Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Wow! So you haven't seen any of the modern Macs. If memory serves, that model was early 1990s. Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD Unix now, which has changed it quite a lot. The maintenance is for system files that can get corrupted, typically with file permissions. You owe yourself another look to see what we are talking about! Mark Snyder -Original Message- Just wondering since I haven't had a mac since my 6360...Maintenance for what? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Browser Stats [was: Re: Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit]
I try to keep mine saying Linux, but there was one site I was using regularly about a year ago that required me to tell it I was using IE on Windows. I forgot about it until this thread came up. Now I have changed it back to the default. Yow! On 7/30/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Browser stats can be wrong, and they often are. There are still too many sites with browser sniffers that use them to redirect visitors or to block them. As a result, many of us who use browsers and operating systems that poor developers deem to be unworthy, have to mask our identities, or use a different OS in emulation or switch computers briefly just to view those awful sites. Sometimes we don't have a chance to switch back immediately. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Can you hear me now? [was: iPhone vs. IT: Clash of the Culture Titans]
Yes Michael. They should be able to understand me and I should be able to understand them. I really don't care where they are on the planet, just be able speak *clearly* in the same language as the caller. It's what I am *paying* the company they work for, for them to do. Is that really so hard for you to understand? -Original Message- Right! They all should get used to you. The typical attitude of _some_ Americans! *sigh* You can't understand them because they speak with a different _accent_. So what chance of Americans have in understanding others if they speak a different language altogether? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
I leave my Macs on for days or weeks and sleep them most of the time that they are not being used. I just installed Anacron to stay on top of routine maintenance. I think this site has a pretty good discussion of Mac maintenance. http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html Jordan Steve Rigby wrote: Are Mac OS X maintenance routines supposed to be run for each and every user of a given machine, or can a single administrator run the routines and have the results be of equal benefit to all users? I have spent some time on the 'net trying to resolve this question, and decided to check with the experts here instead. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone vs. IT: Clash of the Culture Titans
My problem with overseas support is that they seemed to be sworn on pain of death to never pass a customer on to a supervisor or some other higher up. That may be incidental to being overseas. Though companies that are support oriented tend to want to keep their support operations close to home, and that could be the causal chain. - Original Message From: Michael Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:17:13 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iPhone vs. IT: Clash of the Culture Titans On 7/30/07, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slow down one of the reasons we cannot understand them is that they cannot speak English well enough to handle support calls. Jeff's comment was about the _accent_. Had it been about the tech support workers not being able to speak English, I wouldn't have touched it with a ten foot pole. You've read way too much into my exchange with Jeff so I'm leaving the rest of your e-mail untouched (except the very end). Oh the capiche remark was his attempt at being cute. (your comment was uncalled for, Jeff's capiche remark was directed at me. (Perhaps, unintentionally but,) it came across to _me_ as condescending. Hence my comments; and I dismissed it with an 'I don't care whatever ...' IMHO, it was his remark that was uncalled for. not start an ethnic war over a comment that was a reflection of poor hiring practices and the shipment overseas of all sorts of computer support jobs. Oh, really? Please go back and check. His comment was about accents and knives. And, he said No, I *don't* have a problem with overseas tech support. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone vs. IT: Clash of the Culture Titans
If my mother-in-law is any example, that ones that try hardest to blend into upper-middle class suburbia and decry all the foul language on HBO are actually right of the Sopranos. ; - Original Message From: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:46:42 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iPhone vs. IT: Clash of the Culture Titans all Italians are NOT... sheesh Mike On 7/29/07, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Italian...Jeff was being ironical. And no, all Italians are straight from the Godfather. Mike On 7/29/07, Michael Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, what's with the Capiche? Is that mafia-speak? You lecturing me? Whatever ... * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
I've seen em plenty and used them a little, I just haven't bought one because I can't justify the cost. I also didn't know you had to run nightly 'maintenance' to keep the thing from having corrupted files. BTW, I don't want to start a cost debate...among other things I get at least half my pc parts which I build myself for free and the other half at cost. I spent my extra money on buying a more expensive mp3 player because it had a much nicer interface etc...an ipod. Two of em. Mike On 7/30/07, Snyder, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! So you haven't seen any of the modern Macs. If memory serves, that model was early 1990s. Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD Unix now, which has changed it quite a lot. The maintenance is for system files that can get corrupted, typically with file permissions. You owe yourself another look to see what we are talking about! Mark Snyder -Original Message- Just wondering since I haven't had a mac since my 6360...Maintenance for what? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Steve, To answer your other question, the so called cron jobs (old name) need only be run once for each Mac computer. No need to run them for each user account if that's what you mean. Phil Marchetti On Jul 29, 2007, at 2:43 PM, Steve Rigby wrote: Are Mac OS X maintenance routines supposed to be run for each and every user of a given machine, or can a single administrator run the routines and have the results be of equal benefit to all users? I have spent some time on the 'net trying to resolve this question, and decided to check with the experts here instead. Steve ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How do I play WVX on OS 10.4 Macs ?
mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: It's not broken. Works fine on windows, it's just a webmaster who is shortsighted about his potential visitors. Yes, it's broken. The Internet is designed to be operating system and browser neutral, within reason. I don't expect webmasters to make sites compatible with 1994 browsers, but newer sites should be compatible with fairly current browsers and OS's, mostly following W3C standards. Web developers who deliberately or ignorantly design sites that only work in Internet Exploder for Windows have broken sites. There's no IE for Macs beyond v.5 and no IE for Linux at all. IE for Windows 95/98 may not work with sites designed for IE/XP either. Designers with bad code deserve to lose visitor and money. Yes, of course it's broken. Ask the webmaster to fix the site. Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
Maintenance of the file system with scheduled utilities is a *nix thing to increase file reliability that goes way back. Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. OS X would make Commander Ductape proud. It logs almost everything you do. Those log files grow very large so the maintenance scripts archive the old and start a new log file. Different log files grow at different rates so that is why you hace daily, weekly, and monthly scripts. At present the log files to not get emailed to Homeland Security. They probably didn't think of doing it yet. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
I said it was a good discussion. I didn't say I did any of them except Anacron, which checks way too often, but should do what I wanted. For the uninitiated it covers a lot of ground in one place, and information is good. But I guess it is written by and for lawyers. Tom Piwowar wrote: I think this site has a pretty good discussion of Mac maintenance. http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html Pretty terrible actually. Looks like it was written by a hypochondriac (or a lawyer?). Few of this listed items can be considered maintenance. These are repair methods that are run for specific reasons. Running them for no reason at all is at best a waste of time. It could actually break something that was not previously broken. IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT! The one useful item is the reference to SMARTReporter, but even SMARTReporter runs way too frequently. It runs every few minutes when once an hour or even once a day would suffice. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Can you hear me now? [was: iPhone vs. IT: Clash of
Tom a heavy accent is doable, but one where you cannot understand the person is unacceptable. Moving the support stuff off shore is a companies prerogative. However they have a responsibility to make sure folks can speak English well enough that people can understand them. (One of the requisites for these folks being hired is CAN YOU SPEAK ENGLISH!) I worked phone support at one time and I know you have to speak clearly and distinctly so folks can understand you. I live in a region of the country where dialects can render a person unintelligible. Phoning a local store can be a chore to try and understand what is being said. I am a public speaker and it is incumbent upon me to speak so everyone can understand me. Speech is a required course in seminary. I have a member who hails from Paris, Texas. But you would not know it to speak to him. He does radio and has a classic radio announcers speech pattern. Lousy phone service is no excuse for any company Domestic or foreign Stewart At 05:38 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote: Today I spent an hour in touch-tone hell trying to get a form that JP Morgan Chase refuses to post on their website. The call center was in Chicago. The English was standard American. The service was LOUSY. So what's your point? Should I be happy because I was abused in standard American English? Many times I got excellent support from someone with a heavy regional accent. Should I insist that it was unacceptable just because the person had an accent? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
On Jul 30, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. What is the exact meaning of the numerical values that are logged within the MacJanitor window when I run that utility. They appear as something similar to: steverigby 16.02 taffymillar 12.50 The individual users name is followed by a number, as indicated above. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines
How do I get control of the log files. I am running out of space and that is mostly RSS feeds but I am looking for anything else I can clear out while I am it. - Original Message From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:10:41 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines Maintenance of the file system with scheduled utilities is a *nix thing to increase file reliability that goes way back. Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. OS X would make Commander Ductape proud. It logs almost everything you do. Those log files grow very large so the maintenance scripts archive the old and start a new log file. Different log files grow at different rates so that is why you hace daily, weekly, and monthly scripts. At present the log files to not get emailed to Homeland Security. They probably didn't think of doing it yet. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
