Re: [CGUYS] UPS Question

2007-10-15 Thread MrMike6by9
The more sophisticated units often have self-test circuitry even if
the unit is setup to be monitored by a connected computer; this may
relate to the 2-4 AM thing. The other issue might be a failing
battery. They do wear out. I have 2 TrippLite 1000VA units that have a
real time read-out for the line voltage. They were about $100 the last
time I saw one at Costco.

YMMV


 I know UPS issues have been covered in the past. As many of you may know, I'm
 an advocate of using them. Recently (within the past 2 weeks!) we have begun
 having UPS issues:

 To wit: Sometimes, in the middle of the night (2 am - 4 am), two of our UPS's
 begin to click / beep. Not sound an alarm, mind you, just to click / beep
 quietly in a rhythmic pattern. I cannot find reference to what this might 
 mean,
 though I think it means that the circuit being used is browning out power 
 and
 the UPS is making up the missing power.

 Last night this happened at about 11 pm!!!

 Eventually, the UPS's (we have many, but only two are involved in this
 situation) begin to blare. Then everything shuts down and they continue to 
 blare
 until reset and recharged.

 This is a very frustrating situation as it only affects two of our 4 UPS
 units (all in the same room, but possibly on separate circuits). It is also
 happening to a neighbor! Same scenario. Only our UPS's are far enough 
 away that
 they don't wake us. Hers, sadly, wakes her when it begins to scream. (Please
 don't ask about the 2 am - 4 am thing. I sometimes work late into the
 night/morning.)

 We can tell when this scenario has occurred because a telephone answering
 machine ceases to work, and because my iMac is turned off. There are two UPS
 units involved. One has only the telephone answering machine plugged into its
 battery back-up sockets, and the other has only my iMac connected to its 
 battery
 back-up sockets. Dedicated UPS's if you will. It is unclear if these are on 
 the
 same circuit breaker or not. It's also weird that sometimes one of the UPS's
 is affected, and sometimes both of them are affected at the same time.

 I have searched for references to sounds made by APC UPS units without
 success. These units are all relatively new (a higher capacity one was 
 purchased
 last week for my computer in the hope that would help resolve the problem 
 with my
 computer shutting down, but to no avail), and their batteries should be in
 good condition.

 Any help / advice / would be appreciated.


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[CGUYS] UPS Question

2007-10-14 Thread Chrperson
I know UPS issues have been covered in the past. As many of you may know, I'm 
an advocate of using them. Recently (within the past 2 weeks!) we have begun 
having UPS issues:

To wit: Sometimes, in the middle of the night (2 am - 4 am), two of our UPS's 
begin to click / beep. Not sound an alarm, mind you, just to click / beep 
quietly in a rhythmic pattern. I cannot find reference to what this might mean, 
though I think it means that the circuit being used is browning out power and 
the UPS is making up the missing power. 

Last night this happened at about 11 pm!!!

Eventually, the UPS's (we have many, but only two are involved in this 
situation) begin to blare. Then everything shuts down and they continue to 
blare 
until reset and recharged.

This is a very frustrating situation as it only affects two of our 4 UPS 
units (all in the same room, but possibly on separate circuits). It is also 
happening to a neighbor! Same scenario. Only our UPS's are far enough away 
that 
they don't wake us. Hers, sadly, wakes her when it begins to scream. (Please 
don't ask about the 2 am - 4 am thing. I sometimes work late into the 
night/morning.) 

We can tell when this scenario has occurred because a telephone answering 
machine ceases to work, and because my iMac is turned off. There are two UPS 
units involved. One has only the telephone answering machine plugged into its 
battery back-up sockets, and the other has only my iMac connected to its 
battery 
back-up sockets. Dedicated UPS's if you will. It is unclear if these are on the 
same circuit breaker or not. It's also weird that sometimes one of the UPS's 
is affected, and sometimes both of them are affected at the same time.

I have searched for references to sounds made by APC UPS units without 
success. These units are all relatively new (a higher capacity one was 
purchased 
last week for my computer in the hope that would help resolve the problem with 
my 
computer shutting down, but to no avail), and their batteries should be in 
good condition. 

Any help / advice / would be appreciated.

Mical Wilmoth Carton
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Re: [CGUYS] UPS Question

2007-10-14 Thread gerald
A UPS will also get unstable and noisy if the voltage goes up.  appliances and 
electronics will be unhappy also.  get a line meter from radio shack(i am not a 
part of radio shack).  

If the meter is bouncing up, and up a lot, call the power company, and tell 
they you have lost your neutral.  very big, and very dangerous problem.  keep 
punching buttons at power company till you get a human.  they should have 
people out within a couple of hours.

the way AC works is it is pushed on one wire and pulled on the other.  each run 
between +/-110 and ground.  if the neutral goes, that is one of the two wires, 
and the circuit is run between one of the power wires, and the ground(water 
pipe)  it is not a great conductor, so the +110 push can get up to 2-300 volts. 
 it kills electrics, and it kills people.

yes, we lost ours.  I got through at 7pm.  pepco showed up at 9 pm with a crew 
of 6-10, 2 backhoes, etc.etc.  they stayed for 3 days, destroyed the front lawn 
and driveway.  they pay for all killed equipment.




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