[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Elizabeth Bloom Albert via Contra Callers
Offering up the following:

*Burning Ring of Arches **by Elizabeth Bloom Albert*

Sicilian Circle.  QUADRUPLE Progression dance



*Key:  1’s = Couples who are facing CW around circle*

*   2’s = Couples who are facing CCW around circle*



A1  1’s Arch, 2’s Duck under;

   2’s Arch, 1’s Duck under;

   1’s Arch, 2’s Duck under;

   2’s Arch, 1’s Duck under



A2  Ladies Chain (to Neighbor)

   Ladies Chain (to Partner)



B1  Ladies Alle-R 1 and ½

   Swing Neighbor

   End swing facing partner.



B2  Circle Left 3/4

   Swing Partner

  End swing facing original direction.



On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 2:06 PM Charles Abell via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hello group, It's been a while since I called a Sicilian Circle, but I may
> soon - two questions:
>
>1. Typically, one couple isn't considered the "ones" and the other
>"twos", right?
>2. If there *are* ones and two, which couple would be considered the
>"ones" - CW or CCW?
>3. If there *are not *typically ones and twos, has anyone tried
>ascribing those roles for a Sicilian circle dance. That is, I had an idea
>for a dance that ends with a square dance figure requiring one couple to
>arch first, thus the need for separate numbers.
>
> I did attempt to find an answer online and was not initially successful.
> Thoughts?
>
> Chuck
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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Charles Abell via Contra Callers
Thanks for the comments, everyone. Very helpful, especially the tip about 
promenading into the proper formation.

I noticed no one has responded yet to the question about whether a large number 
of contra dances could be run as Sicilian circles. I'd be curious to hear what 
others say, but my instinct is that it would maybe be problematic. The 
curvature of the format would seem to make heys and other figures more 
challenging to execute - the spacing between minor sets might also be impacted 
in that formation. So, for instance, when doing a sequence like "alle right N1 
1/2x along the side then alle left next N 1x", the distance between N #1 and 
N#2 might easily be greater than in a regular contra. Anyway, this is just an 
initial gut reaction - let's see what the hive mind thinks.

As for "barnburner" dances, that's a broad term, and there are so many to 
choose from. How about, as a starting bid, "From Here to Infinity" by Bob 
Isaacs...

Chuck

From: Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:18 PM
To: New Contra Callers List 
Subject: [Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

It appears that in that book the dance formation is given as a longways, 
duple, improper set.  Not the circle of couple facing couple that we typically 
connect to the Sicilian circle formation.  The dance just before it is the 
Spanish Dance and gives as the formation, "The first couple at the head of the 
room, with their backs to the wall; the next couple facing the first; the third 
couple with their backs to the second; the fourth couple facing the third; and 
all the rest are formed in the same manner, every two couples facing each 
other, without regard to numbers."

Then it says, "As each couple arrives at the end of the room, they must 
turn round and wait for the next couple to meet them, the gentlemen being 
careful to have their ladies always on the right hand.

This seems to be describing a longways dance instead of a circle.  Under 
Sicilian Circle it says, "This dance is formed precisely the same as the 
Spanish Dance," so that would seem to be a longways dance as well.

I think I have read that Spanish Dance was also used in the 19th century as 
the generic name for the circle of couples facing each other.  So were these 
dances described somewhere with the circle formation, or was that just 
something that someone did at one point and it stuck?

Jonathan

On 2/4/2023 4:52 PM, David Harding via Contra Callers wrote:
> There is a specific old dance bearing the name "Sicilian Circle".  You can 
> find it in, for instance, this 1857 instruction book from the Library of 
> Congress. https://www.loc.gov/item/musdi.094/   The name has come to imply 
> the formation and general pattern.
>
> On 2/4/2023 3:49 PM, Joe Harrington via Contra Callers wrote:
>> Newbie question: Why is it called a "Sicilian" circle?
>>
>> While certain dances came from long ago with that label, wouldn't many/most 
>> contras work, as long as the circle isn't too small and the 1s and 2s are 
>> comparably active?
>>
>> --jh--
>>
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[Callers] Re: Rompin' Stompin'

2023-02-04 Thread Chris Page via Contra Callers
What do you mean by "barn burner contra"?

