Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
The way this country privatizes everything seems to provide a perverse incentive for doctors inclined to profit as their primary motive. A 'specialist' I went to a couple years ago sent me to get expensive diagnostic scans, x-rays and MRI. When I went for follow-up, he could not find the x-rays. He insisted I needed an outpatient surgery, but got angry when I asked him to discuss it, alternatives and why he thought surgery was necessary. He acted indignant and I got disgusted and told him I would not be coming back. I could not shake the impression that he just wanted to get paid for surgery he would not explain to me. I got well and never did the surgery. I will never go back to that jerk. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- I was writing about over supply and low utilization rates. I don't see how you can fairly leap from that to an insurer murdering its customers to save money. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] charlie miller speaks (he's the security expert taking macs and windows down at pwn2own)
what is the issue with Flash? On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:03 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://gizmodo.com/5483024/security-expert-flash-is-the-root-of-browser-insecurity-oh-and-ie8-isnt-so-bad Highlights from the interview: Win 7 is harder to hack into than os x. Linux really isn't a fortress either depending on distro. Firefox on windows is less safe than IE 8 or Chrome. You want to be secure? Don't install flash. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Judy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Ellen Rains Harris wrote: Read the article. Bonnie has already died. Unfortunately it is in the ultra kooky National Review. It is hard to accept the case they make for anything. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
*Brian, Thanks much for the advice. Before I do reformat and reload my operating system as you suggest, want to be sure I have to go through this. For past 3 days, computer suddenly seems to be working normally, except maybe that I couldn't launch a new anti-malware program (run error) suggested here. Otherwise, things seem to be okay. AVG does report that on 2/26 and 2/27 Trojan horse Generic 16BZFO was found and also the virus vault contains 2 or 3 warnings around that time that a registry key with reference to an infected file was found. There was one other reported infection from a scan back in mid December. Since Feb 27 the daily automatic scans and 2 I did manually report no infections. Does this mean that AVG has found and contained the virus? On 2/26 and 2/27 AVG scan was interrupted before completed and there is a note that the log was corrupted one of those days and an earlier day. The scans since then have been completed according to the log BTW, is it important to delete the viruses in the AVG virus vault? Finally, what are the most likely ways to get this sort of virus, if that's what it is? I do have a back up drive. Thanks Randall * On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Brian Jones uwhar...@carolina.rr.comwrote: Well Rambo, I saw this one on a customers computer last week. It's a tenacious sucker, and yes, it seems to wait a bit before launching after booting in the morning. It traps most operating system calls preventing you from running diagnostic software or restoring your registry to an earlier date. There is good news and bad news... the bad first. You will need to reformat and reload your operating system. The good news: this virus will block all attempts at removal, but it will not interfere with your copying of your important files to a USB drive so: Copy your important files to a backup drive, Look in your owners manual for the sequence to restore your operating system. Go to Windows Update in the Accessories menu (repeatedly) to get your opsys up-to-date. Reload all your favorite programs and files. If you have a Dell, HP, or Compaq, you must hold down an F-key (see owners manual) while booting to discover the hidden partition with your operating system restore files. Older computers will have a disc that came in the box that has the OpSys restore on it. For a few years, computers were delivered without a restore disc, and asked you to make your own (which very few people actually did). For this reason, you can contact the manufacturer and get a restore disc for anywhere from free to $30, depending on the company. There are a few off-brands that don't have a support site, but you can go to special merchants that collect restore disc's and will sell you a set for about $30. Of course, the easiest solution is to drop you machine at a local computer store /repair shop and let them do it.. costs around $100 to $150. Hope this helps! If you give the brand name and model, maybe we can help you find the key-sequence or source disc. Good Luck! - Brian Ranbo wrote: *Since today my Dell desktop is acting crazy. Keeps popping up with messages (every few seconds) that my computer is infected, when I try to run programs it says they are infected, and can't access AVG (says that is affected), can't find Zone Alarm, and several times has brought up an alleged antivirus program called Soft antivirus which starts scanning my files. Actually, not sure if it is really scanning my files or this is their demonstration. At bottom of screen it is trying to get me to buy this program to disinfect the computer. I don't recall ever having installed this software and can't even find it listed. Can't even go to add or remove hardware. When I'm not on the computer for awhile I notice that it is bringing up webpages (fake pages?) for porn sites, VIagra and other similar stuff. I have no idea what to do to try to remedy this. I'm running Windows XP. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I can connect to the internet and use email, so long as about every 5 seconds I say no to the pop-ups that say my computer is at risk or infiltrated or bring up these websites (using IE, while I am only using FireFox). I keep stopping the scan this new antivirus program seems to be running because I am afraid it itself is a virus, maybe part of a scam to infect the computer in order to get me to buy the software to disinfect it! Help! And thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Much harder to get rid of this guy under government health care than free market health care...just look at how hard it is to fire teachers. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: The way this country privatizes everything seems to provide a perverse incentive for doctors inclined to profit as their primary motive. A 'specialist' I went to a couple years ago sent me to get expensive diagnostic scans, x-rays and MRI. When I went for follow-up, he could not find the x-rays. He insisted I needed an outpatient surgery, but got angry when I asked him to discuss it, alternatives and why he thought surgery was necessary. He acted indignant and I got disgusted and told him I would not be coming back. I could not shake the impression that he just wanted to get paid for surgery he would not explain to me. I got well and never did the surgery. I will never go back to that jerk. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- I was writing about over supply and low utilization rates. I don't see how you can fairly leap from that to an insurer murdering its customers to save money. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] charlie miller speaks (he's the security expert taking macs and windows down at pwn2own)
Apparently it's bug ridden. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Judy Cosler jfcos...@gmail.com wrote: what is the issue with Flash? On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:03 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://gizmodo.com/5483024/security-expert-flash-is-the-root-of-browser-insecurity-oh-and-ie8-isnt-so-bad Highlights from the interview: Win 7 is harder to hack into than os x. Linux really isn't a fortress either depending on distro. Firefox on windows is less safe than IE 8 or Chrome. You want to be secure? Don't install flash. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Judy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] charlie miller speaks (he's the security expert taking macs and windows down at pwn2own)
On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Judy Cosler wrote: what is the issue with Flash? Probably because it is not Silverlight. That would be consistent with the rest of his comments. Not that I want to defend either Flash or Silverlight. HTML5 will go a long way to making them both superfluous. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Then cowboy up and buy the Globe and Mail article. It's even more horrifying., - Original Message - From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability] On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Ellen Rains Harris wrote: Read the article. Bonnie has already died. Unfortunately it is in the ultra kooky National Review. It is hard to accept the case they make for anything. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Mike, what are you talking about Government health care for? This was a referral from my primary doctor (get this checked by a specialist) under a for-profit health plan. The doctor wanted to perform surgery when it was unnecessary so he could line his pocket. Sheesh, peel-back the tin foil occasionally. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Much harder to get rid of this guy under government health care than free market health care...just look at how hard it is to fire teachers. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: The way this country privatizes everything seems to provide a perverse incentive for doctors inclined to profit as their primary motive. A 'specialist' I went to a couple years ago sent me to get expensive diagnostic scans, x-rays and MRI. When I went for follow-up, he could not find the x-rays. He insisted I needed an outpatient surgery, but got angry when I asked him to discuss it, alternatives and why he thought surgery was necessary. He acted indignant and I got disgusted and told him I would not be coming back. I could not shake the impression that he just wanted to get paid for surgery he would not explain to me. I got well and never did the surgery. I will never go back to that jerk. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- I was writing about over supply and low utilization rates. I don't see how you can fairly leap from that to an insurer murdering its customers to save money. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
And I said if this guy was a government worker it would be much harder to get rid of him. Thankfully we aren't and you can tell him to bugger off. On Mar 2, 2010 11:40 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Mike, what are you talking about Government health care for? This was a referral from my primary doctor (get this checked by a specialist) under a for-profit health plan. The doctor wanted to perform surgery when it was unnecessary so he could line his pocket. Sheesh, peel-back the tin foil occasionally. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Much harder to get rid of this guy under govern... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a m... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
If he were a government worker? Most of the systems do not employee doctors. They still work the exact same way doctors here work. Fee for service. The problem comes in when a doctor tries to pad his fees by trying to opt for hi profit, hi income procedures without review. I am not talking about emergency surgery stuff, but in this case it did not seem necessary since the client is still alive and doing well. You missed the point, I am sorry. Stewart At 01:00 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote: And I said if this guy was a government worker it would be much harder to get rid of him. Thankfully we aren't and you can tell him to bugger off. On Mar 2, 2010 11:40 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Mike, what are you talking about Government health care for? This was a referral from my primary doctor (get this checked by a specialist) under a for-profit health plan. The doctor wanted to perform surgery when it was unnecessary so he could line his pocket. Sheesh, peel-back the tin foil occasionally. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Much harder to get rid of this guy under govern... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a m... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!
