[CGUYS] Google Voice
Word is that Google Voice (formerly GrandCentral) will be launching within a couple of weeks. It looks very, very cool (and free for domestic use). The idea is you have one phone number, which you pick, that you give out to everyone (business AND personal). Using caller ID, it will ring any of your phones based on rules that you set up online. Even if you change your real numbers, the Google number stays the same (one number for all your phones, for life). It can transcribe voice mail, record conversations, route text messages to your cell, tell you who's calling before you decide to answer, and provide custom per-caller greetings. It can block individual callers' numbers, and it has a telephone spam filter that can identify and block telemarketers based on community input. It can send voicemail notifications via email, and you can listen to the voicemail from your computer. Pretty nifty stuff. http://tinyurl.com/bpwypk http://www.grandcentral.com/howitworks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Voice
Like so many other new things (Twitter, Facebook), I'm going to have to be convinced. I already have a single phone number. Can this thing automagically ring a cell phone if you're in the car, the home phone when at home, and the work phone when at work? Sounds like it would have been more useful 5 years ago. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Chris Dunford ch...@covesoftware.com wrote: Word is that Google Voice (formerly GrandCentral) will be launching within a couple of weeks. It looks very, very cool (and free for domestic use). The idea is you have one phone number, which you pick, that you give out to everyone (business AND personal). Using caller ID, it will ring any of your phones based on rules that you set up online. Even if you change your real numbers, the Google number stays the same (one number for all your phones, for life). It can transcribe voice mail, record conversations, route text messages to your cell, tell you who's calling before you decide to answer, and provide custom per-caller greetings. It can block individual callers' numbers, and it has a telephone spam filter that can identify and block telemarketers based on community input. It can send voicemail notifications via email, and you can listen to the voicemail from your computer. Pretty nifty stuff. http://tinyurl.com/bpwypk http://www.grandcentral.com/howitworks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Voice
Like so many other new things (Twitter, Facebook), I'm going to have to be convinced. I already have a single phone number. Can this thing automagically ring a cell phone if you're in the car, the home phone when at home, and the work phone when at work? The site doesn't have all the details yet, but it does appear that you can have it ring wherever you want. I assume that you would need to tell it where you are going to be, so I don't know if that qualifies as automagically. Or perhaps there is a schedule. I don't know. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo
Your attitude implies that it's OK to steal someone's work. It's not OK, nor is it legal. Has your work ever been stolen? Mine has, and it's a legal mess to try to get compensation. Just in case the original poster misses your note: I believe that his Why not? was referring to the photo being shot at an angle. I don't think he was talking about the copyright issue. OP [David Turk] asked about contacting the owner because he appears to be concerned about the copyright. My reply was to Tony. Copyleft allows use of photos and artwork within specific rules. It's not the same as simply using a photographer's photo of a public place because the subject is public, and implying that it doesn't matter who owns the photo or the owner's preference for distribution. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Copyrights and the Internet [was:Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo]
Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net escribió: It is even worse when your work is used against you. ...snip... Many of us were upset as this individual had broken copyright laws and considered it OK. My understanding is that if you publish anything you automatically have a copyright on it, unless you release it. But in these days of digital media it is a mess once that copyright has been breached. It's my understanding that the copyright laws for text/pictures/photos that are posted on the Internet may be different from other media [or less strenuously enforced]. Your members' posts may not be protected automatically unless specifically stated in the description and rules of your list. Is our list public or private? Who owns the list? Who hosts the list? What's their policy on privacy and copyright? Does the DMCA apply here? Or is that only for audio and video? Need translation of esoteric details of the Berne convention on copyright protection, and how it applies to the Internet, http://www.eff.org/. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Copyrights and the Internet [was:Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo]
I* will look those o0ver and it is indeed old news. Our list is a private list. All aspects of the list are classified as private. I am one of the owners listed with the list. We original were hosted by a company (I cant remember the name) but eventually got bought out and bought out so it is a Yahoo group. In the rules of the community, we do state that all correspondence are to be considered private and that they need permission of the poster to disseminate. It is unfortunate that in some circles this is not considered enough prohibition to stop someone from doing this. In Church circles they very often confuse religiosity with superiority to civil laws. Stewart At 11:14 AM 3/12/2009, you wrote: It's my understanding that the copyright laws for text/pictures/photos that are posted on the Internet may be different from other media [or less strenuously enforced]. Your members' posts may not be protected automatically unless specifically stated in the description and rules of your list. Is our list public or private? Who owns the list? Who hosts the list? What's their policy on privacy and copyright? Does the DMCA apply here? Or is that only for audio and video? Need translation of esoteric details of the Berne convention on copyright protection, and how it applies to the Internet, http://www.eff.org/. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Windows Mail ???? - switching folders issues
Mike You should be able to click the Tabs above ur email headers to toggle them...From-Subject-To-Date Make sure the first or last message is highlighted when before clicking. Terry Kilburg - Independent Reliv International Distributor! 563-872-3788 kilb...@iowatelecom.net * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silly but important question...
