Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
So I wouldn't throw away that old compass just yet. No, I wouldn't either. And I don't figure that most people have completely lost their minds as far as their best interests are concerned. Evidence to the contrary. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a new word?
At 7:15 PM -0500 1/5/10, Ellen Rains Harris wrote: wireline n: a slender, rodlike or threadlike piece of metal usually small in diameter, that is used for lowering special tools (such as logging sondes, perforating guns, and so forth) into the well. Also called slick line. Ellen H who once worked in the oil patch I should have mentioned that, in my Google search of define:wireline, I found many more definitions that pertained to the oil industry than I did definitions that were communication-oriented. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a new word?
At 8:13 PM -0500 1/5/10, Eric S. Sande wrote: It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. I've never in my life heard the word wireline before today, and really can't see the need when landline works so well. In general usage wireline is equivalent to landline or POTS. I think we can safely say that wireline is a term of art, which is defined as A word or phrase that has special meaning in a particular context. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a new word?
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: This actually makes a degree of sense. I never really thought of what to call FIOS. Obviously we can't call it wireless, even though it really has no wires. We can't call it a landline because it has no wires. And now we can't call it wireline because it has no wires. Wait. I'm still confused. I think it could be called a cable system. I believe the industry refers to fiber optic cable. I also think that wireline is an archaic, yet accurate term that describes a wire-based transmission system. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: Gee. Not unlike this very list, eh? We seem to spend freakish amounts of time talking all things cell phone. Agreed. Yet, no one wants to admit that they have a jones for their cell phone? To wit, yesterday I was stopped at a traffic light in beautiful, downtown Vienna VA. I was surrounded by other vehicles around 11:30 am as the lunch rush was just beginning. I noticed that every driver in my immediate vicinity was holding a cell phone. So, I started counting, just to take a little inventory of every driver that I could see. I could clearly see a total of eight drivers around my car, and seven of the eight were using their cell phone. Six of the seven were just holding their phone in front of their face, gazing at the screen, with a couple of them obviously scrolling around with their index finger. Only one driver was actually talking to to anyone. As the light changed, and traffic began to move, most of the screen gapers never put their phone away, but continued their slack jawed gaping as they meandered on down Maple Ave. Houston, I think we have a problem. Is it that computers are not evolving quite as much, and people don't need as much help? or are cell phones just the Wave of the Future? Well, other than essentially being a radio receiver/transmitter, cell phones ARE computers. They are called cell phones, yet quite likely are used less for making phone calls than for other purposes. I just read somewhere the other day that most cell phone users text more than they talk. These phones are evolving very rapidly. mostly as weapons of the phone wars. Heck, quite often on television, particularly in prime time, there is not a single advertising break that does not include at least one cell phone ad. And boy, those ads are mostly just tearing and clawing each other to pieces. It's almost bloody. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
mint.com's security tech and practices are here: http://www.mint.com/privacy/security-tech/ They keep the passwords encrypted. They are not encrypted as one-way hashes and they decrypt them to use at the bank sites. 24/7 security guards? Even if they have a guard dog, I don't want someone else storing my bank login credentials. So, this worries me. On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:21 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: We are considering moving to a new bank, one small reason to do this is because our bank doesn't support mint.com, there are other larger reasons for the move but don't involve the tech side of things. So...anyone have thoughts on mint.com specifically and or banks they use to interface with mint.com, AND any thoughts on banks with bad online interfaces? Any thoughts welcome. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: We have a bad habit, in this country, of writing off old technologies as soon as something a little more advanced has been adopted by a small percentage of the American public. A lot of the older technology is the only means of retrieving certain recorded material. If anyone, myself included, has been around long enough, they probably have some of this older material, such as records and tapes, that they like to use every now and then. If you want to digitize that older stuff, and I often do, you are going to need the original playback equipment. There is the old adage that if you throw it away today, damn if you're not going to need it tomorrow. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC numbers etc stolen by hackers at the bank level. I'm not sure I'd say Mint is the point of weakness. