Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread Jeff Miles
	Didn't you know, Oprah has long been a member of the NSA. Most of her  
shows were a guise for tracking persons.
	You get a free car! And you get a free car! Who doesn't think these  
cars weren't equipped with state of the art GPS as well as having  
every serial number under the sun that was included with these mobil  
tracking devices cataloged and constantly upgraded and tracked?
	There is a rumor that Oprah is pure evil, and that quite a few of the  
guests of her talk show have gone missing. Also rumors abound about an  
underground studio somewhere in the deserts of New Mexico. Prisons and  
underground testing all in one with the cover of a popular talk show  
host.



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On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:54 AM, tjpa wrote:


On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:36 AM, mike wrote:

Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?


What did Oprah do? I don't believe it. References please? And no  
links to Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush. Fox, Moonies, or the WSJ  
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread Jeff Miles
	Oh give me a break. You find this credible? Check into the group  
first. I could more then likely post  Rush junk more worthy of looking  
at then this.



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On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:07 AM, mike wrote:


Don't believe what?

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush

It's not about 'believing' it's about not being close minded.  Bush  
and
Obama are more alike than anyone on either side care to admit.  All  
O has

done is remove the brake pedal completely.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:


On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:36 AM, mike wrote:


Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?



What did Oprah do? I don't believe it. References please? And no  
links to

Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush. Fox, Moonies, or the WSJ please.



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he
does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad..

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote:

Oh give me a break. You find this credible? Check into the group
 first. I could more then likely post  Rush junk more worthy of looking at
 then this.



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 On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:07 AM, mike wrote:

  Don't believe what?

 http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush

 It's not about 'believing' it's about not being close minded.  Bush and
 Obama are more alike than anyone on either side care to admit.  All O has
 done is remove the brake pedal completely.

 On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

  On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:36 AM, mike wrote:

  Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?


 What did Oprah do? I don't believe it. References please? And no links to
 Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush. Fox, Moonies, or the WSJ please.



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he
 does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad..

 The problem is Obama got stuck with a bunch of bad Bush policy and has to
figure out how to unravel the mess without leaving things for the worst.  I
don't think there was much of a choice in Afaganistan we broke it, we
ignored it, we should put it on the path to correcting it.
-- 
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS Afghan regional politics

2009-12-11 Thread db
Although I completely agree with the initial analysis, and would like 
that the latter part could be true, that deduction is totally divorced 
from any possible reality in my opinion. 

What is it we are trying to ... hoping to correct?  How does one correct 
Afghanistan?  What does correcting Afghanistan mean?... and how do we 
know when we have done it? 
Do you mean make it like the US?  

One of the most socially, economically and governmentally backward 
nations on the planet?
Force it thru the changes in years or decades that our western cultures 
took 800 years to accomplish?  How does one do that?  Anybody got a 
machine or mechanism that does that?


It's a loose federation of feudal tribes in one of the bleakest and 
least nurturing landscapes in the world.


And it begs the elephant in the room question ... that few in America 
seem to see why would we want to do it and how did we get in this 
position?


Why have the Russians and Americans been fighting in such a bleak and 
unlucky place in actuality or in proxy for decades now?


Why did Osama get so riled up that they attacked the WTC?

Why would they pick the World Trade Center?   World  Trade  
Center  ?


Could it just possibly have anything to do that the area to the east has 
the richest remaining oil and gas deposits on the planet and Afghanistan 
offers the only possible pipeline route to the west from that region 
that is not already controlled by the Russians or the Iranians?


You think it is a coincidence that Turkmenistan immediately to the north 
has arguably the largest natural gas reserves on the planet... worth 
more than all the oil in Iraq?


(See: http://members.localnet.com/~jeflan/jfafghanpipe.htm )

It's a no brainer that if the citizens of the area wanted us there ... 
or the Russians before us... they wouldn't be attacking us and fighting us.


What is it that Osama and Al Quaeda has been stating as there reasons 
for opposing us / attacking us?


Isn't it? ...go home ... get your troops out of our lands... ?

How we going to correct that ... kill them all?  Make a jail out of 
citizens of the whole region?


