[CGUYS] Time for a Nation Defense Internet Infrastructure Project?

2010-02-25 Thread tjpa
U.S. would lose a cyber war, former intell chief warns -- Government  
Computer News

http://gcn.com/articles/2010/02/24/web-mcconnell-cyber-threat.aspx?s=gcndaily_250210

“We’re not going to do what we need to do; we’re going to have a  
catastrophic event [and] the government’s role is going to change  
dramatically, and then we’re going to go to a new infrastructure,”  
McConnell, a retired Navy vice admiral, predicted.



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Re: [CGUYS] Time for a Nation Defense Internet Infrastructure Project?

2010-02-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:06 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 U.S. would lose a cyber war, former intell chief warns -- Government
 Computer News
 http://gcn.com/articles/2010/02/24/web-mcconnell-cyber-threat.aspx?s=gcndaily_250210

 “We’re not going to do what we need to do; we’re going to have a
 catastrophic event [and] the government’s role is going to change
 dramatically, and then we’re going to go to a new infrastructure,”
 McConnell, a retired Navy vice admiral, predicted.

  Sounds lIke a case could be made not to implement any expansion of
internet access, and even to curtail, limit or eliminate a lot of what
already exists.  I'd have to think that were any evidence to come to
light that a cyber attack was occurring, that internet access would be
shut down for all but necessary systems.

  Steve


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[CGUYS] Big Wireless Performance Gain By ATT

2010-02-25 Thread tjpa

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9162078/AT_T_roars_back_in_3G_wireless_performance_test

After generating disappointing results in tests last spring, ATT's  
3G network is now the top performer in 13-city tests, with download  
speeds 67 percent faster than its competitors





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[CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Ranbo
*Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy.  Keeps popping up with
messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run
programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is
affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an
alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my
files.  Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is
their demonstration.  At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy
this program to disinfect the computer.  I don't recall ever having
installed this software and can't even find it listed.  Can't even go to add
or remove hardware.  When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that
it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other
similar stuff.

I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this.  I'm running Windows XP.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I can connect to the internet and use
email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my
computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE,
while I am only using FireFox).  I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus
program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe
part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software
to disinfect it!

Help!  And thanks

Randall
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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Tony B
You haven't given us much to go on. Like a name or something. If you can run
them, try an online virus scan.
http://www.google.com/search?q=free+online+virus+scan . Once you have a name
you should be able to google removal techniques.

And no, whatever you do, don't install anything else from this company!


On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy.  Keeps popping up with
 messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to
 run
 programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is
 affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an
 alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my
 files.  Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is
 their demonstration.  At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy
 this program to disinfect the computer.  I don't recall ever having
 installed this software and can't even find it listed.  Can't even go to
 add
 or remove hardware.  When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that
 it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other
 similar stuff.

 I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this.  I'm running Windows XP.
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I can connect to the internet and
 use
 email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my
 computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE,
 while I am only using FireFox).  I keep stopping the scan this new
 antivirus
 program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe
 part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the
 software
 to disinfect it!



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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread George Carr
The other day John Gilroy on WAMU's Computer Guys (and Gal) radio show
recommended a program called Revo to clean up a machine infected with what
sounds like the same malware on your machine:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/  It is able to hunt down the hidden files
which enable the malware to resurrect itself after it has ostensibly been
removed by more conventional methods.
Link to show:
http://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2010-02-02/computer-guys-gal

I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5
seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or
infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using
FireFox).  I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be
running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to
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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread tjpa

On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Ranbo wrote:

*Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy.




I tried this recently and think it is a good place to start. It  
creates a Linux boot disk loaded with tools. Since you are running a  
clean Linux system off the CD you can check your hard disk more  
thoroughly and hot have to worry about your tests being blocked by a  
powned OS.