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Michael Fernando michael@gmail.comwrote: mint.com's security tech and practices are here: http://www.mint.com/privacy/security-tech/ They keep the passwords encrypted. They are not encrypted as one-way hashes and they decrypt them to use at the bank sites. 24/7 security guards? Even if they have a guard dog, I don't want someone else storing my bank login credentials. So, this worries me. On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:21 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: We are considering moving to a new bank, one small reason to do this is because our bank doesn't support mint.com, there are other larger reasons for the move but don't involve the tech side of things. So...anyone have thoughts on mint.com specifically and or banks they use to interface with mint.com, AND any thoughts on banks with bad online interfaces? Any thoughts welcome. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
And if yer lucky you end up on Discovery's 'Hoarders' show. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:14 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: There is the old adage that if you throw it away today, damn if you're not going to need it tomorrow. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC numbers etc stolen by hackers at the bank level. I'm not sure I'd say Mint is the point of weakness. Yeah, I always chuckle at those who won't buy anything online because they think the card info is unsecure, yet think nothing of handing their physical card to a minimum wage waiter, who disappears into the back * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:31 AM, Constance Warner wrote: In this case, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that fancy cellphones have replaced computers as all-purpose communications devices. Cellphones are too small to display most of what's on the Web. For a lot of people, cellphones are too small, period; they can't be read without eyestrain. They're VERY expensive--you pay a lot for the phones per se, the monthly payments, and the two-year contracts that are usually required. They can't be used with all carriers or in some parts of the country (see the cellphone maps if you doubt this). Our reality is often shaped by advertising and we don't realize that what most people do is not advertised (because it does not have to be). Most people use paygo, not the advertised contracts. Most people have simple cellphones. Many iPhones are obtained on a family plan that works out to have a very competitive. It takes some work to figure out, but a little digging almost always produces a better solution. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:40 AM, mike wrote: You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC numbers etc stolen by hackers at the bank level. I'm not sure I'd say Mint is the point of weakness. Yes and no. Yes, the waiter can do bad things with your credit card. Yet if you have ever left your credit card behind you will discover that they usually go to great lengths to protect your card and get it back to you promptly. If these were dishonest people they would be in a different line of work, perhaps stock brokers or TV evangelists. The credit card companies are very good at spotting fraud. I had one stolen and they spotted it within an hour. Yet when I shop in the same places they somehow know that the transaction is legitimate. You also get to review your credit card bill before it is paid and you can weed out any bogus charges. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
Yes and no. Yes, the waiter can do bad things with your credit card. Yet if you have ever left your credit card behind you will discover that they usually go to great lengths to protect your card and get it back to you promptly. If these were dishonest people they would be in a different line of work, perhaps stock brokers or TV evangelists. The credit card companies are very good at spotting fraud. I had one stolen and they spotted it within an hour. Yet when I shop in the same places they somehow know that the transaction is legitimate. You also get to review your credit card bill before it is paid and you can weed out any bogus charges. All this is true, BUT... There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is still a big problem--perhaps the buyers have mostly moved on to online hacking--but it certainly was a problem a few years ago. Anyway, the main point is that there are those who won't use cards online because it's unsafe but will happily hand their cards over to some guy they don't know, probably with multiple body piercings. That ain't safe either. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, you all convinced me. I'll have money next week. I would like your advice. I live in the US Virgin Islands (eat your hearts out ;) but getting things shipped down here is a major hassle. The USPS ships for the same costs as the continental US, but neither Apple nor Amazon will ship this computer here for me. I don't want to have to ship to my brother and have him reship it, that costs money and time. Anybody out there know of a supplier who will ship it directly to me? Only one I can immediately think of is Santa Clause...and for free. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, you all convinced me. I'll have money next week. I would like your advice. I live in the US Virgin Islands (eat your hearts out ;) but getting things shipped down here is a major hassle. The USPS ships for the same costs as the continental US, but neither Apple nor Amazon will ship this computer here for me. I don't want to have to ship to my brother and have him reship it, that costs money and time. Anybody out there know of a supplier who will ship it directly to me? Only one I can immediately think of is Santa Clause...and for free. Yeah, but he only delivers once a year! And that was last week!! V * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
