Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [IP] Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

[Steve at Verizon]

OK, I tried reading thru T.D. 9375 from the link, but it is heavy 
reading. Could someone who is concerned about these changes, explain 
which items bother them and why? I.e., in what way would my tax return 
be made public without my consent?


David Chessler wrote:

At 02:50 PM 2/20/2008, b_s-wilk wrote:

David, do you  have a better link for this? This link goes to "Page Not
Found". Almost every day reveals another outrage from the Bush 
administration. It will help to find out the details of this one.


Again from Farber's list:


___
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ethan 
Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:42 PM
To: David Farber
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

Greetings Dave,

It should be noted that the "proposed" regulations discussed were
issued in 2005.

They have already been finalized and are law (though most of the
regulations don't take effect until Jan.2009)

Summary, links at:
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2008-05_IRB/ar01.html#d0e41





On 2/20/08, David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> From: John Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:20 PM
> To: David Farber
> Cc: Lars Poulsen
> Subject: Re: [IP] Re:   Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns 
Public

>
> >Nobody should be surprised at this. Frankly, I have been suspicious
> >ever since I saw "free online tax-preparation" offered on the net.
> >It is obvious that if an address of a homeowner is worth $5 to
> >marketers, then a complete form 1040 is worth at least $50.
>
> It is my impression that the main impetus for the free online tax prep
> is to sell people overpriced refund anticipation loans, a variant of
> payday loans.  My local credit union offers free tax prep in person,
> to deflect people from the H+R Block refund loans and to encourage
> people to put their refunds in savings accounts and build some assets.
>
> Selling the info to marketers is gravy.
>
> Regards,
> John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet 
for Dummies",
> Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, 
ex-Mayor

> "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
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[CGUYS] Webhosting options?

[Randall]

I have 3 domain names through Go Daddy and have begun to set up 2 of the free, 
basic websites that come with the purchase of the domain name.  Have found it a 
pretty user-unfriendly experience so far and takes forever to load, though may 
be having slow loading problems beyond this site.  At last Saturdays PC 
Computer Users meeting someone from this list (whose name I will keep 
confidential) heard me ask about webhosting alternatives and came up and 
suggested Bluehost.  I checked it out and it seems to be better than Go Daddy, 
though you have to pay a fair amount up front rather than on a monthly basis as 
Go Daddy lets you.  Also, I now get a free, albeit very basic, minimal site (5 
pages) with the domain name.  I'm tempted to try Bluehost but just wondering if 
anyone else has had experience with it and in comparison with Go Daddy, or any 
other sites.  BlueHost appears less expensive than the one Tom once 
recommended, A1A or something like that.

Also, my current site gives me 1 GB bandwidth, so wondering if this might have 
to do with the slow loading speed.  I can upgrade to a better deal on Go Daddy 
but it would be a little more than BlueHost and looks like you would still get 
less.  And am I write in thinking, after playing around with site awhile, that 
I'll probably need or want more than 50 MB of disk space?

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Re: [CGUYS] gmail inbox

[Tony B]

Cool. But now my cguys label is filled with my own sent mail. How can
I get all those out of there without deleting them?


On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 5:45 PM, John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > I'm not seeing that. There are 6 options in the filters dialog, none
>  > of which is "remove inbox label". Closest might be "Skip the
>  > Inbox(Archive it)". Could that really be it?
>  >
>  > Coming from Eudora/tbird I saw 'archiving' as something else entirely
>  > and would never have thought to use that option without *reading*
>  > email first!
>  >
>  > But if true, I'll change all my filters at once. It's always seemed
>  > odd to me I couldn't emulate my old filters better.
>  >
>
>  You are right.  I forgot it said that, should have gone and checked exactly
>  what it said.
>
>  Definitely confusing wording.  For some reason, I understood it first time.
>  Must be something wrong with me 
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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [IP] Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

[David Chessler]

At 02:50 PM 2/20/2008, b_s-wilk wrote:

David, do you  have a better link for this? This link goes to "Page Not
Found". Almost every day reveals another outrage from the Bush 
administration. It will help to find out the details of this one.


Again from Farber's list:


___
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ethan 
Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:42 PM
To: David Farber
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

Greetings Dave,

It should be noted that the "proposed" regulations discussed were
issued in 2005.

