[CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread Fred Holmes
I have Cox Cable Internet Access in Annandale (VA).  Cox blocks Port 25 usage 
for all smtp servers except Cox itself, so that all outgoing e-mail messages 
from any sender address have to use Cox's smtp server (smtp.east.cox.net).  
They do this, apparently, so they can easily detect spammers on their own 
circuits.

Can anyone tell me whether Verizon FIOS (or DSL) service does this?  (in 
Annandale / northern VA)

Thanks,

Fred Holmes


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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread mike
A quick google and it looks like it's blocked, I'd be surprised if it
wasn't, those big guys don't want anyone running a server on their network.



On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote:

 I have Cox Cable Internet Access in Annandale (VA).  Cox blocks Port 25
 usage for all smtp servers except Cox itself, so that all outgoing e-mail
 messages from any sender address have to use Cox's smtp server (
 smtp.east.cox.net).  They do this, apparently, so they can easily detect
 spammers on their own circuits.

 Can anyone tell me whether Verizon FIOS (or DSL) service does this?  (in
 Annandale / northern VA)

 Thanks,

 Fred Holmes


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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread covici
Nope, they block 80, but not 25, thank goodness.

mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

 A quick google and it looks like it's blocked, I'd be surprised if it
 wasn't, those big guys don't want anyone running a server on their network.
 
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote:
 
  I have Cox Cable Internet Access in Annandale (VA).  Cox blocks Port 25
  usage for all smtp servers except Cox itself, so that all outgoing e-mail
  messages from any sender address have to use Cox's smtp server (
  smtp.east.cox.net).  They do this, apparently, so they can easily detect
  spammers on their own circuits.
 
  Can anyone tell me whether Verizon FIOS (or DSL) service does this?  (in
  Annandale / northern VA)
 
  Thanks,
 
  Fred Holmes
 
 
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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread Fred Holmes
No, I'm not running a mail server.  I need to help someone set up his/her mail 
client for a third party POP/SMTP mail account, and he/she is connected via 
Verizon (dunno if FIOS or DSL, but I presume FIOS).  I'm trying to find out 
what to expect, although a quick test should make it obvious.

I.e., in entering the address for the smtp server, do I enter the address of 
the third-party host of the mail server in question, or do I enter the address 
of Verizon's smtp server?

Thanks,

Fred Holmes

At 01:34 PM 8/17/2009, mike wrote:
Are you running a mail server?


On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

 Nope, they block 80, but not 25, thank goodness.

 mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

  A quick google and it looks like it's blocked, I'd be surprised if it
  wasn't, those big guys don't want anyone running a server on their
 network.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote:
 
   I have Cox Cable Internet Access in Annandale (VA).  Cox blocks Port 25
   usage for all smtp servers except Cox itself, so that all outgoing
 e-mail
   messages from any sender address have to use Cox's smtp server (
   smtp.east.cox.net).  They do this, apparently, so they can easily
 detect
   spammers on their own circuits.
  
   Can anyone tell me whether Verizon FIOS (or DSL) service does this?
  (in
   Annandale / northern VA)
  
   Thanks,
  
   Fred Holmes
  
  
  
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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread covici
Yes, I do run a mail server using Linux.

mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you running a mail server?
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 
  Nope, they block 80, but not 25, thank goodness.
 
  mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   A quick google and it looks like it's blocked, I'd be surprised if it
   wasn't, those big guys don't want anyone running a server on their
  network.
  
  
  
   On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote:
  
I have Cox Cable Internet Access in Annandale (VA).  Cox blocks Port 25
usage for all smtp servers except Cox itself, so that all outgoing
  e-mail
messages from any sender address have to use Cox's smtp server (
smtp.east.cox.net).  They do this, apparently, so they can easily
  detect
spammers on their own circuits.
   
Can anyone tell me whether Verizon FIOS (or DSL) service does this?
   (in
Annandale / northern VA)
   
Thanks,
   
Fred Holmes
   
   
   
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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread katan
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:13:29 -0700, mike wrote:

A quick google and it looks like it's blocked, I'd be surprised if it
wasn't, those big guys don't want anyone running a server on their network.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote:

 I have Cox Cable Internet Access in Annandale (VA).  Cox blocks Port 25
 usage for all smtp servers except Cox itself, so that all outgoing e-mail
 messages from any sender address have to use Cox's smtp server (
 smtp.east.cox.net).  They do this, apparently, so they can easily detect
 spammers on their own circuits.

Assuming that you want to use your his.com address, I've got mine set
to use port 587. Going through Comcast and it works fine. Rather than
fight Cox, maybe changing the port will do you. Again, assuming you
want to send through his.com

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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread Jordan

Fred Holmes wrote:

No, I'm not running a mail server.  I need to help someone set up his/her mail 
client for a third party POP/SMTP mail account, and he/she is connected via 
Verizon (dunno if FIOS or DSL, but I presume FIOS).  I'm trying to find out 
what to expect, although a quick test should make it obvious.

I.e., in entering the address for the smtp server, do I enter the address of 
the third-party host of the mail server in question, or do I enter the address 
of Verizon's smtp server?
  
As you say, a few quick tests will show you. I have Comcast service and 
use smtp.gmail.com and port 587.



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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 17, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:
Can anyone tell me whether Verizon FIOS (or DSL) service does  
this?  (in Annandale / northern VA)


I use port 25 on Verizon DSL and do not use their SMTP server. It is  
not blocked.

With some other ISPs I use port 26 or 587.




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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread b_s-wilk

Port 25 is often blocked for security reasons.

For SMTP, we've been using port 465 SSL for smtp.correo.yahoo.es, port
465 TLS for smtp.gmail.com, port 587 TLS for outgoing.verizon.net. I can
send from any of my email accounts through all three, but the gmail SMTP
server renames the sender with my gmail address, the others don't.

Examples:
* I send an email with a Yahoo! address using the Verizon SMTP, no
problems.
* I send a message with a Verizon email address using Yahoo! SMTP, no
problems.
* I send a message with a Verizon email address using GMail SMTP and it
arrives with a GMail address instead of Verizon.

Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon smtp and Port 25

2009-08-17 Thread Fred Holmes
Thanks.  I've been doing that for several years now, since before I got Cox HSI 
access.  I'm just trying to figure out what to expect when setting up someone 
else who subscribes through Verizon.

Fred Holmes

At 02:23 PM 8/17/2009, katan wrote:
Assuming that you want to use your his.com address, I've got mine set
to use port 587. Going through Comcast and it works fine. Rather than
fight Cox, maybe changing the port will do you. Again, assuming you
want to send through his.com

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