Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
At 01:47 AM 6/16/2010, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Let's all try to be sarcastic as much as is possible, particularly when folks pose questions. Aren't questions supposed to be a primary reason for having the Computer Guy's List? If so, then why hand out s*** for doing exactly that? Do you wanna try to deep six the entire list, or just some of the folks on it? We already have too much sarcasm. Don't need more. Steve I think the answering of technical questions has gone by the wayside. A couple of recent questions I've posted have not generated a single reply, let alone an answer. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
I don't see em, they might have not gotten through if you got NO reply. I know we often go off track on the list, but I've rarely seen people ignored and I don't think it was ever done purposely. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote: At 01:47 AM 6/16/2010, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Let's all try to be sarcastic as much as is possible, particularly when folks pose questions. Aren't questions supposed to be a primary reason for having the Computer Guy's List? If so, then why hand out s*** for doing exactly that? Do you wanna try to deep six the entire list, or just some of the folks on it? We already have too much sarcasm. Don't need more. Steve I think the answering of technical questions has gone by the wayside. A couple of recent questions I've posted have not generated a single reply, let alone an answer. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Could be that nobody knew the answer. We used to be smarter. Brain damage due to cell phone radiation takes it's toll. Sent from my iPad On Jun 16, 2010, at 11:53 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see em, they might have not gotten through if you got NO reply. I know we often go off track on the list, but I've rarely seen people ignored and I don't think it was ever done purposely. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
Fact is, it was an iPad users problem and iPads are only on ATT..it didn't happen to all their phones on the network, just the iPad. Right, I forgot, bad code on MS means incompetence, bad code and security fixes on Apple is a feature. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:14 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Jun 14, 2010, at 6:08 PM, mike wrote: ATT's website said there are still lurking security problems related to the iPad. This is an ATT problem, not an iPad problem. You are so desperate to attack Apple that you can't even keep your facts straight. In a blog post, hacker group Goatse Security said Monday that a skilled attacker could take advantage of a weakness in the iPad's Safari Internet browser. The browser's bug could potentially allow someone to gain unwanted access to a user's iPad when that user clicks a malicious link. More desperation. This says nothing. If wishes were horses then beggars would ride. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
That was from Deep Throat's advice to Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward in the Nixon Water Gate scandal investigation. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- I cant remember the program, but always follow the money. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Fact is, it was an iPad users problem and iPads are only on ATT..it didn't happen to all their phones on the network, just the iPad. That breach of security and privacy was a problem for iPad users and should not be dismissed as such simply upon the basis that Apple was not the culprit. It will probably not be the last of the personal data breaches either. A fellow I know who works for the FAA has to travel all over the country on business. He likes his iPhone and iPad, but has to always take another phone with him on those trips because he cannot depend on the service provided by ATT. His big wish is that he could choose another service provider. He does not like the freedom of not having to choose. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:17 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Fact is, it was an iPad users problem and iPads are only on ATT..it didn't happen to all their phones on the network, just the iPad. That breach of security and privacy was a problem for iPad users and should not be dismissed as such simply upon the basis that Apple was not the culprit. It will probably not be the last of the personal data breaches either. A fellow I know who works for the FAA has to travel all over the country on business. He likes his iPhone and iPad, but has to always take another phone with him on those trips because he cannot depend on the service provided by ATT. His big wish is that he could choose another service provider. He does not like the freedom of not having to choose. Apple may have contracts that force them to use ATT exclusively for who knows how long. Other places have multiple carriers with the iPhones and apparently fewer problesm. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Exactly my point. The ATT servers have a problem and you make a bizarre twist of logic to somehow try to tar Apple with the ATT problem. I read the hacker blog post about iPad Safari. It demonstrates that the hacker has no idea about the structure of iOS. He thinks he is attacking Windows. Sent from my iPad On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:36 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Fact is, it was an iPad users problem and iPads are only on ATT..it didn't happen to all their phones on the network, just the iPad. Right, I forgot, bad code on MS means incompetence, bad code and security fixes on Apple is a feature. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
Tell him that the iPad is not locked to ATT. Sent from my iPad On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:17 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: country on business. He likes his iPhone and iPad, but has to always take another phone with him on those trips because he cannot depend on the service provided by ATT. His big wish is that he could choose another service provider. He does not like the freedom of not having to choose. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:53 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tell him that the iPad is not locked to ATT. I was referring to his phone. I wrote, He likes his iPhone and iPad, but has to always take another phone with him on those trips because he cannot depend on the service provided by ATT. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I can buy an iPad for Sprint and Verizon? On Jun 15, 2010 4:54 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tell him that the iPad is not locked to ATT. Sent from my iPad On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:17 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: country on busin... * ** List info, subscriptio... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:53 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tell him that the iPad is not locked to ATT. Sure, but as far as I know you have to muck around with things, like cutting SIM cards. Most folks aren't gonna get into doing that kind of stuff, especially since the iPad is designed and marketed to be particularly attractive to non-techie types. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