Quoting Ranbo ran...@gmail.com: Thanks much for the advice. Before I do reformat and reload my operating system as you suggest, want to be sure I have to go through this. For past 3 days, computer suddenly seems to be working normally, except maybe that I couldn't launch a new anti-malware program (run error) suggested here. Otherwise, things seem to be okay. I would do it just for the peace of mind. You don't know that you don't have a keystroke logger or some other thing running silently in the background. Try another anti-malware program. Try re-downloading (on a known good computer) the one that gave you the error and running it again. Try an (some) online scan(s). But hey, that's just me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability
Well it looks like the availability of free broadband is not as well distributed across the country as I had thought. I stand corrected. Does anybody know which of their top-10 competitors also offer free WiFi? http://www.weathersealed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/alliance.jpg * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability
At 05:06 PM 3/1/2010, Robert Michael Abrams wrote: And, since we don't live in a culture that's wandering in the desert for 40 years, Are you sure of that? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
I suspect that the government overhead is not properly counted, e.g. the real estate occupied by the program administrators, etc. If it really is only 3%, no wonder government health care is so bad. What is there about government administration that is so marvelous that the private sector can't do? Fred Holmes At 07:13 PM 3/1/2010, tjpa wrote: Bad math. Government run heath care (here and abroad) has overhead of around 3%. Private insurance companies in the US have overhead of around 30%. That difference is 27% of total premiums. Quite a big chunk of change. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Roger Ebert's Voice
As some of you may know, movie critic Roger Ebert lost his voice to cancer about 8 years ago. Today he was on Oprah showing off his new synthesized voice that sounds a lot like his old voice. Quite an emotional moment. He writes about it here http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100226/PEOPLE/100229986 The Oprah video should be online too. He, of course, does this all with his Mac laptop. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability
Let me put it this way. We often act it. Moses oft uttered complaint was that they were a stiff necked people. Think it describes us pretty accurately sometimes. Stewart At 03:29 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote: At 05:06 PM 3/1/2010, Robert Michael Abrams wrote: And, since we don't live in a culture that's wandering in the desert for 40 years, Are you sure of that? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
At 07:18 PM 3/1/2010, tjpa wrote: If bad doctors and hospitals were closed down, insurance rates would go down (provided that the insurance companies did not simply pocket the money). And the _government_ is going to do a better job of closing down bad doctors and hospitals? They could do that now, without changing healht insurance at all. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Part of it is lower overhead. It is why some charities devote over 90% to the clients instead of 60-70 % I know this is going to sound biased but Lutheran World Relief, and Bethesda (both Lutheran Charities) have very low overheads. Why? Lower staff costs. The directors of our charities have salaries that are in the low 100's. No million $ salaries for our guys. So with their salaries being lower the staff salaries will be lower on comparison. Plus streamlined processing of everything. A governmental insurance agency is not about pleasing its investors, it is not about looking good. (Costs of buildings is one huge difference.) In church terms it is called stewardship of monies. They have to be better stewards as the price for not being so, is much higher. Stewart At 03:36 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote: I suspect that the government overhead is not properly counted, e.g. the real estate occupied by the program administrators, etc. If it really is only 3%, no wonder government health care is so bad. What is there about government administration that is so marvelous that the private sector can't do? Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
On Mar 2, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Part of it is lower overhead. It is why some charities devote over 90% to the clients instead of 60-70 % I know this is going to sound biased but Lutheran World Relief, and Bethesda (both Lutheran Charities) have very low overheads. Why? Lower staff costs. The directors of our charities have salaries that are in the low 100's. No million $ salaries for our guys. So with their salaries being lower the staff salaries will be lower on comparison. Plus streamlined processing of everything. A governmental insurance agency is not about pleasing its investors, it is not about looking good. (Costs of buildings is one huge difference.) In church terms it is called stewardship of monies. They have to be better stewards as the price for not being so, is much higher. Thank you. Exactly on target. I see the same thing myself as I visit clients. When top management is there only for the money they bleed the organization of resources to transfer as much money as possible to themselves. Their employees are using computers that are much too old and working around broken systems. They are running software that is several versions back. Employees can barely get their jobs done. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: And the _government_ is going to do a better job of closing down bad doctors and hospitals? And why would they not? Do you say mockingly And the _police_ are going to arrest bank robbers and murderers? You bet they do. The government can function quite well thank you. That does not mean that it does not get subverted. Yes that happens too. Especially when wing nuts who despise government are in charge. (Look at the functioning of the EEOC under Bush for one example among many.) When allowed to do its job the government is full of dedicated people who are deeply committed to their jobs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: I suspect that the government overhead is not properly counted, e.g. the real estate occupied by the program administrators, etc. If it really is only 3%, no wonder government health care is so bad. Why do you expect people who are solely motivated by greed to do a better job at caring for the sick than those who are motivated by altruism? That is completely illogical. What you are promoting is death panels whose members get bonuses tied to the number of people they condemn. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Do not think our folks run the latest and the greatest either. Non profits are usually the last to upgrade their equipment as they do not get to depreciate their stuff, but have to justify all their expenses. So far I have covered most of my own computer expenses in my church even to the point of supplying network equipment. Church office got a new CPU a few years ago only because I pushed it. Right now I need to approach them about a flat screen for my office as I am having sight problems (Simply old eyes and I need a larger view.) I am hoping they will spring 150 or for a new one. (not sure they tend to be very tight) But even governmental units tend to be tight on equipment purchases. Stewart At 05:13 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote: Thank you. Exactly on target. I see the same thing myself as I visit clients. When top management is there only for the money they bleed the organization of resources to transfer as much money as possible to themselves. Their employees are using computers that are much too old and working around broken systems. They are running software that is several versions back. Employees can barely get their jobs done. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
What altruist is going to come in and run health care...this is a false argument since there are none. On Mar 2, 2010 4:31 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: I suspect that the government overhead is not pro... Why do you expect people who are solely motivated by greed to do a better job at caring for the sick than those who are motivated by altruism? That is completely illogical. What you are promoting is death panels whose members get bonuses tied to the number of people they condemn. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
At least in Medicare, there are quite a few costs which go into the overhead of private insurance which are not counted in Medicare. See: http://emac.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/08/26/medicare-more-efficient-than-private-insurance/ Analysis in this article demonstrates that the overhead is actually lower with private insurance than with Medicare on a per patient basis. And as for the streamlined processing of Medicare, this is not done by a government agency but contracted out by CMS to private processors, in my case here in the DC area, it's Highmark Medicare Services Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Part of it is lower overhead. It is why some charities devote over 90% to the clients instead of 60-70 % I know this is going to sound biased but Lutheran World Relief, and Bethesda (both Lutheran Charities) have very low overheads. Why? Lower staff costs. The directors of our charities have salaries that are in the low 100's. No million $ salaries for our guys. So with their salaries being lower the staff salaries will be lower on comparison. Plus streamlined processing of everything. A governmental insurance agency is not about pleasing its investors, it is not about looking good. (Costs of buildings is one huge difference.) In church terms it is called stewardship of monies. They have to be better stewards as the price for not being so, is much higher. Stewart At 03:36 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote: I suspect that the government overhead is not properly counted, e.g. the real estate occupied by the program administrators, etc. If it really is only 3%, no wonder government health care is so bad. What is there about government administration that is so marvelous that the private sector can't do? Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: 03/02/10 02:34:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
You are right there are no true altruists (sounds contradictory) However there those who can run a business or agency who are not heavily influenced by one side or the other. Most medical clinics are run by whom? Doctors mostly. A good insurance company will be run by someone who is paid a flat rate and is not influenced by performance bonuses etc. One of the loses in modern society is people who work and have a sense of vocation or calling. They do this as they feel this is what they are supposed to do, not earn an incredible amount of money and go elsewhere. (trying to leave the God talk out of it.) Stewart At 05:48 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote: What altruist is going to come in and run health care...this is a false argument since there are none. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:48 PM, mike wrote: What altruist is going to come in and run health care...this is a false argument since there are none. You live in a sad, sad world. Most of the rest of us don't. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Try and shut down a hospital. The feds have no controls over hospitals except for VA and military. It is all state. And the best they can do is to pull Medicaid funding from a hospital. (Feds can pull Medicare funds, but only if they really screw up.) Down here most hospitals are not community owned but private enterprises so they are owned by a corp! Now an accrediting agency can pull accreditation on a hospital, but again, that is usually a very bold move for really screwing up. But the answer is no federal agency can close a public/private hospital down. (Except for the notation I made above) Stewart At 03:39 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote: And the _government_ is going to do a better job of closing down bad doctors and hospitals? They could do that now, without changing healht insurance at all. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: http://emac.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/08/26/medicare-more-efficient-than-private-insurance/ If your view of the world comes from Fox News you are not living on this planet. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] charlie miller speaks (he's the security expert taking macs and windows down at pwn2own)
