Re: [CGUYS] nexus one, the 'google' phone
On Jan 2, 2010, at 8:34 PM, mike wrote: First hands on...seems like any other android phone. Apple haters are desperate to have an iPhone knock off to praise. Its been three years since Apple first introduced the iPhone. Frankly, I find it unbelievable that nobody has produced an effective knock off. Three years! That should be long enough for even M$ to give us a Zune copy. So far the Android is as close as anybody has come. I recently spent some time with a BlackBerry. I can't believe RIM is still in business. A good demonstration of how much IT fears Apple. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Here we go again....
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:10 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Ok that worked amazingly well. I now get a solid signal on both 5 and 9 with numbers in the high eighties. I had to put the pie pan on at a rakish angle and made a ring of tinfoil to hold up the pan. Good for you. Yes angles can be funny. A while back I knocked over my antenna and it was at about 45° pitch and yaw. Reception was much improved, but it really looked like I was a lazy housekeeper. The pie pan looks better. It did degrade the signal on a bunch of the MHZ stations but I don't speak Japanese or any of the other languages. I'm a news junkie and I find that MHz is my best source of news. US TV networks have mostly abandoned serious news for stories about kittens and handicapped children and cable is the land of screaming idiots. PBS has just cut back their news programming with more cuts to come. MHz has one great newscast after another. These are produced for a US audience so they cover as much or more US news as US networks, plus news of their countries, plus international news. I love it. I'm particularly impressed and surprised by Al Jazeera. Their English service is trying to out BBC the BBC. High quality and smart analysis with no propaganda. They also broadcast RT, which is a bit like Fox. Annoying disinformation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] sound machine advice
On Jan 2, 2010, at 10:53 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Where I live people hunt all year around. Laws? What laws? They do target practice in their back yards. They use each other for target practice--really. BTW, most of these neighbors are from WV, VA, KY, but now live in MD. I was out for a stroll in the woods one day and a scary looking character jumped out from behind a tree, holding his rifle, yelling, ya scarrd muh skwarrl--luckily all he was shooting that day was squirrels and possums--in July. And the NRA has the news media so scared that they rarely report of the realities of catering to the gun nuts. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Droid/Eris questions
I found droid and brethren to be too big and square ...I like to one hand the fone and I opted for a slightly smaller screen device with great features and, the deal maker for me, triband 3g so I can use it in the EU as well as the USA (quad band 2g) ...it's the Motosurf a3100 ...I am accustomed to WindowsCE/PocketPC as I have an IPAQ PDA for years, so no learning curve for WindowsMobile6.1 ...I don't know if they will come out with WindowsMobile6.5 upgrade for this device which is androidish but Motorola made a today screen overlay which is great with pages to the side via carousel etc. -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:35 PM Subject: Re: Droid/Eris questions Go into a store and use it a little bit, probably the best way to find out. I think verizon also had a deal, buy one eris get one free...and the eris is much cheaper. On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Andy Gallant a...@agallant.com wrote: Mike, thanks for the comments - much appreciated. In fact, because I did read a number of the many reviews, I wanted to ask and hear from the folks on this list, including how it feels to use the Droid keyboard, which many reviewers did not like. There's a lot of value here! -Andy On 1/2/2010 10:17 PM, mike wrote: /snip/ There are about four million reviews of the hardware on the droid, find a couple you trust (they are like movie reviewers) and read up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] nexus one, the 'google' phone
Not sure where you meet these people, I don't know any iPhone haters, just ATT haters. Steve Ballmer laughed at the iphone before it came out, you'd think after about say...3 weeks on the market he was crapping his pants and diverting half of MS to coming up with a better WM handset...apparently not so. Android has only been out a little over a year and they are pretty strong, the widespread update to 2.0 and more handsets coming won't hurt anything either. After using both phones, I've seen only a slight advantage of the iPhone overall, but solid points on both sides to get either one. RIM has been doing this years, they are (for the most part) dependable and until recently the easiest best way to sync email which was it's most touted feature. As recent as 3.0 release iPhone didn't have full exchange support and those users with the BB need that kind of integration. There is also the fact that there are diehards who refuse to give up a hardware keyboard, some minds won't be changed on that front. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:19 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 2, 2010, at 8:34 PM, mike wrote: First hands on...seems like any other android phone. Apple haters are desperate to have an iPhone knock off to praise. Its been three years since Apple first introduced the iPhone. Frankly, I find it unbelievable that nobody has produced an effective knock off. Three years! That should be long enough for even M$ to give us a Zune copy. So far the Android is as close as anybody has come. I recently spent some time with a BlackBerry. I can't believe RIM is still in business. A good demonstration of how much IT fears Apple. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