How would we feel if foreign troops were in our country to ensure 
foreign control over resources and opportunity that belong to us?


We are spending 50 billion a year in Afghanistan fighting along with the 
lives of countless Americans and inhabitants.  For what? So we can have 
an economic advantageous access to the oil and gas?


Couldn't we much more cheaply just buy the gas and oil than spend 50 
billion a year in an manipulative and force full effort that is very 
likely not even going to work?


Seems like a no brainer no?

Why aren't we doing the no brainer thing of just buying the oil and gas 
instead of spending 50 billion and many lives to militarily/politically 
control the region?


Could it have anything to do with the fact that the potential resource 
advantage / the economic profit would go to the oil, gas and production 
corporations and their spreadsheet bottom line while the expense in $ 
and lives is born by the US taxpayer.


Is it possible that inexplicable cost and profit imbalance is why the 
oil and gas lobby spends so much on US congressional and presidential 
elections?


How DID we get into all of this and why are we still in it? 


How does one really fix / correct all this?

Questions, Questions ...

db







is the latter part is the John Duncan Yoyo wrote:

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

  

Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he
does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad..

The problem is Obama got stuck with a bunch of bad Bush policy and has to


figure out how to unravel the mess without leaving things for the worst.  I
don't think there was much of a choice in Afaganistan we broke it, we
ignored it, we should put it on the path to correcting it.
  



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread tjpa

On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:38 AM, mike wrote:
Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then  
when he

does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad..


HEY! Change the subject line and add an OT tag please!


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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread Steve at Verizon
Every new president inherits policies with which he disagrees, 
especially when it is a party change. W complained about inheriting a 
recession which started in the latter year of the Clinton admin. W also 
inherited a national security structure which was inadequate to prevent 
9/1, but didn't whine about it.


Obama has been gungho about the war in Afghanistan since 2003 or 4. 
Remember, it was the good war and Iraq the bad. (As an aside, it is 
humorous that he has embraced the Bush surge doctrine). At this late 
date in his 11 months in office, it is getting a bit tiresome to hear 
every Obama speech start with Bush bashing. He should man up and deal 
with the state of the world and country as it is now and how he will 
remedy it. Enough with the excuses and whining!


John Duncan Yoyo wrote:

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

  

Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he
does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad..

The problem is Obama got stuck with a bunch of bad Bush policy and has to


figure out how to unravel the mess without leaving things for the worst.  I
don't think there was much of a choice in Afaganistan we broke it, we
ignored it, we should put it on the path to correcting it.
  




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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-11 Thread mike
Do it yourself since you changed it...please!

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:38 AM, mike wrote:

 Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he
 does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad..


 HEY! Change the subject line and add an OT tag please!



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread Fred Holmes
Who would you rather have tracking every IP address you visit?  OpenDNS?  
Google?

There are no secrets in your Internet activity (without using some serious 
anonymity techniques, that most people won't or can't).

When I first read the subject line, I was hoping that free modified Google 
as in Google doesn't have its hooks into this.  Google is a Democrat conspiracy 
to track everything anyone does on the Net.

Fred Holmes

At 12:01 AM 12/5/2009, Tony B wrote:
I've used OpenDNS for so long I almost missed this. But Google now
offers a free DNS that's much easier to remember (8.8.8.8., 8.8.4.4)!
http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

Quick - somebody else try it first!


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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Tony B wrote:

I've used OpenDNS for so long I almost missed this. But Google now
offers a free DNS that's much easier to remember (8.8.8.8., 8.8.4.4)!


DynDNS started offering this recently too.

I tried and stopped using DynDNS because I thought they were too  
aggressive about blocking sites. Websites would display with holes  
where there should have been ads.


It will be interesting to see what kind of a useful twist Google will  
add to premium DNS service.



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Fred Holmes wrote:
When I first read the subject line, I was hoping that free  
modified Google as in Google doesn't have its hooks into this.   
Google is a Democrat conspiracy to track everything anyone does on  
the Net.


