Re: [CGUYS] suggestion
Get gmail and try Mail Goggles... (in settings/labs) Google strives to make the world's information useful. Mail you send late night on the weekends may be useful but you may regret it the next morning. Solve some simple math problems and you're good to go. Otherwise, get a good night's sleep and try again in the morning. After enabling this feature, you can adjust the schedule in the General settings page. -Original Message- From: Andy Gallant [mailto:a...@agallant.com] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: suggestion Folks, reading some of these messages is getting, well, depressing. May I offer a suggestion? If there's something that really needs to be said, how about saying it before, say, midnight tonight (EST), and then leave it all behind? Let's make a fresh start tomorrow. -Andy (now preparing to duck and cover ...) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] suggestion
But the picture value and the symbolism would be so meaningful! :-) -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Rev. Stewart Marshall Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:29 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] suggestion I think that would be pushing it in this case. :-) Stewart At 05:19 PM 1/19/2009, you wrote: The other option was to make them kiss and make up. Most chose to go to their room instead. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X
I've got a Garmin and have generally been amused, but somewhat disappointed by what it thinks it knows and doesn't know. It knows where Home Depots are located, just not the one that's 15 minutes from me (that's been in the same location since the late 1980s). It suggests I drive 2+ hours to find one. The same goes for Trader Joes and a slew of other places. A local hospital moved 2 years ago and last year's map didn't know about it. It doesn't even know where the Costco that it came from is located. On the amusing side, it knows the abbreviation SC stands for South Carolina. I programmed in a location for a business with SC in the name. It tells me, now arriving at South Carolina It knows how to read street names for the most part. Expressway is...well Expressway, but Expwy is ex-pweee Also, it is rather amusing that if you program it for shortest distance, the directions will take you off the freeway, onto the exit ramp and then back onto the freeway again. Apparently that's .0001 miles shorter than just staying on the freeway. I called Garmin and the kind person I spoke with (after waiting on hold for 30+ minutes) didn't understand how it doesn't know the various locations. That was with updated maps too. I suspect businesses have to pay to have their locations identified? Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:06 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X Actually, I think Tom was saying that Garmin forcing you to use Active X is a Bad Thing. And I'd have to ag. . . agre. . . Ohh, I just can't say it. Forcing anyone to use IE is certainly a crime. I went one step further to say that any company who can't figure out how to do a job using open standards is advertising that they have very poor engineering skills. Hence I would expect to be otherwise not too hot. I believe subsequent posts cleared Garmin of this offense, but raised a new one. To register you had to be running an administrative account. That is not quite as bad as requiring IE, but certainly does not establish their engineering chops. So instead of 0 stars they get 2 stars. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X
It is not so easy. Garmin, TomTom and others buy their maps from a couple of companies. TeleAtlas, Navteq etc. These maps are only updated every few years Right now if I punch in the street address for my church it sends me 1.5 miles down the road. Reason for this is that 6 years ago they redid all the street addresses for E911. Before they were a mess. If I put in the old street address it finds it dead on. Just this past summer I saw a van from TeleAtlas in the area doing some remapping. So I expect some change in the next couple of years. If you live in a highly populated area expect your map to be more up to date etc. Again density and population determines how often your area is remapped by these companies. (who then sell these remapped areas to another company etc. etc.) Oh I can download updated Points of Interest from the TomTom site. Some are done by the company (Home Depot etc.) and are more accurate and up to date. Stewart At 02:10 PM 1/20/2009, you wrote: I've got a Garmin and have generally been amused, but somewhat disappointed by what it thinks it knows and doesn't know. It knows where Home Depots are located, just not the one that's 15 minutes from me (that's been in the same location since the late 1980s). It suggests I drive 2+ hours to find one. The same goes for Trader Joes and a slew of other places. A local hospital moved 2 years ago and last year's map didn't know about it. It doesn't even