[CGUYS] Make Disk Image In Mac OS 10 Use It In Win XP; How Can I?
I purchased a MSI Wind U100-432US netbook, mainly for use as a jukebox using iTunes. [It works great!] I've never had a Windows machine before, having used Macs since they were a Lisa. There is a data DVD that came with the netbook, that I'd like to put into the netbook. I tried using both Mac OS 10.5.6 Disk Utility and Toast 7 to make a disk image compatible with Wind XP, but nothing I've done seems to work. Can someone please tell me how to do this? The Help file in XP has nothing about disk images. Does this mean that unlike the Mac, in which the OS makes, mounts, and reads disk images; that XP has no native support for disk images, and external software must be obtained? Could it be that the disk images that I made were okay but XP didn't know what to do with them? BTW, I've been transferring files from the Mac to the netbook using a Transcend 16 GB SDHC card [14.96 GB formatted]. It came with a reader, which I use with the Mac, and the netbook has a built in reader. Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Make Disk Image In Mac OS 10 Use It In Win XP; How Can I?
Alvin, I am confused. Not sure I can figure out what you are trying to do. So, here is my guess: 1. The netbook has no internal DVD drive, and you don't have an external one you could hook up. 2. You want to make the DVD available as a DVD to the Windows XP netbook. 3. In which case, you are correct that XP, unlike the Mac or Linux, can't natively mount a disk image (usually distributed as a .ISO file for cross-platform compatibility, or many other formats that are used by specific software or the like). 4. I don't know enough about Windows to say if there is decent freeware to do this. I know there are products out there you can buy. Probably a Google search, or someone more knowledgeable on the list. 5. I suspect that if you just transferred the file structure to the netbook hard drive, that it would more or less act the same as if you had mounted it as another drive. So that may be worth trying. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Alvin Auerbach alvin.auerb...@verizon.netwrote: I purchased a MSI Wind U100-432US netbook, mainly for use as a jukebox using iTunes. [It works great!] I've never had a Windows machine before, having used Macs since they were a Lisa. There is a data DVD that came with the netbook, that I'd like to put into the netbook. I tried using both Mac OS 10.5.6 Disk Utility and Toast 7 to make a disk image compatible with Wind XP, but nothing I've done seems to work. Can someone please tell me how to do this? The Help file in XP has nothing about disk images. Does this mean that unlike the Mac, in which the OS makes, mounts, and reads disk images; that XP has no native support for disk images, and external software must be obtained? Could it be that the disk images that I made were okay but XP didn't know what to do with them? BTW, I've been transferring files from the Mac to the netbook using a Transcend 16 GB SDHC card [14.96 GB formatted]. It came with a reader, which I use with the Mac, and the netbook has a built in reader. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500ref=mf * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I Bought a BIG Mistake
UPDATE: I sent the Coby back to Amazon for a refund. After a few recharge cycles the glue that held on the front plate stopped working entirely. I think that is enough to justify a return so I won't mention its countless other faults. I'm glad to see it gone. I am no longer looking for a speaker because I did follow JDY's recommendation and got something similar to his... I have one of these and it is good enough for spoken word sort of things. http://www.hdaccessory.com/servlet/the-246/ipod-touch-classic-video/Detail at $11 it should be cheap enough and it is very portable. So reading through the thread (thanks to all for keeping it mostly on topic) I see options like... motorola m25 motorola m500 Sandisk's Sansa Fuze But I'm no longer seeing any m25s for sale and the Sansa Fuze costs about the same as a refurbed iPod Nano. I'm also thinking about an iTouch. No FM, but it does internet radio. Any more ideas? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Make Disk Image In Mac OS 10 Use It In Win XP; How Can I?
I too am confused by the question. Presumably the included DVDs are plain UDF data disks, so it should be a simple matter to copy the files over. Why are you trying to make a disk image? And no, by default, WinXP won't know what to do with an .iso disk image. Unlike Mac, which must include everything, when MS tries to do this for Windows they get sued, so things like this must be downloaded. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Alvin Auerbach alvin.auerb...@verizon.net wrote: There is a data DVD that came with the netbook, that I'd like to put into the netbook. I tried using both Mac OS 10.5.6 Disk Utility and Toast 7 to make a disk image compatible with Wind XP, but nothing I've done seems to work. Can someone please tell me how to do this? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Make Disk Image In Mac OS 10 Use It In Win XP; How Can I?