They have already been finalized and are law (though most of the
regulations don't take effect until Jan.2009)

Summary, links at:
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2008-05_IRB/ar01.html#d0e41





On 2/20/08, David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> From: John Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:20 PM
> To: David Farber
> Cc: Lars Poulsen
> Subject: Re: [IP] Re:   Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public
>
> >Nobody should be surprised at this. Frankly, I have been suspicious
> >ever since I saw "free online tax-preparation" offered on the net.
> >It is obvious that if an address of a homeowner is worth $5 to
> >marketers, then a complete form 1040 is worth at least $50.
>
> It is my impression that the main impetus for the free online tax prep
> is to sell people overpriced refund anticipation loans, a variant of
> payday loans.  My local credit union offers free tax prep in person,
> to deflect people from the H+R Block refund loans and to encourage
> people to put their refunds in savings accounts and build some assets.
>
> Selling the info to marketers is gravy.
>
> Regards,
> John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet 
for Dummies",

> Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor
> "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
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Re: [CGUYS] gmail inbox

[John DeCarlo]

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not seeing that. There are 6 options in the filters dialog, none
> of which is "remove inbox label". Closest might be "Skip the
> Inbox(Archive it)". Could that really be it?
>
> Coming from Eudora/tbird I saw 'archiving' as something else entirely
> and would never have thought to use that option without *reading*
> email first!
>
> But if true, I'll change all my filters at once. It's always seemed
> odd to me I couldn't emulate my old filters better.
>

You are right.  I forgot it said that, should have gone and checked exactly
what it said.

Definitely confusing wording.  For some reason, I understood it first time.
Must be something wrong with me 

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Re: [CGUYS] No call list

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Humorist Dave Barry had the best outgoing msg of all: 
thanks for calling, we're momentarily away from the
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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [IP] Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

[mike]

And they all lead back to the same website or forums discussing the
website.

Mike

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2008, at 2:50 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
>
> > David, do you  have a better link for this? This link goes to "Page
> > Not
> > Found". Almost every day reveals another outrage from the Bush
> > administration. It will help to find out the details of this one.
>
>There is a lot of stuff on the internet about this.  Search on the
> subject line of this thread.
>
>   Steve
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Re: [CGUYS] gmail inbox

[Tony B]

I'm not seeing that. There are 6 options in the filters dialog, none
of which is "remove inbox label". Closest might be "Skip the
Inbox(Archive it)". Could that really be it?

Coming from Eudora/tbird I saw 'archiving' as something else entirely
and would never have thought to use that option without *reading*
email first!

But if true, I'll change all my filters at once. It's always seemed
odd to me I couldn't emulate my old filters better.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 3:50 PM, John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess I wasn't clear.
>
>  I meant that if you use a filter today with your mail client, it moves the
>  message out of the Inbox and into a message folder, say the CGUYS folder.
>
>  You can make it seem like the exact same thing in Gmail by setting up a
>  filter to put a label of CGUYS on the messages and take off the Inbox
>  label.  Now it isn't showing up in your Inbox, only under the CGUYS label.
>
>  And yes, if you simply take off the Inbox label, you can't easily browse
>  through the list of messages.  You then have to search to find it.
>
>
>
>  On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > I didn't know that was an optional label. But if I turn it off, where
>  > is my unclassified mail going to sit? Don't even suggest "All Mail"
>  > because that would be a real chore to sift through!
>  >
>  >
>  > > If you are lazy, you can still use Gmail labels like filters.  Turn off
>  > the
>  > > inbox label and it isn't in your inbox any more.
>  >
>
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [IP] Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

[Admiral Harris]

Could it be because this "news" is more than a year old, and the tax 
preparers decided not to do this a long while back??


- Original Message - 





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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [IP] Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

[Steve Rigby]

On Feb 20, 2008, at 2:50 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:

David, do you  have a better link for this? This link goes to "Page  
Not
Found". Almost every day reveals another outrage from the Bush  
administration. It will help to find out the details of this one.


  There is a lot of stuff on the internet about this.  Search on the  
subject line of this thread.


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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [IP] Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

[mike]

I googled a few times with varying keywords, all containing at least 'tax
return made public'.  The only article I could find on it is the one David
got his link from.  The site is a far left one...which of course isn't to
say it's wrong but it's odd that the philly article they site doesn't exist
it seems.  Something this big you'd think would have other stories on the
web.  Perhaps someone else can find more info.

Mike

On Feb 20, 2008 12:50 PM, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> David, do you  have a better link for this? This link goes to "Page Not
> Found". Almost every day reveals another outrage from the Bush
> administration. It will help to find out the details of this one.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Betty
>
> > Subject: Bush?s IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public
> >
> > A new article from the Philadelphia Inquirer has blown open the
> > startling plans of the IRS
> >  to allow
> > tax preparers for the first time to sell the tax returns of their
> > customers.
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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [IP] Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

[Andy Gallant]

Hmm ... seems to have been originally posted almost two years ago.  See  
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/23/bushs-irs-wants-to-make-your-tax-returns-public/, 
which seems to have the same text as the [IP] posting.




`b_s-wilk wrote:

David, do you  have a better link for this? This link goes to "Page Not
Found". Almost every day reveals another outrage from the Bush 
administration. It will help to find out the details of this one.


Thanks.

Betty


Subject: Bush?s IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

A new article from the Philadelphia Inquirer has blown open the 
startling plans of the IRS

 to allow
tax preparers for the first time to sell the tax returns of their
customers.


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Re: [CGUYS] gmail inbox

[John DeCarlo]

I guess I wasn't clear.

I meant that if you use a filter today with your mail client, it moves the
message out of the Inbox and into a message folder, say the CGUYS folder.

