Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
then shop Costco or BJ's. they are so much better. i think you will have much difficulty living and shopping in USA and not finding the same porblems. what percentage of your beloved MAC products are produced offshore, by slave labor? At 11:49 PM 1/28/2009, you wrote: b_s-wilk wrote: I don't shop at Sam's club, since it's owned by evil trolls. ? Please elucidate. Sam's Club is owned by Walmart. Since Sam Walton died Walmart has been the epitome of a bad neighbor. They get tax breaks from local communities, often paying no local tax, sell products below cost until the competition goes out of business, mislabel products as 'made in US' when they're imported [not from US territories either], make employees work off the clock, fire employees who want to have a union, and underpay their employees so badly that many have to apply for food stamps and state health care programs. Worst, the Waltons, Alice Walton in particular, has been spending $millions for lobbying to repeal the estate tax so they can keep all of their +$80 billions and not pay for the resources that gave Sam Walton the opportunity to build his company in the first place. Sorry, Stewart, et al, that you don't have choices where you live. Sometimes we don't either. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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You know, I really wonder how I seem to stay profitable and have zero employee turnover. I really ought to get into a line of work that doesn't really need all these highly skilled career professionals that I'm competing for. A couple of years ago I listened to an interview with the president of BJ's on this topic. They are in a similar business to Sam's/WalMart, but have a very different business model in regards to their employees. BJ's managers concluded that paying better wages and taking better care of employees would more than pay for itself in higher productivity from lower turnover. He sounded very much like you, wondering about Sam's/WalMart very different decision. We see decisions like this all the time in business. Circuit City fired all their experienced staff a little over a year ago. I opined here that this would lead to their downfall. It did. Some managers even think that saving a few $100 on cheap PCs instead of getting highly-productive Macs is good management. Hard to believe, but true. It does seem to work for WalMart. To understand why you need to look more broadly. WalMart is profiting from loopholes in the system. They aggressively shift costs to the government and local communities. It is sort of like the economic equivalent of pollution. The reason pollution pays is that the polluter is not made to pay the full cost of their actions. The community pays. The polluter profits. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Slave labor, was Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
What percentage of everything you consume is produced offshore by slave labor ? What do you think your Nikes (anywhere) and Kathy Lee Gifford $20 skirts (Walmart) would cost without it? Would you be willing to pay the true cost of such items when made by well-paid workers? Clearly, you've never been in Asia, where slave labor provides money to families who would otherwise lack it or otherwise starve or sell their children into the sex trade of the slums as an alternative. what percentage of your beloved MAC products are produced offshore, by slave labor? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Slave labor, was Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
Clearly, you've never been in Asia, where slave labor provides money to families who would otherwise lack it or otherwise starve or sell their children into the sex trade of the slums as an alternative. i do believe tom's neocon would want to know what was wrong with that picture, and could not the family still make product, and sell the hotties into sex trade. that was the business of Jack Abromov and The Hammer deLay. dig around a bit on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Islands Marianahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Islands Islands work practices. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Slave labor, was Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
At 12:53 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: What percentage of everything you consume is produced offshore by slave labor ? excluding food(we eat a lot of food from mexico and south america) and wine, i would guess well over 50%, and maybe even over 75%. last i heard, japan and korea allowed most all of a product to be built in se asia or eastern africa and still get a made in japan/korea label. almost anything smaller than an automobile is made with slave labor. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Nice shot just wish there was one close by. There isn't so I visit with the trolls. Stewart At 04:40 PM 1/28/2009, you wrote: Costco business membership is $100. You get rebates on purchases. With the regular memberships at Costco and BJs, there's good prices but no rebates. Sometimes it's worth it to pay more to get more. I don't shop at Sam's club, since it's owned by evil trolls. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
Slight correction, with the combined Costco membership/American Express charge card, you do get rebates for charged purchased at Costco with the regular [Gold Star] membership. The business account isn't the same. YMMV Costco business membership is $100. You get rebates on purchases. With the regular memberships at Costco and BJs, there's good prices but no rebates. Sometimes it's worth it to pay more to get more. I don't shop at Sam's club, since it's owned by evil trolls. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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b_s-wilk wrote: I don't shop at Sam's club, since it's owned by evil trolls. ? Please elucidate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I don't shop at Sam's club, since it's owned by evil trolls. Please elucidate. Walmart. The folks who shipped all those US jobs to China. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:21:36 -0500, Robert wrote: b_s-wilk wrote: I don't shop at Sam's club, since it's owned by evil trolls. ? Please elucidate. Evil Troll Wal*Mart and Sams*Club are owned by the same Evil-Doers. -- Katan Welcome to ObamaNation! Our long national nightmare is over. Gerald Ford * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