Is it not possible to simply copy the files from the CD on the mac to the thumb drive? I know some installers won't work this way and NEED to be on the cd to work, but it may work this way also. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Alvin Auerbach alvin.auerb...@verizon.netwrote: I purchased a MSI Wind U100-432US netbook, mainly for use as a jukebox using iTunes. [It works great!] I've never had a Windows machine before, having used Macs since they were a Lisa. There is a data DVD that came with the netbook, that I'd like to put into the netbook. I tried using both Mac OS 10.5.6 Disk Utility and Toast 7 to make a disk image compatible with Wind XP, but nothing I've done seems to work. Can someone please tell me how to do this? The Help file in XP has nothing about disk images. Does this mean that unlike the Mac, in which the OS makes, mounts, and reads disk images; that XP has no native support for disk images, and external software must be obtained? Could it be that the disk images that I made were okay but XP didn't know what to do with them? BTW, I've been transferring files from the Mac to the netbook using a Transcend 16 GB SDHC card [14.96 GB formatted]. It came with a reader, which I use with the Mac, and the netbook has a built in reader. Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Make Disk Image In Mac OS 10 Use It In Win XP; How Can I?
At 9:03 AM -0700 3/8/09, mike wrote: Is it not possible to simply copy the files from the CD on the mac to the thumb drive? I know some installers won't work this way and NEED to be on the cd to work, but it may work this way also. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Alvin Auerbach alvin.auerb...@verizon.netwrote: I purchased a MSI Wind U100-432US netbook, mainly for use as a jukebox using iTunes. [It works great!] I've never had a Windows machine before, having used Macs since they were a Lisa. There is a data DVD that came with the netbook, that I'd like to put into the netbook. I tried using both Mac OS 10.5.6 Disk Utility and Toast 7 to make a disk image compatible with Wind XP, but nothing I've done seems to work. Can someone please tell me how to do this? winxpvirtualcdcontrolpanel_21.exe http://www.download3k.com/Install-Virtual-CD-ROM-Control-Panel.html I use this on my wife's HP 1000 netbook to mount an ISO image for one of her games. It has a facility to automount on bootup. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features - washingtonpost.com
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[CGUYS] Backward Compatibility?[Was: For want of a USB 2 printer cable!
Wish to note that there is nothing in the printer start up guide that says you need a USB 2 cable, and not sure why anyone would simply assume that this is known, given that a lot of people must be in the similar position of replacing printers or other devices that ran on 1.0 cables. I know that it is hard to deny something that your have personally experienced, but there is nothing in the standard that would make an old USB 1 cable not work with USB 2. USB is just two twisted pairs with a particular type of connector. USB 2 added some new (tiny) connector types to the standard and increased the length of the cable from 3 to 5 metres. Nothing that would make an old cable not work. Perhaps your old cable had a defect? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features - washingtonpost.com
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/06/AR2009030603057.html I do not understand why developers of software do not make the system requirements a prominent feature on their websites. The website where this browser can be downloaded from does not appear to specify anywhere what platform is supported by the product they are offering. I had to go to their download page to try to discover what computer(s) could use the GreenBrowser, and had I not seen a .EXE file extension, would have still had to guess. Unfortunately, this is not an unusual occurrence at sites that offer Windows software, as the assumption seems to be that everyone naturally uses Windows. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] For want of a USB 2 printer cable!
There are several different types of USB connectors, but no special cable is needed for USB2. Presumably the first cable you tried is just defective. Try it again now that you can hear the printer connect (Windows makes the USB dis/connect sound). On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: Wish to note that there is nothing in the printer start up guide that says you need a USB 2 cable, and not sure why anyone would simply assume that this is known, given that a lot of people must be in the similar position of replacing printers or other devices that ran on 1.0 cables. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Make Disk Image In Mac OS 10 Use It In Win XP; How Can I?