I'm not talking about CC numbers. I'm worried about a third-party company storing my sensitive passwords in its servers. It's the principle of the thing ... if you are okay with it, go for it. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC numbers etc stolen by hackers at the bank level. I'm not sure I'd say Mint is the point of weakness. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:56 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Our reality is often shaped by advertising and we don't realize that what most people do is not advertised (because it does not have to be). Most people use paygo, not the advertised contracts. Most people have simple cellphones. That depends upon what simple means. Used to be that a phone that only placed and received calls was a simple phone. Nowadays, a phone that does the above, plus has a camera, can send and receive text and can even connect to the web can be considered too simple and worthy of being replaced. It also depends upon how much a phone users ego is involved in the equation. Cell phones are the bling of the monied set. Cell phones should be carried openly so that everyone can see what you've got. Indeed, one can even be shunned and/or ridiculed by others if they do not possess the right cell phone. Watch cell phone ads and you will see how social issues, envy and lust play into the phone ownership equation. It's as bad as it is with cars. It is stupid. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but he only delivers once a year! And that was last week!! I guess that's about all you can expect to get for free...and for trying to be so good all year! But yeah, it is a little late, or wy to early for that anyway. FedEx delivered my last computer from Apple. Does Apple only ship to the continental US? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
Quoting tjpa t...@tjpa.com: On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:40 AM, mike wrote: You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC numbers etc stolen by hackers at the bank level. I'm not sure I'd say Mint is the point of weakness. The credit card companies are very good at spotting fraud. I had one Yeah. . .not so much. My neighbor had his card taken by a relation. He only uses the thing once or twice a year (if that). Usually Sears, for a TV or refrigerator. She got a hold of his card and racked up $8000 in a month and a half. Using it as much as 7 times a day. You'd think there'd be flags going up all over the place. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but he only delivers once a year! And that was last week!! I guess that's about all you can expect to get for free...and for trying to be so good all year! But yeah, it is a little late, or wy to early for that anyway. FedEx delivered my last computer from Apple. Does Apple only ship to the continental US? This is my point. Apple and Amazon *only* ship computers to the continental US. I would not use FedEx or UPS...way too expensive...they charge for shipping to the Caribbean. The USPS charges as if it were the continental US...*much* cheaper. My question is, where can I find a vendor who will ship via USPS and isn't anal retentive about shipping outside the continental US. V * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Weren't there stories from NY and other metro areas of people getting mugged specifically because they had white earbuds and thus the most expensive mp3 player on the market? Yes. Bling envy. No great dollar value involved, just bling for braggarts. Would that those who mugged to get one got mugged for that device themselves a bit later on. A close friend got emails from three of her friends wherein they related Christmas gifts they had gotten this year. Two boasted of an iPod Touch, and one of an iPod. Nothing else mentioned. Just those items, as if you got one of those you had reached the pinnacle of gift reception. And these were full blown adults. Stupid. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: This is my point. Apple and Amazon *only* ship computers to the continental US. I would not use FedEx or UPS...way too expensive...they charge for shipping to the Caribbean. The USPS charges as if it were the continental US...*much* cheaper. My question is, where can I find a vendor who will ship via USPS and isn't anal retentive about shipping outside the continental US. Question is understood. Perhaps some independent vendors of Mac equipment, Other World Computing for example, may do so. I just do not know. Anyone down where you are have any good info about shipping from the United States? Apple shipped my computer by FedEx for free. That computer was a refurb, and I guess shipping was factored into the purchase price. If your brother could get it for free or otherwise from Apple, perhaps the USPS could handle it from there. A hassle, yes, but he is your brother, right? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro
Quoting phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: him reship it, that costs money and time. Anybody out there know of a supplier who will ship it directly to me? Only one I can immediately think of is Santa Clause...and for free. But, Santa's done for the year. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a new word?