But it works by the laptop microphone and speakers without any device plugged into the phone jack …take it from me, I took MagicJack to the EU and no phone and it worked fine just like that!! -Original Message- From: Marcio [mailto:m...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:49 AM Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoIP question I am not sure how this can be done. In the Magic Jack devise there is an outlet for the phone line. Marcio -Original Message- From: rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 2, 2010 5:30 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question If you plug in magic jack on computer, internal mic and spkr are all you need (I have IBM Thinkpad). Needs no fone. Dial on screen with mouse or via phonebook. -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoIP question The most modern phone you have that works on POTS is a corded handset. I suspect one could also use a cordless handset, if one were to plug the base station into the MagicJack. (just as the base station is plugged into the RJ-11 wall outlet the same way that a corded handset is plugged into a wall outlet.) You just couldn't use a cordless handset by itself, without the base station. What the information is telling you is that the MagicJack does _not_ include its own handset. Nor does it use a headset (like Skype does). Nor does it use a USB speakerphone (like is available for Skype). It uses a POTS telephone, connected by the customary cord with an RJ-11 plug on the end. Anything that electrically looks like a POTS telephone connected with an RJ-11 plug should work. Dunno if it would accept pulse dialing, haven't tried it. But so much calling requires DTMF signalling for navigating menus that pulse dialing has limited use today anyway. Corded handset and rotary [pulsed] dial are two completely different concepts. Fred Holmes At 06:39 PM 1/1/2010, Robert Carroll wrote: (1) Information about MagicJack is appreciated. It seems from the CU description that a corded handset is needed -- I might be able to find buried in a closet an old rotary-dial phone for MagicJack (if I decide to get same) since all my land-line phones are cordless. Can MagicJack understand pulse dialing? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] sound machine advice
Yeah those NRA types are all over the news...right On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:49 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 2, 2010, at 10:53 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Where I live people hunt all year around. Laws? What laws? They do target practice in their back yards. They use each other for target practice--really. BTW, most of these neighbors are from WV, VA, KY, but now live in MD. I was out for a stroll in the woods one day and a scary looking character jumped out from behind a tree, holding his rifle, yelling, ya scarrd muh skwarrl--luckily all he was shooting that day was squirrels and possums--in July. And the NRA has the news media so scared that they rarely report of the realities of catering to the gun nuts. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:32 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Ok I got as first up in googe http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=246912 and in bing I got Forget Bing, that's not the point. The point is that we need a common point of reference. When you click on the Google link you should end up at the same site as the rest of us do. If you end up at http://free-video-dictionary.com/ads/ then you are pwned. I think HijackThis is probably the best next step as it specializes in browser hijacking methods (and is free). This is powerful medicine. Use with care! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
