Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
Try some facts? Got any? On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:15 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2010, at 6:53 PM, mike wrote: Name someone in the US that is using them. Anyone? I'll give you a hint, it's the maker of a GPS tracker for kids. That's it. I never said anything regarding the length of time this has been out...12 years and it's still not standard. You are changing the point of what I said just enough to again try and be 'right'. Dab gummet and it ain't got one of 'em UFO thingies too. Can't be any good. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing
Only slightly. With the introduction of micro brews it hastened competition. Liquor is still only available at state run liquor stores, but the alcohol content in brews have increase, except for the young crowd who still think drinking a Bud is a cool thing. Thankfully I've grown passed believing water diluted urine that tastes somewhat like beer is actually beer. The reservations have switched from alcohol to gambling. To bring this back on subject somewhat, thankfully they haven't created apps that are those realtime gabling slot machines. People would be driving all over the road with those damn things. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Rich Schinnell wrote: Jeff, when I was growing up in Washington State, Indians could only buy 3.2 beer, no hard liquor and all liquor was available in a state liquor store and you had to have a liquor card to buy. Also, it was against the law to pick up a beer/drink from the bar and walk to your table with it. A waiter/waitress had to do that. And it looks like they have not progressed much. Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it
Yes, Gates and his backers make the biggest philanthropy ever. Reminds me of the big capitalists like Andrew Carnegie and Mellon. They too gave away much of their questionable gains to great causes. A cleansing experience, I guess. Doesn't justify how they got that money. And Gates goes from Knife the baby to savior... Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:34 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. No, really...WOW. He could be saving 8 million children and the mac fan bois are crying about a computer virus. I think that Gates, and I believe he is the biggest philanthropist in the United States, just met with Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi (sp?) over in Italy and wound up getting some mention in the Italian press by essentially scolding Italy for having the smallest portion of its GNP going to help the poor in foreign countries. Gates is apparently on a world tour to promote and encourage relatively rich nations to come to the aid of others in the world who are in trouble and need help. So, if he is a thief, and to an extent ripping off those wealthy enough to be able afford computers, maybe in a way he is modern day Robin Hood? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] SNL iPad
On Jan 31, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: And in technology news, Apple this week released new stuff that does the same stuff as their old stuff. In other news. ... That came from a recent Snapple commercial. Alas, not very original. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] SNL iPad
The Who had a similar line a few decades ago. New boss same as the old boss. Stewart At 11:14 AM 2/1/2010, you wrote: On Jan 31, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: And in technology news, Apple this week released new stuff that does the same stuff as their old stuff. In other news. ... That came from a recent Snapple commercial. Alas, not very original. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
For some, change=improvement. Get a life. I am grateful, but alarmed at your reporting, Betty. next-generation for new generation sims looks like sales device, period paragraph. What benefit to consumers? The simplicity of swapping sim cards has been a huge boon to my professional activities elsewhere; I do not welcome the need to carry tweezers and magnifier, only to accomplish ordinary transit from country to country. My needs possibly are unusual, this does appear analogous to being told that my shoe size has been improved. --- On Mon, 2/1/10, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? [was: You Saw the Demo?...] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 12:48 AM nonstandard SIM slot It is not non-standard. In is the next generation SIM. Once again, some prefer to be clinging to the past. This SIM card is too small for those of us who switch cards frequently. The micro SIM is about 30% smaller [about the size you need to cut a regular SIM card to fit two SIMs for two networks in one phone], and is too easy to lose when switching networks. Unless there is a way to add new networks without removing the card, the micro SIM will be easily lost. Since T-Mobile is one of the first to use the cards, there probably will be a remedy for that in their new European phones and devices. However because the new specs add multitasking and authentication, it could be an interesting way to prevent fraud [but that will be circumvented quickly]. There's no good reason for the new SIM to be a different size than the old SIM since the active part is the same size as the current SIM card. However there may be two not so good reasons. First, size makes it so that the two cards are distinguishable from each other [not important, since new card is backward compatible]. More important, the newer SIM won't fit [you can slide it in, but you can't get it out!] in a lot of current phones that work fine now but may have to be replaced sooner than expected if ATT and T-Mobile decide to switch quickly to the new cards. Questionable for most consumers--good for the corporate bottom line. Who has a budget for this? I can wait until next year, at least, and let the bleeding edgers get hosed before the price drops. I think I'll go read a real book now. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Feb 1, 2010, at 1:15 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: For some, change=improvement. Get a life. I am grateful, but alarmed at your reporting, Betty. next-generation for new generation sims looks like sales device, period paragraph. What benefit to consumers? The simplicity of swapping sim cards has been a huge boon to my professional activities elsewhere; I do not welcome the need to carry tweezers and magnifier, only to accomplish ordinary transit from country to country. My needs possibly are unusual, this does appear analogous to being told that my shoe size has been improved. Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic gets smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this process key internal parts get smaller too? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Apple is going to shrink the ipad next year to subatomic..MAC fan bois will still love it though they can't see it or use it. On Feb 1, 2010 2:12 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2010, at 1:15 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: For some, change=improvement. Get a life. ... Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic gets smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this process key internal parts get smaller too? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic gets
smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this process key
internal parts get smaller too?
So... Tom... you're saying the iPad is unnatural since its a larger
iTouch? {:
While key internal parts may get smaller, having
frequently-user-accessible parts be a user-usable size is important.