Thank you, everyone who responded. The netbook doesn't have an optical drive. I didn't want to take a chance on just copying files and leaving behind critical invisible files. I looked up Roger's suggestion of the free winxpvirtualcdcontrolpanel_21, which is unsupported, and that led me to daemon4303-lite which is a supported light, free version of a commercial program. I installed and ran it, and it turned out that the bin/cue file pair that I previously made using Toast 7, was recognized and mounted by the daemon4303-lite! Success! It also turned out that the disk was a collection of installers for stuff that was already installed by MSI, so it didn't help me. However, it was a great learning experience and I'm sure that I'll use the technique for other disks. Thanks again. Alvin On Mar 8, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: At 9:03 AM -0700 3/8/09, mike wrote: Is it not possible to simply copy the files from the CD on the mac to the thumb drive? I know some installers won't work this way and NEED to be on the cd to work, but it may work this way also. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Alvin Auerbach alvin.auerb...@verizon.netwrote: I purchased a MSI Wind U100-432US netbook, mainly for use as a jukebox using iTunes. [It works great!] I've never had a Windows machine before, having used Macs since they were a Lisa. There is a data DVD that came with the netbook, that I'd like to put into the netbook. I tried using both Mac OS 10.5.6 Disk Utility and Toast 7 to make a disk image compatible with Wind XP, but nothing I've done seems to work. Can someone please tell me how to do this? winxpvirtualcdcontrolpanel_21.exe http://www.download3k.com/Install-Virtual-CD-ROM-Control-Panel.html I use this on my wife's HP 1000 netbook to mount an ISO image for one of her games. It has a facility to automount on bootup. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features - washingtonpost.com
I'm not saying the assumption is correct, but it is understandable. World wide market share for os x is hovering around 3% so assuming a user who comes to your site is running windows is correct 97% of the time. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:58 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/06/AR2009030603057.html I do not understand why developers of software do not make the system requirements a prominent feature on their websites. The website where this browser can be downloaded from does not appear to specify anywhere what platform is supported by the product they are offering. I had to go to their download page to try to discover what computer(s) could use the GreenBrowser, and had I not seen a .EXE file extension, would have still had to guess. Unfortunately, this is not an unusual occurrence at sites that offer Windows software, as the assumption seems to be that everyone naturally uses Windows. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
I do not understand why developers of software do not make the system requirements a prominent feature on their websites. Well the first sentence of the write up says it is based on IE code and IE only runs on Windows. So that is prominent. No? I'm not saying the assumption is correct, but it is understandable. World wide market share for os x is hovering around 3% so assuming a user who comes to your site is running windows is correct 97% of the time. Now that the Mac's US market share is hovering just below 10%, Mike has become an internationalist and only quotes global shares. What he will do as Linux continues to eat MS's lunch on a global scale, I don't know. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I do not understand why developers of software do not make the system requirements a prominent feature on their websites. Well the first sentence of the write up says it is based on IE code and IE only runs on Windows. So that is prominent. No? Please take note of the fact that I was specifically referring to the websites of software developers, not to the article that you are mentioning. Also, the article was from PC World, thus most assuredly was speaking about Windows stuff. I figured the browser was for Windows, but there could have been versions for other platforms, is that not correct? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features - washingtonpost.com
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:56 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not saying the assumption is correct, but it is understandable. World wide market share for os x is hovering around 3% so assuming a user who comes to your site is running windows is correct 97% of the time. Perhaps so, but still... Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
I figured the browser was for Windows, but there could have been versions for other platforms, is that not correct? Well, no. If the browser is built on MS's IE code base it is going to be Windows only. Back whan MS was trying to grab market share they did have Mac and Linux versions if IE, but when they estimated they had a lock on the market they suddenly withdrew all but the Windows versions. I suppose they thought it would cause us all to run out and buy Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I figured the browser was for Windows, but there could have been versions for other platforms, is that not correct? Well, no. If the browser is built on MS's IE code base it is going to be Windows only. Well, fine. However, and back to my main point, I still think it would be helpful for developers to make it readily apparent on their sites what machines can use their products. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
the first sentence of the write up says it is based on IE code I've seen similar statements in a couple of write-ups, and something doesn't sound right. Since IE is proprietary, how could GreenBrowser could be based on it? My hunch is that what they actually mean is that GB uses the MSHTML rendering engine, which is the same one that IE uses. MSHTML isn't IE, it's just a Windows component that IE (and a lot of other software) uses to render HTML. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
