Re: [CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-27 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 26, 2009, at 10:05 PM, Tony B wrote:

WTF are you talking about? Compressed data isn't any harder to recover
than non-compressed; just the opposite, since it resides in a smaller
area and often contains recovery info.


You are dangerous.


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Re: [CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-27 Thread Tony B
Yes, but not completely ignorant, as some can lay claim to.


On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:44 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
 On Dec 26, 2009, at 10:05 PM, Tony B wrote:

 WTF are you talking about? Compressed data isn't any harder to recover
 than non-compressed; just the opposite, since it resides in a smaller
 area and often contains recovery info.

 You are dangerous.


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[CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-26 Thread Tony B
We're really beginning to stray here with all this talk of rare BIOS
and boot sector viruses. And now a question about backups.

Disk imaging is the way to go, with some level of compression to save
space. Ghost, Acronis, and many freeware apps will do this. They all
have basic Windows PE cds that will boot enough of an OS to reinstall
the images (Windows Preinstallation Environment). Some of these are
further based around BartPE (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/).

Anyway, probably the most important thing about system backups is that
you keep your C (system) drive backed up daily, preferably without
intervention. Make it a smaller partition than the others so you can
just image it to a second physical drive. Do full monthly images also,
and swap at least two backup drives so that one is off-premises at all
times.


 What is the best generic recovery utility boot device and program these 
 days??


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Re: [CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-26 Thread tjpa

On Dec 26, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Tony B wrote:

Disk imaging is the way to go, with some level of compression to save
space.


Backups should never be compressed. You can find yourself locked out  
of your data.


Disk imaging is a possibility, but I prefer to focus on protecting the  
data. If you image the drive you can find you have two identical non- 
functioning drives. Or you may find that you have to switch to  
different hardware and the image won't run there.


I find it is best to have a system that can be quickly installed on  
any hardware I have available (so installing Windows is out of the  
question). Then copy over the data and go online.



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Re: [CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-26 Thread mike
So you are installing linux then?

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 I find it is best to have a system that can be quickly installed on any
 hardware I have available (so installing Windows is out of the question).
 Then copy over the data and go online.



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Re: [CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-26 Thread tjpa

On Dec 26, 2009, at 1:46 PM, mike wrote:

So you are installing linux then?


BSD UNIX.


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Re: [CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-26 Thread mike
Awesome, it will install on more systems than if you just used os x at
least.

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:38 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Dec 26, 2009, at 1:46 PM, mike wrote:

 So you are installing linux then?


 BSD UNIX.



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Re: [CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-26 Thread db
If my machine had the symptoms this one has, I would do the works: 


BIOS flash  turn on BIOS virus protection,
Boot sector cleaning,
partitions removal/ format,
Free Zone Alarm firewall w. ask turned on

...all done while keeping the machine off the net.

... and the presently existing data would worry me to no end...

db

Tony B wrote:

We're really beginning to stray here with all this talk of rare BIOS
and boot sector viruses. And now a question about backups.

Disk imaging is the way to go, with some level of compression to save
space. Ghost, Acronis, and many freeware apps will do this. They all
have basic Windows PE cds that will boot enough of an OS to reinstall
the images (Windows Preinstallation Environment). Some of these are
further based around BartPE (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/).

Anyway, probably the most important thing about system backups is that
you keep your C (system) drive backed up daily, preferably without
intervention. Make it a smaller partition than the others so you can
just image it to a second physical drive. Do full monthly images also,
and swap at least two backup drives so that one is off-premises at all
times.


  

What is the best generic recovery utility boot device and program these days??




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Re: [CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-26 Thread tjpa

On Dec 26, 2009, at 4:26 PM, db wrote:

If my machine had the symptoms this one has, I would do the works:
BIOS flash  turn on BIOS virus protection,


Since the machine is new enough to be returnable I would skip the  
tough stuff.


Keep the computer disconnected from the LAN and WiFi off. Use the  
Ultimate Boot Disk to delete all the partitions on the hard drive.  
Then install the OS. At that point you should be able to tell if the  
computer is clean. Then proceed step by step and check the machine at  
each step. If suddenly you find yourself polluted you'll know what  
step caused it.



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Re: [CGUYS] recovery boot device

2009-12-26 Thread Tony B
WTF are you talking about? Compressed data isn't any harder to recover
than non-compressed; just the opposite, since it resides in a smaller
area and often contains recovery info.

As for your system that can be quickly installed on any hardware I
have available, I have no idea what you're talking about. You
certainly can't install a Mac OS on any hardware. Please elaborate.


On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 1:27 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
 On Dec 26, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Tony B wrote:

 Disk imaging is the way to go, with some level of compression to save
 space.

 Backups should never be compressed. You can find yourself locked out of your
 data.

 Disk imaging is a possibility, but I prefer to focus on protecting the data.
 If you image the drive you can find you have two identical non-functioning
 drives. Or you may find that you have to switch to different hardware and
 the image won't run there.

 I find it is best to have a system that can be quickly installed on any
 hardware I have available (so installing Windows is out of the question).
 Then copy over the data and go online.


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