Re: [CGUYS] Google Chrome add-in for IE: Speed demon or big, fat security hole?
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: WFB is Tom's term for anyone who disagrees with him. It's his way to end the debate, anyone not agreeing with him is obviously a paid shill or WFB. WFB = Windows Fan Boy(s). Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Chrome add-in for IE: Speed demon or big, fat security hole?
Tom is again either misinformed or just carrying Apple's water once again. Google voice does not in any way 'reengineer' the iphone. Only if you think an app like rhapsody reengineers it or one of those photo swimsuit apps. Apple is just being it's over controlling self in the google voice rejection, and that's their right. I'll take my soon to be here HTC hero any day over the iPhone. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:46 AM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote: This is a variation on Google trying to take over and reengineer the iPhone with GoogleVoice, except this time it is going after M$. My first reaction is holy cow, are M$ programmers such jerks that Google can so easily speed up IE by ten fold. Then I wonder if our WFBs will so vigorously defend Google now that the shoe is on the other foot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Netbooks vs. Notebooks
The Touches are all microphone-capable. In the most recent generation, the larger capacity Touches come with Apple earphones that have the built-in microphone, but the entry-level 8GB Touch comes with regular earphones. For my previous generation Touch, I bought and use a microphone by Monster that has a jack that lets you use your choice of earphones. From:db db...@att.net Subject: Re: Netbooks vs. Notebooks the Touch's screen keyboard seems a big liability to me. I have big fingers and find the iPhone's keyboard laborious when I have used one. Does the Touch have a microphone? If so the voice to text apps that are popping up could suffice perhaps... db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] iPod Touch mic [was: Netbooks vs. Notebooks]
The Touches are all microphone-capable. In the most recent generation, the larger capacity Touches come with Apple earphones that have the built-in microphone, but the entry-level 8GB Touch comes with regular earphones. For my previous generation Touch, I bought and use a microphone by Monster that has a jack that lets you use your choice of earphones. Second generation iPod Touch is mic compatible. First gen Touch isn't. It doesn't have audio-in wired to the headphone port, but MacAlly iVoice III mic can plug into the dock connector port; firmware v.3.x disables it. Buy a 2nd gen Touch, not a left-over 1st gen. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Chrome add-in for IE: Speed demon or big, fat security hole?
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:46 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://blogs.computerworld.com/14797/google_chome_add_in_for_ie_speed_demon_or_big_fat_security_hole Google's just released Chrome add-in for Internet Explorer can speed up IE by as much as 10 times, tests show. But if you listen to Microsoft, it also leaves you more vulnerable to malware and Web-based attacks. Who should you believe? This is a variation on Google trying to take over and reengineer the iPhone with GoogleVoice, except this time it is going after M$. My first reaction is holy cow, are M$ programmers such jerks that Google can so easily speed up IE by ten fold. Then I wonder if our WFBs will so vigorously defend Google now that the shoe is on the other foot. Apparently google's programmers were frustrated by IE's lack of HTML 5 that they wrote the chrome plugin as a work around the backward nature of IE. This was to allow a new google beta release to work in IE. My guess is part of the speed up is them by passing IE's security filters. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Finding web stores overseas
Below is a Background section -- it explains only my motivation for my question, so skip it to the actual question following unless you like to read stuff. BACKGROUND = I am a devotee of the fountain pen since my second grade in public school. Write a lot, tried many brands models of all prices, settled on a moderately-priced pen made in France. Since I write so much, I keep 6 to 8 pens in rotation so that I don't have to fill ink from a bottle so often. Problem is, I lose pens fairly frequently (I believe in my house but maybe not), so I have to buy more. Recently I found that my favorite web store increased the price by 1/3. Turns out, the sole U.S. importer has demanded that all stores, including web store, can't offer the pen lower than its list price. I found an eBay store in France that offers both a Buy It Now price and an auction for that pen. The Buy It Now price with both shipping insurance is about half price of the U.S. stores. The auction price is a bit less. But before finding the eBay store, I searched on Google for stores in France, Germany, Italy. Of course, I used the advanced search to specify the domain but there were very few stores listed on Google. My eBay store (a large one) from which I bought my pen was not found on Google. Why does Google not list links to overseas stores? BTW, there are a lot of examples of many different kinds of merchandise that are artificially increased in price because of exclusive contracts for importation into the U.S. by a domestic company. So far as I know, buying from an overseas company via the web is not a violation of any exclusive contract by a U.S. company. END BACKGROUND Finding web stores sellers from other countries on Google search in the U.S. produces unsatisfactory results for me. Specifying the Google search domain from other countries has proved for me to produce a limited number of links. Question: Is there a good way of finding web stores internationally? From Google, or from other web searches? Is there a way to access a web search that is primarily directed to an overseas country? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Finding web stores overseas
I am not an expert, but I have seen articles. France is one of those countries that have started to limit sales of items within their country to recognized brands. (Or something similar) They have sued Ebay for allowing sellers to feature trademarked items from French Companies. Also what you are buying is called gray market items. Gray market means it is not illegal, but that it is in a gray area and the warranty (if there is one) is not necessarily valid. This might be an explanation or it could be totally off the wall. Take it with the big load of salt I offer it. Stewart At 07:12 PM 10/2/2009, you wrote: Below is a Background section -- it explains only my motivation for my question, so skip it to the actual question following unless you like to read stuff. BACKGROUND = I am a devotee of the fountain pen since my second grade in public school. Write a lot, tried many brands models of all prices, settled on a moderately-priced pen made in France. Since I write so much, I keep 6 to 8 pens in rotation so that I don't have to fill ink from a bottle so often. Problem is, I lose pens fairly frequently (I believe in my house but maybe not), so I have to buy more. Recently I found that my favorite web store increased the price by 1/3. Turns out, the sole U.S. importer has demanded that all stores, including web store, can't offer the pen lower than its list price. I found an eBay store in France that offers both a Buy It Now price and an auction for that pen. The Buy It Now price with both shipping insurance is about half price of the U.S. stores. The auction price is a bit less. But before finding the eBay store, I searched on Google for stores in France, Germany, Italy. Of course, I used the advanced search to specify the domain but there were very few stores listed on Google. My eBay store (a large one) from which I bought my pen was not found on Google. Why does Google not list links to overseas stores? BTW, there are a lot of examples of many different kinds of merchandise that are artificially increased in price because of exclusive contracts for importation into the U.S. by a domestic company. So far as I know, buying from an overseas company via the web is not a violation of any exclusive contract by a U.S. company. END BACKGROUND Finding web stores sellers from other countries on Google search in the U.S. produces unsatisfactory results for me. Specifying the Google search domain from other countries has proved for me to produce a limited number of links. Question: Is there a good way of finding web stores internationally? From Google, or from other web searches? Is there a way to access a web search that is primarily directed to an overseas country? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Chrome add-in for IE: Speed demon or big, fat security hole?
Ok, changing the subject about Google Chrome: I am webmaster of a site that offers download playing of music for those who want to hear it. I have tested the web site on all major browsers, but only Chrome fails to open the music for playing. I sent a complaint to Google about this when it first came out as a beta, but so far no change from them. The website is at http://riversidesax.info/ Go to Listen page to try it. Any suggestions? John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:46 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://blogs.computerworld.com/14797/google_chome_add_in_for_ie_speed_demon_or_big_fat_security_hole Google's just released Chrome add-in for Internet Explorer can speed up IE by as much as 10 times, tests show. But if you listen to Microsoft, it also leaves you more vulnerable to malware and Web-based attacks. Who should you believe? This is a variation on Google trying to take over and reengineer the iPhone with GoogleVoice, except this time it is going after M$. My first reaction is holy cow, are M$ programmers such jerks that Google can so easily speed up IE by ten fold. Then I wonder if our WFBs will so vigorously defend Google now that the shoe is on the other foot. Apparently google's programmers were frustrated by IE's lack of HTML 5 that they wrote the chrome plugin as a work around the backward nature of IE. This was to allow a new google beta release to work in IE. My guess is part of the speed up is them by passing IE's security filters. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Chrome add-in for IE: Speed demon or big, fat security hole?