know where the Costco that it came from is located. On the amusing side, it knows the abbreviation SC stands for South Carolina. I programmed in a location for a business with SC in the name. It tells me, now arriving at South Carolina It knows how to read street names for the most part. Expressway is...well Expressway, but Expwy is ex-pweee Also, it is rather amusing that if you program it for shortest distance, the directions will take you off the freeway, onto the exit ramp and then back onto the freeway again. Apparently that's .0001 miles shorter than just staying on the freeway. I called Garmin and the kind person I spoke with (after waiting on hold for 30+ minutes) didn't understand how it doesn't know the various locations. That was with updated maps too. I suspect businesses have to pay to have their locations identified? Larry Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X
Oh I forgot to say TomTom allows these updates (POI) to be rated. Always look for the highest rated one (Occasionally there are two for the same entity. Unless of course the folks have been working for Belkin, than you can ignore them.) Stewart At 03:22 PM 1/20/2009, you wrote: It is not so easy. Garmin, TomTom and others buy their maps from a couple of companies. TeleAtlas, Navteq etc. These maps are only updated every few years Right now if I punch in the street address for my church it sends me 1.5 miles down the road. Reason for this is that 6 years ago they redid all the street addresses for E911. Before they were a mess. If I put in the old street address it finds it dead on. Just this past summer I saw a van from TeleAtlas in the area doing some remapping. So I expect some change in the next couple of years. If you live in a highly populated area expect your map to be more up to date etc. Again density and population determines how often your area is remapped by these companies. (who then sell these remapped areas to another company etc. etc.) Oh I can download updated Points of Interest from the TomTom site. Some are done by the company (Home Depot etc.) and are more accurate and up to date. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS [was: Windows Active X]
Right now if I punch in the street address for my church it sends me 1.5 miles down the road. Reason for this is that 6 years ago they redid all the street addresses for E911. Before they were a mess. If I put in the old street address it finds it dead on. Just this past summer I saw a van from TeleAtlas in the area doing some remapping. So I expect some change in the next couple of years. This sounds still better than the Nav system that came in my wife's 2007 Ford. I believe these are made by Pioneer. We were going to visit family over the holidays and my cousins had moved to a new house that we hadn't been to before. This is just outside of Harrisburg, PA. I sometimes turn on GPS systems before I need them, just to see how they are at basic navigation. I programmed in the address, since I didn't know exactly where they were and once we were on 83N, off of 695, I turned it on and it immediately told me to get off at the next exit, which is nuts. I don't want to take MD and PA back roads for the next 100 miles. I canceled the navigation and tried it again a bit later and it still was bugging me to exit, which I knew was wrong. Finally, as we were getting near, I took one of the exits. It was a nice drive through a quaint, small PA town, but after about 4 miles, I crossed the exit off 83N I really wanted. This was the same system I tried to program to take the Tappan-Zee bridge coming back from NE, and gave up after about a half-hour of fighting with it (in the driveway of course). It's breathtaking how god awful this GPS system is. I'm glad I bought the car used and wasn't stupid enough to spend the $2,000 the Nav option cost new. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS [was: Windows Active X]
I have been told that most of the nav systems in cars, pale in comparison with the ones you can buy off the shelf. A lot of this depends on who they are buying their nav systems from. I know some needs maps loaded from a DVD to make them work. Stewart At 04:29 PM 1/20/2009, you wrote: This sounds still better than the Nav system that came in my wife's 2007 Ford. I believe these are made by Pioneer. We were going to visit family over the holidays and my cousins had moved to a new house that we hadn't been to before. This is just outside of Harrisburg, PA. I sometimes turn on GPS systems before I need them, just to see how they are at basic navigation. I programmed in the address, since I didn't know exactly where they were and once we were on 83N, off of 695, I turned it on and it immediately told me to get off at the next exit, which is nuts. I don't want to take MD and PA back roads for the next 100 miles. I canceled the navigation and tried it again a bit later and it still was bugging me to exit, which I knew was wrong. Finally, as we were getting near, I took one of the exits. It was a nice drive through a quaint, small PA town, but after about 4 miles, I crossed the exit off 83N I really wanted. This was the same system I tried to program to take the Tappan-Zee bridge coming back from NE, and gave up after about a half-hour of fighting with it (in the driveway of course). It's breathtaking how god awful this GPS system is. I'm glad I bought the car used and wasn't stupid enough to spend the $2,000 the Nav option cost new. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS [was: Windows Active X]