b_s-wilk wrote: I don't shop at Sam's club, since it's owned by evil trolls. ? Please elucidate. Sam's Club is owned by Walmart. Since Sam Walton died Walmart has been the epitome of a bad neighbor. They get tax breaks from local communities, often paying no local tax, sell products below cost until the competition goes out of business, mislabel products as 'made in US' when they're imported [not from US territories either], make employees work off the clock, fire employees who want to have a union, and underpay their employees so badly that many have to apply for food stamps and state health care programs. Worst, the Waltons, Alice Walton in particular, has been spending $millions for lobbying to repeal the estate tax so they can keep all of their +$80 billions and not pay for the resources that gave Sam Walton the opportunity to build his company in the first place. Sorry, Stewart, et al, that you don't have choices where you live. Sometimes we don't either. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
To compensate for the risk I would want a really big discount. I bet they won't be offering anything that big. Every time I checked Circuit City prices against others I found Circuit City (and Best Buy too) were much too high. Even adding shipping costs for a large TV I saved $100s by shopping on the internet. So be sure to do your research. Often liquidators will haul in all kinds of junk to unload on bargain-crazed consumers. With TVs it is often hard to tell exactly what you are buying. Every brand has many models and stores like Circuit City sometimes get their own model numbers so it is hard to compare. *RCA tv from the 60s that was hand-me-down seems to have finally died, just in time for me to consider buying a new, HD-ready tv. Someone suggested I might get a deal at Circuit City but wonder if it would be too much of a gamble if something goes wrong and all sales are final. Anyone here been snapping up any bargains there? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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They get tax breaks from local communities, often paying no local tax, sell products below cost until the competition goes out of business, mislabel products as 'made in US' when they're imported [not from US territories either], make employees work off the clock, fire employees who want to have a union, and underpay their employees so badly that many have to apply for food stamps and state health care programs. Wow, how do they do that? All of my employees are forced to pay union dues, are given no choice about full medical care, pensions, educational benefits, and have guaranteed no layoff contracts. I also make them comply with OSHA standards and cruelly pay for their educations and in fact I force them to sit through required professional training throughout their careers. I personally supervise their professional development and on numerous occasions make them do stuff like take long, onerous breaks at high class restaurants to eat lunch at my expense. Even though they cry for more I never let them work for more than 37.5 hours a week, except in cases where they bend my arm, and then I'm more than likely to double their wages (which are extremely high to begin with). Occasionally Ben-Hur's galley has to get up to ramming speed, but that's where the training and loyalty pays off. I'd like to see how they do that at Wal-Mart. Every now and then I compel them to accept presents. Even worse, I make it a point to torture them by accomodating their personal lives and maintaining a flexible attitude, which I know is merely an exhibition of weakness. You know, I really wonder how I seem to stay profitable and have zero employee turnover. I really ought to get into a line of work that doesn't really need all these highly skilled career professionals that I'm competing for. I guess Wal-Mart can make it work, after a fashion, but my business model is different. Anyone that deliver the kind of professional levels of expertise and reliability that I'm looking for is welcome to come and compete for the jobs that I probably don't have openings for once every five years or so. Although I usually replace due to promotions, not hiring. I am going to be looking for education, experience, security clearances, long resumes, and suchlike. I haven't got the budget or the headcount to do interns anymore. What disturbs me is that there doesn't appear to be an entry level middle sort of job anymore. I started as an operator at the phone company, but I started with a degree in psychology and considerable grad school. I knew that was equivalent to working in the mailroom but there was a path to advancement. I'd say that the economy was pretty bad back then, I did some crap jobs too and it's easy to say a job sucks until you haven't got one. That is what Walmart counts on, they'll AWAYS have a work force no matter what. I'm in a position now to not operate that way, but I wasn't always. I don't care for Wal-Mart, and I won't buy there, but it is what it is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