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Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Allen Firstenberg wrote: While key internal parts may get smaller, having frequently-user-accessible parts be a user-usable size is important. You must have very large gorilla hands. The new SIM is half the size of an old SIM. I can't believe you are whining over this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
By contrast Tom's hands are those of a delicate child of four. On Feb 1, 2010 4:58 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Allen Firstenberg wrote: While key internal parts may get smaller,... You must have very large gorilla hands. The new SIM is half the size of an old SIM. I can't believe you are whining over this. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM
Deconstructing: smaller, key parts, every year. Fine. And good for those who crave koolaid. Now, let others of us get on with our purposes in life. Selling the next smaller key parts every year is kinda dull. Is that all there is? I haven't time or cash to devote to the bottom line of those who bring hollow enforced improvement in order to ask for new investment on their behalf. Perhaps you do. Good luck with that, and make that four wheel drive. 98% of the world's people haven't time for such profligacy. Or better yet: ask a GI to change the new, improved 30% smaller sim card in an Iraqi sand storm. Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic gets smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this process key internal parts get smaller too? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Feb 1, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Hopefully not everything gets smaller over time. Read you spam for a solution. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
You are funny little man, Tom. Almost daily you make me chuckle. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:22 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2010, at 7:03 PM, mike wrote: By contrast Tom's hands are those of a delicate child of four. You have become our own Party of No. You disagree with anything and everything just to be disagreeable. What's next? You'll insist that the SIM is a color you dislike? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic gets smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this process key internal parts get smaller too? I have noticed this in the past with some items, but today we are seeing somewhat of a reversal. A lot of the cell phones are getting bigger, and some even say the the iPad, the latest major computing product release, is essentially a larger Ipod Touch. Computer monitors are also getting bigger as Apple is showing us. TVs are getting humongous. So, not everything electronic is getting smaller with every passing year. Only some things. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic gets smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this process key internal parts get smaller too? Back to SNL-- Remember their skit about the shrinking Nano? That was a joke when the Nano 'improved' and became microscopic. The shrinking SIM is a bad joke too. And there's NO reason to make the new technology smaller than the old one, especially since the US device is exactly 7.24187928741 times larger than my smart phone. Logically, according to Tom, the SIM should also be 7.24187928741 times larger in the iPad compared to my phone. When I worked at a newspaper designing and typesetting ads, there was a rule that you don't use any text smaller than 5 point type. Anything smaller than that was considered illegible, and only suitable for disclaimers on car ads. g Now the rules are that there are no rules. Medicine has important warnings in 3 point type--for old people, yet. Legal documents got so bad that there had to be legislation to make it legible and in plain English. Smaller isn't necessarily better, otherwise the iPad wouldn't be larger that many netbooks and tablets. So what's with this nonsense of defending SIM cards that are too small to insert or remove without dropping them like a contact lens that you can't find in a pile rug. My brother rides a unicycle, but uses his bicycle most of the time because smaller isn't necessarily better. Do you drive a microcar like a Ligier or Aixam? Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? [was: You Saw the Demo?...]
Just to put it in concrete terms, the micro SIM is actually slightly larger than a microSD card, and I can certainly see why my phone uses that for storage rather than a SD card. It probably has to be swapped as often as a SIM, so it is equally deserving of complaints due to its size, yet I haven't come across any. As to the reason for the different size, it is still important for the cards to be distinguishable from each other. True, micro SIMs work in mini SIM slots, so size doesn't make a difference there, but you wouldn't want a mini SIM to go into a slot that requires a micro SIM. As to micro SIMs being hard to insert/remove from some mini SIM phones, my micro SD card came with an SD card adapter, and it's likely that someone will make something similar for micro SIMs if there is a demand for it. Dual SIM adapters might already be compatible with micro SIMS for that matter. On Feb 1, 2010, at 7:03 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From:b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: New SIM, but improved? [was: You Saw the Demo?...] nonstandard SIM slot It is not non-standard. In is the next generation SIM. Once again, some prefer to be clinging to the past. This SIM card is too small for those of us who switch cards frequently. The micro SIM is about 30% smaller [about the size you need to cut a regular SIM card to fit two SIMs for two networks in one phone], and is too easy to lose when switching networks. Unless there is a way to add new networks without removing the card, the micro SIM will be easily lost. Since T-Mobile is one of the first to use the cards, there probably will be a remedy for that in their new European phones and devices. However because the new specs add multitasking and authentication, it could be an interesting way to prevent fraud [but that will be circumvented quickly]. There's no good reason for the new SIM to be a different size than the old SIM since the active part is the same size as the current SIM card. However there may be two not so good reasons. First, size makes it so that the two cards are distinguishable from each other [not important, since new card is backward compatible]. More important, the newer SIM won't fit [you can slide it in, but you can't get it out!] in a lot of current phones that work fine now but may have to be replaced sooner than expected if ATT and T-Mobile decide to switch quickly to the new cards. Questionable for most consumers--good for the corporate bottom line. Who has a budget for this? I can wait until next year, at least, and let the bleeding edgers get hosed before the price drops. I think I'll go read a real book now. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple monitor issues
On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:42 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Apple internally acknowledges more 27 iMac screen issues Apple has the firmware update for you. On Monday, the company released 27-inch iMac Display Firmware Update 1.0, which promises to “address issues that may cause intermittent display flickering” for iMacs released in late 2009. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple monitor issues
It will address one of the known issues...at least that's the plan. The first update they put out didn't go so well so this is the second one. Apple halted production on the 27 line until all the issues are resolved. These are beautiful machines, so hopefully this will fix them. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:15 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:42 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Apple internally acknowledges more 27 iMac screen issues Apple has the firmware update for you. On Monday, the company released 27-inch iMac Display Firmware Update 1.0, which promises to “address issues that may cause intermittent display flickering” for iMacs released in late 2009. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