Google is offering new mapping software for cell phones without gps using triangulation via the cell towers. Has anyone tried this? How was it if so? Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS [was: Windows Active X]
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, mike wrote: Google is offering new mapping software for cell phones without gps using triangulation via the cell towers. Has anyone tried this? How was it if so? I'm using that on my work-issued Blackberry. It's ok. It's better where the cell towers are closer together. The accurracy is anywhere from within a mile to with a hundred yards or so (depending on closeness of cell towers). And, of course, if cell towers are too far (or out of range completely), then it won't show your position at all. The maps seem pretty slow to download, but I have an old Blackberry, so maybe newer ones work better. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Disk Utility
Thanks for the tip. I got the tip to run, but not work. I had to take it in and it seems the drive is toast. Btw, have Disk Warrior, but it's for OS 9. I thought I'd updated that thing. Guess I was wrong. Jeff M On Jan 19, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I'm running Disk Utility on my mom's iMac G5, an old one, not Intel based. Anyway, after repairing permissions I get an error when I try and verify her hard drive. It gives me the message Invalid Sibling Link. Does anyone have any idea what this is and why the verify keeps failing? Because it can't fix it. Try this... http://mahalkita.nanogeex.com/2007/09/28/how-to-fix-the-invalid-sibling-lin k-error/ Or buy something stronger than Disk Utility, like Disk Warrior. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * The friend is the man who knows all about you, and still likes you. - Elbert Hubbard * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] MagicJack pt2
First Impressions. After you guys tallked me into it, I just received the device today. They won't even charge my card for 30 days, assuming I don't return it first. Following the prompts, I received a working phone number within a few minutes. Well, by the time I plugged in the house phone and called the wife's cell anyway. My very first impression is Real Player on steroids. Virtually no Help, and a big-ass application (magicjack.exe) that runs IN YOUR FACE. You can minimize it, but as soon as someone calls it pops to the front, flashing ads in your face. The only ads seem to be their own. No live Help numbers. Not even a Help menu in the desktop app! I still have no idea how to migrate my old VOIP number, and found myself having to do a (fruitless) Google search. There's a first time free number change, but I haven't pressed it yet because I don't know if a failed attempt will run up the counter. I mean, until I disconnect from Vonage, how can they use my Vonage-assigned phone number? One of the ads they're flashing is an offer for 5 years of service for $60 (or thereabouts, it's gone now). I just don't see how something like this won't completely destroy the whole industry pricing schemes. I mean, even Vonage is trying to charge $15-$25 a month now. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X
I recalled something from TomTom. According to the TomTom web site, new TomTom products support Map Share (tm). To quote from http://www.tomtom.com/page/mapshare: TomTom’s unique Map Share technology enhances your navigation experience, letting you make instant corrections to your map directly on your TomTom device. You can also receive similar corrections made by the entire TomTom community of Map Share users. One does this by connecting the unit to TomTom Home software running on Windows or Mac. It sounds like a partial solution for map updates if you are part of the community. Does anyone have any experience with it? The web site also says they sell map updates, which I think may be free for the first twelve months on purchases of new units (but I don't know - I had trouble finding details during the quick look I took). Sorry this response isn't more definitive. -Andy Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: It is not so easy. Garmin, TomTom and others buy their maps from a couple of companies. TeleAtlas, Navteq etc. These maps are only updated every few years Right now if I punch in the street address for my church it sends me 1.5 miles down the road. Reason for this is that 6 years ago they redid all the street addresses for E911. Before