Anyone with chrome on their system when encountering the problem will just open the link in firefox. I'd not worry about it playing in chrome much. Sent from my iPod On Oct 2, 2009, at 5:20 PM, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, changing the subject about Google Chrome: I am webmaster of a site that offers download playing of music for those who want to hear it. I have tested the web site on all major browsers, but only Chrome fails to open the music for playing. I sent a complaint to Google about this when it first came out as a beta, but so far no change from them. The website is at http://riversidesax.info/ Go to Listen page to try it. Any suggestions? John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:46 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://blogs.computerworld.com/14797/google_chome_add_in_for_ie_speed_demon_or_big_fat_security_hole Google's just released Chrome add-in for Internet Explorer can speed up IE by as much as 10 times, tests show. But if you listen to Microsoft, it also leaves you more vulnerable to malware and Web-based attacks. Who should you believe? This is a variation on Google trying to take over and reengineer the iPhone with GoogleVoice, except this time it is going after M$. My first reaction is holy cow, are M$ programmers such jerks that Google can so easily speed up IE by ten fold. Then I wonder if our WFBs will so vigorously defend Google now that the shoe is on the other foot. Apparently google's programmers were frustrated by IE's lack of HTML 5 that they wrote the chrome plugin as a work around the backward nature of IE. This was to allow a new google beta release to work in IE. My guess is part of the speed up is them by passing IE's security filters. *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Finding web stores overseas
Finding web stores sellers from other countries on Google search in the U.S. produces unsatisfactory results for me. Specifying the Google search domain from other countries has proved for me to produce a limited number of links. Question: Is there a good way of finding web stores internationally? From Google, or from other web searches? Is there a way to access a web search that is primarily directed to an overseas country? I shop at overseas stores from links as Yahoo Shopping since my email is in Europe anyway [Spain]. Yahoo France, http://m.fr.yahoo.com/, has links to Kelkoo where I found '1 116 offres chez 74 marchands' http://shopping.kelkoo.fr/ctl/do/search?siteSearchQuery=stylo+plumefromform=true eBay France has 4 pages of pens when I search stylo plume http://annonces.ebay.fr/. Not nearly as good as Kelkoo where pens range from 1,04€ to 2300€. Don't know which brand you like, though. Can you read/speak French? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Finding web stores overseas
Question: Is there a good way of finding web stores internationally? Not really. It has to do with tariffs and trade, generally. High ticket items (I don't know if that's your situation) always cost more if they're imports and don't have production cost/volume advantages versus the receiving market. US high end products cost more in foreign markets than they do here. Foreign high end products cost more here than they do there. Chinese stuff does well everywhere because all of it has been commoditized, subsidized, and deregulated to the point that they don't worry about issues of quality or reliabilty. They don't have to. There is no pride but there is volume. Who would ever have thought that we'd see a Communist government with a nakedly capitalistic economic system. :-) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Finding web stores overseas
Question: Is there a good way of finding web stores internationally? Not really. It has to do with tariffs and trade, generally. Foreign exchange and VAT make a difference too. The dollar is down against the Euro, after going up in the Spring. Makes a difference when the Euro was $1.30 and now it's pushing $1.50 [$1.46 today]. Depends on if the merchant bothers to remove the VAT, which can reduce the price by more than 10%, but the sliding dollar makes up for that. I just ordered some electronics items from Hong Kong--free shipping. That's a big change from when I bought my shortwave from HK and paid US$18 shipping and insurance. There's a Customs Declaration on the package, filled in with gift and the value of the items--less than half of what I paid, maybe even less if it's in Hong Kong dollars. I don't think they do that in Europe, at least, not in France. Is the cost of pens plus shipping less than buying them from a US vendor? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Finding web stores overseas
Which one did you order and from who? Stewart At 11:23 PM 10/2/2009, you wrote: Question: Is there a good way of finding web stores internationally? Not really. It has to do with tariffs and trade, generally. Foreign exchange and VAT make a difference too. The dollar is down against the Euro, after going up in the Spring. Makes a difference when the Euro was $1.30 and now it's pushing $1.50 [$1.46 today]. Depends on if the merchant bothers to remove the VAT, which can reduce the price by more than 10%, but the sliding dollar makes up for that. I just ordered some electronics items from Hong Kong--free shipping. That's a big change from when I bought my shortwave from HK and paid US$18 shipping and insurance. There's a Customs Declaration on the package, filled in with gift and the value of the items--less than half of what I paid, maybe even less if it's in Hong Kong dollars. I don't think they do that in Europe, at least, not in France. Is the cost of pens plus shipping less than buying them from a US vendor? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Finding web stores overseas
I don't think they do that in Europe, at least, not in France. I'm pretty familiar with what US audio equipment goes for in Japan and Australia. It's a 20-30% percent markup over US list, that it gets bought says something for the quality of the product. Of course it's all high end specialty stuff, expensive even here. Yeah, the exchange rate is a factor, Canadian dollars were at par with US dollars at one point recently, still pretty close. So this may not be the ideal point at which to buy a Bryston amplifier? No, you know you have to have it. Or a pen, forsooth. :-) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