i bought one of these: http://www.buy.com/retail/usersearchresults.asp?querytype=homequ=samsung+dlpqxt=homedisplay=col comes with complete mfgr's warranty. it was airfreighted from CA. arrived in about 2 days. 61 LED DLP. the price is $1200 compared to $2000 at best buy. i am pretty certain that it is being sold from a warehouse front of samsung. buy.com is just a larger ordering house. if you can live with the small lump in the back, this is a good option to plasma. standard dlp goes through the light source in 1000(?) hrs. this is not much if you walk away from the TV and leave it on for 10 hrs a day.(3 months!!). the leds last much longer, i have not checked as to how long. this tv is very bright. At 08:58 PM 1/26/2009, you wrote: *RCA tv from the 60s that was hand-me-down seems to have finally died, just in time for me to consider buying a new, HD-ready tv. Someone suggested I might get a deal at Circuit City but wonder if it would be too much of a gamble if something goes wrong and all sales are final. Anyone here been snapping up any bargains there? Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City? / No Savings at Circuit City Liquidation Sale
As far as I know these sales are not administered by the Store themselves but an outside agency whose job it is to get the biggest bucks possible to pay off creditors. Stewart At 09:25 AM 1/27/2009, you wrote: No savings at CC Liquidation Sales. When Tower Records liquidated, I found the same. From the Washington Post. *http://tinyurl.com/cmous4 John Settle * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
Is that $100 per year? Don't live very close to Costco and don't spend that much per year, so may not make sense for me to get business account anyway. Thanks for your and everyone else's suggestions. Pretty definitely going to stay away from CC liquidation, unless it's near the end of the liquidation period (ends sometime in March) and they still have tvs, so have to mark them way, way down. Nice fantasy, anyway. BTW, what's the weather doing up there today? Randall On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:09 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Did you find any particular online sites you found good TV deals on? Don't buy a TV online. Buy it in a store. That is, unless you will be home when it's delivered, and the delivery truck driver will wait while you unpack the TV to test it. Many online sites won't take TVs back once the box is opened. If they do, you'll have to pay shipping. In 2007 we joined Costco to buy two TVs. We got a business membership with an American Express card. Along with the 37 and 42 HDTVs, we got other good deals. Both Costco and AmEx give cash rebates on purchases to business members. Membership cost $100. Our rebate for the year was $148, plus the $10 cash incentive for joining in the first place. We bought one TV on sale and the other was a markdown. No rebates with a regular membership. A year later, in October, a friend got an incredible deal on a Sharp Aquos HDTV at Sears. She shopped online and picked it up in the store. No interest, 24 months, or 10% cash rebate. Look for the deals in the Sunday newspapers. Consider the supermarket ads too. We bought a Daewoo TV at our local ShopRite store for less than $100 a few years ago on Black Friday. I see HDTVs there now. Does Giant or Wegman's sell TVs? BJs has good deals, and there was a free pass in Sunday's coupon flyers. Some office, electronics or computer specialty stores have HDTVs. I'd start at Sears. Come on up to Delaware to buy your TV. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City? / No Savings at Circuit City Liquidation Sale
Quoting John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com: Sue Cubic wrote: If I bought something under these final sale circumstances, I think I'd demand to take it out of the box at the store. Sue No savings at CC Liquidation Sales. When Tower Records liquidated, I found the same. That's what I found. I went to CC in Naptown on Friday. They've got 10% off the good stuff (stuff you'd *go* to CC to buy [TVs, computers, stereos]), 20% off CDs and DVDs, 30% off furniture (TV stands). That's not really as good as a good sale. They had a couple of bare spots, but they had signs around proclaiming new merchandise arriving daily. I suspect that when they closer to having to actually close stores they'll ratchet up the discounts. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City? / No Savings at Circuit City Liquidation Sale
i read that XXX??? liquidators bought the merchandise. creditors are out of the loop. so is CC. At 10:26 AM 1/27/2009, you wrote: As far as I know these sales are not administered by the Store themselves but an outside agency whose job it is to get the biggest bucks possible to pay off creditors. Stewart At 09:25 AM 1/27/2009, you wrote: No savings at CC Liquidation Sales. When Tower Records liquidated, I found the same. From the Washington Post. *http://tinyurl.com/cmous4 John Settle * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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61!!So what time is the Superbowl party?! I got the beer! Randall On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:36 AM, gerald ger...@slawecki.com wrote: i bought one of these: http://www.buy.com/retail/usersearchresults.asp?querytype=homequ=samsung+dlpqxt=homedisplay=col comes with complete mfgr's warranty. it was airfreighted from CA. arrived in about 2 days. 61 LED DLP. the price is $1200 compared to $2000 at best buy. i am pretty certain that it is being sold from a warehouse front of samsung. buy.com is just a larger ordering house. if you can live with the small lump in the back, this is a good option to plasma. standard dlp goes through the light source in 1000(?) hrs. this is not much if you walk away from the TV and leave it on for 10 hrs a day.(3 months!!). the leds last much longer, i have not checked as to how long. this tv is very bright. At 08:58 PM 1/26/2009, you wrote: *RCA tv from the 60s that was hand-me-down seems to have finally died, just in time for me to consider buying a new, HD-ready tv. Someone suggested I might get a deal at Circuit City but wonder if it would be too much of a gamble if something goes wrong and all sales are final. Anyone here been snapping up any bargains there? Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