BitDefender Rescue CD With Auto Update Virus Definition Features
http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus-definition-features/

BitDefender Rescue Disk , a bootable anti virus scanner that scan your  
computer for any virus. BitDefender Rescue Disk has ability to  
automatically update its virus definition which makes it more advance  
than other rescue disk CD utility. The update Anti Virus definition  
will be automatically trigger once the BitDefender rescue disk  
detected internet connection while boot up. Plus more, BitDefender  
security technology consists highly sensitive in detecting both known  
and unknown virus. This free BitDefender Rescue CD also bundles a lot  
of useful third party utilities such as ChkRootkit for scanning for  
rootkis, Nessus Network Scanner as remote network security scanner,  
Mozilla Firefox, Partition Image, GtkRecover and etc to improve  
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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I have had great luck with Super anti malware.

It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked.

Stewart


At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

*Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy.  Keeps popping up with
messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run
programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is
affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an
alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my
files.  Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is
their demonstration.  At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy
this program to disinfect the computer.  I don't recall ever having
installed this software and can't even find it listed.  Can't even go to add
or remove hardware.  When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that
it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other
similar stuff.

I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this.  I'm running Windows XP.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I can connect to the internet and use
email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my
computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE,
while I am only using FireFox).  I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus
program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe
part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software
to disinfect it!

Help!  And thanks

Randall
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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread tjpa

On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:05 PM, George Carr wrote:

The other day John Gilroy on WAMU's Computer Guys (and Gal) radio show
recommended a program called Revo to clean up a machine infected  
with what

sounds like the same malware on your machine:


The software is $40 and is designed for something else. Malware is not  
going to create the uninstall files a program like Revo would need.  
Maybe if you already had it installed and monitoring changes it might  
be able to uninstall some malware, but I would not bet on it. Note  
that its web pages does not say a word about removing malware.



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Re: [CGUYS] Time for a Nation Defense Internet Infrastructure Project?

2010-02-25 Thread tjpa

On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:36 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

Sounds lIke a case could be made not to implement any expansion of
internet access, and even to curtail, limit or eliminate a lot of what
already exists.  I'd have to think that were any evidence to come to
light that a cyber attack was occurring, that internet access would be
shut down for all but necessary systems.


Sound's like today's conservative mantra: don't fix healthcare,  
dismantle it. So I suppose a true conservative would eschew TCP/IP for  
good old reliable smoke signals.



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Re: [CGUYS] Scanner Software [Was: Creepy or what?]

2010-02-25 Thread tjpa

On Feb 22, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Jeff Miles wrote:
And on a completely different subject, has anyone had any luck with  
a scanner on OS X? I have 3 and they all give me problems. 2 of them  
are all in one devices.


The other popular third-party scanner program is VueScan
http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html


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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread George Carr
 The software is $40 and is designed for something else. Malware is not
 going to create the uninstall files a program like Revo would need.
 Maybe if you already had it installed and monitoring changes it might
 be able to uninstall some malware, but I would not bet on it. Note
 that its web pages does not say a word about removing malware.

Yeah, I kind of wondered how one ANY program could be installed on so badly
an infected system, (and I yes I did note that the website says nothing
about removing malware) but John Gilroy did say he used it for that, and
recommended it for that purpose. Maybe there was more to the story than he
had time for. If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss
those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek McGinty.


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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread tjpa

On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:29 PM, George Carr wrote:

If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss
those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek  
McGinty.


I would have gently edged the conversation toward the correct answer.

Battling against those two sure was entertaining.


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[CGUYS] Erratic Delivery [Was: Are USB Drives Dangerous?]

2010-02-25 Thread tjpa

On Feb 24, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Robert Carroll wrote:
As usual, I get only some of the posts on this listserv.  I did not  
get the original post, only a replay that included two previous  
posts, none that were original as far as I can tell.


I get a daily administrative email from the ListServer sent to a GMail  
account. It stopped arriving a few weeks ago. I have not had time to  
figure out what's up with that. Maybe the same problem as yours?



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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Ranbo
Tried a few online scans, didn't work.  The antivirus software alert says
I'm being attacked by BankerFox.A and another time Nugel something.  Keeps
asking me if want block the attack but afraid to do this. Trying to download
Bitdefender now.  Keeps switching me to IE from FF.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:29 PM, George Carr wrote:

 If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss
 those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek
 McGinty.


 I would have gently edged the conversation toward the correct answer.

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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Ranbo
Tried downloading Bitware but every time I try to launch it get message that
it cannot be executed, that rundl32.exe is infected.  So far, can't do
anything.  Had Windows defender, antispyware, anti adware, Zone Alarm Pro,
AVG, but can't seem to access any of them.