You can make it seem like the exact same thing in Gmail by setting up a
filter to put a label of CGUYS on the messages and take off the Inbox
label.  Now it isn't showing up in your Inbox, only under the CGUYS label.

And yes, if you simply take off the Inbox label, you can't easily browse
through the list of messages.  You then have to search to find it.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I didn't know that was an optional label. But if I turn it off, where
> is my unclassified mail going to sit? Don't even suggest "All Mail"
> because that would be a real chore to sift through!
>
>
> > If you are lazy, you can still use Gmail labels like filters.  Turn off
> the
> > inbox label and it isn't in your inbox any more.
>


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[CGUYS] Fwd: [IP] Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

[b_s-wilk]

David, do you  have a better link for this? This link goes to "Page Not
Found". Almost every day reveals another outrage from the Bush 
administration. It will help to find out the details of this one.


Thanks.

Betty


Subject: Bush?s IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

A new article from the Philadelphia Inquirer has blown open the 
startling plans of the IRS

 to allow
tax preparers for the first time to sell the tax returns of their
customers.



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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

[MrMike6by9]

I meant to add. Many of those services that use these 800's numbers appear
to be using "boiler rooms" from which multiple numbers are dialed
simulatanously. You will often pick up and hear nothing since another line
answered first and that "child of God" spilled his/her spam on that
unfortunate person before he got your call. Call backs to these
numbers often go to a non-working number or to a line that says it cannot
accept incoming calls. How about that?

You can find out about a lot of this by reading the comments people post at
"whocalled.us" and at "800notes.com". A couple of weeks back, for example, I
got a call from "123-456-7890" according to the caller id. Sheesh!

YMMV

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Re: [CGUYS] No call list

[Jeff Wright]

My rule is that if I pick up and hear 2 seconds or so of silence after
saying "hello", I hang up.  Otherwise, I just usually screen through my
answering machine.

Now if my alma maters would just get the hint that I don't have any money
for them

> -Original Message-
> The
> calls are automatically generated, but a live person will respond
> when the phone is answered unless that "Please hold on.  We have an
> important message for you." recording comes on.  Apparently a
> "relationship" is not connected to the person in who's name the phone
> is listed, but rather simply to whatever phone number they have in
> their records even if it is the wrong number for the person they are
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Re: [CGUYS] Do Not Call Lists

[MrMike6by9]

I remember going the DNC site and verifying that my numbers are still listed
and saw the expiration dates for those listings.

YMMV

-

Subject: Re: Do Not Call Lists

I didn't read all the posts in this topic thread...I've wondered what
happens to the guys who think the DNC is not working and re-up ...does that
open a 90 day window for the callers to call you waiting for that period to
expire when they MUST honor your request resulting in worsening of the
situation in the short run??

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Re: [CGUYS] Stopping shortcuts from being automatically added to the start menu

[Michael S. Altus]

I think you're seeing WinXP being helpful.  In particular, the "Start menu 
contains shortcuts to the programs you use most often."  To change the number 
of 
shortcuts displayed, try this:
1. Right-click on the "start" button and select Properties.
2. Select the "Start Menu" tab.
3. Assuming the (not Classic) Start Menu button is selected, click Customize.
4. Under Programs, try lowering the number to 0.  Then OK your way out.

I thought that I had tried this and it didn't work. For example, I had the 
number at 0 and would open Adobe Reader, not already on the start menu. Then 
I'd 
open Adobe Reader and find it on the start menu.  I'll try again, and thanks.

Michael

Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS
Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R)
Biomedical Writing and Editing
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[CGUYS] gmail inbox

[Tony B]

I didn't know that was an optional label. But if I turn it off, where
is my unclassified mail going to sit? Don't even suggest "All Mail"
because that would be a real chore to sift through!


> If you are lazy, you can still use Gmail labels like filters.  Turn off the
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Re: [CGUYS] DRM Dead? Was: [Re: [CGUYS] List Future [Was: CGUYS.ORG & Footer Updated]]

[Jeff Wright]

Or go to Amazon and pay no premium for DRM-free tunes.  Their entire library
is DRM-free and is priced very competitively.

> -Original Message-
> On an exciting note Walmart's Music download page offers MP3 files for
> an added $0.06 which rids us of that intrusive DRM.  I found that my
> Sansa would loose its DRM info if it was not hooked to the computer and
> synced occasionally(once a month).  All songs without DRM were
> unaffected.  I hope this is the end of DRM songs. The only question is,
> will they let me pay $0.06 to remove the DRM from the songs I purchased
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Re: [CGUYS] expanding archives

[John DeCarlo]

On Feb 19, 2008 9:21 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Strangely, now that I get my email via gmail's AJAX web interface,
> I've sort of had to unlearn filters, since they instead offer these
> newfangled 'labels'. Ah well. Maybe I'll go back to using an old local
> email client with no filters at all. Or not.
>

If you are lazy, you can still use Gmail labels like filters.  Turn off the
inbox label and it isn't in your inbox any more.

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