Confused,
-Chris Page
Los Angeles, CA
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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers

   It appears that in that book the dance formation is given as a longways, duple, 
improper set.  Not the circle of couple facing couple that we typically connect to the 
Sicilian circle formation.  The dance just before it is the Spanish Dance and gives as 
the formation, "The first couple at the head of the room, with their backs to the 
wall; the next couple facing the first; the third couple with their backs to the second; 
the fourth couple facing the third; and all the rest are formed in the same manner, every 
two couples facing each other, without regard to numbers."

   Then it says, "As each couple arrives at the end of the room, they must turn 
round and wait for the next couple to meet them, the gentlemen being careful to have 
their ladies always on the right hand.

   This seems to be describing a longways dance instead of a circle.  Under Sicilian 
Circle it says, "This dance is formed precisely the same as the Spanish Dance," 
so that would seem to be a longways dance as well.

   I think I have read that Spanish Dance was also used in the 19th century as 
the generic name for the circle of couples facing each other.  So were these 
dances described somewhere with the circle formation, or was that just 
something that someone did at one point and it stuck?

Jonathan

On 2/4/2023 4:52 PM, David Harding via Contra Callers wrote:

There is a specific old dance bearing the name "Sicilian Circle".  You can find 
it in, for instance, this 1857 instruction book from the Library of Congress. 
https://www.loc.gov/item/musdi.094/   The name has come to imply the formation and 
general pattern.

On 2/4/2023 3:49 PM, Joe Harrington via Contra Callers wrote:

Newbie question: Why is it called a "Sicilian" circle?

While certain dances came from long ago with that label, wouldn't many/most 
contras work, as long as the circle isn't too small and the 1s and 2s are 
comparably active?

--jh--


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[Callers] Rompin' Stompin'

2023-02-04 Thread Amy Wimmer via Contra Callers
Hey All,

What are your favorite barn burner contras? I have a few, but they get old.

-Amy
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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread David Harding via Contra Callers
There is a specific old dance bearing the name "Sicilian Circle".  You 
can find it in, for instance, this 1857 instruction book from the 
Library of Congress. https://www.loc.gov/item/musdi.094/  The name has 
come to imply the formation and general pattern.


On 2/4/2023 3:49 PM, Joe Harrington via Contra Callers wrote:

Newbie question: Why is it called a "Sicilian" circle?

While certain dances came from long ago with that label, wouldn't 
many/most contras work, as long as the circle isn't too small and the 
1s and 2s are comparably active?


--jh--


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[Callers] Re: Do you add a 'do anything' move into a contra? OR other playful strategies? :)

2023-02-04 Thread Qui Ann via Contra Callers
I call Hot Buttered Rolls by Perry Shafran and sometimes modify the B1 to “pass 
P, shadow DSD” and then invite them to sort out with their shadow as to what 
they want to do. 
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=7821 


Same with "Vote with Your Feet" by Bob Isaacs.
https://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=1956 

In this video you can hear me say “do something” when it comes to that part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKP1xR-fjgk&ab_channel=albatrossace101