they were a mess. If I put in the old street address it finds it dead on. Just this past summer I saw a van from TeleAtlas in the area doing some remapping. So I expect some change in the next couple of years. If you live in a highly populated area expect your map to be more up to date etc. Again density and population determines how often your area is remapped by these companies. (who then sell these remapped areas to another company etc. etc.) Oh I can download updated Points of Interest from the TomTom site. Some are done by the company (Home Depot etc.) and are more accurate and up to date. Stewart At 02:10 PM 1/20/2009, you wrote: I've got a Garmin and have generally been amused, but somewhat disappointed by what it thinks it knows and doesn't know. It knows where Home Depots are located, just not the one that's 15 minutes from me (that's been in the same location since the late 1980s). It suggests I drive 2+ hours to find one. The same goes for Trader Joes and a slew of other places. A local hospital moved 2 years ago and last year's map didn't know about it. It doesn't even know where the Costco that it came from is located. On the amusing side, it knows the abbreviation SC stands for South Carolina. I programmed in a location for a business with SC in the name. It tells me, now arriving at South Carolina It knows how to read street names for the most part. Expressway is...well Expressway, but Expwy is ex-pweee Also, it is rather amusing that if you program it for shortest distance, the directions will take you off the freeway, onto the exit ramp and then back onto the freeway again. Apparently that's .0001 miles shorter than just staying on the freeway. I called Garmin and the kind person I spoke with (after waiting on hold for 30+ minutes) didn't understand how it doesn't know the various locations. That was with updated maps too. I suspect businesses have to pay to have their locations identified? Larry Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack pt2
Funny, I had the lkongest chat (help) online with them and even printed it and received as e-mail. I thought it was quite good. There is a HELP on the top right. Marcio At 02:23 21/1/2009, you wrote: First Impressions. After you guys tallked me into it, I just received the device today. They won't even charge my card for 30 days, assuming I don't return it first. Following the prompts, I received a working phone number within a few minutes. Well, by the time I plugged in the house phone and called the wife's cell anyway. My very first impression is Real Player on steroids. Virtually no Help, and a big-ass application (magicjack.exe) that runs IN YOUR FACE. You can minimize it, but as soon as someone calls it pops to the front, flashing ads in your face. The only ads seem to be their own. No live Help numbers. Not even a Help menu in the desktop app! I still have no idea how to migrate my old VOIP number, and found myself having to do a (fruitless) Google search. There's a first time free number change, but I haven't pressed it yet because I don't know if a failed attempt will run up the counter. I mean, until I disconnect from Vonage, how can they use my Vonage-assigned phone number? One of the ads they're flashing is an offer for 5 years of service for $60 (or thereabouts, it's gone now). I just don't see how something like this won't completely destroy the whole industry pricing schemes. I mean, even Vonage is trying to charge $15-$25 a month now. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack pt2 II
You go to Menu, then help, the in the botton Life Person... I have done it. Worked fine. There are hundreds of FAQs also. Marcio At 02:23 21/1/2009, you wrote: First Impressions. After you guys tallked me into it, I just received the device today. They won't even charge my card for 30 days, assuming I don't return it first. Following the prompts, I received a working phone number within a few minutes. Well, by the time I plugged in the house phone and called the wife's cell anyway. My very first impression is Real Player on steroids. Virtually no Help, and a big-ass application (magicjack.exe) that runs IN YOUR FACE. You can minimize it, but as soon as someone calls it pops to the front, flashing ads in your face. The only ads seem to be their own. No live Help numbers. Not even a Help menu in the desktop app! I still have no idea how to migrate my old VOIP number, and found myself having to do a (fruitless) Google search. There's a first time free number change, but I haven't pressed it yet because I don't know if a failed attempt will run up the counter. I mean, until I disconnect from Vonage, how can they use my Vonage-assigned phone number? One of the ads they're flashing is an offer for 5 years of service for $60 (or thereabouts, it's gone now). I just don't see how something like this won't completely destroy the whole industry pricing schemes. I mean, even Vonage is trying to charge $15-$25 a month now. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