You're right in general, but Eskimos having many words for snow is something of a myth. The Eskimo languages are polysynthetic, which means, more or less, that multiple words are combined into one as needed. Where we might say something like dry, drifting snow, they would combine the three words into one. So there are lots of those compound words--as many as you can think of, really. But there are only a few roots that specifically reference snow. The rest are all just descriptive modifications of snow; the only difference is that English uses multiple words to describe it, but they combine snow and its modifiers into one. That sounds very much like German. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a new word?
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Try calling it fiber optic communications. Lets keep things consistent- Glass Line. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:06 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: A close friend got emails from three of her friends wherein they related Christmas gifts they had gotten this year. Two boasted of an iPod Touch, and one of an iPod. Nothing else mentioned. Just those items, as if you got one of those you had reached the pinnacle of gift reception. And these were full blown adults. Stupid. What? You think that somebody who got a Zune is going to brag about it? You are so out of touch. It is rare when the very best can be bought for such a reasonable price. No surprise at all that it is a gift that makes someone happy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
At 01:41 PM 1/6/2010, you wrote: Date:Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:44:53 -0500 From:Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com Subject: Re: new bank and a mint There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is still a big problem--perhaps the buyers have mostly moved on to online hacking--but it certainly was a problem a few years ago. Anyway, the main point is that there are those who won't use cards online because it's unsafe but will happily hand their cards over to some guy they don't know, probably with multiple body piercings. That ain't safe either. At BofA, I have their visa card and they offer ShopSafe® is their free service for Online Banking customers that allows you to create a unique, temporary account number for online purchases. You specify the max amount and the expiration date for the shopsafe card and you print out a replica of the card with all the data necessary to on-line shop with the safety of knowing that it can only be used to the max you specify and one time and it expires.. Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is Is this not an urban legend? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
I do not know about the card reader, but we did have a problem here a few year ago with an ethnic restaurant getting card numbers of patrons and using them. People prosecuted, problem ended. Local police chief had it happen to him in Georgia. I would figure if you are at a place you know and trust not as much of a problem than if you are somewhere you are totally unfamiliar with. A number of the local eateries you check out at a front desk so you see and have control of card at all times. Stewart At 02:07 PM 1/6/2010, you wrote: On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is Is this not an urban legend? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Rich Schinnell richnrockvi...@gmail.comwrote: You specify the max amount and the expiration date for the shopsafe card and you print out a replica of the card with all the data necessary to on-line shop with the safety of knowing that it can only be used to the max you specify and one time and it expires.. Paypal has one off visa cards. Use it once and that number is done. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
At BofA, I have their visa card and they offer ShopSafeR is their free service for Online Banking customers that allows you to create a unique, temporary account number for online purchases. You specify the max amount and the expiration date for the shopsafe card and you print out a replica of the card with all the data necessary to on-line shop with the safety of knowing that it can only be used to the max you specify and one time and it expires.. Discover has something very similar. There's a little app that generates an account number for one-time online use only. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is Is this not an urban legend? Nope. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/washington/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
Is that for one single purchase or for one short period of time? If I want to make three on-line purchases (three different vendors) in an evening, do I have to get three different temporary VISA Card numbers? Has anyone ever been able to learn specifically how a compromised credit card number was compromised? I.e., the specific transaction or vendor from which the CC number was stolen. I would like to reward the vendor that lost my number by not ever doing business with him again, but the CC company won't provide that information, apparently because they want me to keep spending. Thanks, Fred Holmes At 02:28 PM 1/6/2010, Rich Schinnell wrote: At BofA, I have their visa card and they offer ShopSafe® is their free service for Online Banking customers that allows you to create a unique, temporary account number for online purchases. You specify the max amount and the expiration date for the shopsafe card and you print out a replica of the card with all the data necessary to on-line shop with the safety of knowing that it can only be used to the max you specify and one time and it expires.. Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