The real usefulness of magicjack is you can register it at the area code in the USA you wish despite being somewhere else ...that way, anyone who calls you using the magic jack phone number from the us in that area code makes a usually free local call and you receive the call in Brazil or wherever you are without further fees at all. If you are in the USA and have family in Brazil who must call you, you can leave them your magic jack and they can call to your USA phone number (for instance, if you visit the USA and get a cheap cell phone at WalMart or 7-11 store with prepaid sim card) for no charge!! I am pretty sure they will not ship abroad. You need a credit card. You simply have it mailed to a friend in the USA who forwards it to you!! -Original Message- From: Marcio [mailto:m...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:46 AM To: rleesimon Subject: RE: MagicJack: a VoIP question Will look at it Marcio -Original Message- From: rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 2, 2010 5:40 PM To: 'Marcio' m...@ix.netcom.com Cc: 'Computer Guys Discussion List' COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: RE: MagicJack: a VoIP question Messages from phonepower.com come as .wav file in email...also stored online on pwd protected site with usage, etc. -Original Message- From: Marcio [mailto:m...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:44 PM Subject: Re: MagicJack: a VoIP question Yes, Fred I get the messages by e-mail and open them with Nero. I also cancall my number at MagicJack and listen to the messages and erase them. Marcio -Original Message- From: Fred Holmes f...@his.com Sent: Jan 1, 2010 8:59 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question Yes and no. If you leave your VOIP (e.g. MagicJack) always at one specific premises and register that premises with that telephone number at 911 (there is a process for doing this), then you will have reliable 911 service, just as landline numbers are registered with 911 (but the registration is done by the telephone company). But one of the advantages of MagicJack is that you can connect it to your notebook computer wherever you may carry and use it. There is no way (except manually) to change the 911 registration at present. There may be some way to do a lookup on the i.p. address of your computer, to determine where it is actually connected, but such a system hasn't yet (to my knowledge) been set up. If you connect your MagicJack to your notebook computer that is connected to the Internet anywhere (e.g., Iraq), calls that you place to the U.S. are free (no call placement or connection time charges) (unless for some reason VOIP packets are somehow killed.) It's also nice that voice mail messages received on VOIP systems can be sent to you by e-mail as .wav file attachments. Nice to be able to keep and file them, and not have the message memory fill up and overflow. Fred Holmes. At 06:13 PM 1/1/2010, Judy Cosler wrote: does one have reliable 911 with VoIP? thought one needed a landline for reliable, available 911. Pls. help me with this issue! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Droid/Eris questions
I'm waiting out CES to see if anything really cool gets announced. The Droid is a near miss- I want a better keyboard than than one. More like my LG ENV with raised buttons not a flat plane of keys. The droid keyboard is everything I dislike about the touch screen keyboards but mechanical. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:59 AM, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote: I found droid and brethren to be too big and square ...I like to one hand the fone and I opted for a slightly smaller screen device with great features and, the deal maker for me, triband 3g so I can use it in the EU as well as the USA (quad band 2g) ...it's the Motosurf a3100 ...I am accustomed to WindowsCE/PocketPC as I have an IPAQ PDA for years, so no learning curve for WindowsMobile6.1 ...I don't know if they will come out with WindowsMobile6.5 upgrade for this device which is androidish but Motorola made a today screen overlay which is great with pages to the side via carousel etc. -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:35 PM Subject: Re: Droid/Eris questions Go into a store and use it a little bit, probably the best way to find out. I think verizon also had a deal, buy one eris get one free...and the eris is much cheaper. On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Andy Gallant a...@agallant.com wrote: Mike, thanks for the comments - much appreciated. In fact, because I did read a number of the many reviews, I wanted to ask and hear from the folks on this list, including how it feels to use the Droid keyboard, which many reviewers did not like. There's a lot of value here! -Andy On 1/2/2010 10:17 PM, mike wrote: /snip/ There are about four million reviews of the hardware on the droid, find a couple you trust (they are like movie reviewers) and read up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Droid/Eris questions
Yes. But the rest of the hardware is pretty nice, the resolution especially. I wonder if Apple will announce in january a speed bump to their iphone line, it's getting dated. The snapdragon is going to start appearing in more and more phones across the board, offering nice video playback etc. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: I'm waiting out CES to see if anything really cool gets announced. The Droid is a near miss- I want a better keyboard than than one. More like my LG ENV with raised buttons not a flat plane of keys. The droid keyboard is everything I dislike about the touch screen keyboards but mechanical. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:59 AM, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote: I found droid and brethren to be too big and square ...I like to one hand the fone and I opted for a slightly smaller screen device with great features and, the deal maker for me, triband 3g so I can use it in the EU as well as the USA (quad band 2g) ...it's the Motosurf a3100 ...I am accustomed to WindowsCE/PocketPC as I have an IPAQ PDA for years, so no learning curve for WindowsMobile6.1 ...I don't know if they will come out with WindowsMobile6.5 upgrade for this device which is androidish but Motorola made a today screen overlay which is great with pages to the side via carousel etc. -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:35 PM Subject: Re: Droid/Eris questions Go into a store and use it a little bit, probably the best way to find out. I think verizon also had a deal, buy one eris get one free...and the eris is much cheaper. On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Andy Gallant a...@agallant.com wrote: Mike, thanks for the comments - much appreciated. In fact, because I did read a number of the many reviews, I wanted to ask and hear from the folks on this list, including how it feels to use the Droid keyboard, which many reviewers did not like. There's a lot of value here! -Andy On 1/2/2010 10:17 PM, mike wrote: /snip/ There are about four million reviews of the hardware on the droid, find a couple you trust (they are like movie reviewers) and read up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] nexus one, the 'google' phone
On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:00 AM, mike wrote: RIM has been doing this years, they are (for the most part) dependable and until recently the easiest best way to sync email which was it's most touted feature. As recent as 3.0 release iPhone didn't have full exchange support and those users with the BB need that kind of integration. There is also the fact that there are diehards who refuse to give up a hardware keyboard, some minds won't be changed on that front. That doesn't change the fact that the BB is a terrible device. The screen and keyboard are both small and cramped. The icons are badly designed. The scroll ball is painful to use. The user interface is often cryptic. My ancient Palm is much easier to use: better screen and better keyboard. The BB doesn't even have a touch screen. Yuck! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:30 AM, Constance Warner wrote: Hey, weren't YOU one of the people arguing FOR universal broadband access, as an essential qualification for participating in our modern economy? I still do. I'm just excluding gun owners. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Constance Warner wrote: I'm mainly concerned for people who can't live in Montgomery County, but who must live in places where service is much poorer, is nonexistent, or is beyond the financial means of most inhabitants. So if I decide I want to wire my outhouse for broadband, Eric should be compelled to haul a cable or go to jail? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 3, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: Guys, don't freak out. Local wired telephony is regulated at the state level. It's a utility. Regardless of what I WANT to do with the network, you all vote for the politicians that make the rules. Not exactly true. You could sell off that part of the business to an undercapitalized company that you know will fail terribly. Heck, you could even spin off a company of your own to sell it to. Or spin out your profitable bits to a new company. Or you could become the equivalent of a slum lord and starve that part of the network. You could blame it on terrorists. Ultimately there is no way to force you to do something that you don't want to do. And that is not necessarily a bad thing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
He'll go after the other basic freedoms later... On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:35 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:30 AM, Constance Warner wrote: Hey, weren't YOU one of the people arguing FOR universal broadband access, as an essential qualification for participating in our modern economy? I still do. I'm just excluding gun owners. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Droid/Eris questions
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. But the rest of the hardware is pretty nice, the resolution especially. I wonder if Apple will announce in january a speed bump to their iphone line, it's getting dated. The snapdragon is going to start appearing in more and more phones across the board, offering nice video playback etc. The key board is enough of a deal breaker for me that any other advantages the phone has are lost. Was considering the ERIS but I text message as my main method of communication on a phone but I want a real keyboard. I might need to go with a blackberry device or the next LG ENV until they get that right if my phone dies. Phones cycle quickly enough these days that it shouldn't be a long wait. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] sound machine advice
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah those NRA types are all over the news...right I do check the roof of their building for the snipers as I go by on I66. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
