Re: [CGUYS] Thread Abuse [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL phone service
Yes, if you are going to make a departure from the topic in the subject line you should change the subject line. I promise to change the subject line if somebody else changes the subject, OK. Got it, thanks. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Tony sez, WAAHHH! ABUSE!! [was: DSL answering machines/DSL phone service]
That would be nice, wouldn't it! Don't change the subject. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mobile VOIP [was: Best Network]
What I took away from the windows weekly take on the new M$ mobile is that it was just fresh lipstick on the same old pig. The real new Windows Mobile OS was is development hell ala Vista. I can't tell you where I heard the rumor that M$ was leaning on the phone companies not to produce Android devices. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Linux newbie question
Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread. Both the typing su in the terminal and using the Add/Remove Software function worked! Those will be big helps in the future. I, however, was not able to log on as root but this doesn't matter since I could do it the other ways. Look forward to more newbie questions. Thanks, Steve Vicky Staubly wrote: Actually, was the first way you tried the System menu, Administration, Add / Remove Software? I just tried that myself, typed galeon into the search field, waited while it searched the online repoisitories, click the check-box when it appears, and click Apply. It will prompt you for the root password when it gets to the actual installation part. On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Vicky Staubly wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I am running Fedora 10. I went to download another browser, Galeon. It stated that Galeon is part of Fedora Extras, the community-driven part of Fedora. To install, simply type: yum install galeon. I went to terminal and typed: yum install galeon. I was told that I did not have privileges to do that. I know my root user password, but how do I identify myself as the root user when using the terminal. Root user is not one of the choices when I log on. What should I do? To do something as root, from a terminal window, you can do that 2 ways: su --- su will ask you for the root password yum install galeon exit--- this will quit being root and go back to being you or sudo yum install root --- sudo will ask you for the root password To log in as root from the login screen, try selecting the other option... I believe it will let you type in the username (in this case root). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu
Quoting Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com: But there are so many better (and even free) languages available: Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, etc. There is no good reason to continue to use old junk. Except for a refusal to keep up with technology and I won't be supporting that. Learning new languages keeps your skills fresh and helps get jobs done faster. Tom, haven't you, on numerous occasions, proudly proclaimed that you still use a 1.0 version of an email app (Claris?) because it does what you need? (Of course it's been a while, so maybe you've moved on.) I use an orphaned email program (PM Mail) that uses 8.3 file names, but then again, it generates it's own file names, so that's not really an issue. If I have a folder called cguys keepers, on disk it'll be cguys_k0.fld or some such. I use it because it keeps each individual email as a separate text file. If I get something that I don't trust , I can open Notepad and look at it. Still works in Win7. The best part about it, is that it's cross platform compatible with--wait for it--OS/2. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
I saw this in the news this morning and was wondering if anyone has tried it and can answer a question. The hardest part of port forwarding on a network is having to switch off DHCP, so you can tell the router which machine to forward which port for. So my question is: If I use this app, can I actually re-enable DHCP? If not, then I wonder why they call it 'simple' port forwarding? http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,76371-order,3/description.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
Looks like the app uses activex or some other scripting in IE to access your router and do the modifications for you. It tells you to identify the router type so that's my guess. It probably turns off DHCP for you... On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: I saw this in the news this morning and was wondering if anyone has tried it and can answer a question. The hardest part of port forwarding on a network is having to switch off DHCP, so you can tell the router which machine to forward which port for. So my question is: If I use this app, can I actually re-enable DHCP? If not, then I wonder why they call it 'simple' port forwarding? http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,76371-order,3/description.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
Scary, it is not clear what this utility does. So who knows what it is doing to your network and how to undo what it does if necessary. You don't have to switch off DHCP to forward ports. You just have to limit DHCP to handle a range of ports and give the target computer a static address that is out of the DHCP range. That is simple enough for me. I saw this in the news this morning and was wondering if anyone has tried it and can answer a question. The hardest part of port forwarding on a network is having to switch off DHCP, so you can tell the router which machine to forward which port for. So my question is: If I use this app, can I actually re-enable DHCP? If not, then I wonder why they call it 'simple' port forwarding? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Too Cranky to Upgrade? [Was: Anyone for 8.3?
Tom, haven't you, on numerous occasions, proudly proclaimed that you still use a 1.0 version of an email app (Claris?) because it does what you need? (Of course it's been a while, so maybe you've moved on.) Well I have not moved on, but I have planned my escape route. Now I just have to find enough spare time to transfer 1000s of stored emails to the new system. There was a period when I thought email clients had too many defects so I hyng back. That time is over and I see many good choices. I look forward to upgrading someday. I use it because it keeps each individual email as a separate text file. If I get something that I don't trust , I can open Notepad and look at it. Still works in Win7. The best part about it, is that it's cross platform compatible with--wait for it--OS/2. Yes the need to keep each individual email as a separate text file was one of my main reasons for not switching. Apple Mail now does that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
Right, but on home networks with only four or five IP's you may as well leave DHCP off and static the bunch. DHCP is very convenient when you add a new device or have somebody visiting with their laptop. I used to static everything. Now I have a range managed by DHCP and it is a great convenience. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] hard drive poll questions
Hitachi 0A38016 1 TB SATA II 16 MB92 bux Western Digital 10EACS 1 TB SATA II 98 bux Both carry 3 year warranty. I've got bad feelings about hitachi due to past experience with just one drive. I'm buying two of these which means I could save a whopping 12 bux, what does the list think? Any opinions on either drive? BTW, I won't be RAIDing the drives so the WD will still be ok if that's the pick. Polls close early, please vote soon and often. thanks. Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
*Totally* the same thing, except for the part that they're not. WFBs are argumentative solely for the sake of being argumentative. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
Looks like the app uses activex or some other scripting in IE to access your router and do the modifications for you. It tells you to identify the router type so that's my guess. It probably turns off DHCP for you... I still think it is creepy. Is your router's interface really that bad? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Too Cranky to Upgrade? [Was: Anyone for 8.3?