Tom is so cute...each day he gets keithier. Keep forming your conclusions without looking at any facts.. If the browser was based in North America or even Western Europe, I'd not have mentioned the international aspect...but seeing how it is based in *China*, the international aspect is kind of built in. If there was no international aspect the website would still be in CHINESE. I realize your world only revolves around your little sandbox, but there is a world beyond that. I'd wager the market share in china for os x is under 1%, but you still want them to cater to you. Sorry you are disappointed. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Now that the Mac's US market share is hovering just below 10%, Mike has become an internationalist and only quotes global shares. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] IE pryed from windows 7 was: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
Apparently the last iteration of win 7 beta, IE can be uninstalled from the OS. This of course was the main point in the lawsuit, at the time MS said it was impossible to pull it out of the code base of windows. I recall Avie Tevanian was called as an expert witness who said very clearly it could be done. I tend to believe the apple guy at this point. That aside, it seems that windows has become more componentized in it's nature and only time will tell if this 'feature' of being able to uninstall IE from windows will stick to the final release. To note to those who uninstall it...make sure you download an alternative browser first :) This could be handy to corporations who don't want their users visiting websites while at work, or just want to cut down on the number of updates to their windows base of users. Hopefully it sticks. Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
Right, apparently Trident is the MS rendering engine that IE uses (had to look it up on wiki to find that out), I recall another very popular browser pre 2000 called neoplanet that was around for awhile and was fully skinable. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Chris Dunford ch...@covesoftware.comwrote: the first sentence of the write up says it is based on IE code I've seen similar statements in a couple of write-ups, and something doesn't sound right. Since IE is proprietary, how could GreenBrowser could be based on it? My hunch is that what they actually mean is that GB uses the MSHTML rendering engine, which is the same one that IE uses. MSHTML isn't IE, it's just a Windows component that IE (and a lot of other software) uses to render HTML. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Backward Compatibility?[Was: For want of a USB 2 printer cable!
I found some info on the Internet which seems to indicate that while a USB1 cable should work for USB2, there might be poorly made USB1 cables which won't. The original USB 1.1 cable standard is sufficient for USB 2.0 use if the cable maker adheres to the standard. The trouble is that cable makers found that they could cheat on the standard and it would still work with USB 1.1. These cheap cables fail with USB 2.0. While many cables have High Speed or Ver. 2.0 written on the insulation, there are many cables without such writing that do meet the standard and work fine. Actually, any cable that meets the USB-IF's specs for USB v1.1 is also USB 2.0-capable. The USB-IF never issued any updated specs specific to USB 2.0. The trouble is that there are a lot of cables out there that do not even meet USB 1.1 spec. Richard P. Wish to note that there is nothing in the printer start up guide that says you need a USB 2 cable, and not sure why anyone would simply assume that this is known, given that a lot of people must be in the similar position of replacing printers or other devices that ran on 1.0 cables. I know that it is hard to deny something that your have personally experienced, but there is nothing in the standard that would make an old USB 1 cable not work with USB 2. USB is just two twisted pairs with a particular type of connector. USB 2 added some new (tiny) connector types to the standard and increased the length of the cable from 3 to 5 metres. Nothing that would make an old cable not work. Perhaps your old cable had a defect? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
If the browser was based in North America or even Western Europe, I'd not have mentioned the international aspect...but seeing how it is based in *China*, It is a SourceForge project. As American as chop suey. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
Well, fine. However, and back to my main point, I still think it would be helpful for developers to make it readily apparent on their sites what machines can use their products. Developers often don't know and do everyone a disservice by listing the specs for their own computer. Then people with older computers get pissed when they discover that could have used the software all along. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Well, fine. However, and back to my main point, I still think it would be helpful for developers to make it readily apparent on their sites what machines can use their products. Developers often don't know and do everyone a disservice by listing the specs for their own computer. Then people with older computers get pissed when they discover that could have used the software all along. Perhaps so, but my point was in reference to the OS the software is designed to run under. For instance, Windows, Mac, Linux. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GreenBrowser Is Bursting With Browser Tab Features
I don't think you understand what sourceforge is, your statement implies every project on sourceforge is American. Ridiculous. Not only is greenbrowser's homepage registered in china, the author of the piece in the WP notes one of his annoyances is the fractured translation to the English web page from the Chinese. I'm not sure what your point is being argumentative about this obvious point that it makes sense that a chinese based product would not consider os x in any way. Not everyone that mentions Apple that isn't a MFB is bad...or good...it's just information. Hopefully there is some level of success Apple can reach that you can let go of feeling so persecuted. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: If the browser was based in North America or even Western Europe, I'd not have mentioned the international aspect...but seeing how it is based in *China*, It is a SourceForge project. As American as chop suey. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] For want of a USB 2 printer cable!
Just bought 3 USB cables this week at Monoprice.com. Very good quality, better than expected. Also bought Cat 6 cable and HDMI cables from them--all good. So are the prices. http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102cp_id=10303 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
