Re: [CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto
I tried iPhoto and think it's awful. All the pictures always seem to remain in the library even after they are categorized. I do edit some of the pictures, cropping and resizing (make some for web shots, some for thumbnails for bigger links - sort of like story boards, etc. for how I think) I find that keeping links to all of the pictures in the main library as well as any category to be a bit distracting. IPhoto has a pecular mind set because it was designed for a user that knows nothing about computers. Apple tried to make it idiot proof, but the consequence for someone who expects a computer to act like a computer is a tough adjustment. Foremost, iPhoto is designed so that the you can always return to your original photo. Non-destructive editing. Tough for those of us who cut out teeth on destructive computing. DEL *.* and all that. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto
Ed Whipple iTunes (I think), Picasa2, Adobe Lightroom, and whatever ships with Vista all manage your images and allow limited global editing. They do not change the underlying image files instead they maintain a record of the edits in a separate data base so they can be undone anytime. At work on a managed computer, I use MS Photo Manager. It's okay, definitely not great. I usually create smaller versions of larger (300k+ jpg's), save the picture with a _small at the end of the filename before the extension and then reverse the changes so that there aren't any changes. I typically want to keep both the original and modified images for different uses at the same time. Adobe Bridge (Photoshop, Elements 4 for Mac) and Organizer (Elements 5) don't provide any image editing capability. In addition to Adobe and Google, you might check out the photoshop_elements list on Yahoo. They argue incessantly about Organizer; some love it, some (like me) hate it. Thanks for the capsule summary. I have another account on yahoo mail where I am _way_ behind. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly ROTFL: Rats on Thorazine Feel Lazy * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto
I tried iPhoto and think it's awful. All the pictures always seem to remain in the library even after they are categorized. I do edit some of the pictures, cropping and resizing (make some for web shots, some for thumbnails for bigger links - sort of like story boards, etc. for how I think) I find that keeping links to all of the pictures in the main library as well as any category to be a bit distracting. Is there something out there that is better? I've heard about Photo Shop Elements. I'm pretty sure I have no need for full Photo Shop, maybe if I actually start getting serious with a camera, but not right now. I've also heard of Aperture. Sweetie also wants to start fooling around with digital photography using her camera(s). Is the Windows version of PS Elements comparable to the Mac version? Could we help each other out? -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto
The current Mac version of Photopshop Elements is Version 4. It includes Adobe Bridge, my favorite image management program. Bridge also comes with the PC version of Photoshop CS2 and later. The PC Version of Elements is Version 5 and includes a function called the Organizer that I won't even mention in my Elements class. It does not notice any changes in your image masnagement that may have happened outside of Organizer. For the Mac, I suggest Elements 4 with Bridge. For the PC, you might want to check out Picasa2 from Google. It's free. Check www.adobe.com to see what they have in the way of trial versions. And remember, Photoshop doesn't cost any more than a Walmart-grade deer rifle or a Bernini sewing machine. Ed -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wayne Dernoncourt Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:03 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto I tried iPhoto and think it's awful. All the pictures always seem to remain in the library even after they are categorized. I do edit some of the pictures, cropping and resizing (make some for web shots, some for thumbnails for bigger links - sort of like story boards, etc. for how I think) snip * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto
Ed Whipple The current Mac version of Photopshop Elements is Version 4. It includes Adobe Bridge, my favorite image management program. Bridge also comes with the PC version of Photoshop CS2 and later. The PC Version of Elements is Version 5 and includes a function called the Organizer that I won't even mention in my Elements class. It does not notice any changes in your image masnagement that may have happened outside of Organizer. For the Mac, I suggest Elements 4 with Bridge. For the PC, you might want to check out Picasa2 from Google. It's free. I forgot all about Picassa! I used that on a Linux laptop. I thought that was terrific when compared to iPhoto. That behaved the way I wanted iPhoto to work. Check www.adobe.com to see what they have in the way of trial versions. And remember, Photoshop doesn't cost any more than a Walmart-grade deer rifle or a Bernini sewing machine. I don't much use for either of those. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Very good, Einstein - but next time show your work * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto
I've been using GraphicConverter for many years (since OS9 days) to mess with pictures. It seems to me to be very powerful and I like the way it works. http://www.lemkesoft.com/ I think they've done a great job with the software and they are very responsive if you ever have a problem. You can try it for free and pay for it if you think it's worth it. I did. I also don't like the way iPhoto works. It's like iTunes in that everything is in the library. But I guess that way of thinking is the future to some. Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: I tried iPhoto and think it's awful. All the pictures always seem to remain in the library even after they are categorized. I do edit some of the pictures, cropping and resizing (make some for web shots, some for thumbnails for bigger links - sort of like story boards, etc. for how I think) I find that keeping links to all of the pictures in the main library as well as any category to be a bit distracting. Is there something out there that is better? I've heard about Photo Shop Elements. I'm pretty sure I have no need for full Photo Shop, maybe if I actually start getting serious with a camera, but not right now. I've also heard of Aperture. Sweetie also wants to start fooling around with digital photography using her camera(s). Is the Windows version of PS Elements comparable to the Mac version? Could we help each other out? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
