Re: [CGUYS] ridda aol yeecch!
The Mozilla product that includes the email client is Seamonkey. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ But most Mozilla users use Firefox and Thunderbird. RLeeSimon wrote: Then wat? I need also to change her browser ...she's got win2k and it doesn't allow upgrade to ie7 so wassabest? Firefox,mozilla,opera(which has an email client in it)? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ridda aol yeecch!
But she's already got it and otherwise is not interested in $$$ for something else...the opera client is a little clunky but cud doo...eh? So you are a Redmund dead-ender? Outlook costs $$$. The better alternatives are free, either advertising supported or open source. Yet you describe them as $$$ and you cling to MS's buggy behemoth from the last century. There is also the $$$ of having to maintain Outlook's quaint and fragile database. MS puts everything in one humongous file that needs to be regularly verified and compressed. Hit a serious glitch and lose absolutely everything. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ridda aol yeecch!
You obviously haven't used Outlook this century. Outlook 2007 is very stable and non-buggy and my users are bugging me (no pun) to get it. Everyone that has been upgraded from Office 2003 loves the new version of Office. Unlike previous versions of Office, it actually is worth buying. I won't be using Outlook in any century. We were hoping that Office 2008 would clean up its act (at least on the Mac) because the monolithic database (PST) file is such a bone-headed idea and so obviously doesn't play well with various OS X system services -- but nope. MS is the only vendor I know of that is still clinging to this stupid monolithic database design. As to yours not failing yet I can only say Thank you for smoking. Some things are just so stupid that they should not be tolerated. Saying I'm not dead yet is not a valid defense. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ridda aol yeecch!
So what's better that also will sync with pda and palm and fone? -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: Re: ridda aol yeecch! You obviously haven't used Outlook this century. Outlook 2007 is very stable and non-buggy and my users are bugging me (no pun) to get it. Everyone that has been upgraded from Office 2003 loves the new version of Office. Unlike previous versions of Office, it actually is worth buying. I won't be using Outlook in any century. We were hoping that Office 2008 would clean up its act (at least on the Mac) because the monolithic database (PST) file is such a bone-headed idea and so obviously doesn't play well with various OS X system services -- but nope. MS is the only vendor I know of that is still clinging to this stupid monolithic database design. As to yours not failing yet I can only say Thank you for smoking. Some things are just so stupid that they should not be tolerated. Saying I'm not dead yet is not a valid defense. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ridda aol yeecch!
what shuddi tell her now? First tell her to not use Outlook. Moving from AOL to Outlook is just moving from one big bugfest to another big bugfest. Outlook offers nothing uniquely useful for a home user. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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First tell her to not use Outlook. Nonresponsive. The question was, how do I?. Outlook offers nothing uniquely useful for a home user. That's true, unless you count email, calendar/appointments/reminders, contacts, fax, mailing lists, tasks/to-do lists, RSS, and notes. My wife's life would grind to a halt without Outlook (I reference her because she's a home user--my own situation would be even worse). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ridda aol yeecch!
Sometimes the _correct_ answer isn't a _direct_ answer. Or the answer you want to hear. Minus the faxes (which is probably much easier to do with a fax machine), all these things can be done in any modern AJAX web mail client like Yahoo, Gmail, or AOL. Actually, I think they can all _send_ faxes too, but I don't know how, as it's way too much trouble for me to scan documents to fax them via the computer. At least two big advantages to this method: These things are available from multiple machines at multiple locations, and you don't have to worry about backup or all this painful configurating you're looking at. Perhaps you can think of a disadvantage? On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First tell her to not use Outlook. Nonresponsive. The question was, how do I?. Outlook offers nothing uniquely useful for a home user. That's true, unless you count email, calendar/appointments/reminders, contacts, fax, mailing lists, tasks/to-do lists, RSS, and notes. My wife's life would grind to a halt without Outlook (I reference her because she's a home user--my own situation would be even worse). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Then wat? I need also to change her browser ...she's got win2k and it doesn't allow upgrade to ie7 so wassabest? Firefox,mozilla,opera(which has an email client in it)? -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: Re: ridda aol yeecch! what shuddi tell her now? First tell her to not use Outlook. Moving from AOL to Outlook is just moving from one big bugfest to another big bugfest. Outlook offers nothing uniquely useful for a home user. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yeah but she already has a lotta emails stored in her file cabinet in aol and wants to keep them...somewhere. She can keep the aol email addresses, but has already started a gmail account which works for her. -Original Message- From: Tony B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Re: ridda aol yeecch! Right. If I recall correctly, AOL no longer charges for email accounts, so she can continue to use the AOL web interface which she's likely used to. On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what shuddi tell her now? First tell her to not use Outlook. Moving from AOL to Outlook is just moving from one big bugfest to another big bugfest. Outlook offers nothing uniquely useful for a home user. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Nonresponsive. The question was, how do I?. Who's really being Nonresponsive? If you were doing this to yourself that would be another matter. We might laugh at your quaint ideas, but since you were only hurting yourself we would let you go ahead. We might even help you do it as a source of wicked amusement. But you are looking to foist off Outlook on somebody else. That is a terrible thing to do. Your recommending Outlook is nonresponsive to your sister's needs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yeah but she already has a lotta emails stored in her file cabinet in aol and wants to keep them...somewhere. She can keep the aol email addresses, but has already started a gmail account which works for her. X will fetch email (old and new) from Y. It does contacts too. Substitute AOL Yahoo! and GMail for X and Y as appropriate. The idea that A can't go to B is old MS strategy intended to keep its customers in their pens. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I need also to change her browser ...she's got win2k and it doesn't allow upgrade to ie7 so wassabest? Firefox,mozilla,opera(which has an email client in it)? The current version of FireFox (v 3) works fine with Win2K. You may have gotten ridda of AOL, but you still have that Microsoft monkey on your back. Yeecch! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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address book to outlook. http://blog.kevindonahue.com/archives/2004/03/12/convert_aol_address_book_to_outlook/ this should help moving email to outlook. http://email.about.com/od/outlooktips/qt/et122204.htm Mike On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:31 PM, RLeeSimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my sister has aol she used to get verizon dsl ...now she got fios from verizon directly... 1.how to move all the accumulated email messages to outlook 2.how to export address book to outlook 3.how to get ridda that aol for good these are what I would like to help her do...years ago (too many to remember) I had aol on a laptop and when I went to get ridda it there was a night of misery and also a software item that made it easy and for free... what shuddi tell her now? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ridda aol yeecch!
Nonresponsive. The question was, how do I?. Who's really being Nonresponsive? If you were doing this to yourself that would be another matter. We might laugh at your quaint ideas, but since you were only hurting yourself we would let you go ahead. We might even help you do it as a source of wicked amusement. But you are looking to foist off Outlook on somebody else. That is a terrible thing to do. Not really. The question was How do I move the AOL mail to Outlook. Period. Your response was, Outlook sux. If you had other options to suggest, fine--make them. You didn't. The response has zero value. It did not help the questioner in any way. That's my point. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Not really. The question was How do I move the AOL mail to Outlook. Period. Your response was, Outlook sux. If you had other options to suggest, fine--make them. You didn't. The response has zero value. It did not help the questioner in any way. That's my point. Friends don't let friends drive drunk, no matter how much they want to. So when your drunk friend can't find their keys you help find them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Don't fight boys...I just wanna helpout my sis... -Original Message- From: Chris Dunford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 5:57 PM Subject: Re: ridda aol yeecch! Nonresponsive. The question was, how do I?. Who's really being Nonresponsive? If you were doing this to yourself that would be another matter. We might laugh at your quaint ideas, but since you were only hurting yourself we would let you go ahead. We might even help you do it as a source of wicked amusement. But you are looking to foist off Outlook on somebody else. That is a terrible thing to do. Not really. The question was How do I move the AOL mail to Outlook. Period. Your response was, Outlook sux. If you had other options to suggest, fine--make them. You didn't. The response has zero value. It did not help the questioner in any way. That's my point. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Install them all and see which you like. Chevy? Ford? Pontiac? Toyota? Ferrari? Depends Mainly on whether she likes to see all the controls that can be tweaked, or likes to keep them hidden and accept default behavior. At 03:51 PM 11/16/2008, RLeeSimon wrote: I need also to change her browser ...she's got win2k and it doesn't allow upgrade to ie7 so wassabest? Firefox,mozilla,opera(which has an email client in it)? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ridda aol yeecch!
I have an AIM account that I got a few years ago. AOL gave free POP/IMAP email accounts to AIM users. Her AOL account probably also has POP/IMAP access. Try this setup: Incoming mail server: * imap.aol.com or imap.aim.com for IMAP * pop.aol.com or pop.aim.com for POP Outgoing mail (SMTP) server: * smtp.aol.com or smtp.aim.com, port: 587. Then download all of your email. http://help.aol.com/help/product/email/. When you view the accessible version of online email, you can print your contacts list from a pop-up window. Instead of printing the list, you can save it as a text file. In AOL Help, I see how to import an address book, but not how to export. Saving the list as text may be the closest you can get. Or you can search for more at AOL Help. Don't use Outlook. Try Thunderbird or Eudora. Yeah but she already has a lotta emails stored in her file cabinet in aol and wants to keep them...somewhere. She can keep the aol email addresses, but has already started a gmail account which works for her. -Original Message- From: Tony B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Re: ridda aol yeecch! Right. If I recall correctly, AOL no longer charges for email accounts, so she can continue to use the AOL web interface which she's likely used to. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] ridda aol yeecch!
my sister has aol she used to get verizon dsl ...now she got fios from verizon directly... 1.how to move all the accumulated email messages to outlook 2.how to export address book to outlook 3.how to get ridda that aol for good these are what I would like to help her do...years ago (too many to remember) I had aol on a laptop and when I went to get ridda it there was a night of misery and also a software item that made it easy and for free... what shuddi tell her now? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