When I used eudora that was always easy...just drag the old emails into the new folder after a reinstall. If I'm not mistaken the drag/drop feature also works with thunderbird? I seem to recall doing that in the short time I had used Tbird. Mike On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tom, haven't you, on numerous occasions, proudly proclaimed that you still use a 1.0 version of an email app (Claris?) because it does what you need? (Of course it's been a while, so maybe you've moved on.) Well I have not moved on, but I have planned my escape route. Now I just have to find enough spare time to transfer 1000s of stored emails to the new system. There was a period when I thought email clients had too many defects so I hyng back. That time is over and I see many good choices. I look forward to upgrading someday. I use it because it keeps each individual email as a separate text file. If I get something that I don't trust , I can open Notepad and look at it. Still works in Win7. The best part about it, is that it's cross platform compatible with--wait for it--OS/2. Yes the need to keep each individual email as a separate text file was one of my main reasons for not switching. Apple Mail now does that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
I think sometimes those who do mess with their own routers or for that matter build their own computer might forget how someone who has no idea what an IP address is faces when looking at their routers interface. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Looks like the app uses activex or some other scripting in IE to access your router and do the modifications for you. It tells you to identify the router type so that's my guess. It probably turns off DHCP for you... I still think it is creepy. Is your router's interface really that bad? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu
funny you talkabout 5.1 ...I just downloaded 5.1forDOS which is posted4free and works perfectly on my xpSP3 machine in a dos window...now, I hafta remember all those old keystrokes I usta know so well ...I loved some of it, like the ability to place the cursor anywhere and delete the rest ...great for editing text... -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu At 05:29 AM 3/1/2009, Rich Schinnell wrote: Also a friend who is over 80, uses a really old word processor that requires the 8.3 file format and only prints to a parallel connected printer. And it does everything she wants. I have tried to bring her into the 21st century but she resists. Rich Hey, I'm still using WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS on a DOS machine, printing to an LX29000 printer. I use it whenever I want to make something look good. If it only has to be legible, I use MSWord on my Windows machine, which is most of the time. I'm sure I could make stuff look good using a high end graphics package on Windows, but I don't want the cost nor the learning curve for that. WP 5.1 does just fine. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
...so what's the big deal about safari4? It looks like safari3 and I don't see it being fast although I don't test the thing ...of course, I use Opera which is already faster than the other junk and so I'm spoiled... -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar [mailto:t...@tjpa.com] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Will Greed Kill Windows 7? Here's a much better article, written by someone who actually knows something about the subject: 10 Things Windows 7 Must Do To Succeed Just another angle on how MS is underperforming. This list adds to MS's problems with Windows 7. He bemoans that there is no easy upgrade path from XP to Win7 so I guess MS still thinks it can get us to rush out to buy Vista? And he sees no compelling reason to buy the upgrade. Meanwhile another article on their home page positively drools over the new Safari 4. Quite a stark contrast. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] hard drive poll questions
We've always found the Hitachi's to be the superior drive, since the days they were IBM. Usually costing a bit more though, which makes sense. Most of ours are upgraded before they fail. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Hitachi 0A38016 1 TB SATA II 16 MB 92 bux Western Digital 10EACS 1 TB SATA II 98 bux * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
is there any other reason (with the possible exception of some peoples' insatiable desire to irk any toms in range) ?? -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar [mailto:t...@tjpa.com] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: Re: Will Greed Kill Windows 7? *Totally* the same thing, except for the part that they're not. WFBs are argumentative solely for the sake of being argumentative. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
I still await where the proof is that MS is paying off news sites or leaning on handset makers to not support android. Tom posted the piece, perhaps he can post something a little more concrete? Take off your MS goggles and read the story I linked to. It is a detailed account by someone who was there and understands that market quite well. Your repeated vague denials with nothing to back them up is getting tiresome. Just read the story and let us know if there are any *specific* points you wish to refute. Remember what Monty Python has to say about just contradiction. Here is another story that you won't want to read... iPhone and Safari are dominating smartphone web usage http://blogs.computerworld.com/iphone_apple_netapplications_marketshare_num bers_android_wm6 Apple's share is north of 66%. Win Mobile, Android, and Symbian are all clustered at around 6% each. Java has half again the share held by MS. The future belongs to Apple, not Microsoft. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
So that is no you have no proof except vague ramblings of a MFB. That's all you had to say. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I still await where the proof is that MS is paying off news sites or leaning on handset makers to not support android. Tom posted the piece, perhaps he can post something a little more concrete? Take off your MS goggles and read the story I linked to. It is a detailed account by someone who was there and understands that market quite well. Your repeated vague denials with nothing to back them up is getting tiresome. Just read the story and let us know if there are any *specific* points you wish to refute. Remember what Monty Python has to say about just contradiction. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
I've used windows mobile...i've never thought it belonged to them. Apple should have the bulk of the marketshare in this area with how much better browsing is on the iphone/ipod touch. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Here is another story that you won't want to read... iPhone and Safari are dominating smartphone web usage http://blogs.computerworld.com/iphone_apple_netapplications_marketshare_num bers_android_wm6http://blogs.computerworld.com/iphone_apple_netapplications_marketshare_num%0Abers_android_wm6 Apple's share is north of 66%. Win Mobile, Android, and Symbian are all clustered at around 6% each. Java has half again the share held by MS. The future belongs to Apple, not Microsoft. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu
Can you switch the display into 132-column mode in the DOS box? Fred Holmes At 12:38 PM 3/2/2009, rleesimon wrote: funny you talkabout 5.1 ...I just downloaded 5.1forDOS which is posted4free and works perfectly on my xpSP3 machine in a dos window...now, I hafta remember all those old keystrokes I usta know so well ...I loved some of it, like the ability to place the cursor anywhere and delete the rest great for editing text... -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu At 05:29 AM 3/1/2009, Rich Schinnell wrote: Also a friend who is over 80, uses a really old word processor that requires the 8.3 file format and only prints to a parallel connected printer. And it does everything she wants. I have tried to bring her into the 21st century but she resists. Rich Hey, I'm still using WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS on a DOS machine, printing to an LX29000 printer. I use it whenever I want to make something look good. If it only has to be legible, I use MSWord on my Windows machine, which is most of the time. I'm sure I could make stuff look good using a high end graphics package on Windows, but I don't want the cost nor the learning curve for that. WP 5.1 does just fine. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] hard drive poll questions
Hitachi 0A38016 1 TB SATA II 16 MB92 bux Western Digital 10EACS 1 TB SATA II 98 bux Both carry 3 year warranty. I've got bad feelings about hitachi due to past experience with just one drive. I'm buying two of these which means I could save a whopping 12 bux, what does the list think? Any opinions on either drive? BTW, I won't be RAIDing the drives so the WD will still be ok if that's the pick. Polls close early, please vote soon and often. My vote: Hitachi or Seagate [not Maxtor, not low-end Seagate]. Hitachi [as well as Seagate] makes its own hardware, or carefully oversees the manufacturing so that the drives contain exactly what Hitachi dictates, including the chips inside. When a drive fails, a drive recovery firm can remove the disk and put it into any other Hitachi drive of the same model, and then work to recover the data. Western digital produces specs for their drives, then farms production out to a variety of manufacturing plants that promise to follow specs. If a WD drive fails, the data recovery process is more complicated. You have to have at least a half dozen bare, empty drives before you find one that can talk to the damaged disk. Both drives are equally reliable--more or less. As long as you back up your data frequently it doesn't matter. But if your data is critical, I'd go with reliable drive companies that oversee the manufacture of their products like Seagate, Toshiba, Samsung, Hitachi/IBM. I will never buy another Sony drive. Those are the only drives I've used that failed long before their time. I'm about to replace a Sony DVD-RW drive with a Pioneer drive to avoid the usual Sony issues. Save often. Backup often, too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
I need a 4-in-1 printer and have had it with replacing ink jet cartridges every 50 pages (or whatever the low number is) so am thinking of getting a laser 4-in-1 if it's affordable. Was in Staples recently and noticed they have 4-in-1 inkjets which claim (and the salesperson did as well) get far more pages per cartridge, and are actually cheaper per page (50% cheaper as I recall the statement). Some of the models were on sale, at least that week. I don't think I need color, at least not for current needs. So my questions are: 1) any suggestions for a model of a reasonably priced (under $200?) laser 4-in-1, and where to get one? Is this something to buy online? 2) Anyone with experience with these supposedly improved, higher capacity inkjet cartridges, and if so, whether this might be worth it over a laser printer, all costs considered? 3) Is is it a good idea, if one can afford it, to get a color laser printer, in case one has need for this in the future (maybe brochures, flyers?) 4) Is the print quality on a laser noticeably better to today's inkjets? Please don't suggest a Dell inkjet; I've had so much frustration with the one I have now! As always, I appreciate people with knowledge and experience on this list taking the time to answer such questions! Thanks Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Too Cranky to Upgrade? [Was: Anyone for 8.3?
If I'm not mistaken the drag/drop feature also works with thunderbird? I seem to recall doing that in the short time I had used Tbird. I recently handled a bunch of migrations where nobody was using the same software and found that getting everything into Thunderbird proved quite easy. I was not so in the past. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
This sounds complicated to me. As I recall, this Linksys WRT54GS has a enable/disable DHCP switch. Is there some option somewhere to set ranges? On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: You don't have to switch off DHCP to forward ports. You just have to limit DHCP to handle a range of ports and give the target computer a static address that is out of the DHCP range. That is simple enough for me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
...so what's the big deal about safari4? It looks like safari3 and I don't see it being fast although I don't test the thing ...of course, I use Opera which is already faster than the other junk and so I'm spoiled... You still got them MS goggles on. There are major UI changes, some generating intense debate. ZDNet's recent benchmarks show Opera performing very poorly. Only IE was slower. Safari was 4200% faster than IE, 750% faster than Opera. news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272792.html Recent reports show Safari's market share has grown to 10%. www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41580/113/ The only thing you keep on demonstrating is that WFBs are tremendously uninformed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
I've preferred lasers myself since they became affordable, but then I don't like all-in-ones. Keep in mind the cheap color lasers don't look as good as the better inkjets. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: 4) Is the print quality on a laser noticeably better to today's inkjets? Please don't suggest a Dell inkjet; I've had so much frustration with the one I have now! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] hard drive poll questions
Both carry 3 year warranty. I've got bad feelings about hitachi due to past experience with just one drive. I'm buying two of these which means I could save a whopping 12 bux, what does the list think? Any opinions on either drive? BTW, I won't be RAIDing the drives so the WD will still be ok if that's the pick. I have never found that one brand of hard drive was that much better than another. I have tossed many drives over the years. Rarely because of failure, but instead because their capacity shrank too much to still be useful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] hard drive poll questions
Good info Betty, thanks. It's hard to keep track of who is actually making hardware these days and I'll be the first to admit my bad feelings about hitachi are not founded in any real facts. To be honest I'm not worried about recovery as 1 of these drives is the main and the other a mirror, which is why I'll be getting two of them. One other question since it looks like I'll be heading towards hitachi, how is their advance RMA? I've found WD's to be fairly straightforward and fast, hitachi good as well in case I do get a bad drive? I've got one year instant exchange with the wholesaler I'm buying from but after that I'll be dealing with hitachi. Does sony still make the drives in their dvdrw's? I'd heard many of them were liteons? Thanks. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Hitachi 0A38016 1 TB SATA II 16 MB92 bux Western Digital 10EACS 1 TB SATA II 98 bux Both carry 3 year warranty. I've got bad feelings about hitachi due to past experience with just one drive. I'm buying two of these which means I could save a whopping 12 bux, what does the list think? Any opinions on either drive? BTW, I won't be RAIDing the drives so the WD will still be ok if that's the pick. Polls close early, please vote soon and often. My vote: Hitachi or Seagate [not Maxtor, not low-end Seagate]. Hitachi [as well as Seagate] makes its own hardware, or carefully oversees the manufacturing so that the drives contain exactly what Hitachi dictates, including the chips inside. When a drive fails, a drive recovery firm can remove the disk and put it into any other Hitachi drive of the same model, and then work to recover the data. Western digital produces specs for their drives, then farms production out to a variety of manufacturing plants that promise to follow specs. If a WD drive fails, the data recovery process is more complicated. You have to have at least a half dozen bare, empty drives before you find one that can talk to the damaged disk. Both drives are equally reliable--more or less. As long as you back up your data frequently it doesn't matter. But if your data is critical, I'd go with reliable drive companies that oversee the manufacture of their products like Seagate, Toshiba, Samsung, Hitachi/IBM. I will never buy another Sony drive. Those are the only drives I've used that failed long before their time. I'm about to replace a Sony DVD-RW drive with a Pioneer drive to avoid the usual Sony issues. Save often. Backup often, too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
Tom..you might have missed it, but he is using Opera. MS doesn't make Opera. I realize you like to yell at anyone who disagrees with you WFB WFB! so as to end any further discussion on your part, but yer knee was a little too quick on the draw on this one. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: ...so what's the big deal about safari4? It looks like safari3 and I don't see it being fast although I don't test the thing ...of course, I use Opera which is already faster than the other junk and so I'm spoiled... You still got them MS goggles on. There are major UI changes, some generating intense debate. ZDNet's recent benchmarks show Opera performing very poorly. Only IE was slower. Safari was 4200% faster than IE, 750% faster than Opera. news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-272792.html Recent reports show Safari's market share has grown to 10%. www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41580/113/ The only thing you keep on demonstrating is that WFBs are tremendously uninformed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
I have a HP 6480 (6450) Office jet. (Sams 6450-Other stores 6480 149-169 standard price) 4/1 uses both standard and high capacity ink cartridges. Very happy with it. 500+ pages on high capacity cartridges. 75-100 on standard and they run less than $20 per cart. 74/75 74xl/75xl. Fax, scanner, copier, printer. Only compliant is that it uses the same old HP feed from bottom apparatus. Oh by the way it is also wireless and works like a charm. And it duplexes as well. Stewart At 12:56 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: I need a 4-in-1 printer and have had it with replacing ink jet cartridges every 50 pages (or whatever the low number is) so am thinking of getting a laser 4-in-1 if it's affordable. Was in Staples recently and noticed they have 4-in-1 inkjets which claim (and the salesperson did as well) get far more pages per cartridge, and are actually cheaper per page (50% cheaper as I recall the statement). Some of the models were on sale, at least that week. I don't think I need color, at least not for current needs. So my questions are: 1) any suggestions for a model of a reasonably priced (under $200?) laser 4-in-1, and where to get one? Is this something to buy online? 2) Anyone with experience with these supposedly improved, higher capacity inkjet cartridges, and if so, whether this might be worth it over a laser printer, all costs considered? 3) Is is it a good idea, if one can afford it, to get a color laser printer, in case one has need for this in the future (maybe brochures, flyers?) 4) Is the print quality on a laser noticeably better to today's inkjets? Please don't suggest a Dell inkjet; I've had so much frustration with the one I have now! As always, I appreciate people with knowledge and experience on this list taking the time to answer such questions! Thanks Randall Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Tony B wrote: This sounds complicated to me. As I recall, this Linksys WRT54GS has a enable/disable DHCP switch. Is there some option somewhere to set ranges? Tony, I have a WRT54G (not S, but it should be similar). On the Basic Setup page, I have DHCP Server: Enable or Disable, followed by Starting IP address, and Maximum Number of DHCP Users. In my case, I have DHCP enabled, starting IP address of 192.168.1.100, and max users of 50. So, my range of DHCP assigned addresses will be 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.150. I use addresses below .100 for static addresses. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: You don't have to switch off DHCP to forward ports. You just have to limit DHCP to handle a range of ports and give the target computer a static address that is out of the DHCP range. That is simple enough for me. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
This sounds complicated to me. As I recall, this Linksys WRT54GS has a enable/disable DHCP switch. Is there some option somewhere to set ranges? Usually right next to the DHCP check box. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
Tom..you might have missed it, but he is using Opera. MS doesn't make Opera. I realize you like to yell at anyone who disagrees with you WFB WFB! so as to end any further discussion on your part, but yer knee was a little too quick on the draw on this one. I posted about both Opera and IE and they are both significantly slower than Safari (750% and 4200% respectively). This is realy strange Mike. Are you reading the posts too quickly to understand them? Or perhaps you are stoned? Or you can't spend much time on reading for comprehension at only 59¢ per post. I am really puzzled at your motivation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
3) Is is it a good idea, if one can afford it, to get a color laser printer, in case one has need for this in the future (maybe brochures, flyers?) I have been using a Dell color laser for the last 2 years. Work fine. Toner is expensive. Toner cart is good for 2000 prints. 4) Is the print quality on a laser noticeably better to today's inkjets? Laser prints much faster and looks fine. Works with regular paper. No wet prints to smear or transfer ink to other surfaces. Did I mention that printing is much faster? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Thread Abuse [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL p
I promise to change the subject line if somebody else changes the subject, OK. As you should and as I often do. We thank you for being a good citizen. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
I think I'm getting it now. Apparently I've been laboring for years under the belief that DHCP has to be disabled to forward ports. All I really have to do is ensure the DHCP server doesn't give out my own static address, which is configured on the computer, not the router. I tried installing Simple Port Forwarding and it looks nice. It is just a front end for the router, but it simplifies a lot of things. Since I already have this router set up the way I like it, I don't really need SPF, but I hope I remember it the next time I buy a router for myself. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Tony B wrote: This sounds complicated to me. As I recall, this Linksys WRT54GS has a enable/disable DHCP switch. Is there some option somewhere to set ranges? Tony, I have a WRT54G (not S, but it should be similar). On the Basic Setup page, I have DHCP Server: Enable or Disable, followed by Starting IP address, and Maximum Number of DHCP Users. In my case, I have DHCP enabled, starting IP address of 192.168.1.100, and max users of 50. So, my range of DHCP assigned addresses will be 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.150. I use addresses below .100 for static addresses. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: You don't have to switch off DHCP to forward ports. You just have to limit DHCP to handle a range of ports and give the target computer a static address that is out of the DHCP range. That is simple enough for me. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/ vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu
You are of course correct. Never use what works fast or quick and dirty, when you can spend the time learning something new. And not spend that time on enjoying life. Short term advantage vs. long term advantage. I can understand that argument. If you expect to die in the short term you should not bother to learn anything new. Better to invest all your time in repenting. I'm young enough to still see the benefit in improving my skills. Repenting would not be a good use of my time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
We have a Dell BW laser 4/1 printer at the office. HC toner is not all that bad and gets 5K per cart. It is networked and works flawlessly. I have looked at their color lasers and might go with one when our color laser craps out (It is a Konica Minolta and I would not reccomend it.) I really would like to look at a 4/1 that also duplexed in a Laser. Stewart At 02:36 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: 3) Is is it a good idea, if one can afford it, to get a color laser printer, in case one has need for this in the future (maybe brochures, flyers?) I have been using a Dell color laser for the last 2 years. Work fine. Toner is expensive. Toner cart is good for 2000 prints. 4) Is the print quality on a laser noticeably better to today's inkjets? Laser prints much faster and looks fine. Works with regular paper. No wet prints to smear or transfer ink to other surfaces. Did I mention that printing is much faster? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mobile VOIP [was: Best Network]
You can't, the article doesn't have anything about MS paying to or suppressing news. You really ought to sign up for some remedial reading classes. Despite racking up a big list of top-tier phone set manufacturers in its Android Open Handset Alliance, Google¹s mobile operating system was nearly non-existant among OHA members¹ announcements at the GSMA Mobile World Congress. Is Microsoft to blame? Is there any possibility that LG simply decided on its own to stay quiet about Android at MWC? No, money was involved. (Note the comma after No.) Why are Android¹s OHA partners unable to say anything about Android at the place to talk about the future of mobile phones? And why are HTC and LG, which have the most to gain from adopting a free operating system, all touting Windows Mobile instead? Perhaps they¹ve been bitten with Microsoft¹s Nigerian Bribe Bug. Once infected, companies have to exclusively chat up Windows, just like all the generic PC Makers who are deeply indebted to Microsoft¹s 'We Recommend Windows'co-marketing money. Etc. Etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
You said he had the MS goggles on..whatever those are, because he uses Opera. Under that logic anyone using a web browser on windows is a WFB...even the safari users. I'm really trying to keep up with your weird twisted logic, maybe if I *was* stoned AND on acid I might be able to follow you. I can't help but think you act like this on purpose to keep threads going, you can't possibly function IRL and make so little sense. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tom..you might have missed it, but he is using Opera. MS doesn't make Opera. I realize you like to yell at anyone who disagrees with you WFB WFB! so as to end any further discussion on your part, but yer knee was a little too quick on the draw on this one. I posted about both Opera and IE and they are both significantly slower than Safari (750% and 4200% respectively). This is realy strange Mike. Are you reading the posts too quickly to understand them? Or perhaps you are stoned? Or you can't spend much time on reading for comprehension at only 59¢ per post. I am really puzzled at your motivation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Simple port forwarding?
I think I'm getting it now. Apparently I've been laboring for years under the belief that DHCP has to be disabled to forward ports. All I really have to do is ensure the DHCP server doesn't give out my own static address, which is configured on the computer, not the router. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Now can we try to get you to stop using Windows? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mobile VOIP [was: Best Network]
I need remedial reading? Did you see the question mark at the end of 'Is Microsoft to blame?' See that question mark? It's an open question they never prove. The writer has a theory that MS is somehow keeping android out, he never comes close to proving it. Yeah, I see the comma...money is always involved. He takes money being involved in LG creating handsets for MS as meaning MS paid off LG to NOT do android? I know in your mixed up MS is the Sith world, 1 + 2 = MS IS EVIL, but it doesn't here in real life. This whole blog post is full of question marks with no answers, full of sentences being started with perhaps or maybe and why. Heavy on theory, not so good on facts. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-271256.html Try that, ZDNET actually *speaks* to Rich Miner, the point man for android at google. I know you'd rather get your 'facts' from MFB's who didn't attend the conference, but it might interest others to actually hear facts from the horses mouth and not the back end of roughlydrafted. Try posting your stuff to coast to coast, all those fake conspiracies get better play there. A short quote: *We think we are very much on track. We only released the open-source code late last October, Miner said in an interview with CNET News. We said we'd have the release software out in 2008, and we did. We said we'd have at least one phone out in 2008, and we launched that in October. * *Designing phones takes time, he added. If you understand anything about the design cycle for OEMs [original equipment manufacturers] to build handsets, it takes a good 12-to-18 months to go from paper to completion. And there are many handsets in development now. The second phone has been announced, and we expect to see more throughout the year, Miner said.* But then what does the head of Android know? Guys sitting in their basement writing for a blog that plays just to mac zealots obviously know more about Google then just a guy that works there. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: You can't, the article doesn't have anything about MS paying to or suppressing news. You really ought to sign up for some remedial reading classes. Despite racking up a big list of top-tier phone set manufacturers in its Android Open Handset Alliance, Google¹s mobile operating system was nearly non-existant among OHA members¹ announcements at the GSMA Mobile World Congress. Is Microsoft to blame? Is there any possibility that LG simply decided on its own to stay quiet about Android at MWC? No, money was involved. (Note the comma after No.) Why are Android¹s OHA partners unable to say anything about Android at the place to talk about the future of mobile phones? And why are HTC and LG, which have the most to gain from adopting a free operating system, all touting Windows Mobile instead? Perhaps they¹ve been bitten with Microsoft¹s Nigerian Bribe Bug. Once infected, companies have to exclusively chat up Windows, just like all the generic PC Makers who are deeply indebted to Microsoft¹s 'We Recommend Windows' co-marketing money. Etc. Etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
You said he had the MS goggles on..whatever those are, because he uses Opera. No. ...because he was spreading disinformation about a product that competes with MS. Something you know about all too well. Safari 4 is a very significant upgrade and will probably turn out to be the most advanced browser for either Macs or Windows PCs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
in the world of dot matrix, epson is tough to beat. they never established a trash line (HP,Brother, compaq,lexmark,xerox) to sell on the cheap at bestbuy and circuitcity. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductCategory.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yesoid=-8182 they also have a clearance center. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/BuyEpson/ccHome.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes they claim 540 pages with their high output black cartridge. their scanners have always also been one of the best. At 01:56 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: I need a 4-in-1 printer and have had it with replacing ink jet cartridges every 50 pages (or whatever the low number is) so am thinking of getting a laser 4-in-1 if it's affordable. Was in Staples recently and noticed they have 4-in-1 inkjets which claim (and the salesperson did as well) get far more pages per cartridge, and are actually cheaper per page (50% cheaper as I recall the statement). Some of the models were on sale, at least that week. I don't think I need color, at least not for current needs. So my questions are: 1) any suggestions for a model of a reasonably priced (under $200?) laser 4-in-1, and where to get one? Is this something to buy online? 2) Anyone with experience with these supposedly improved, higher capacity inkjet cartridges, and if so, whether this might be worth it over a laser printer, all costs considered? 3) Is is it a good idea, if one can afford it, to get a color laser printer, in case one has need for this in the future (maybe brochures, flyers?) 4) Is the print quality on a laser noticeably better to today's inkjets? Please don't suggest a Dell inkjet; I've had so much frustration with the one I have now! As always, I appreciate people with knowledge and experience on this list taking the time to answer such questions! Thanks Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