On 1/3/2010 1:32 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:01 PM, tjpat...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 2, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Christopher Range wrote: It sent me to this link: http://free-video-dictionary.com/ads/? You are pwned. Ok I got as first up in googe http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=246912 and in bing I got http://www.3ammagazine.com/litarchives/2002_jan/interview_scott_rice.htmlwhich isn't awfully consistent with google but a participant used panjandrum as signature on that discusion. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * John: 1. I have no idea what 'pwned' is, unless that is a major spelling error. 2. The website you included, comes up as a 404 error. 3. Your use of the word 'panjandrum', makes no sense. Christopher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Christopher Range wrote: 1. I have no idea what 'pwned' is, unless that is a major spelling error. You could try reading the Wikipedia entry. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Droid/Eris questions
I switched from a smartphone to an ENV2. My wife wants to upgrade to an ENV3 BB's do have a touch screen it is called the Storm 2. There are those sold on touch screens and there are those who are not. I am not sold on touch screens I want a physical keyboard. Stewart At 12:19 PM 1/3/2010, you wrote: The key board is enough of a deal breaker for me that any other advantages the phone has are lost. Was considering the ERIS but I text message as my main method of communication on a phone but I want a real keyboard. I might need to go with a blackberry device or the next LG ENV until they get that right if my phone dies. Phones cycle quickly enough these days that it shouldn't be a long wait. -- John Duncan Yoyo Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] nexus one, the 'google' phone
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:19 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: I recently spent some time with a BlackBerry. I can't believe RIM is still in business. A good demonstration of how much IT fears Apple. I think it is entirely IT departments that keep pushing BlackBerries. The touted Exchange integration is only part of it - the real factor (from what a few people in IT departments have told me) is that they can control BlackBerries far better than any other phone. All BBs, apparently, have a feature that lets the IT department shut down the phone in the event it is lost or stolen, while none of the others do. Its all about central control. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] nexus one, the 'google' phone
Unless the policy has changed ATT was not selling nor encouraging corporate customers to purchase IPhones. The IPhone was not meant to be a business phone. The BB was meant to be a business phone but it has made the crossover and a lot of regular folks have the, Now with the release of the IPhone 3G this might have changed, I don't know I am not into business phones. Stewart At 01:12 PM 1/3/2010, you wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:19 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: I recently spent some time with a BlackBerry. I can't believe RIM is still in business. A good demonstration of how much IT fears Apple. I think it is entirely IT departments that keep pushing BlackBerries. The touted Exchange integration is only part of it - the real factor (from what a few people in IT departments have told me) is that they can control BlackBerries far better than any other phone. All BBs, apparently, have a feature that lets the IT department shut down the phone in the event it is lost or stolen, while none of the others do. Its all about central control. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Droid/Eris questions
I believe many carriers allow a 30-day experience with a new subsidized device before you are fully committed to the 2-year contract. With ATT, I only needed to wait 18 months before going from a Q9h to my 3GS. It would have been 2 years if I had switched carriers. I've seen my 3GS perform noticeably faster than a friend's 3G. OS 4 is rumored to be soon and Apple seems to be on an annual summer cycle for new iPhone iterations. YMMV Subject: Re: Droid/Eris questions I'm waiting out CES to see if anything really cool gets announced. The Droid is a near miss- I want a better keyboard than than one. More like my LG ENV with raised buttons not a flat plane of keys. The droid keyboard is everything I dislike about the touch screen keyboards but mechanical. The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man expressing it. -- Oscar Wilde * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
