Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please...
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Continue to preach the word Betty some folks might even listen. The only good backups are ones where you know that they are and can get at them when needed. Any other type is asking for trouble. The point of the Cloud as a backup is to be your second or third backup. These are the backups for when the hurricane takes out the house, the office and Aunt Felicia's house where you kept an offsite hard drive. I wouldn't want to rely on a service to bring up a whole system but to recover your kids baby pictures after a disaster it's worth it. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Is Window's 7 Greatest Competitor Apathy?
http://daringfireball.net/2009/10/microsofts_competition_for_windows_7 What if the reason why most PCs are still running XP has nothing to do with whether Vista is “good” or “bad”, but rather is the result of indifference on the part of whoever owns these untold millions of XP machines, be they at home or in a corporate IT environment. I.e., that switching to Vista, regardless of Vista’s merits, seemed like too much work and too much new stuff to learn; that the nature of the PC as a universal commodity is such that most of them belong to people who value “old and familiar” more than “new and improved but therefore different”. If that’s the case, Windows 7 may not do any better than Vista. Perhaps Windows 7’s competition isn’t so much XP as it is apathy. Put another way, the idea that Windows 7’s quality will spur upgrades from XP is predicated on the fact that the people holding out on XP make their computing choices based on quality. But if that’s the case, why exactly are they still running Windows XP? Why are they still using Internet Explorer? I think it’s hard to overstate the fact that, with the explosion of the Internet as a universal communication medium, hundreds of millions of PCs have been purchased around the world by people who don’t care about computers or software at all. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please...
Hey young fella! Old people invented the cloud many years ago. Do you remember ARPANET? I do. I used it. I used punch cards for Fortran programs that I fed into a Burroughs mainframe that was the 3400 block of Market Street in Philly. My Mom retired in December at the age of 87 because she didn't want to learn yet another piece of software, and deal with the cloud that was often obscured. Clouds. mike wrote: I really wouldn't start telling these old folks about the cloud... On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote: At 05:25 PM 10/15/2009, Sue Cubic wrote: I want to know---what is the cloud? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: Apple's Iphone app Policy]
On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:55 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Many applications, both shareware and commercial, have demo versions that automatically disable after 14-28 days unless you purchase and register them. An iPhone app that costs $100 and doesn't work should at least have a demo version to try before paying. Adobe has demo versions. Even M$ has demo versions. Apple has free trial versions of their software too. Apple is so happy to meet your request... http://daringfireball.net/linked/2009/10/15/in-app-purchasing-for-demo-apps This is a major policy change. Prior to today, free apps were not allowed to use in-app purchasing. As of 10 minutes ago, developers can now make “lite” apps that are free which let you pay to upgrade to a full version from within the app itself. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please...
On Oct 15, 2009, at 8:30 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Cloud changes its name every few years. The new idea is not cloud. I have drawing templates from 30 years ago (pre-internet) for drawing clouds. The new idea is storing all your data in the cloud. Previously we lacked enough bandwidth to do such a thing and storage costs were too high. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] M$ Gives the Cloud a Black Eye
I can't help thinking that this whole Sidekick disaster was not just a M$ plot to hurt the competition when I read stories like this... Sidekick Disaster Shows Data's Not Safe in the 'Cloud' - ABC News http://abcnews.go.com/Business/sidekick-disaster-shows-datas-safe-cloud/Story?id=8840420page=2 As for the rest of us, this little debacle should serve as a warning. Every day we place more and more of our trust in computing Clouds – that is, we shift an ever-greater fraction of our personal information from stand-alone personal devices to unknown servers off in some distant data center. We assume that information is safe – from hackers, from data miners and bad guys, from the government, and from erasure. This is such horse shit. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 review
On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:44 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The Washington DC Fox outlet, WTTG, on their morning newscast today, had a review of Windows 7. Some Windows expert, I failed to get his name, was on-air offering his opinions of Windows 7. He was less than enthused about the product. Today in the Post, Rob continues to be less than enthused. Rob Pegoraro - Windows 7 Improves on Vista but is No Mac OSX http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/16/AR2009101600707.html He writes things like overpriced a step back clutter recipe for pain and concludes... In other words, if you were hoping to stop policing random software-versus-hardware squabbles, Windows 7 isn't the operating system for you. Nor does it bring an end to drawn-out program installations and uninstallations, the risk of virus and malware attacks, the need to submit the computer to validation checks, or compatibility problems between 32-bit software and 64-bit installations of Windows. Then again, for Vista users weary of that operating system's foibles, Win 7's selling points can stop at two words: not Vista. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Is Window's 7 Greatest Competitor Apathy?