Where were all these far-right paranoiac conspiracy theories when the  
Bushies were building their vast infrastructure to track everything  
anyone did on the Net? Now that smarter minds are in charge who  
realize that this was a waste of time and money we have all these  
conspiracies coming out of the woodwork. Very strange. Did Sarah Palin  
tell you that your Internet searches were being used to build a death- 
panel dossier about you?



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread mike
Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?  You whined about Bush and
in your hypocrisy that's stopped as soon as your guy took over.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:19 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Fred Holmes wrote:

 When I first read the subject line, I was hoping that free modified
 Google as in Google doesn't have its hooks into this.  Google is a
 Democrat conspiracy to track everything anyone does on the Net.


 Where were all these far-right paranoiac conspiracy theories when the
 Bushies were building their vast infrastructure to track everything anyone
 did on the Net? Now that smarter minds are in charge who realize that this
 was a waste of time and money we have all these conspiracies coming out of
 the woodwork. Very strange. Did Sarah Palin tell you that your Internet
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:36 AM, mike wrote:

Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?


What did Oprah do? I don't believe it. References please? And no links  
to Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush. Fox, Moonies, or the WSJ please.



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:36 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?  You whined about Bush
 and
 in your hypocrisy that's stopped as soon as your guy took over.

 Is it any coincidence that Oprah announces she is quitting after she
interviews another infamous quitter Sarah Palin?  I think not.
-- 
John Duncan Yoyo
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread mike
Don't believe what?

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush

It's not about 'believing' it's about not being close minded.  Bush and
Obama are more alike than anyone on either side care to admit.  All O has
done is remove the brake pedal completely.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:36 AM, mike wrote:

 Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?


 What did Oprah do? I don't believe it. References please? And no links to
 Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush. Fox, Moonies, or the WSJ please.



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, mike wrote:

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush


If this case was being tried in April then it would have been  
defending actions of the previous administration and probably being  
defended by a legal team assembled by the previous administration.


How about some recent news? Not letting BHO's social secretary testify  
to Congress does not count.


How about...
• November 05, 2009 Two Battles Won: PATRIOT Reform AND State Secrets  
Reform Bills Pass House Committee

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/battle-won-not-war-patriot-reform-bill-passes-out-


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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread mike
This boys and girls is what is called a 'hypocrite'.  To note, yes they were
defending the previous admins actions, with newly appointed lawyers for the
new admin.  Using the same argument.  But to Tom this is ok because O has a
big D after his name therefore the exact same actions are 'good' that are
'evil' under anyone with an 'R' next to their name.  This is also known as
being 'intellectually dishonest', say it with me...

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, mike wrote:

 http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush


 If this case was being tried in April then it would have been defending
 actions of the previous administration and probably being defended by a
 legal team assembled by the previous administration.

 How about some recent news? Not letting BHO's social secretary testify to
 Congress does not count.

 How about...
 • November 05, 2009 Two Battles Won: PATRIOT Reform AND State Secrets
 Reform Bills Pass House Committee

 http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/battle-won-not-war-patriot-reform-bill-passes-out-



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread Fred Holmes
That's implied in the powers enumerated in the health care bill.  They wouldn't 
be explicit about it.

At 11:19 AM 12/5/2009, tjpa wrote:
Where were all these far-right paranoiac conspiracy theories when the  
Bushies were building their vast infrastructure to track everything  
anyone did on the Net? Now that smarter minds are in charge who  
realize that this was a waste of time and money we have all these  
conspiracies coming out of the woodwork. Very strange. Did Sarah Palin  
tell you that your Internet searches were being used to build a death- 
panel dossier about you?


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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread John DeCarlo
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote:

 Who would you rather have tracking every IP address you visit?  OpenDNS?
  Google?

 Certainly not your ISP, they are much lower on anyone's list.


 When I first read the subject line, I was hoping that free modified
 Google as in Google doesn't have its hooks into this.  Google is a
 Democrat conspiracy to track everything anyone does on the Net.


Fred, good one.  I laughed pretty hard about this.  As if there could ever
be a Democratic conspiracy about *anything* - first they would have to work
together on something.

Remember, you can always ask the ISPs, since they already provide all kinds
of things to government and business.

-- 
John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own


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