*RCA tv from the 60s that was hand-me-down seems to have finally died, just in time for me to consider buying a new, HD-ready tv. Someone suggested I might get a deal at Circuit City but wonder if it would be too much of a gamble if something goes wrong and all sales are final. Anyone here been snapping up any bargains there? Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I heard there weren't so many bargains on big ticket items. db Ranbo wrote: *RCA tv from the 60s that was hand-me-down seems to have finally died, just in time for me to consider buying a new, HD-ready tv. Someone suggested I might get a deal at Circuit City but wonder if it would be too much of a gamble if something goes wrong and all sales are final. Anyone here been snapping up any bargains there? Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
Thanks, Did you find any particular online sites you found good TV deals on? Randall On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: To compensate for the risk I would want a really big discount. I bet they won't be offering anything that big. Every time I checked Circuit City prices against others I found Circuit City (and Best Buy too) were much too high. Even adding shipping costs for a large TV I saved $100s by shopping on the internet. So be sure to do your research. Often liquidators will haul in all kinds of junk to unload on bargain-crazed consumers. With TVs it is often hard to tell exactly what you are buying. Every brand has many models and stores like Circuit City sometimes get their own model numbers so it is hard to compare. *RCA tv from the 60s that was hand-me-down seems to have finally died, just in time for me to consider buying a new, HD-ready tv. Someone suggested I might get a deal at Circuit City but wonder if it would be too much of a gamble if something goes wrong and all sales are final. Anyone here been snapping up any bargains there? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
At 08:58 PM 01/26/2009 -0500, Ranbo wrote *RCA tv from the 60s that was hand-me-down seems to have finally died, just in time for me to consider buying a new, HD-ready tv. Someone suggested I might get a deal at Circuit City but wonder if it would be too much of a gamble if something goes wrong and all sales are final. Anyone here been snapping up any bargains there? Our local CC store has no real bargains. Best I saw was 10% off a few TV's, nothing off any computers yet. All sales final worries me a lot. When I bought a new TV (not from CC) last spring, I got it home and found the screen broken right in the center! There was no damage on the box. Some of the packing material was missing from the box, but the box was stapled shut as if it had never been opened. If I bought something under these final sale circumstances, I think I'd demand to take it out of the box at the store. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
At 09:12 PM 01/26/2009 -0600, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote You have every right to, but also understand all manufacturers warranties are still valid. Do you think a manufacturer would stand behind damage most likely caused in the store's warehouse? They might have in my case, as it was pretty obvious that all of the packing material wasn't in the box. Styro blocks were along one side, but not the other. I saw the breakage before ever taking it out of the box, so back to the store it went! Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yeah, but imagine it can be quite a hassle, and maybe expense, to try to deal with the manufacturer if you get home with a defective item. Think I'm (and Sue's story) is talking me out of the CC option. Randall On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: You have every right to, but also understand all manufacturers warranties are still valid. Stewart At 09:01 PM 1/26/2009, you wrote: Our local CC store has no real bargains. Best I saw was 10% off a few TV's, nothing off any computers yet. All sales final worries me a lot. When I bought a new TV (not from CC) last spring, I got it home and found the screen broken right in the center! There was no damage on the box. Some of the packing material was missing from the box, but the box was stapled shut as if it had never been opened. If I bought something under these final sale circumstances, I think I'd demand to take it out of the box at the store. Sue Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying tv from Circuit City?
Did you find any particular online sites you found good TV deals on? Don't buy a TV online. Buy it in a store. That is, unless you will be home when it's delivered, and the delivery truck driver will wait while you unpack the TV to test it. Many online sites won't take TVs back once the box is opened. If they do, you'll have to pay shipping. In 2007 we joined Costco to buy two TVs. We got a business membership with an American Express card. Along with the 37 and 42 HDTVs, we got other good deals. Both Costco and AmEx give cash rebates on purchases to business members. Membership cost $100. Our rebate for the year was $148, plus the $10 cash incentive for joining in the first place. We bought one TV on sale and the other was a markdown. No rebates with a regular membership. A year later, in October, a friend got an incredible deal on a Sharp Aquos HDTV at Sears. She shopped online and picked it up in the store. No interest, 24 months, or 10% cash rebate. Look for the deals in the Sunday newspapers. Consider the supermarket ads too. We bought a Daewoo TV at our local ShopRite store for less than $100 a few years ago on Black Friday. I see HDTVs there now. Does Giant or Wegman's sell TVs? BJs has good deals, and there was a free pass in Sunday's coupon flyers. Some office, electronics or computer specialty stores have HDTVs. I'd start at Sears. Come on up to Delaware to buy your TV. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *