Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that clears things up! Steve As the result of which, Mozilla said, Everybody switch to Bing. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142106/Mozilla_exec_suggests_Firefox_users_move_to_Bing_cites_Google_privacy_stance http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/12/if_you_have_nothing.html And Microsoft just didn't tell you that they would collect the same information without the same warning. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Schmidt admitted nothing that all of us didn't already know. We've all been sitting around drinking tea pretending that gorilla wasn't there...the gorilla that means you have no privacy. Eric was just bold enough to point it out. So, way is Google compiling and storing and aggregating all that personal data? Why is Google spending what is probably a hefty amount of money to do all of that? CEO Schmidt says it is because of the Patriot Act. Is there some requirement in the Patriot Act that necessitates the collection of personal data on customers and the keeping of that data for some specified period of time just in the event that a portion of it may needed by authorities? Or, is it more likely that Google really collects this data to be provided to other businesses as a revenue stream? I just don't see Google spending their time and money in order to retain data on behalf of law enforcement unless they are essentially a division of law enforcement or see themselves as such and thus act accordingly. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that clears things up! Steve As the result of which, Mozilla said, Everybody switch to Bing. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142106/Mozilla_exec_suggests_Firefox_users_move_to_Bing_cites_Google_privacy_stance http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/12/if_you_have_nothing.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The other day, on CNN... Correcting myself here. It was not CNN, but rather CNBC. However, I am sure that by this time, the story has also been covered by CNN. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
On Dec 11, 2009, at 6:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that clears things up! It certainly does. Very consistent with a company motto of Don't do evil. Definitely incomprehensible to that portion of the population that is morally handicapped. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
Same logic as 'just let us search you without a warrant because you claim to have nothing to hide.' On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:54 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 11, 2009, at 6:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that clears things up! It certainly does. Very consistent with a company motto of Don't do evil. Definitely incomprehensible to that portion of the population that is morally handicapped. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:06 AM, mike wrote: Same logic as 'just let us search you without a warrant because you claim to have nothing to hide.' I did say it would be definitely incomprehensible to some. QED * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that clears things up! It certainly does. Very consistent with a company motto of Don't do evil. Definitely incomprehensible to that portion of the population that is morally handicapped. You could switch from Google to Bing. Remember Always trust Microsoft and their systems that call the mothership to report on you? “You Have Zero Privacy Anyway. Get Over It” - Sun Microsystems (JAVA) chairman, president and CEO, Scott McNealy. http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/01/17538 For those who weren't paying attention then, and use social networks and searches, it hasn't changed. Do you allow your social security number to be used by vendors, doctors, banks? Do you use the same email address for everything? Do you have a Facebook, etc. page and lots of 'friends' there? You still have no privacy [and it's probably your fault]. Get over it. It's like living in a worldwide small town! Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
This announcement is like when Conyers was asked about reading bills and he actually laughed at the question...read them? What do you mean *read*them?? lol Eric Schmidt admitted nothing that all of us didn't already know. We've all been sitting around drinking tea pretending that gorilla wasn't there...the gorilla that means you have no privacy. Eric was just bold enough to point it out. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:52 PM, betty b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: The other day, on CNN, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said this about the expectation of privacy for users of Google: If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I guess that clears things up! It certainly does. Very consistent with a company motto of Don't do evil. Definitely incomprehensible to that portion of the population that is morally handicapped. You could switch from Google to Bing. Remember Always trust Microsoft and their systems that call the mothership to report on you? “You Have Zero Privacy Anyway. Get Over It” - Sun Microsystems (JAVA) chairman, president and CEO, Scott McNealy. http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/01/17538 For those who weren't paying attention then, and use social networks and searches, it hasn't changed. Do you allow your social security number to be used by vendors, doctors, banks? Do you use the same email address for everything? Do you have a Facebook, etc. page and lots of 'friends' there? You still have no privacy [and it's probably your fault]. Get over it. It's like living in a worldwide small town! Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google exec dismisses concept of privacy
On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:52 PM, betty wrote: You still have no privacy [and it's probably your fault]. Get over it. It's like living in a worldwide small town! We always knew that our backwoods droids did not really relish living there in the outback. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