I would figure if you are at a place you know and trust not as much of a problem than if you are somewhere you are totally unfamiliar with. Apparently not. If you read the article I linked to in the reply to Tom, you'll see that some of the restaurants in question were very well-known DC eateries, including one that Hillary Clinton goes to. Another was Clyde's, where I have eaten many times. I suppose that if it's Peggy, the waitress at the diner where you've eaten breakfast every morning for the last 25 years, you're pretty safe. Other than that, not so much... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com wrote: This is my point. Apple and Amazon *only* ship computers to the continental US. I would not use FedEx or UPS...way too expensive...they charge for shipping to the Caribbean. The USPS charges as if it were the continental US...*much* cheaper. My question is, where can I find a vendor who will ship via USPS and isn't anal retentive about shipping outside the continental US. So, what you're saying is, living in the Virgin Islands(?) is not all it's cracked up to be, huh? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
Reasonable being the highest price on the market... On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:38 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:06 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: A close friend got emails from three of her friends wherein they related Christmas gifts they had gotten this year. Two boasted of an iPod Touch, and one of an iPod. Nothing else mentioned. Just those items, as if you got one of those you had reached the pinnacle of gift reception. And these were full blown adults. Stupid. What? You think that somebody who got a Zune is going to brag about it? You are so out of touch. It is rare when the very best can be bought for such a reasonable price. No surprise at all that it is a gift that makes someone happy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:38 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: What? You think that somebody who got a Zune is going to brag about it? You are so out of touch. Not out of touch, as you say. I understand that those folks who received the iPody devices are primarily thrilled because they now have what everybody else has. This is the lemming mentality. These gift recipients finally belong, no longer outcasts. I do not disparage the quality of those products, but I do not that is why these folks were so thrilled. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Not out of touch, as you say. I understand that those folks who received the iPody devices are primarily thrilled because they now have what everybody else has. This is the lemming mentality. These gift recipients finally belong, no longer outcasts. Not at all. You are looking at the world through the eyes of a Windows user. You get what everybody else has got, not because it is good, but because it is what everybody else has got. The logic for iPods and iPhones is very different. People do not buy those because they are the cheapest choice. People get them because they are the very best and happen to be very reasonably priced. While this produces a situation where almost everybody has one, the motivation is very different. Having an iPod or an iPhone brings true joy. Most people who get Windows justify it by telling you why they had to get it (instead of the Mac that they really wanted). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] mac gaming at it's best
http://ny-image0.etsy.com//il_fullxfull.111064332.jpg And they say macs ain't got game. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] mac gaming at it's best
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://ny-image0.etsy.com//il_fullxfull.111064332.jpg And they say macs ain't got game. Look it takes tough guys to battle an apple. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Not out of touch, as you say. I understand that those folks who received the iPody devices are primarily thrilled because they now have what everybody else has. This is the lemming mentality. These gift recipients finally belong, no longer outcasts. Not at all. You are looking at the world through the eyes of a Windows user. You get what everybody else has got, not because it is good, but because it is what everybody else has got. No, no, no! It wasn't ME who got an iPody device. The folks who were breathlessly extolling the fact that THEY had gotten one ARE Windows users. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:26 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: No, no, no! It wasn't ME who got an iPody device. The folks who were breathlessly extolling the fact that THEY had gotten one ARE Windows users. And good for them. I'm observing quite a change in attitude among Windows drones after they get an iPod or iPhone. They notice that the world did not come to an end. Many of them then go out and make their next computer a Mac. But I was writing about you. What you wrote was a clear example of Windows thinking. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain
Could Your Cell Phone Help Shield You From Alzheimer's? - BusinessWeek http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/634709.html exposure to electromagnetic field prevented and even reversed brain impairment * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is Is this not an urban legend? http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/washington/ Well that nails it. Thanks. Regular credit cards aren't the only assets that are being cloned. There are RFID readers that can intercept your car's remote control code, and blink card data, from a distance of 30-50 feet. Make Magazine had plans for making one of your own a while ago [search Makezine.com]. Record at DEFCON 05 was distance of 69 feet. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