Randall

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tried a few online scans, didn't work.  The antivirus software alert says
 I'm being attacked by BankerFox.A and another time Nugel something.  Keeps
 asking me if want block the attack but afraid to do this. Trying to download
 Bitdefender now.  Keeps switching me to IE from FF.

 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:29 PM, George Carr wrote:

 If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss
 those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek
 McGinty.


 I would have gently edged the conversation toward the correct answer.

 Battling against those two sure was entertaining.



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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Tony B
Someone already suggested you try the BitDefender Rescue CD. Have you? If
you can't download and burn that on your machine, maybe you can borrow
someone else's computer? At any rate, don't spend hours and days trying to
figure this out. Just reinstall Windows and you'll be back up in an
afternoon.
http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus-definition-features/


On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tried downloading Bitware but every time I try to launch it get message
 that
 it cannot be executed, that rundl32.exe is infected.  So far, can't do
 anything.  Had Windows defender, antispyware, anti adware, Zone Alarm Pro,
 AVG, but can't seem to access any of them.



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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It is very possible you will need to download the programs you need, 
on another computer, and run them in safe mode to clean it up.


The old Avast would be good as it asked if you wanted to do a boot 
time scan for viruses and it was very effective.


Stewart


At 08:08 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

Tried downloading Bitware but every time I try to launch it get message that
it cannot be executed, that rundl32.exe is infected.  So far, can't do
anything.  Had Windows defender, antispyware, anti adware, Zone Alarm Pro,
AVG, but can't seem to access any of them.

Randall

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tried a few online scans, didn't work.  The antivirus software alert says
 I'm being attacked by BankerFox.A and another time Nugel something.  Keeps
 asking me if want block the attack but afraid to do this. Trying 
to download

 Bitdefender now.  Keeps switching me to IE from FF.

 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:29 PM, George Carr wrote:

 If you were still on the show you coulda ast him. BTW, I miss
 those Edgy Listening first Tuesdays with you, Mr. Gilroy and Derek
 McGinty.


 I would have gently edged the conversation toward the correct answer.

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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Ranbo
Is this a specific program?

Randall

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I have had great luck with Super anti malware.

 It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked.

 Stewart



 At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

 *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy.  Keeps popping up with
 messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to
 run
 programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is
 affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an
 alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my
 files.  Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is
 their demonstration.  At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy
 this program to disinfect the computer.  I don't recall ever having
 installed this software and can't even find it listed.  Can't even go to
 add
 or remove hardware.  When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that
 it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other
 similar stuff.

 I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this.  I'm running Windows XP.
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I can connect to the internet and
 use
 email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say
 my
 computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE,
 while I am only using FireFox).  I keep stopping the scan this new
 antivirus
 program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus,
 maybe
 part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the
 software
 to disinfect it!

 Help!  And thanks

 Randall
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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread George Carr
 Battling against those two sure was entertaining.

Yes.


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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Yes

malwarebytes anti malware

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

Free download and will fix minor problems.

They do want money for a bigger and better program, but this usually 
does the trick.


Stewart


At 08:34 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

Is this a specific program?

Randall

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I have had great luck with Super anti malware.

 It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked.

 Stewart



 At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

 *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy.  Keeps popping up with
 messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to
 run
 programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is
 affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an
 alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my
 files.  Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is
 their demonstration.  At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy
 this program to disinfect the computer.  I don't recall ever having
 installed this software and can't even find it listed.  Can't even go to
 add
 or remove hardware.  When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that
 it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other
 similar stuff.

 I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this.  I'm running Windows XP.
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I can connect to the internet and
 use
 email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say
 my
 computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE,
 while I am only using FireFox).  I keep stopping the scan this new
 antivirus
 program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus,
 maybe
 part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the
 software
 to disinfect it!

 Help!  And thanks

 Randall
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Re: [CGUYS] Time for a Nation Defense Internet Infrastructure Project?

2010-02-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:56 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 Sound's like today's conservative mantra: don't fix healthcare, dismantle
 it. So I suppose a true conservative would eschew TCP/IP for good old
 reliable smoke signals.