We will see. So far Firefox has been the most competitive against MS in a long time. Opera is a long distance 3 and Chrome and Safari and way back there. Only time will tell what becomes the new standard. Your predictions sometime sound like the stock boys telling us the second half of 09 will be great. I just have to wonder what they are popping or smoking. Stewart At 03:32 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: You said he had the MS goggles on..whatever those are, because he uses Opera. No. ...because he was spreading disinformation about a product that competes with MS. Something you know about all too well. Safari 4 is a very significant upgrade and will probably turn out to be the most advanced browser for either Macs or Windows PCs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * 0 Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
I've used my Brother MFC9840CDW color laser multifunction machine for a little over a year, and I like it very much. It costs more than you like, but to me it's worth it. I think that Brother has similar machines with fewer functions for less money. One feature that I think is important in the construction of a color laser printer is the number of passes that the paper makes through the printer. Older printer designs pass the paper through the machine four times, once for each of the cartridges. One way to find out if this is so, is to compare the print speed for color with the print speed for black only. If the speed for color is slower than for black, it's because the paper is making more than one pass through the machine. The print speed for the Brother is the same, color or black. The Brother MFC9840CDW does printing (of course) but it also has a legal size glass and functions as a copier, a scanner, and a fax machine. It has a duplexer, so that it prints on both sides of the paper. I don't think that any inkjet has a duplexer, as the paper comes out too wet to be immediately printed on the reverse side. It as has an automatic duplexing document feeder which functions for both copying and scanning. Most functions can be done from either the computer or the front panel. It connects to your computer wirelessly, or via Ethernet or USB2.0. It has a manual feed capability which I use for envelopes and labels. The paper tray holds about 250 sheets, and it's adjustable for letter or legal. The larger capacity cartridges are rated at 5,000 copies. It comes with standard cartridges which I think are rated at 2,000 copies. It has a USB connection on the front (not used for connecting to your computer), and you can plug in a flash drive and print from it or scan to it. I've never tried that USB stuff, so I can't vouch for it. The print quality for text and for color graphics is great. For color photos, especially of people, the quality is acceptable to me and to others that I've given prints to. However, an inkjet does better for photos. It has a one year in-home service warranty, which I never had to make use of. The telephone support is great. The people are Brother employees in the USA. One negative: For two of the original standard cartridges, when they were nearly empty, they began dribbling toner on the copies. So I had to replace the cartridges while they still had some toner in them. On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Ranbo wrote: I need a 4-in-1 printer and have had it with replacing ink jet cartridges every 50 pages (or whatever the low number is) so am thinking of getting a laser 4-in-1 if it's affordable. Was in Staples recently and noticed they have 4-in-1 inkjets which claim (and the salesperson did as well) get far more pages per cartridge, and are actually cheaper per page (50% cheaper as I recall the statement). Some of the models were on sale, at least that week. I don't think I need color, at least not for current needs. So my questions are: 1) any suggestions for a model of a reasonably priced (under $200?) laser 4-in-1, and where to get one? Is this something to buy online? 2) Anyone with experience with these supposedly improved, higher capacity inkjet cartridges, and if so, whether this might be worth it over a laser printer, all costs considered? 3) Is is it a good idea, if one can afford it, to get a color laser printer, in case one has need for this in the future (maybe brochures, flyers?) 4) Is the print quality on a laser noticeably better to today's inkjets? Please don't suggest a Dell inkjet; I've had so much frustration with the one I have now! As always, I appreciate people with knowledge and experience on this list taking the time to answer such questions! Thanks Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
Let me caution you on Epson nowadays. I have two Epsons and I rank them up there with HP's. However!!! And this is a BIG however. Epson has made it so no aftermarket cartridges can be used in their machines. They also set their machines to stop printing when a cartridge reports (not is, but reports) it is empty. I have a RX700 which is a sweet printer, but the carts were a one off, and can only bought after market, or on line, I do not know of many stores that carry them, but they do last a pretty good time. But it is no longer marketed. I have a CX8400 3/1 printer (no ADF/Fax 9400 is the 4/1 model) This uses the 69 series cartridge and it is a hog on ink. Usually the color is sold as a three pack, but you can replace them one by one, but not cheap. (17 each) Black has an XL version (68) but I have not found it easy to get. They have a couple of newer lines, that do include wireless (It was an imperative on last printer purchase) and I am not sure how it works. But be forewarned they do not always get high marks because of the cartridge issue, and that fact that it prevents you from printing if one is reported empty. Also note HP sells a number of levels of printers. Their photo printers are made just for that Photos, and get expensive printing documents all the time. the Office Jet and Pro Office Jet series are very good printers and do last much longer on ink than normal ink jets. I would not recommend a Lexmark even to Tom. ( :-) ) they are a straight ripoff magnet. Brother is OK for some folks (Their Lasers are not bad) Compaq I have had issues with over the years. Xerox is OK but they tend to be higher end. (Color and BW Laser) Stewart At 03:41 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: in the world of dot matrix, epson is tough to beat. they never established a trash line (HP,Brother, compaq,lexmark,xerox) to sell on the cheap at bestbuy and circuitcity. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductCategory.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yesoid=-8182 they also have a clearance center. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/BuyEpson/ccHome.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes they claim 540 pages with their high output black cartridge. their scanners have always also been one of the best. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] A curious problem
A friend has an older HP All-in-one (PSC 2410) physically connected to an older HP workstation by serial port. Machine runs XP Home. I shared the printer, and attempted to connect to it on a new HP laptop, also running XP Home. The laptop can find the printer, and when we try to install the drivers, the install package scans the laptop and comes up with Cannot install because your processor is not powerful enough to support this printer. 1.2 Ghz is below the minimum of 500 Mhz. It's not a networking problem; I have passed files back and forth between the machines with no problem. Anybody have any ideas, other than going through every driver in the package (a LOT, since there are scanner drivers as well)? Ellen H. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
As long as Steve Jobs is there I don't see a netbook. Jobs doesn't care about polls or customers views. This is his greatest strength and weakness. I just don't see him saying in a meeting, now we're going to run to the bottom. Course after saying that, they'll probaby announce a 399 netbook. Mike On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Here is an article on why Apple needs to get into the netbook market. http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-18438_7-10173772-82.html Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mobile VOIP [was: Best Network]
Me thinks that some here are peeing in the wind.. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
Your predictions sometime sound like the stock boys telling us the second half of 09 will be great. I just have to wonder what they are popping or smoking. My academic training and first decade of work was as a forecaster. So I'm intensely interested in looking ahead. I also think that the best way to make good decisions today is by understanding where things are going in the future. To use an analogy: when driving it is better to look through the windshield than in the rear-view mirror. Unfortunately for WFBs, the apple of their eye is a very badly managed company. Don't blame the messanger! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
Anyone have knowledge or experience relevant to this Staples claim that there are inkjets which are MORE cost effective per page (just counting printing costs) than lasers? Can't find the make or model off-hand they were referring to but was on sale there about 10 days ago. I have not looked recently, but lasers have been less costly for a long time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A curious problem
The laptop can find the printer, and when we try to install the drivers, the install package scans the laptop and comes up with Cannot install because your processor is not powerful enough to support this printer. 1.2 Ghz is below the minimum of 500 Mhz. Looks like the installer can't count past 1000. Where did you find these drivers? HP is notorious for shipping products with old drivers. Did you download fresh drivers? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
Epson has made it so no aftermarket cartridges can be used in their machines. They also set their machines to stop printing when a cartridge reports (not is, but reports) it is empty. If an inkjet cart runs to empty it will pump air into the printer's feed tubes. This is hard for an owner to repair. So the printer will have to be sent out for service or replaced. This will make the owner very unhappy. It is good engineering to make sure that this will not happen. Well worth leaving a few cents of ink behind. Don't take advice from people who don't understand how inkjet printers work. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