So if I decide I want to wire my outhouse for broadband, Eric should be compelled to haul a cable or go to jail? If you've got the casheesh to cover my costs, and you're in my territory, I'll wire that joint like George Jetson. But I'm not going to do it at a loss. I'm not a charity, I'm a for profit business accountable to my stockholders. Who are happy with my dividend but not exactly pleased with the stock performance. I think there's a lot of stress here that is based on ideology and self-interest. Folks, I CAN put a chicken in every pot as far as broadband. I'm working on it. The problem is that my pockets, while deep, aren't deep enough to do it as fast as certain people would prefer. Take rate is an issue. If I wire fifty houses for FIOS and only ten subscibe, I'm losing money. The reality is that a lot of people don't actually give a rat's ass about broadband. Those that want it the most tend to live further away from my POPs, which drives up the cost of the buildout. We'll get to them, but this is all a capital investment balancing act. But we don't need no stinkin' government handouts. We'll do this on our own, unless the American people get fed up and vote for more bread and circuses. If that happens I'll deploy faster. But I will not compromise the quality of my build or the financial basis of my company under any circumstances. And you can take that to the bank. (Obviously not a feel-good message, and of course I don't speak for anyone other than myself, certainly not that telephone company that I allegedly work for,) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] nexus one, the 'google' phone
On Jan 3, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Allen Firstenberg wrote: All BBs, apparently, have a feature that lets the IT department shut down the phone in the event it is lost or stolen, while none of the others do. iPhone does. Also lets you locate the phone on a map, send messages to it, and erase its contents. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Droid/Eris questions
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I switched from a smartphone to an ENV2. My wife wants to upgrade to an ENV3 BB's do have a touch screen it is called the Storm 2. There are those sold on touch screens and there are those who are not. I am not sold on touch screens I want a physical keyboard. Stewart I've heard the Storm was a dog. The Blackberry people seem to be keyboard lovers. My only real problem with the ENV1 was that it likes to pocket dial. I had to put a dummy number at the top of my contacts to stop it from annoying the neighbors with an a name. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
You could blame it on terrorists. That's not fair. We lost people in the 9/11 attacks. Maybe you didn't know that. They were on their jobs. I'm not forgetting that, ever. We're somewhat of an extended family. What can I say about those we lost? Probably not enough. I have nightmares about little Asia Cottom on her first plane ride. Donna Bowen burned to death in the Pentagon. The guys in the WTC. But we won that day. Yes our people did do their jobs. Yes we got the network up and running after a major hit. I'm proud to say that everyone around me did their job, just as they were trained. And our training is the best in the world. Don't make any mistake. We don't forget this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
Time for you to run some malware scans. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-free-online-malware-and-virus-scanners/ . Install Spybot as suggested and do the Immunize thing. I think the ultimate cause of this was that you probably invited it onboard. i.e., it wasn't some virus payload. You need to be real careful when installing apps. I think you're running Win7 now? That's good, but add more protection by running a limited user account, and keep UAC set fairly high. PS pwn is pronounced pone rhymes with bone. Or pwned poned rhymes with and means owned. Like a few others (zomg!), presumably started from fast typing with the o and p keys being switched. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
Malwarebytes is another good one. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Time for you to run some malware scans. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-free-online-malware-and-virus-scanners/ . Install Spybot as suggested and do the Immunize thing. I think the ultimate cause of this was that you probably invited it onboard. i.e., it wasn't some virus payload. You need to be real careful when installing apps. I think you're running Win7 now? That's good, but add more protection by running a limited user account, and keep UAC set fairly high. PS pwn is pronounced pone rhymes with bone. Or pwned poned rhymes with and means owned. Like a few others (zomg!), presumably started from fast typing with the o and p keys being switched. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
Excellent choice. I have used their products numerous times (free ones) to fix some very buggy computers. Stewart At 08:09 PM 1/3/2010, you wrote: Malwarebytes is another good one. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Time for you to run some malware scans. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-free-online-malware-and-virus-scanners/ . Install Spybot as suggested and do the Immunize thing. I think the ultimate cause of this was that you probably invited it onboard. i.e., it wasn't some virus payload. You need to be real careful when installing apps. I think you're running Win7 now? That's good, but add more protection by running a limited user account, and keep UAC set fairly high. PS pwn is pronounced pone rhymes with bone. Or pwned poned rhymes with and means owned. Like a few others (zomg!), presumably started from fast typing with the o and p keys being switched. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