On IE, go to File-Import/Export and save externally so you don't lose them. Terry Kilburg - Independent Reliv International Distributor! 563-872-3788 kilb...@iowatelecom.net * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Forum management
A policy like that has to be difficult to enforce. Haven't you had anyone ask you to delete all their posts - thus leaving a swiss cheese of archived discussions? We maintain an exclusive right to publish, which means: Don't expect us to delete your stuff. That includes attached media. Not that we could dig it away from the search bots anyway. Attached media is still the property of the author, and they retain all rights to it. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Our list is a private list. All aspects of the list are classified as private. I am one of the owners listed with the list. In the rules of the community, we do state that all correspondence are to be considered private and that they need permission of the poster to disseminate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Ergonomic keyboard: what actually happened
Many thanks to everyone who posted with advice on where to get an ergonomic keyboard that I could use with a broken left arm. I bought a flexible keyboard from Microcenter for around $20. Unfortunately, it turned out that casts and splints are far more restrictive and painful than I had anticipated. I'm now in a removable splint and doing physical therapy, and I'll post a report when I finally get to use the spiffy new flexible keyboard. (For now, though, I'm still typing with one hand.) I had a lot of time to think, though. I thought about the roughly 50 million Americans who don't have any medical insurance--and if you've looked at the cost of insurance lately, you know pretty much why. Can't we, as a country, do better than this? FYI, a simple broken arm will cost you $10,000 to $20,000. How many people of modest means can take that big a sudden hit, especially in this economy? Fortunately, I did have some insurance--I'm one of the lucky ones. For now, that is I also thought about the frequently made assertion that people who are covered by insurance overuse medical care, choosing the most expensive treatments; and seeing doctors when Grandma's home remedies--and a day or two of bed-rest--would be just as good. If people were forced to look at the price tag of their medical care, and pay more of the actual cost, they would choose more economical options, and the rising costs of medical care could be controlled. Oh, really? When you break an arm, you don't have time to shop around. Your only choice is what emergency room you go to; after they patch you up, they refer you to an orthopedic practice for immediate follow-up (like, putting the actual cast on your arm, which needs to be done within hours of the initial break). You really don't have the leisure to do a lengthy survey of all the doctors in your area, comparing evaluations (when you can get them) and prices (which usually aren't available anyway). And the stakes are high; in my case, I really need two working hands for any job I could possibly get, with my qualifications. If something went wrong because I shopped around and chose cheaper but second-rate medical care, I could be stuck with a crippled hand and permanent unemployment. I'm just using my broken arm as an example. But there are many medical situations that are comparable; in fact, many are much, MUCH worse. It's something to think about --Constance Warner * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ergonomic keyboard: what actually happened
Constance: I did an early-on web site for Michele Katz, author of Healthcare for Less, and, like those you are wondering about, experienced the trauma of an accident with little or no health care. Her book might be of value: http://www.michellekatzmsn.com/books.html She's become an industry spokesperson for this topic. I think you'll find her information valuable. /gayley -- -- Gayley Knight Business Her Way twitter.com/mothergeek Broadside at BHW businessherway.net/blogging.html Join the Business Her Way group: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/72434/292E6A08147B On Mar 12, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Constance Warner wrote: Many thanks to everyone who posted with advice on where to get an ergonomic keyboard that I could use with a broken left arm. I bought a flexible keyboard from Microcenter for around $20. Unfortunately, it turned out that casts and splints are far more restrictive and painful than I had anticipated. I'm now in a removable splint and doing physical therapy, and I'll post a report when I finally get to use the spiffy new flexible keyboard. (For now, though, I'm still typing with one hand.) I had a lot of time to think, though. I thought about the roughly 50 million Americans who don't have any medical insurance--and if you've looked at the cost of insurance lately, you know pretty much why. Can't we, as a country, do better than this? FYI, a simple broken arm will cost you $10,000 to $20,000. How many people of modest means can take that big a sudden hit, especially in this economy? Fortunately, I did have some insurance--I'm one of the lucky ones. For now, that is I also thought about the frequently made assertion that people who are covered by insurance overuse medical care, choosing the most expensive treatments; and seeing doctors when Grandma's home remedies--and a day or two of bed-rest--would be just as good. If people were forced to look at the price tag of their medical care, and pay more of the actual cost, they would choose more economical options, and the rising costs of medical care could be controlled. Oh, really? When you break an arm, you don't have time to shop around. Your only choice is what emergency room you go to; after they patch you up, they refer you to an orthopedic practice for immediate follow-up (like, putting the actual cast on your arm, which needs to be done within hours of the initial break). You really don't have the leisure to do a lengthy survey of all the doctors in your area, comparing evaluations (when you can get them) and prices (which usually aren't available anyway). And the stakes are high; in my case, I really need two working hands for any job I could possibly get, with my qualifications. If something went wrong because I shopped around and chose cheaper but second-rate medical care, I could be stuck with a crippled hand and permanent unemployment. I'm just using my broken arm as an example. But there are many medical situations that are comparable; in fact, many are much, MUCH worse. It's something to think about --Constance Warner * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Voice