Collision Avoidance Technology teachers will tell you. If you are only looking through the windshield you are looking for an accident. (You would be surprised at the number of accidents that come from the side or even from the rear.) When during use all your mirrors and scan, looking for problems so you can avoid them. I have never been a forecaster, but my years of experience have shown me, past events readily have a lot of influence on current and even future events, but no one, and I mean no one, can see the future!!! Only one entity know the future and he is not talking. Stewart At 05:24 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: My academic training and first decade of work was as a forecaster. So I'm intensely interested in looking ahead. I also think that the best way to make good decisions today is by understanding where things are going in the future. To use an analogy: when driving it is better to look through the windshield than in the rear-view mirror. Unfortunately for WFBs, the apple of their eye is a very badly managed company. Don't blame the messanger! Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
Notice they said build one that is a couple hundred above the price of many netbooks? My son paid less than $300 for his (295) This article said 599 699, which is the high level of a netbook, and that the author (Who must be a MFB) would be willing to pay it for the premium of having a Mac Netbook. People are assuming these are pieces of crap. They are not. They are pretty well made, use a smaller screen which is plentiful (ever seen the portable DVD players? Same size) and do not include and optical drive and in some cases (at a premium) include a SSD. My sons included a 120GB drive, and two (count them) two SD card slots, one for added physical memory and one as a card reader. Battery on them lasts for a decent amount of time. They use a decent (albeit low end) processor that is powerful enough to get what needs to get done on that format machine. (It is a web machine, word processor etc. NOT a video work station etc.) It is powerful enough to read and make DVD's and CD' with an external burner/reader plugged in. Stewart At 05:31 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Pundits have been insisting for years that Apple had to build cheap computers and have predicted that new products (like the iPod) would not sell because they were too expensive. Apple has never listened and has consistently proven the pundits wrong. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
some of the laser cartridges, particularly canon, or color are extremely expensive. probably charge enough to make them more expensive than inkjet. i know hp decided to get into that mode, and xerox one upped them. a full set of full color cartridges cost more than the machine. At 06:26 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Anyone have knowledge or experience relevant to this Staples claim that there are inkjets which are MORE cost effective per page (just counting printing costs) than lasers? Can't find the make or model off-hand they were referring to but was on sale there about 10 days ago. I have not looked recently, but lasers have been less costly for a long time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
WFBs are argumentative solely for the sake of being argumentative. Apologies, me' lord. I promise to you, sire, that I will never again point out the gaping flaws in your logic. I am but a humble servant to your ravings. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
Tom you did not read what I wrote, I said reported. This indicates it may not be out of ink. Many of these companies have admitted, they put a timer type of chip on the cartridges to count number of copies made, and default it to report empty at the number of copies made. (not empty carridge) This is bad business. On Epson's you are totally correct. They use a pump and pump the ink to the print head which is separate from the cartridge. On the Konica/Minolta Color Laser, it recently reported an error and stopped printing. Turns out that they have a fuse on the Drum that blows after so many print jobs. replaced the fuse and I am back printing. Drum will have to be replaced some time, but it is not used up yet. My Epson also stops when the ink is out, and when I replace the cartridge I can hear the printer pumping ink to the print head. I also know if I leave it sit too long, I need to run a couple of cleaning cycles to clean the head so it will print properly again. Ink Jet printer manufacturers have become Ink Makers who also sell printers, as the profit margin on the ink is a hell of a lot higher than it is on the printer, and they know they can make tons more money on Ink than printer. An HP does not have pumps (unless you get one of the L models) because the print head is also part of the cartridge. I have been a little leery of the HP pro series as it does have wonderfully separate ink cartridges, but it also sports two print heads. I have not read how long they will last. Stewart At 05:43 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: If an inkjet cart runs to empty it will pump air into the printer's feed tubes. This is hard for an owner to repair. So the printer will have to be sent out for service or replaced. This will make the owner very unhappy. It is good engineering to make sure that this will not happen. Well worth leaving a few cents of ink behind. Don't take advice from people who don't understand how inkjet printers work. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
Rev--Which brand did he buy? My son paid less than $300 for his (295) This article said 599 699, which is the high level of a netbook, and that the author (Who must be a MFB) would be willing to pay it for the premium of having a Mac Netbook. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
At least with HP's I have been running them out of ink for years and they always print well again once I replace the empty cartridiges. Might not be true of Epson's but they have always produced quality prints but been problematic about environmental conditions etc.. Good reason to not buy one for conventional printing... db Tom Piwowar wrote: Epson has made it so no aftermarket cartridges can be used in their machines. They also set their machines to stop printing when a cartridge reports (not is, but reports) it is empty. If an inkjet cart runs to empty it will pump air into the printer's feed tubes. This is hard for an owner to repair. So the printer will have to be sent out for service or replaced. This will make the owner very unhappy. It is good engineering to make sure that this will not happen. Well worth leaving a few cents of ink behind. Don't take advice from people who don't understand how inkjet printers work. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
Acer AOA150-1555 Walmart (I misstated the price by $3) $298.00 or a similar model this one sports a 160 GB drive. But the similar model (1700 series) sports a 120 HD and comes in 4 different colors. Stewart At 06:21 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Rev--Which brand did he buy? My son paid less than $300 for his (295) This article said 599 699, which is the high level of a netbook, and that the author (Who must be a MFB) would be willing to pay it for the premium of having a Mac Netbook. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
That isn't necessarily meaninfgul since vendors sometimes/ often sell printers below cost in order to up their ink sales... db gerald wrote: some of the laser cartridges, particularly canon, or color are extremely expensive. probably charge enough to make them more expensive than inkjet. i know hp decided to get into that mode, and xerox one upped them. a full set of full color cartridges cost more than the machine. At 06:26 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Anyone have knowledge or experience relevant to this Staples claim that there are inkjets which are MORE cost effective per page (just counting printing costs) than lasers? Can't find the make or model off-hand they were referring to but was on sale there about 10 days ago. I have not looked recently, but lasers have been less costly for a long time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
After years of swearing by HP inkjets, now I think they have gotten junky and believe that Canon printers are the best on the market for general all in one inkjet printers. The two Canon models that sell for about $74 and $129 (wifi) at newegg are wonderfully easy to use and well constructed. Both top and bottom feed and they have wonderful user interfaces that are similar to professional copiers.. db Tony B wrote: I've preferred lasers myself since they became affordable, but then I don't like all-in-ones. Keep in mind the cheap color lasers don't look as good as the better inkjets. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: 4) Is the print quality on a laser noticeably better to today's inkjets? Please don't suggest a Dell inkjet; I've had so much frustration with the one I have now! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
I forgot to mention it has a built in webcam. Stewart At 06:21 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Rev--Which brand did he buy? My son paid less than $300 for his (295) This article said 599 699, which is the high level of a netbook, and that the author (Who must be a MFB) would be willing to pay it for the premium of having a Mac Netbook. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] hard drive poll questions
After buying many drives for servers, I find WD's to generally be the most cost effective and reliable and a good company to work with always. I most always buy thu newegg and alway try to buy WD 7200 rpm, large cache models with a 5 yr. warranty and if not that, the 3 yr. warranty models. If you don't set NewEgg's search tool to view all models instead of best rated or best deal you will just get the one's they are pushing and not necessarily the best deal or the best model. Some manufacturers like Seagate are having significant problems with their 1 TB + drives. 3 or 4 years ago Hitachi was having drive reliability issues but I don't know about now... db mike wrote: Good info Betty, thanks. It's hard to keep track of who is actually making hardware these days and I'll be the first to admit my bad feelings about hitachi are not founded in any real facts. To be honest I'm not worried about recovery as 1 of these drives is the main and the other a mirror, which is why I'll be getting two of them. One other question since it looks like I'll be heading towards hitachi, how is their advance RMA? I've found WD's to be fairly straightforward and fast, hitachi good as well in case I do get a bad drive? I've got one year instant exchange with the wholesaler I'm buying from but after that I'll be dealing with hitachi. Does sony still make the drives in their dvdrw's? I'd heard many of them were liteons? Thanks. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Hitachi 0A38016 1 TB SATA II 16 MB92 bux Western Digital 10EACS 1 TB SATA II 98 bux Both carry 3 year warranty. I've got bad feelings about hitachi due to past experience with just one drive. I'm buying two of these which means I could save a whopping 12 bux, what does the list think? Any opinions on either drive? BTW, I won't be RAIDing the drives so the WD will still be ok if that's the pick. Polls close early, please vote soon and often. My vote: Hitachi or Seagate [not Maxtor, not low-end Seagate]. Hitachi [as well as Seagate] makes its own hardware, or carefully oversees the manufacturing so that the drives contain exactly what Hitachi dictates, including the chips inside. When a drive fails, a drive recovery firm can remove the disk and put it into any other Hitachi drive of the same model, and then work to recover the data. Western digital produces specs for their drives, then farms production out to a variety of manufacturing plants that promise to follow specs. If a WD drive fails, the data recovery process is more complicated. You have to have at least a half dozen bare, empty drives before you find one that can talk to the damaged disk. Both drives are equally reliable--more or less. As long as you back up your data frequently it doesn't matter. But if your data is critical, I'd go with reliable drive companies that oversee the manufacture of their products like Seagate, Toshiba, Samsung, Hitachi/IBM. I will never buy another Sony drive. Those are the only drives I've used that failed long before their time. I'm about to replace a Sony DVD-RW drive with a Pioneer drive to avoid the usual Sony issues. Save often. Backup often, too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