It's easier than that it just may not be cheaper. A Mifi box from Verizon is a portable personal mobile wifi hot spot for something like $50/month but you can use a cheap wifi only iPad plus the mifi is good for 5 connections. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:00 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:53 AM, TJPA t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tell him that the iPad is not locked to ATT. Sure, but as far as I know you have to muck around with things, like cutting SIM cards. Most folks aren't gonna get into doing that kind of stuff, especially since the iPad is designed and marketed to be particularly attractive to non-techie types. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: It's easier than that it just may not be cheaper. A Mifi box from Verizon is a portable personal mobile wifi hot spot for something like $50/month but you can use a cheap wifi only iPad plus the mifi is good for 5 connections. I was talking about 3G or 2G connectivity. Is that what you are referring to? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
He's talking about buying a little mifi box that uses verizon's 3g to give wifi connections to up to 5 devices. Or you could do this: http://dishtvhdstore.com/ipad-mifi-conversion-for-verizon/ On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: It's easier than that it just may not be cheaper. A Mifi box from Verizon is a portable personal mobile wifi hot spot for something like $50/month but you can use a cheap wifi only iPad plus the mifi is good for 5 connections. I was talking about 3G or 2G connectivity. Is that what you are referring to? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:06 AM, mike wrote: I can buy an iPad for Sprint and Verizon? Your bad grammar makes it hard to answer precisely. You could be trying to stack the deck to get a particular answer. In the interest of shedding light and not heat I will refer you to this... Use Your iPad With Verizon, Sprint... Or Anyone Else Roundup | PCMag.com http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362268,00.asp * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:07 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: It's easier than that it just may not be cheaper. A Mifi box from Verizon is a portable personal mobile wifi hot spot for something like $50/month but you can use a cheap wifi only iPad plus the mifi is good for 5 connections. I was talking about 3G or 2G connectivity. Is that what you are referring to? What more do you need to google than a name, a description and a vendor? Aw hell here is link, too. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobilebroadband/?page=products_mifi VZ doesn't mention XG where X= intentger 0 to 4. This is the gizmo that they think did in the iPhone demo last week. They had so many of them in the room that it overwhelmed the poor little iPhone 4. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:36 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: What more do you need to google than a name, a description and a vendor? Aw hell here is link, too. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobilebroadband/?page=products_mifi Chill. I only asked a question. I can do that, can't I? I don't google anyway. I search, and maybe I'll use Google when I do. Google is a brand name. I'm not so much into this brand loyalty thing. Anyway, I already checked it out, I'll guess that the name, MiFi, is as meaningless as the name WiFi. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:36 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: What more do you need to google than a name, a description and a vendor? Aw hell here is link, too. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobilebroadband/?page=products_mifi Chill. I only asked a question. I can do that, can't I? Sure and I get to be sarcastic about it. I don't google anyway. I search, and maybe I'll use Google when I do. Google is a brand name. I'm not so much into this brand loyalty thing. Google has been a verb for years now. When People are Bining then the end is near. Anyway, I already checked it out, I'll guess that the name, MiFi, is as meaningless as the name WiFi. Mifi is the brand name and a pun. WiFI is pretty distinct in meaning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:04 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: Mifi is the brand name and a pun. WiFI is pretty distinct in meaning. Not really. Founding members of the Wi-Fi Alliance smaintain that the term Wi-Fi has no meaning. The moniker of wireless fidelity was created by the general public. mostly print media and internet reporter types, and is pretty much considered to be predicated upon high fidelity. If you think about it, wireless fidelity actually makes no sense at all. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:04 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: Chill. I only asked a question. I can do that, can't I? Sure and I get to be sarcastic about it. Let's all try to be sarcastic as much as is possible, particularly when folks pose questions. Aren't questions supposed to be a primary reason for having the Computer Guy's List? If so, then why hand out s*** for doing exactly that? Do you wanna try to deep six the entire list, or just some of the folks on it? We already have too much sarcasm. Don't need more. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
The larger the user base the device/OS has the more people will take opportunities to try and hack it. Plus with Ipad being a high priced user tool, that means MONEY! I cant remember the program, but always follow the money. Stewart At 05:08 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/14/technology/att_ipad_hack/index.htm NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A day after ATT fessed up to its iPad 3G customers about a security breach, the hackers that exploited the vulnerabilityhttp://money.cnn.com/2010/06/09/technology/iPad_email_breach/index.htm?postversion=2010061009 in ATT's website said there are still lurking security problems related to the iPad. In a blog post, hacker group Goatse Security said Monday that a skilled attacker could take advantage of a weakness in the iPad's Safari Internet browser. The browser's bug could potentially allow someone to gain unwanted access to a user's iPad when that user clicks a malicious link. Looks like we could be seeing the fruition of Apple's increasing footprint on the web as it relates to their lack of security...or rather that their programmers are human beings after all and not angelic code machines who don't make mistakes. But then those who thought about it for more than three seconds knew this was the case. In either case, looks like Apple users will be seeing an increase in security updates for their mobile devices. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad
On Jun 14, 2010, at 6:08 PM, mike wrote: ATT's website said there are still lurking security problems related to the iPad. This is an ATT problem, not an iPad problem. You are so desperate to attack Apple that you can't even keep your facts straight. In a blog post, hacker group Goatse Security said Monday that a skilled attacker could take advantage of a weakness in the iPad's Safari Internet browser. The browser's bug could potentially allow someone to gain unwanted access to a user's iPad when that user clicks a malicious link. More desperation. This says nothing. If wishes were horses then beggars would ride. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