Quoting Chris Dunford ch...@covesoftware.com: to be convinced. I already have a single phone number. Can this thing automagically ring a cell phone if you're in the car, the home phone when at home, and the work phone when at work? have it ring wherever you want. I assume that you would need to tell it where you are going to be, so I don't know if that qualifies as automagically. Soon enough, Google will know where you are. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Voice
Soon enough, Google will know where you are. You're assuming that they don't already. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forum management
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: A policy like that has to be difficult to enforce. Haven't you had anyone ask you to delete all their posts - thus leaving a swiss cheese of archived discussions? We maintain an exclusive right to publish, which means: Don't expect us to delete your stuff. That includes attached media. Not that we could dig it away from the search bots anyway. Attached media is still the property of the author, and they retain all rights to it. Plus people can maintain their own archives with almost any mail client. Some one said they deleted a usenet message and wondered why it was still there. Best to assume that anything that is sent to a forum is on your permanent record. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo
I concur with Betty's passion. But doing what is right often isn't even perceived. My parents were musicians. Friends have offered ripped music gratis, I always refused, to their disbelief. Unfortunately, the internet has brought piracy that is not worth litigating. One of my photos was used in a sweater ad in the Czech Republic, with neither compensation nor attribution. Everyone knows Kafka, right? The Czech courts are very much in that stream. Another image was taken by a small French company to advertise sorbet. Again, unfruitful to go after them. Many are the reasons, but we live in an era of theft on a universal scale. 90% of the software in CZ on private and business computers is pirated. I remember this when throwing cinderblocks at Adobe, who now compete successfully with other onerous software providers. They often have a point. But that's small potatoes compared to commercial and government intrusion. Against that scale, my individual images are important only to me. My attitude in this is to continue creating ideas I assume will be harvested eventually - often swiftly - by the unimaginative unwashed. It's so easy. I applaud David for asking. --- On Thu, 3/12/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Relinquishing copyright on Wikipedia photo To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:54 AM Your attitude implies that it's OK to steal someone's work. It's not OK, nor is it legal. Has your work ever been stolen? Mine has, and it's a legal mess to try to get compensation. Just in case the original poster misses your note: I believe that his Why not? was referring to the photo being shot at an angle. I don't think he was talking about the copyright issue. OP [David Turk] asked about contacting the owner because he appears to be concerned about the copyright. My reply was to Tony. Copyleft allows use of photos and artwork within specific rules. It's not the same as simply using a photographer's photo of a public place because the subject is public, and implying that it doesn't matter who owns the photo or the owner's preference for distribution. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silly but important question...
latest version of Columbine Bookmarks Manager I found available is 3.3 which can still be had here: http://www.filewatcher.com/m/cbm33m.zip.683064.0.0.html ...it is easy to use and flexible and free...!! also, do as below with the Favorites folder... -Original Message- From: Chris Dunford [mailto:ch...@covesoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Silly but important question... I am changing computers. Finally will retire my old Compaq. I like to save the Favorites file to use it in the IE in the new computer. Where do I find the file to save it? How to install in the new IE? Many, many thanks Favorites isn't a file, it's a folder. Look for it under your user folder (same place as My Documents). Just transfer its contents to the Favorites folder on your new system. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silly but important question...
look for columbine bookmark manager which allows conversion of various formats of bookmarks (ie, opera, etc.) and will allow you to take m$ie bookmarks and save them in various ways... -Original Message- From: Edward Yarborough [mailto:edwardyarboro...@jhu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Silly but important question... If you are running XP the files are found under C:\ Documents and Settings\username\Favorites. Copy the folder to a USB thumb drive or whatever media suits your fancy. Next (no matter what Windows OS you are running) open IE and use keystrokes ALT F then I and follow the prompts to import the files from whatever media you saved it to. Ed -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Marcio Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:18 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Silly but important question... I am changing computers. Finally will retire my old Compaq. I like to save the Favorites file to use it in the IE in the new computer. Where do I find the file to save it? How to install in the new IE? Many, many thanks Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] those pesky browsers!