Tom you did not read what I wrote, I said reported. This indicates it may not be out of ink. No, I did read what you wrote. The Epson printer is designed to do that for good reason. It estimates the remaining ink and knowing that estimates are not precise it stops well short of the danger point. Many of these companies have admitted, they put a timer type of chip on the cartridges to count number of copies made, and default it to report empty at the number of copies made. (not empty carridge) This is bad business. That is HP, not Epson. HP also enforces region codes so you can't buy low-cost carts from another part of the world. What HP does is bad, what Epson is doing is necessary to not ruin the printer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
At least with HP's I have been running them out of ink for years and they always print well again once I replace the empty cartridiges. Might not be true of Epson's but they have always produced quality prints but been problematic about environmental conditions etc.. Good reason to not buy one for conventional printing... HP is selling you a new print head as part of the deal. Epson is just selling a tank full of ink. These two designs will operate very differently. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
If you are only looking through the windshield you are looking for an accident. Now you are just being argumentative and silly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
Notice they said build one that is a couple hundred above the price of many netbooks? Why not just buy an iTouch? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
Nope just had a presentation from a CTA school! That is exactly what they teach! Proven results. It is called accident avoidance. I have finally figured out your illogic. Stewart At 06:45 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: If you are only looking through the windshield you are looking for an accident. Now you are just being argumentative and silly. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
At least he didn't call you a WFB. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: If you are only looking through the windshield you are looking for an accident. Now you are just being argumentative and silly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
At 06:47 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Why not just buy an iTouch? Because they want something easier to use. I do not buy an MP3 player to cruise the net. Hey if you do not want one, don't buy one. Your logic dictates your tastes are what everyone wants. Sorry I do not want what you want. My tastes are different. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A curious problem
I assume you mean it's hooked up via USB, not serial. I wouldn't imagine you actually need any special drivers for it; not just for printing anyway. You can't just send a test page from notepad to it without WinXP demanding drivers? 2009/3/2 Ellen Rains Harris el...@goodshiptabasco.com: A friend has an older HP All-in-one (PSC 2410) physically connected to an older HP workstation by serial port. Machine runs XP Home. I shared the printer, and attempted to connect to it on a new HP laptop, also running XP Home. The laptop can find the printer, and when we try to install the drivers, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu
I went into the prefs and saw only a variety of 80 column selections ...possibly there is a command line parameter for starting the program with your filespec ...I didn't come upon it... -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:27 PM To: rleesimon Cc: 'Computer Guys Discussion List' Subject: RE: Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu Can you switch the display into 132-column mode in the DOS box? Fred Holmes At 12:38 PM 3/2/2009, rleesimon wrote: funny you talkabout 5.1 ...I just downloaded 5.1forDOS which is posted4free and works perfectly on my xpSP3 machine in a dos window...now, I hafta remember all those old keystrokes I usta know so well ...I loved some of it, like the ability to place the cursor anywhere and delete the rest great for editing text... -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu At 05:29 AM 3/1/2009, Rich Schinnell wrote: Also a friend who is over 80, uses a really old word processor that requires the 8.3 file format and only prints to a parallel connected printer. And it does everything she wants. I have tried to bring her into the 21st century but she resists. Rich Hey, I'm still using WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS on a DOS machine, printing to an LX29000 printer. I use it whenever I want to make something look good. If it only has to be legible, I use MSWord on my Windows machine, which is most of the time. I'm sure I could make stuff look good using a high end graphics package on Windows, but I don't want the cost nor the learning curve for that. WP 5.1 does just fine. Fred Holmes *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
Many of the HP printers have a Printhead/Ink tank technology. Their newer Pro series uses separate ink tanks and two print heads (one to handle two cartridges and the other to handle the other two.) These are designated with an L before their number. Stewart At 07:00 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Although they used to, I am not sure that HP more recent designs include print heads any more. ? db Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
There are rumors around of a touch that is for example double the size of the current touch that could compete in the netbook space. Could be possible I suppose, the product could be very interesting. Good chance that I would be an early adopter for that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
I do not buy an MP3 player to cruise the net. It is no more an MP3 player than your PC is an MP3 player. It is a computer, with tons of software, including an MP3 player. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
At least he didn't call you a WFB. I can tell them apart. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
If you are only looking through the windshield you are looking for an accident. Now you are just being argumentative and silly. His analysis, and conclusion, of your half-baked analogy made crystal-clear sense. Your post made me think of doomed to repeat history. Well, mostly just doomed. Now, go back behind the curtain and keep projecting the big, green, yelling head. (Pssst, Rev, just tell him you're there for a brain. He loves to hand out diplomas.) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
Unfortunately for WFBs, the apple of their eye is a very badly managed company. Really? Google doesn't seem so bad to me. I do agree about MS, though. We need a Ballmerectomi! Stat! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
Tom you again did not ready you are to scan all your mirrors as part of your driving. To ignore them means you are toast. Stewart At 07:31 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Nope just had a presentation from a CTA school! If you spend more than a tiny fraction of time looking into that rear view you are toast. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
No my computer is much more than an MP3 player it just so happens it can do that also. But that is not it's main purpose. Stewart At 07:29 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: I do not buy an MP3 player to cruise the net. It is no more an MP3 player than your PC is an MP3 player. It is a computer, with tons of software, including an MP3 player. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
Go for it! I agree. Stewart At 07:35 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Unfortunately for WFBs, the apple of their eye is a very badly managed company. Really? Google doesn't seem so bad to me. I do agree about MS, though. We need a Ballmerectomi! Stat! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
I gotcha all beat. I am a GFB. Stewart At 07:27 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: At least he didn't call you a WFB. I can tell them apart. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mobile VOIP [was: Best Network]
Jailbreaking is a nondestructive software change to the Touch. It sounds like something you'd do with sharp metal tools, but it's not. A jailbroken iPod Touch or iPhone can easily be returned to the original state. iPod Touch as phone, details, 2009: http://touchmods.wordpress.com/previous-sip-voip-releases/ http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120447 The MacAlly iVoice III microphone works on Gen 1 Touch only if you plug the headphone in to the iPod jack, not the iVoice mic. Will find more info for myself soon. My son gave me his Touch for Christmas when he got an iPhone. This is FUN! Does your iTouch need to be jailbroken? I thought that was only required of the iPhone models. If that is the case I guess I will start paying more attention to Android phones. There's a version of Skype for mobile phones that should work on the second generation iPod Touch. I have a 1st gen which needs an external microphone that I can either buy for $50 or hack myself with a few parts and a soldering gun, plus it needs to be jailbroken. Unlocking your GSM WiFi phone may not allow you to use Skype or similar because companies like Orange, O2, ATT and T-Mobile have disabled those features on their branded WiFi/GSM phones if you don't purchase a data package. Of course that makes using mobile VOIP and Skype almost pointless anyway. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu
In order for that preference to be displayed, WP 5.1 must see a video card/driver that is capable of 132-column text mode. That has long since been dropped in Windows, I believe. It's one of the the things that keeps my DOS machine alive. Fred Holmes At 08:04 PM 3/2/2009, rleesimon wrote: I went into the prefs and saw only a variety of 80 column selections possibly there is a command line parameter for starting the program with your filespec ...I didn't come upon it... -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:27 PM To: rleesimon Cc: 'Computer Guys Discussion List' Subject: RE: Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu Can you switch the display into 132-column mode in the DOS box? Fred Holmes At 12:38 PM 3/2/2009, rleesimon wrote: funny you talkabout 5.1 ...I just downloaded 5.1forDOS which is posted4free and works perfectly on my xpSP3 machine in a dos window...now, I hafta remember all those old keystrokes I usta know so well ...I loved some of it, like the ability to place the cursor anywhere and delete the rest great for editing text... -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Anyone for 8.3? [Was: MS Sues TomTom for Using Linu At 05:29 AM 3/1/2009, Rich Schinnell wrote: Also a friend who is over 80, uses a really old word processor that requires the 8.3 file format and only prints to a parallel connected printer. And it does everything she wants. I have tried to bring her into the 21st century but she resists. Rich Hey, I'm still using WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS on a DOS machine, printing to an LX29000 printer. I use it whenever I want to make something look good. If it only has to be legible, I use MSWord on my Windows machine, which is most of the time. I'm sure I could make stuff look good using a high end graphics package on Windows, but I don't want the cost nor the learning curve for that. WP 5.1 does just fine. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A curious problem
If you can temporarily set the processor speed to something lower than 1 GHz in order to install the driver, do so, and then set the processor speed back up. The software was probably written when 500 MHz was top-of-the-line. Fred Hlmes At 05:18 PM 3/2/2009, Ellen Rains Harris wrote: A friend has an older HP All-in-one (PSC 2410) physically connected to an older HP workstation by serial port. Machine runs XP Home. I shared the printer, and attempted to connect to it on a new HP laptop, also running XP Home. The laptop can find the printer, and when we try to install the drivers, the install package scans the laptop and comes up with Cannot install because your processor is not powerful enough to support this printer. 1.2 Ghz is below the minimum of 500 Mhz. It's not a networking problem; I have passed files back and forth between the machines with no problem. Anybody have any ideas, other than going through every driver in the package (a LOT, since there are scanner drivers as well)? Ellen H. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
Tom you again did not ready you are to scan all your mirrors as part of your driving. I take Metro. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
I need a 4-in-1 printer and have had it with replacing ink jet cartridges every 50 pages (or whatever the low number is) so am thinking of getting a laser 4-in-1 if it's affordable. Was in Staples recently and noticed they have 4-in-1 inkjets which claim (and the salesperson did as well) get far more pages per cartridge, and are actually cheaper per page (50% cheaper as I recall the statement). Some of the models were on sale, at least that week. I don't think I need color, at least not for current needs. So my questions are: 1) any suggestions for a model of a reasonably priced (under $200?) laser 4-in-1, and where to get one? Is this something to buy online? IMPORTANT: Do you need to use a fax? If not, buy separate printers and scanner. For the price of a good all-in-one, you can get a basic laser printer, an inkjet and a scanner. Find room for them. You can still scan and fax from your computer without a dedicated fax machine. I have an Epson printer that I got back with our Spanish bondi iMac. It still prints well, doesn't clog. Epsons use more ink than some other brands, but are reliable. Only other inkjet I'd consider is a Canon PIXMA. When the Epson 740 finally dies, I'll get an inkjet with separate color cartridges, not a color laser, since I use it to print photos [Canon is better for photos]. My Epson scanner is very good, so are Microtek, Canon, and some others. We have a small HP laser and a basic Samsung ML2010. Lasers usually have much better print quality than inkjets and cost considerably less to use--3,000-5,000 pages per toner cartridge that costs from $20-$80, depending on the brand and model. Combined, the cost of the laser, scanner and inkjet is about the same as an all-in-one, except that when one breaks you don't have to throw everything away. Start with a new B/W laser printer. You can buy online, but with patience, if you watch the Sunday ads, you can do as well at local stores. Got the scanner at Beast Buy, one of the printers at Staples, other at CompUSA before it closed. Otherwise, buy online at a store that has cheap shipping, good rep and a good return policy. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
I am a GFB. I bet G doesn't stand for Google. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple and Netbooks
No my computer is much more than an MP3 player it just so happens it can do that also. But that is not it's main purpose. Ditto for the iTouch. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
You would be right. Stewart At 08:25 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: I am a GFB. I bet G doesn't stand for Google. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Greed Kill Windows 7?
That explains that. Stewart At 08:26 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: Tom you again did not ready you are to scan all your mirrors as part of your driving. I take Metro. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Would like suggestions for 4-in-1 printer
Most of the printers I have bought I bought for a specific purpose. I have a brother 2070N. Networkable BW laser that is ethernet capable. Great machine. I have an Epson RX700 that prints on CD's and DVD's and that is the main purpose I bought it for. I also have a HP 6450 that I use for printing color documents. It also has a networkable scanning function, and ADF capabilities. A couple of those are multi function, but I bought them each for a specific purpose. Fax is at the low end of what I need (I do not do a lot of faxing), but the HP is capable. I also still have a HP5510 that does well faxing. Brother was bought on line. Newer HP bought at Sams club. Epson bought from Epson (free shipping) Follow Betty's advice. (I may not agree with Betty on the Canon but we each have our preferences) Stewart At 08:25 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote: IMPORTANT: Do you need to use a fax? If not, buy separate printers and scanner. For the price of a good all-in-one, you can get a basic laser printer, an inkjet and a scanner. Find room for them. You can still scan and fax from your computer without a dedicated fax machine. I have an Epson printer that I got back with our Spanish bondi iMac. It still prints well, doesn't clog. Epsons use more ink than some other brands, but are reliable. Only other inkjet I'd consider is a Canon PIXMA. When the Epson 740 finally dies, I'll get an inkjet with separate color cartridges, not a color laser, since I use it to print photos [Canon is better for photos]. My Epson scanner is very good, so are Microtek, Canon, and some others. We have a small HP laser and a basic Samsung ML2010. Lasers usually have much better print quality than inkjets and cost considerably less to use--3,000-5,000 pages per toner cartridge that costs from $20-$80, depending on the brand and model. Combined, the cost of the laser, scanner and inkjet is about the same as an all-in-one, except that when one breaks you don't have to throw everything away. Start with a new B/W laser printer. You can buy online, but with patience, if you watch the Sunday ads, you can do as well at local stores. Got the scanner at Beast Buy, one of the printers at Staples, other at CompUSA before it closed. Otherwise, buy online at a store that has cheap shipping, good rep and a good return policy. Betty Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] hard drive poll questions
I buy Seagate drives--their top ones; haven't been disappointed. Our PM 6100 ca. 1994 has one in it that sounds like an airplane warming up, but still works after 14 years--lasted longer than most dogs. However, I'm considering a Hitachi 500GB for my MacBook. I've only had one other Hitachi drive before, and it was good. Don't know about their advance RMA. Do you really want a drive that the mfg expects you to need RMA? Maybe I'll get a Seagate, Samsung, or Toshiba drive instead. I don't care who makes Sony drives. Sony is a primarily a marketing and distribution company. If Lite-on makes their drives and they're OK, buy Lite-on. Don't get Sony. You'll regret it. Better, get a Pioneer. My Sony monitor is flickering right now--ouch. I don't hate my Sony-Ericsson phone yet because the Ericsson part works OK [battery sucks]; good thing it was free from my son, and he didn't have to pay back the contract $ when he got his iPhone only 7 months into his contract. Good info Betty, thanks. It's hard to keep track of who is actually making hardware these days and I'll be the first to admit my bad feelings about hitachi are not founded in any real facts. To be honest I'm not worried about recovery as 1 of these drives is the main and the other a mirror, which is why I'll be getting two of them. One other question since it looks like I'll be heading towards hitachi, how is their advance RMA? I've found WD's to be fairly straightforward and fast, hitachi good as well in case I do get a bad drive? I've got one year instant exchange with the wholesaler I'm buying from but after that I'll be dealing with hitachi. Does sony still make the drives in their dvdrw's? I'd heard many of them were liteons? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - In rare handover of CPU blueprints, Intel outsourcing some Atom manufacturing to TSMC
Personal Message: Intel is making some bold moves. = A news article has been sent to you by: revsamarsh...@earthlink.net courtesy of myEarthLink News In rare handover of CPU blueprints, Intel outsourcing some Atom manufacturing to TSMC http://my.earthlink.net/article/tec?guid=20090302/49ab67d0_3426_1335020090302-809241367 = myEarthLink News http://my.earthlink.net/channel/NEWS * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
