CGOS? Fourth: I looked for instructions about how to get an account on CGOS, but I did not find any. Am I supposed to create an account on boardspace.net, and use that account? Fifth: I tried to use the supplied config file, and I got a peculiar error message: (Pebbles) 6 % cgosGtp.exe -c cgos-config.txt -k kill.txt -p Pebbles child process exited abnormally Also, a dialog box titled Error in TclKit popped up with the following message: this isn't a Tk applicationbad window path name cgos-config.txt I probably should have asked just one question: how do I get my program on CGOS? But then someone would have pointed me to http://cgos.boardspace.net/. :-) Background info: I am using GoGui as front end, and I have implemented enough GTP to play go using GoGui. Is that enough for CGOS also? Help would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS
Ok, here is what I do to connect to CGOS using Windows XP. This citation is from the a box on the CGOS page: A note for Windows users: If you choose the Multi-platform starkit route, please note that there are 2 types of tclkit's for your platform. One is built with TK support (for GUI application) and is probably not the one you want, although it can be made to work if you know what you are doing. The one you want will have a name like tclkitsh instead of tclkit or some variation of this. So one want to use the file tclkitsh for windows and nothing else. I have a single line .bat file that look like this, which enable me to stop the client by creating the file Quit.txt (with a second file Quit.bat that copies itself to Quit.txt) and all activity is logged to log.txt: tclkitsh cgosGtp.kit -c config9.txt -k Quit.txt log.txt The file config9.txt look like this: %section server server cgos.boardspace.net port 6867 %section player name Valkyria3.2.7 password invoke..\\..\\ValhallGTP.exe time threadengine ponder priority 7 You need to use '\\' instead of '/' in the path to your program I think. Note that as far as I know the 9x9 server has not been running for over a week, so this is of course also a reason for not beeing able to connect to it... I find it useful to use the viewer for testing if CGOS is running, and the log file is also immediately helpful. I hope this will help. Also, since the 9x9 server is down, some programs are actually playing 13x13 right now so it would be fun if more programs did that, since it is so rare that any programs at all play 13x13. Magnus Quoting Don Dailey dailey@gmail.com: Brian, I hope some people here will help you because I am limited in my ability to help with windows - I just know that it does work and there are bunch of windows go program running on cgos. I'll answer what I can here. You don't need an account. Just make up a name and a password less than 18 character (I think, or is it 16?) The first time you successfully log on to cgos, your name will be associated with your password so that nobody else will accidental use the same name. That's the only purpose for having the password.The name is what appears on the CGOS page and uniquely identifies your program. So you will need to make sure it's not the same name as another program. Also, I think you will have better success using the tclkit designed for the console, you are trying to use the TK version, which is for creating nice GUI applications and this is not a GUI.So find a tclkit for your platform called something like tclsh or similar. I have heard that the TK version can work, but I had trouble with it when I tried to make it work on my wife's windows computer as a test. If it runs in gogui, I'm pretty sure CGOS is covered. I tried to limit myself to the minimal subset of gtp commands so that it would work on CGOS with minimal problems from the GTP end of things. Beyond this, I think there will be people here who run windows and will be happy to help you get this working. If someone is willing to document well what windows users need to do, as well as what the pitfalls are, I would be happy to add a section to the web page to make this whole process easier for windows users.I think it's easier for unix because I basically designed it on a linux system and thus windows users suffer needlessly. - Don -Original Message- From: Brian Sheppard sheppar...@aol.com Reply-To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:14:00 -0400 I am having trouble connecting to CGOS. I have Windows/Vista, and I am trying to follow the instructions on page http://cgos.boardspace.net/. First: after downloading a tclkit from www.equi4.com, I renamed the executable as tcl.exe, and then ran it. This produced something like a Unix shell window. I presume that I am supposed to run the cgos script in there. Is that right? Second: the instructions imply that if I just run the script then I will get something self-explanatory. But when I do so it only works to a point: (Pebbles) 1 % cgosGtp.exe cgosGtp 0.98 alpha - engine client for CGOS Windows-x86 by Don Dailey Usage: C:/Users/Brian/DOCUME~1/Go/Pebbles/cgosGtp.exe/main.tcl -c CONFIG_FILE -k KILL_FILE -p PLAYER_FIRST -s -c specified name of config file - this is MANDATORY -k sepcifies a file to create which will stop client after current game -p specifies which player plays first game -s display a sample configuration file to stdout and exit Now I should try the -s option, right? So I do, and I get the same response: (Pebbles) 1 % cgosGtp.exe -s cgosGtp 0.98 alpha - engine client for CGOS Windows-x86 by Don Dailey Usage:
Re: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS
Hi Magnus, Can I use your examples and such and put a section in the web page? As far as I know, CGOS has not been down. Unless it was somehow preventing logins or something.The way to test is to bring up the viewer, it will not come up at all if CGOS is down. I put 3 weak programs on the 9x9 server just so that people would have something to play against and Brain might be able to get things tested. I'm also updating the archives, since December though Feb is missing. - Don -Original Message- From: Magnus Persson magnus.pers...@phmp.se Reply-To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:14:48 +0100 Ok, here is what I do to connect to CGOS using Windows XP. This citation is from the a box on the CGOS page: A note for Windows users: If you choose the Multi-platform starkit route, please note that there are 2 types of tclkit's for your platform. One is built with TK support (for GUI application) and is probably not the one you want, although it can be made to work if you know what you are doing. The one you want will have a name like tclkitsh instead of tclkit or some variation of this. So one want to use the file tclkitsh for windows and nothing else. I have a single line .bat file that look like this, which enable me to stop the client by creating the file Quit.txt (with a second file Quit.bat that copies itself to Quit.txt) and all activity is logged to log.txt: tclkitsh cgosGtp.kit -c config9.txt -k Quit.txt log.txt The file config9.txt look like this: %section server server cgos.boardspace.net port 6867 %section player name Valkyria3.2.7 password invoke..\\..\\ValhallGTP.exe time threadengine ponder priority 7 You need to use '\\' instead of '/' in the path to your program I think. Note that as far as I know the 9x9 server has not been running for over a week, so this is of course also a reason for not beeing able to connect to it... I find it useful to use the viewer for testing if CGOS is running, and the log file is also immediately helpful. I hope this will help. Also, since the 9x9 server is down, some programs are actually playing 13x13 right now so it would be fun if more programs did that, since it is so rare that any programs at all play 13x13. Magnus ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS
Hi Don, you can of course use my example! I did test with the viewer and it did not work. Yesterday I tried to connect Valkyria but had to switch to 19x19. Could it be that only you can start connect when no one else is connected? Best Magnus Quoting Don Dailey dailey@gmail.com: Hi Magnus, Can I use your examples and such and put a section in the web page? As far as I know, CGOS has not been down. Unless it was somehow preventing logins or something.The way to test is to bring up the viewer, it will not come up at all if CGOS is down. I put 3 weak programs on the 9x9 server just so that people would have something to play against and Brain might be able to get things tested. I'm also updating the archives, since December though Feb is missing. - Don -Original Message- From: Magnus Persson magnus.pers...@phmp.se Reply-To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:14:48 +0100 Ok, here is what I do to connect to CGOS using Windows XP. This citation is from the a box on the CGOS page: A note for Windows users: If you choose the Multi-platform starkit route, please note that there are 2 types of tclkit's for your platform. One is built with TK support (for GUI application) and is probably not the one you want, although it can be made to work if you know what you are doing. The one you want will have a name like tclkitsh instead of tclkit or some variation of this. So one want to use the file tclkitsh for windows and nothing else. I have a single line .bat file that look like this, which enable me to stop the client by creating the file Quit.txt (with a second file Quit.bat that copies itself to Quit.txt) and all activity is logged to log.txt: tclkitsh cgosGtp.kit -c config9.txt -k Quit.txt log.txt The file config9.txt look like this: %section server server cgos.boardspace.net port 6867 %section player name Valkyria3.2.7 password invoke..\\..\\ValhallGTP.exe time threadengine ponder priority 7 You need to use '\\' instead of '/' in the path to your program I think. Note that as far as I know the 9x9 server has not been running for over a week, so this is of course also a reason for not beeing able to connect to it... I find it useful to use the viewer for testing if CGOS is running, and the log file is also immediately helpful. I hope this will help. Also, since the 9x9 server is down, some programs are actually playing 13x13 right now so it would be fun if more programs did that, since it is so rare that any programs at all play 13x13. Magnus ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ -- Magnus Persson Berlin, Germany ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS
It's possible I made a mistake. I may have restarted the server before I tried to connect with the view - I'm not sure. The viewer should work even if many people connect however. I can run 2 or more copies of it easily. - Don -Original Message- From: Magnus Persson magnus.pers...@phmp.se Reply-To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [computer-go] Can't get on CGOS Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:40:25 +0100 Hi Don, you can of course use my example! I did test with the viewer and it did not work. Yesterday I tried to connect Valkyria but had to switch to 19x19. Could it be that only you can start connect when no one else is connected? Best Magnus ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