tjpa On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Judy Cosler wrote: what is the issue with Flash? Probably because it is not Silverlight. That would be consistent with the rest of his comments. Not that I want to defend either Flash or Silverlight. HTML5 will go a long way to making them both superfluous. I think Flash has other issues, for example Flash cookies that store information about you even if you have cookies disabled as long as Flash/javascript are enabled. I hope that HTML5 fixes everything, but I have to wonder what holes are exposed. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I am always exact and precise, more or less. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Roger Ebert's Voice
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:41 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: As some of you may know, movie critic Roger Ebert lost his voice to cancer about 8 years ago. Today he was on Oprah showing off his new synthesized voice that sounds a lot like his old voice. Quite an emotional moment. He writes about it here http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100226/PEOPLE/100229986 The Oprah video should be online too. He, of course, does this all with his Mac laptop. He is also blessed by virtue of having a huge number of hours of his voice available from having been recorded for all those years that he hosted that movie review show, That is what made the synthesis possible to the best of my knowledge. That means of synthesis, perhaps more accurately called sampling, is what has been used many times to assemble phrases that appear on the surface to have been uttered by a famous personality who has a voice that is easily recognizable. I have a recording by a British group called Black Grape wherein Ronald Reagan's voice has been used to assemble a number of phrases and spoken passages that have him talking all about how he wants to legalize marijuana and how his wife is hooked on heroin. It is so well done that one would swear that Reagan himself was actually caught on an open mike saying that stuff. But, again, that was possible due to the enormous amount of recorded audio that was available for use, a la the Ebert situation. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Roger Ebert's Voice
On NPR last week on what I believe is Tech Friday show? they interviewed spokespeople from the company in Scotland and they discussed this. It was neat. Stewart At 07:01 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:41 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: As some of you may know, movie critic Roger Ebert lost his voice to cancer about 8 years ago. Today he was on Oprah showing off his new synthesized voice that sounds a lot like his old voice. Quite an emotional moment. He writes about it here http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100226/PEOPLE/100229986 The Oprah video should be online too. He, of course, does this all with his Mac laptop. He is also blessed by virtue of having a huge number of hours of his voice available from having been recorded for all those years that he hosted that movie review show, That is what made the synthesis possible to the best of my knowledge. That means of synthesis, perhaps more accurately called sampling, is what has been used many times to assemble phrases that appear on the surface to have been uttered by a famous personality who has a voice that is easily recognizable. I have a recording by a British group called Black Grape wherein Ronald Reagan's voice has been used to assemble a number of phrases and spoken passages that have him talking all about how he wants to legalize marijuana and how his wife is hooked on heroin. It is so well done that one would swear that Reagan himself was actually caught on an open mike saying that stuff. But, again, that was possible due to the enormous amount of recorded audio that was available for use, a la the Ebert situation. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Could you please be specific in what is wrong with the analysis in this article. And, yes, my view of the world comes from Fox News, along with CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, the New York Times, the Washington Post among others. I don't see how you can live on this planet and not pay attention to the arguments on both sides of important issues. This article seems to make sense to me; please convince me where I go wrong, and I'll change my opinion. tjpa wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: http://emac.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/08/26/medicare-more-efficient-than-private-insurance/ If your view of the world comes from Fox News you are not living on this planet. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2719 - Release Date: 03/02/10 14:34:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
OK. What altruist is going to come in and run health care? On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:19 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:48 PM, mike wrote: What altruist is going to come in and run health care...this is a false argument since there are none. You live in a sad, sad world. Most of the rest of us don't. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%
