Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history
Gotta have some incentive for most people--either carrot or stick. So you are buying into my model of how this works. For a liberal, you are remarkably conservative. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for OS X replicating software?
At 2:39 PM -0800 2/14/09, db wrote: ... In looking at the reviews (mixed...) for Deja Vu just now, I came across another option ChronoSync ($40): http://www.econtechnologies.com/pages/cs/chrono_overview.html Anybody have experience re: good stability/ dependability with ChronoSync or the other options? I run ChronoSync every night to backup three different directories from my MacBook to my G4 Sawtooth desktop. Works great, I love it. I also use SuperDuper to periodically backup both Macs to an external WD MyBook that I partitioned into 3 volumes: two Mac HFS+ formatted and one FAT32 formatted. I just used that backup to swap out the 160GB HDD in the MacBook for a 320GB drive. Do a backup; shutdown, swap the drive, boot from the backup and restore from the backup to the new drive. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
Ding! You win the prize for the obvious - the bills threatened the availability of abortion without consequences and had to be opposed - even if this meant tolerating infanticide Why are you ignoring the fact that this infanticide was already illegal? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
You can not ignore what is not there. On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: Ding! You win the prize for the obvious - the bills threatened the availability of abortion without consequences and had to be opposed - even if this meant tolerating infanticide Why are you ignoring the fact that this infanticide was already illegal? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
Matthew Taylor You can not ignore what is not there. On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: Ding! You win the prize for the obvious - the bills threatened the availability of abortion without consequences and had to be opposed - even if this meant tolerating infanticide Why are you ignoring the fact that this infanticide was already illegal? Infanticide is legal? Wouldn't that come under the homicide label? -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
You would think, but no, not in the cases in question. The issue related to failed abortions that resulted in the live delivery of an infant. Absent intense medical care this child would die. In most cases this child would probably die anyway. These children were not being given any care, life saving or even palliative care as the intent had been their death all along. In my book that is infanticide, and the proposed law would have made that clear. Obama and others voted against it to protect unfettered abortion rights. As an aside, this all relates to the legal definition of personhood. To be a homicide the victim has to be a person. That is the principle reason that most on the pro abortion sidesideside fight any effort to recognize the personhood of a child in the womb. The implications are obvious. Matthew On Feb 15, 2009, at 9:13 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: Matthew Taylor You can not ignore what is not there. On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: Ding! You win the prize for the obvious - the bills threatened the availability of abortion without consequences and had to be opposed - even if this meant tolerating infanticide Why are you ignoring the fact that this infanticide was already illegal? Infanticide is legal? Wouldn't that come under the homicide label? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
Ding! You win the prize for the obvious - the bills threatened the availability of abortion without consequences and had to be opposed - even if this meant tolerating infanticide Why are you ignoring the fact that this infanticide was already illegal? Infanticide is legal? Wouldn't that come under the homicide label? Of course it does. It's homicide. That's the point. But it doesn't fit with the vision of Obama-as-the-Antichrist, so it's ignored. It doesn't even matter that the state AG's office (and the AG is anti-abortion, by the way) also said that it was already illegal. The conservatives appear to think that if they repeat Infanticide is legal in Illinois enough times, it becomes true. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Politics Hour
i have no interest in the politics being discussed on this list. could the political discussion crowd agree on at least one thing. use a topic subject so i can dump all this stuff into spam before i have to trash it and them dump it. my recommended subject heading would be rush. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Politics Hour
I was thinking about that...maybe every topic/thread with a header in the subject 'politics' or we could even branch out to 'movies' or something. On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:28 AM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote: i have no interest in the politics being discussed on this list. could the political discussion crowd agree on at least one thing. use a topic subject so i can dump all this stuff into spam before i have to trash it and them dump it. my recommended subject heading would be rush. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
You would think, but no, not in the cases in question. The issue related to failed abortions that resulted in the live delivery of an infant. Absent intense medical care this child would die. In most cases this child would probably die anyway. These children were not being given any care, life saving or even palliative care as the intent had been their death all along. You keep saying this, but you provide no evidence that it ever happened. One more time: I have found one case where it was *alleged* to have occurred, but two separate investigations, including one by the office of the anti-abortion Attorney General, found no evidence to support the allegations. A state spokesman said that the alleged events would have been illegal had they occurred. Do you feel that you understand Illinois law better than the state Attorney General does? Can you explain why his office would investigate the allegations if they weren't illegal? The fact is, you just keep stating without any documentation that (a) this happened and (b) it was legal. Saying these things over and over does not make them true. As an aside, this all relates to the legal definition of personhood. To be a homicide the victim has to be a person. That is the principle reason that most on the pro abortion side fight any effort to recognize the personhood of a child in the womb. The implications are obvious. Indeed, and this invalidates the rest of what you've been saying. The infants in question are no longer in the womb, are they? Once a child has been born alive, it is a person by anyone's definition. The fact that this occurred during an abortion is wholly irrelevant. That makes it homicide, and quite illegal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] *STOP NOW* [Was: Politics Hour]
i have no interest in the politics being discussed on this list. could the political discussion crowd agree on at least one thing. use a topic subject so i can dump all this stuff into spam before i have to trash it and them dump it. I agree. It has gotten to the point where even I read this list much less. Let's get back to computers (something we all know about). I want the CGUYS list back! If people want I can set up a Google discussion list for this off-topic thread. If we don't get back on topic in a few days I am going to put the whole list on moderation. I hate to do it because I hate any form of censorship (and hate the work even more), but I fear that off-topic is going to destroy the list. Maybe you can ween yourselves off politics by discussing how broadband got short shrift in the recovery plan? For Feb 1 to Feb 15: 26% Resodding the mall 13% Redefining history 8% Taxes and good life 4% political discussion 4% Redefining history 2% Needlepoint 1% Solar Energy and Redefining history 1% Discussion Rules 41% On Topic (246 posts) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Computer Question
I have a computer question and it is aimed at the Do It Yourselfer. I was replacing a cooling fan/heat sink on a CPU last week and when I pulled off the old Heatsink it pulled the whole CPU out with it. When I put the CPU back in with the new heatsink/cooling fan, it bent (I mean really bent) some of the pins on the CPU. Has any one ever had luck un bending pins on a newer CPU? It is an Opteron 170 AMD socket 939 CPU. I have ordered a replacement (lower speed) CPU for this board, and decided to order a backup plan (Newer AM2+ board, CPU and memory) just in case. What should I use to unbend the pins? A sewing needle? Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Politics Hour
I that the POLITICS header for the threads being discussed lately is a GREAT idea! I've noticed that this list wanders off into political subjects from time to time, but generally wanders back into computer topics after awhile--usually after everybody has figured out what everybody else thinks about a given topic (and everybody gets thoroughly bored with it). Since we're in a political and economic situation that's, well, kind of important right now, it's not surprising that it's taking people longer to get tired of political topics on the list. So a POLITICS header could be useful while we get back to more purely computer-related issues. This would also help list members who are pressed for time and who want only computer-related posts during a busy work day. Oddly enough, I DO have time right now to read political posts, because I'm sidelined for the moment. I'm currently recovering (I hope) from surgery for a broken wrist. I'd like to hear from any list members who have also had broken wrists or arms, and how long it took before you could use BOTH HANDS on a computer keyboard again, what you did by way of therapy, what helped, what not to do, etc. Because ANYBODY can fall on the ice (I didn't think I was going to fall until I was halfway down) and IT'S A REAL DRAG TYPING AN EMAIL WITH JUST ONE HAND, when you're used to two!! --Constance Warner On Feb 15, 2009, at 10:28 AM, gerald wrote: i have no interest in the politics being discussed on this list. could the political discussion crowd agree on at least one thing. use a topic subject so i can dump all this stuff into spam before i have to trash it and them dump it. my recommended subject heading would be rush. ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Question
While I can't vouch for whether the pins will straighten back up without breaking, what I would try is get some hobby shop tubing with an inside diameter that will just slip over a good pin while still having clearance from the adjacent pins. Then slip it over the bent pins, straightening as needed while you gently push down. I would suggest using a brass tube rather than aluminum so the metal doesn't transfer over to the gold pins. Take the CPU in with you when you go for sizing. Good luck. Richard P. On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have a computer question and it is aimed at the Do It Yourselfer. I was replacing a cooling fan/heat sink on a CPU last week and when I pulled off the old Heatsink it pulled the whole CPU out with it. When I put the CPU back in with the new heatsink/cooling fan, it bent (I mean really bent) some of the pins on the CPU. Has any one ever had luck un bending pins on a newer CPU? It is an Opteron 170 AMD socket 939 CPU. I have ordered a replacement (lower speed) CPU for this board, and decided to order a backup plan (Newer AM2+ board, CPU and memory) just in case. What should I use to unbend the pins? A sewing needle? Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] One handedness
I broke my hand a while back. I found that using a Logitech Trackman marble track ball was of great help. I already was partial to them, but a mouse would have been impossible to use with my hand. Matthew On Feb 15, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Constance Warner wrote: I'd like to hear from any list members who have also had broken wrists or arms, and how long it took before you could use BOTH HANDS on a computer keyboard again, what you did by way of therapy, what helped, what not to do, etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Politics Hour
You got pluck gurl! ( I'm envisioning you pecking away with one hand :)) What did you end up with for a keyboard solution, if any ? db Constance Warner wrote: I that the POLITICS header for the threads being discussed lately is a GREAT idea! I've noticed that this list wanders off into political subjects from time to time, but generally wanders back into computer topics after awhile--usually after everybody has figured out what everybody else thinks about a given topic (and everybody gets thoroughly bored with it). Since we're in a political and economic situation that's, well, kind of important right now, it's not surprising that it's taking people longer to get tired of political topics on the list. So a POLITICS header could be useful while we get back to more purely computer-related issues. This would also help list members who are pressed for time and who want only computer-related posts during a busy work day. Oddly enough, I DO have time right now to read political posts, because I'm sidelined for the moment. I'm currently recovering (I hope) from surgery for a broken wrist. I'd like to hear from any list members who have also had broken wrists or arms, and how long it took before you could use BOTH HANDS on a computer keyboard again, what you did by way of therapy, what helped, what not to do, etc. Because ANYBODY can fall on the ice (I didn't think I was going to fall until I was halfway down) and IT'S A REAL DRAG TYPING AN EMAIL WITH JUST ONE HAND, when you're used to two!! --Constance Warner On Feb 15, 2009, at 10:28 AM, gerald wrote: i have no interest in the politics being discussed on this list. could the political discussion crowd agree on at least one thing. use a topic subject so i can dump all this stuff into spam before i have to trash it and them dump it. my recommended subject heading would be rush. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Question
There are no good solutions to your problem, and using some tool to unbend the pins is about the best of bad solutions. The real question is why did you try to replace the heat sink? That is a definite no-no unless you are both desperate and very experienced. While my own experience is with only about a dozen or so computers, I have never seen a machine yet in which the CPU fan was not separately replaceable, without replacing the heat sink. Just unscrew four screws, one in each corner, and the fan is removed. I would never, never purchase a computer if that were not the case. Purchasing an individual fan of the correct specifications may at times be a bit difficult, but nowhere near as nasty as the predicament in which you find yourself. Also, I thought that all of the CPU sockets for the last five or ten years (or more) were the so-called Zero Insertion Force (ZIF) sockets. There is a lever on the side of the socket. Release the lever, and the CPU lifts out and re-inserts effortlessly, because the release of the lever releases the grip on all of the pins. After reinserting the CPU, re-engage the lever and the CPU is held in the socket and pin contact is made. With a ZIF socket, you should never need to force a CPU down. If there is any [significant] resistance at all, i.e., enough to bend a pin, then the pins aren't aligned with the socket -- realign the CPU with its socket. Did you extract the CPU from the socket without releasing the ZIF lever? Did ZIF sockets go out of style at some point because they were unreliable or for some other reason? Fred Holmes At 02:21 PM 2/15/2009, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I have a computer question and it is aimed at the Do It Yourselfer. I was replacing a cooling fan/heat sink on a CPU last week and when I pulled off the old Heatsink it pulled the whole CPU out with it. When I put the CPU back in with the new heatsink/cooling fan, it bent (I mean really bent) some of the pins on the CPU. Has any one ever had luck un bending pins on a newer CPU? It is an Opteron 170 AMD socket 939 CPU. I have ordered a replacement (lower speed) CPU for this board, and decided to order a backup plan (Newer AM2+ board, CPU and memory) just in case. What should I use to unbend the pins? A sewing needle? Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for OS X replicating software?
Most people I know are happy with SuperDuper. Try it. I haven't tried Time Machine, but since my friends using Leopard still use SuperDuper, there must be some features missing in TM. Haven't tried it yet. Most of these utilities will not copy Time Machine files successfully. CCC's latest update now refuses to copy TM files. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Question
Has any one ever had luck un bending pins on a newer CPU? Back when I was a lab tech in college I became the official pin straightener. That was back in the days of vacuum tubes! I'm partial to needle-nose pliers. They give you a tight grip, which is important to maintain control of the pin. Needle-nose pliers made for jewlers will be small enough to do this job well. I like the ones with a sharp, pointed tip. Make sure the pliers close tightly at the tip (some don't). If a pin is mashed down it is best to grab it by its top with the tip of the pliers and pull straight up. That should get the pin near vertical. Then move the tip of the pliers to the bottom of the pin, keeping the pliers vertical, so the entirety of the pin is within the jaws of the pliers, rotate the pliers along the vertical axis and squeeze to get any kinks out of the pin. Best to pull all bent pins to near vertical first. Then go back to iron out any kinks. Work slowly and you probably will not break anything. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for OS X replicating software?
RSYNC and CRON are rock solid, the latter in use for several decades, the former for many years, thought not several decades. True, that is what CCC configures. My comments were not about that aspect. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for OS X replicating software?
I agree that dependable is pretty much everything when it comes to backups When I need reliability I use an ugly program called Synchronize! Plus X (qdea.com, $30). I have used for over 10 years. It rarely gives me problems. It is completely self contained, has lots of flexible options, and maintains a good activity log. The log is important for figuring out what happened when you weren't there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Question
While I can't vouch for whether the pins will straighten back up without breaking, what I would try is get some hobby shop tubing with an inside diameter that will just slip over a good pin while still having clearance from the adjacent pins. Then slip it over the bent pins, straightening as needed while you gently push down. I would suggest using a brass tube rather than aluminum so the metal doesn't transfer over to the gold pins. Take the CPU in with you when you go for sizing. Good luck. I've read of, but never tried, using a mechanical pencil, with the leads removed of course. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Question
First you have to get them high enough to catch but I can see that. .5,.7,.9 would work. Have to dig my old Pentel's out. Stewart At 04:18 PM 2/15/2009, you wrote: While I can't vouch for whether the pins will straighten back up without breaking, what I would try is get some hobby shop tubing with an inside diameter that will just slip over a good pin while still having clearance from the adjacent pins. Then slip it over the bent pins, straightening as needed while you gently push down. I would suggest using a brass tube rather than aluminum so the metal doesn't transfer over to the gold pins. Take the CPU in with you when you go for sizing. Good luck. I've read of, but never tried, using a mechanical pencil, with the leads removed of course. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Sharepoints
Does anyone know anything about the program/utility Sharepoints for the Mac? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] locating the pointer
I've recently started playing with Linux/Fedora. In it I can locate the pointer/cursor by pressing the control key. Is there anything like this for locating the pointer on a Mac or Windows machine? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] locating the pointer
Not directly like it, but there are a whole bunch of options for the icon that is the mouse pointer, and you can pick one that is very large and easily picked up if you jiggle the mouse. It doesn't always work, since even then there are some circumstances in which the mouse pointer becomes a thin line drawing that is hard to pick up. Fred Holmes At 09:18 PM 2/15/2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I've recently started playing with Linux/Fedora. In it I can locate the pointer/cursor by pressing the control key. Is there anything like this for locating the pointer on a Mac or Windows machine? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Sharepoints
Does anyone know anything about the program/utility Sharepoints for the Mac? It works great on Macs prior to OS X.5 (Leopard). It provides an easy GUI for configuring the Mac's NetInfo database to share files. It is free. It does not avoid the OS's limitation of 10 connections, for more you need to buy the $1,000 server version of the Mac OS. Apple added its own easy to use file sharing in OS X.5. It also eliminated the NetInfo database so Sharepoints was left high and dry. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] locating the pointer
In Windows it's Control PanelMousePointer Options Show location of mouse pointer when I press CTRL key. I've never found it useful though, as I prefer to set a larger cursor and maybe turn on cursor trails. On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Stephen Brownfield steveei...@verizon.net wrote: I've recently started playing with Linux/Fedora. In it I can locate the pointer/cursor by pressing the control key. Is there anything like this for locating the pointer on a Mac or Windows machine? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
