Re: Marshall Upholding Federal Stutes

2003-08-14 Thread Louise Weinberg

August 3, 2003
Dear Bobby,
[Self
promotion warning.] There is a 160-page magnum opus of mine on Marbury
(forthcoming Virginia Law Review, Oct. 2003). The article pretty much
demolishes (she said modestly) the conventional technical critique of
Marshall's statutory construction and the conventional
technical critique of Marshall's constitutional
interpretation. It also knocks holes in the
conventional historical narrative within which we teach the case.
(This is not entirely self-promoting; I really don't know any other
source for much of the argumentation in this article.) The article
doesn't deal with judicial review as such, but does mention McCulloch as
the significant example of the point you make below.
Best,
Louise
At 05:51 AM 8/13/03, you wrote:

Two virtually independent issues: (1) There is a familiar line designed,
I think, to minimize (perhaps that's too strong) Marbury's
importance which states that the Supreme Court did not strike down
another federal law for over fifty years. I assume this also is designed
to show (suggest) that judicial review/supremacy during those years was
not a terribly significant power, especially compared with judicial
review/supremcy's role in the 20th century. Is there any literature
addressing this particular issue: Despite the lapse in the use of
judicial review to strike down federal statutes, the history of
the Marshall Court demonstrates the tremendous (additional?) power
Marshall grabbed for the Court in upholding federal statutes in
such cases as McCulloch, Gibbons, and others? Thus, the
lapse in striking down federal statutes is not even remotely dispositive
in the debate over the power (legitimate or stolen) Marshall
garnered for the Court during his tenure as Chief Justice because in
upholding federal statutes Marshall nevertheless arguably transformed
American constitutionalism and government. If so, upholding federal
laws as much as striking them down should be considered in evaluating the
power the Court acquired during this period.
 (2) Is there an obvious answer
(which I'm unfortunately overlooking) why didn't Marshall address Art. I,
Section 9, cl. 6:

No Preference shall be given by
any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over
those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be
obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another. in
Gibbons? Thanks.

Bobby Lipkin
Widener University School of Law
Delaware



Re: Marshall Upholding Federal Stutes

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Graber



Sorry about that. I have a very
slow learning curve with respect to email.

MAG
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/13/03 03:39PM

will do. Can you send me an address.

MAG
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/13/03 03:36PM
Mark, I'd welcome receiving copies. Thanks,
Bobby.Bobby LipkinWidener University School of
LawDelaware 


Re: Marshall Upholding Federal Stutes

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Graber



will do. Can you send me an address.

MAG
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/13/03 03:36PM
Mark, I'd welcome receiving copies. Thanks,
Bobby.Bobby LipkinWidener University School of
LawDelaware 


Re: Marshall Upholding Federal Stutes

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew J. Franck

I don't think that (in your words, Bobby) the history
of the Marshall Court demonstrates the tremendous (additional?) power
Marshall grabbed for the Court in upholding federal statutes in
such cases as McCulloch, Gibbons, and others.
It does not follow from Marshall's defense of the constitutionality of
these federal statutes that he thought it was any business of the
judiciary to be the final arbiters of their validity. I argue this
in a chapter on Marshall recently published in History of American
Political Thought, ed. Frost and Sikkenga (Lexington, 2003).
As for your second question, I think there's a simple reason why Art. I,
sec. 9, cl. 6 did not come up in Gibbons: that clause is (like all
others in sec. 9) a limitation on the federal government's power, not the
power of the states. The only federal law at stake in Gibbons
was the one under which Gibbons acquired his coasting
license, and that law gave no preference that could be
implicated by the clause in question.
Matt
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At 06:51 AM 8/13/2003 -0400, you wrote:

Two virtually independent issues: (1) There is a familiar line designed,
I think, to minimize (perhaps that's too strong) Marbury's
importance which states that the Supreme Court did not strike down
another federal law for over fifty years. I assume this also is designed
to show (suggest) that judicial review/supremacy during those years was
not a terribly significant power, especially compared with judicial
review/supremcy's role in the 20th century. Is there any literature
addressing this particular issue: Despite the lapse in the use of
judicial review to strike down federal statutes, the history of
the Marshall Court demonstrates the tremendous (additional?) power
Marshall grabbed for the Court in upholding federal statutes in
such cases as McCulloch, Gibbons, and others? Thus, the
lapse in striking down federal statutes is not even remotely dispositive
in the debate over the power (legitimate or stolen) Marshall
garnered for the Court during his tenure as Chief Justice because in
upholding federal statutes Marshall nevertheless arguably transformed
American constitutionalism and government. If so, upholding federal
laws as much as striking them down should be considered in evaluating the
power the Court acquired during this period.
 (2) Is there an obvious answer
(which I'm unfortunately overlooking) why didn't Marshall address Art. I,
Section 9, cl. 6: 
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation
of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another:
nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter,
clear, or pay Duties in another. in Gibbons?
Thanks.

Bobby Lipkin
Widener University School of Law
Delaware