http://blog.quantcast.com/quantcast/2010/02/os-share.html Also note the plot of Windows gradual decline. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Apparently you haven't met Mr. Piwowar, ideologue extraordinaire and sometime poker to keep the list hot. I don't see how you can live on this planet and not pay attention to the arguments on both sides of important issues. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:34 PM, mike wrote: I don't see how you can live on this planet and not pay attention to the arguments on both sides of important issues. Fox reports the news of a different planet. I don't live there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%
Shouldn't it be web usage share? On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:27 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://blog.quantcast.com/quantcast/2010/02/os-share.html Also note the plot of Windows gradual decline. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: Could you please be specific in what is wrong with the analysis in this article. Read the comments. One in particular explains it quite clearly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
I know the name of the channel is Fox News, but there are two distinct components. Commentary and news. Commentary includes the very conservative Hannity, the populist O'Reilly, the libertarian Beck, and the running-for-president Huckabee. I don't live on their planet. News, for me, consists of Fox News Sunday hosted by Chris Wallace (a Democrat), who bars no holds whether interviewing the right or the left, and Special Report with Bret Baier with straight news and a panel discussion with analysts from the right (Krouthammer), left (Juan Williams) and middle (Mara Liaason). I think both shows do a good job of covering all sides of major issues. But then, YMMV. (And, yes, much of their daytime shows are tabloid hoohah with car chases and Amber alerts, but I don't consider this news) And, before you say it, I've heard those on the left say they hate Fox because they believe the American people are too stupid to understand the difference between commentary and news. tjpa wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:34 PM, mike wrote: I don't see how you can live on this planet and not pay attention to the arguments on both sides of important issues. Fox reports the news of a different planet. I don't live there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2719 - Release Date: 03/02/10 14:34:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Shepard Smith is also know for going off on Republicans, not Democrats during his show. He just did it again the other day. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I know the name of the channel is Fox News, but there are two distinct components. Commentary and news. Commentary includes the very conservative Hannity, the populist O'Reilly, the libertarian Beck, and the running-for-president Huckabee. I don't live on their planet. News, for me, consists of Fox News Sunday hosted by Chris Wallace (a Democrat), who bars no holds whether interviewing the right or the left, and Special Report with Bret Baier with straight news and a panel discussion with analysts from the right (Krouthammer), left (Juan Williams) and middle (Mara Liaason). I think both shows do a good job of covering all sides of major issues. But then, YMMV. (And, yes, much of their daytime shows are tabloid hoohah with car chases and Amber alerts, but I don't consider this news) And, before you say it, I've heard those on the left say they hate Fox because they believe the American people are too stupid to understand the difference between commentary and news. tjpa wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:34 PM, mike wrote: I don't see how you can live on this planet and not pay attention to the arguments on both sides of important issues. Fox reports the news of a different planet. I don't live there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2719 - Release Date: 03/02/10 14:34:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%
More accurately, some specific subset of web use share. If they've got a single mac-centric website in the mix like 2-pop then all the figures could be skewed. All current figures I've seen show Mac holding at around 5%, and I just checked my own AWstats and that's still pretty much the case with 4.7%. But it *is* an increase from 2/08 when Macs were at 2.1%. Windows was 89.8% in 2/08 and has pretty much held steady with 92.5% 2/10. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:01 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't it be web usage share? On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:27 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://blog.quantcast.com/quantcast/2010/02/os-share.html Also note the plot of Windows gradual decline. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Roger Ebert's Voice
Quoting phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com: He is also blessed by virtue of having a huge number of hours of his voice available from having been recorded for all those years that he hosted that movie review show, That is what made the synthesis possible to the best of my knowledge. That means of synthesis, perhaps more accurately called sampling, is what has been used many times to assemble phrases that appear on the surface to have been uttered by a famous personality who has a voice that is easily recognizable. Stephen Hawking has, apparently, had opportunities over the years to upgrade his voice but hasn't because what he has now is recognizable as him. BTW, does anybody know where to get his voice? It would be nice to have someone other than Microsoft Mary barking out directions on the GPS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