  What I was saying is that were our national internet infrastructure
to be attacked, our authorities would likely treat that as they would
likely treat a biological attack through quarantining.

  Some might also say that an all-encompassing internet, all of our
eggs in one basket, could be more likely to cause a major problem were
it to be attacked as opposed to a system that is smaller and more
limited in scope.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Ranbo
*Was able to download the free version but when went to launch got pop up
saying that it is infected and wouldn't launch.  Guess you were right about
having to get the software on another computer.  Something has taken over my
whole computer, like a demonic possession.  Think it needs an exorcism, but
not an expensive one!


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On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Yes

 malwarebytes anti malware

 http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

 Free download and will fix minor problems.

 They do want money for a bigger and better program, but this usually does
 the trick.

 Stewart



 At 08:34 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

 Is this a specific program?

 Randall

 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
 popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

  I have had great luck with Super anti malware.
 
  It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked.
 
  Stewart
 
 
 
  At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:
 
  *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy.  Keeps popping up with
  messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try
 to
  run
  programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is
  affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an
  alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning
 my
  files.  Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is
  their demonstration.  At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to
 buy
  this program to disinfect the computer.  I don't recall ever having
  installed this software and can't even find it listed.  Can't even go
 to
  add
  or remove hardware.  When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice
 that
  it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and
 other
  similar stuff.
 
  I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this.  I'm running Windows
 XP.
  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I can connect to the internet
 and
  use
  email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that
 say
  my
  computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using
 IE,
  while I am only using FireFox).  I keep stopping the scan this new
  antivirus
  program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus,
  maybe
  part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the
  software
  to disinfect it!
 
  Help!  And thanks
 
  Randall
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Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-02-25 Thread Stewart Marshall
Most hijacking software will do this they will tag everything so you 
cant run it or load it.


Stewart


At 09:26 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

*Was able to download the free version but when went to launch got pop up
saying that it is infected and wouldn't launch.  Guess you were right about
having to get the software on another computer.  Something has taken over my
whole computer, like a demonic possession.  Think it needs an exorcism, but
not an expensive one!


*
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Yes

 malwarebytes anti malware

 http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

 Free download and will fix minor problems.

 They do want money for a bigger and better program, but this usually does
 the trick.

 Stewart



 At 08:34 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:

 Is this a specific program?

 Randall

 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
 popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

  I have had great luck with Super anti malware.
 
  It has rescued a few computers that have been hijacked.
 
  Stewart
 
 
 
  At 02:10 PM 2/25/2010, you wrote:
 
  *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy.  Keeps popping up with
  messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try
 to
  run
  programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is
  affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an
  alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning
 my
  files.  Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is
  their demonstration.  At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to
 buy
  this program to disinfect the computer.  I don't recall ever having
  installed this software and can't even find it listed.  Can't even go
 to
  add
  or remove hardware.  When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice
 that
  it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and
 other
  similar stuff.
 
  I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this.  I'm running Windows
 XP.
  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I can connect to the internet
 and
  use
  email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that
 say
  my
  computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using
 IE,
  while I am only using FireFox).  I keep stopping the scan this new
  antivirus
  program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus,
  maybe
  part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the
  software
  to disinfect it!
 
  Help!  And thanks
 
  Randall
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Re: [CGUYS] Time for a Nation Defense Internet Infrastructure Project?

2010-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk

Sounds lIke a case could be made not to implement any expansion of
internet access, and even to curtail, limit or eliminate a lot of what
already exists.  I'd have to think that were any evidence to come to
light that a cyber attack was occurring, that internet access would be
shut down for all but necessary systems.

Sound's like today's conservative mantra: don't fix healthcare, dismantle it. 
So I suppose a true conservative would eschew TCP/IP for good old reliable 
smoke signals.



Why shut it down? Ramping up is better. Can you really shut down 
everything without something drastic and stupid like an EMP? And that 
wouldn't shut down those who are secure and off grid. There are too many 
short cuts and back doors. Expand everything. Are you likely to be attacked?


Who would attack and how? What software and hardware would be shut down 
by a cyber attack anyway?



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