seems I was too hasty to report but green does NOT work with google video chat ...it won't connect nor will it pop out ...so I'm stuck with m$ie7 ...drat! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Voice
Quoting Chris Dunford ch...@covesoftware.com: Soon enough, Google will know where you are. You're assuming that they don't already. Actually, there is a story on Market Place tonight. Apparently (in answer to Tony's question), *all* your phones will ring at once. You should be able to read/hear it at www.marketplace.org. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can't print -- OS X Leopard
The G5 can't print to any of the printers. It also didn't recognize USB flash drives. I reinstalled the system, can see the flash drives, but still can't print. The printer utility for the local printers shows a print queue with completed documents, except they didn't print. Since it came from a bank there is a strong chance that the bank made an effort to disable USB using some hardware mechanism. I suggest checking out the hardware before looking at the software. Do some ports work and others not? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Voice
Word is that Google Voice (formerly GrandCentral) will be launching within a couple of weeks. It looks very, very cool (and free for domestic use). It will be interesting to watch Google terrorize complacent telecom providers. Do you think they will suddenly find they need to manage Google's traffic? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wolfram Alpha
Answers.com has been doing this for a couple of years. I don't know the details, but they often give context for the answer. Not any more. I asked Where is the Mars rover. It wanted to know if I wanted to buy one. It asked if I was interested in a Land Rover. And it displayed a reformatted story from Wikipedia about the Mars Rover. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can't print -- OS X Leopard
The G5 can't print to any of the printers. It also didn't recognize USB flash drives. I reinstalled the system, can see the flash drives, but still can't print. The printer utility for the local printers shows a print queue with completed documents, except they didn't print. Since it came from a bank there is a strong chance that the bank made an effort to disable USB using some hardware mechanism. I suggest checking out the hardware before looking at the software. Do some ports work and others not? The first thing I considered was the USB ports. The one in the front wasn't working. I couldn't find a USB driver in the System. I think the one for 10.5 is IOUSBfamily.kext, but I can't download it without subscription to Apple's developer site. Found a general open source link for USB drivers. I can get into the site using my general Apple login [same as for iTunes], but don't know what to do with the files yet. ReadMe says they need to be updated--well, so does the Mac. http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.6/IOUSBFamily-327.4.0/ The keyboard is plugged into the back and works OK. System Profiler sees the printers but can't print. I figured they disabled those ports for USB2, so I did an archive and install for 10.5 and 10.5.6. The front port now works with my flash drive, but it may be set up that way. The tech uses a 16 GB flash drive to boot from when he does troubleshooting. If I wipe the drive and reinstall the system that might work. I also have a USB2 PCI card to install. I hope the USB is disabled with software and not hardware. Maybe I'll just wipe the drive and start over to exorcise the bank's network settings. Annoying as it is, I'm glad the bank has good security--just not on my Mac. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Voice
Yes. What a great idea. Every time someone calls me, the phones at work will ring. Now the question becomes: If I answer at home, and someone answers at work, will we have a 3-way conversation? I wonder what it will be like at the office with everyone's private calls ringing the phones??? Actually, there is a story on Market Place tonight. Apparently (in answer to Tony's question), *all* your phones will ring at once. You should be able to read/hear it at www.marketplace.org. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can't print -- OS X Leopard
I would like to know how to find a bank giving away Mac's ... On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:17 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I'm glad the bank has good security--just not on my Mac. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can't print -- OS X Leopard
Maybe I'll just wipe the drive and start over to exorcise the bank's network settings. That would be a good thing to do. In your situation archive and install may be insufficient. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can't print -- OS X Leopard
You have to live in or near Delaware. Big and small companies use Macs in their art departments and science labs [I used a Mac when I did work on robotics for Hewlett Packard]. One place got new 24 iMacs a few months ago and got rid of their old Macs. Most are donated to nonprofits and schools. Some are sold as surplus. Tips are announced quietly over the grapevine. Shhh...Wanna hot deal on a monitor? I would like to know how to find a bank giving away Mac's ... On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:17 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I'm glad the bank has good security--just not on my Mac. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Voice
It will be interesting to watch Google terrorize complacent telecom providers. Do you think they will suddenly find they need to manage Google's traffic? Probably not, it really doesn't make sense to be the traffic management police when the bottom line is selling bandwidth. Who are these complacent telecom providers? And what is their agenda? Is there a connection with the Illuminati? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