The below is right on. A contributing factor is that many folks perhaps think that the improved security of the OS is simply locking down the user even more for the convenience of the IT department. Windows 2000 still does about everything I want to do. I do have a second hard drive running XP for times when I absolutely have to have it, but I can't recall the last time I booted from it. At 10:30 AM 10/16/2009, Tom Piwowar wrote: http://daringfireball.net/2009/10/microsofts_competition_for_windows_7 What if the reason why most PCs are still running XP has nothing to do with whether Vista is good or bad, but rather is the result of indifference on the part of whoever owns these untold millions of XP machines, be they at home or in a corporate IT environment. I.e., that switching to Vista, regardless of Vistas merits, seemed like too much work and too much new stuff to learn; that the nature of the PC as a universal commodity is such that most of them belong to people who value old and familiar more than new and improved but therefore different. If thats the case, Windows 7 may not do any better than Vista. Perhaps Windows 7s competition isnt so much XP as it is apathy. Put another way, the idea that Windows 7s quality will spur upgrades from XP is predicated on the fact that the people holding out on XP make their computing choices based on quality. But if thats the case, why exactly are they still running Windows XP? Why are they still using Internet Explorer? I think its hard to overstate the fact that, with the explosion of the Internet as a universal communication medium, hundreds of millions of PCs have been purchased around the world by people who dont care about computers or software at all. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please...
On Oct 16, 2009, at 12:57 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Old people invented the cloud many years ago. Do you remember ARPANET? I do. I used it. I used punch cards for Fortran programs that I fed into a Burroughs mainframe that was the 3400 block of Market Street in Philly. I don't recall a Burroughs. My decks fed into an IBM 360/30 at that location c. 1972. You? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please...
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Hey young fella! Old people invented the cloud many years ago. Do you remember ARPANET? I do. I used it. I used punch cards for Fortran programs that I fed into a Burroughs mainframe that was the 3400 block of Market Street in Philly. You mean good old Unicol. I spent quite a few nights fretting over a pile of punch cards that were my FORTRAN program to generate the first 6 prime fibbonacci numbers. It was cheaper to use Drexel's computer lab but I ran a few things at the mother ship -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please...
At 03:14 PM 10/16/2009 -0400, you wrote: I don't recall a Burroughs. My decks fed into an IBM 360/30 at that location c. 1972. You? _THAT'S_ a blast from the past! I remember my husband installing and supporting IBM 360's! In fact, I remember us having to move once to an IBM facility in Rochester, MN, for training for him to learn to do this! That had to have been in the mid '60's. Anyway, I've thoroughly enjoyed the responses to this thread. :) Am also heartened to know that my assumed definition of the cloud was correct. Maybe I'm not too old to catch a concept? Thanks to all. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Plain English, please...
Bandwith is still a huge issue for some of us..a friend a few miles away however will have 60mbit down available early next year. DSL which is still being fed to us from those idiot telcos still sits. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 15, 2009, at 8:30 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Cloud changes its name every few years. The new idea is not cloud. I have drawing templates from 30 years ago (pre-internet) for drawing clouds. The new idea is storing all your data in the cloud. Previously we lacked enough bandwidth to do such a thing and storage costs were too high. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