Jacqui

> On Feb 4, 2023, at 12:47, Emily Addison via Contra Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> After a number of relatively quiet caller years (parenting; pandemic), I've 
> started to dig deep to expand my repertoire and up my skills.  It feels like 
> it's time for lots more dance fun! :)
> 
> One dance that I've really enjoyed is Heartbeat Contra (by Don Flaherty - see 
> below).
> Tom Calwell called it in Ottawa way back in 2010 and  at the top of the B1, 
> he called Al R 1.5 or ANYTHING (R shoulder round, swing, DSD).
> 
> Do any of you throw in a 'do anything' moment in an evening of contra 
> programming? I'm always looking for fun, playful moments that make dancers 
> smile and this feels like a lovely one.  If you throw in an anything moment, 
> how do you choose when?
> 
> And do you have other strategies for adding playfulness to an evening?
> I've got some dances which I find super playful and fun (e.g., Three's 
> Company - Altered & Alternating - Paul Balliet)
> 
> Thoughts on this?
> 
> Thanks!
> Emily in Ottawa
> 
> ---
> Heartbeat Contra (Don Flaherty)
> A1 
> Bal Ring & Petronella Twirl 
> Bal Ring & Petronella Twirl
> 
> A2
> Bal Ring & N Sw
> 
> B1
> ROB Al R 1.5  OR ANYTHING! (Al R, Rshoulder round, swing, DSD... original was 
> RH round)
> P Sw
> 
> B2
> Cir L 3/4
> Bal Ring & California Twirl
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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Joe Harrington via Contra Callers
Newbie question: Why is it called a "Sicilian" circle?

While certain dances came from long ago with that label, wouldn't many/most
contras work, as long as the circle isn't too small and the 1s and 2s are
comparably active?

--jh--


On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 4:39 PM Amy Cann via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Glad you like it!
>
> For what it's worth, at a ONS I often do a scatter mixer that's
> basically half of "Haste to the Wedding" -
>
> Circle L, circle R
> Star R star L
> everybody bow, promenade and find someone else
>
> for a little, then turn the scatter promenade into the big ring and go
> from there.
>
> On 2/4/23, Winston, Alan P.  wrote:
> > Any —
> >
> > That’s great!  I hadn’t encountered that, and I really have to put it in
> my
> > toolbox for ONS - way faster/more fun than getting people who have no
> idea
> > what a Sicilian *is* to pair up and form one.  (The best I had up to this
> > point was make a big circle, pick a pair and make them face, and then (in
> > Susan Michael’s words), say “Chain Reaction - pair up like this all the
> way
> > around.). So this’ll be good even for symmetric Sicilians.
> >
> > — Alan
> >
> > 
> > From: Amy Cann 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 1:11 PM
> > To: Winston, Alan P.
> > Cc: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net; Charles Abell
> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question
> >
> > Here's how I learned:
> >
> > "Everybody promenade the usual way, two-by-two around the room - now
> > stop where you are."
> >
> > "Starting from this point right in front of me (gesture to where head
> > couple of center set usually stands for contras), you're going to
> > count off in pairs of couples and take hands four in this big ring.
> >
> > "Half of you can just stay facing the usual promenade direction - you're
> 1s"
> >
> > "Half of you will need to turn as a couple and face the 'wrong'
> > direction - you're 2's".
> >
> > It links the role of 1s/2s to the familiar line-of-direction we use
> > for promenading and coupledancing
> >
> > -- who feels most "normal", and who feels as if they're
> > accommodating/supporting.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/4/23, Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers
> >  wrote:
> >> To your questions:
> >>
> >> 1: Right, the vast majority of Sicilians are completely symmetrical.
> >>
> >> 2: Because of this, I don't think there's a default for whether CW or
> CCW
> >> are the "1s". You can just pick which one you want.
> >>
> >> 3.  Yes, there are non-symmetric Sicilians -= I'm looking at notes for
> >> "The
> >> Molly Andrew", a waltz Sicilian; it has the 1s ("those facing
> clockwise")
> >> do
> >> the figure through the 2s and then the 2s through the 1., and it's fine
> so
> >> long as you get across who goes first.  Way better to indicate  that
> >> visually rather than just say it.
> >>
> >> -- Alan
> >> 
> >> From: Charles Abell via Contra Callers
> >> 
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 12:06 PM
> >> To: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net
> >> Subject: [Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question
> >>
> >> Hello group, It's been a while since I called a Sicilian Circle, but I
> may
> >> soon - two questions:
> >>
> >>   1.  Typically, one couple isn't considered the "ones" and the other
> >> "twos", right?
> >>   2.  If there are ones and two, which couple would be considered the
> >> "ones"
> >> - CW or CCW?
> >>   3.  If there are not typically ones and twos, has anyone tried
> ascribing
> >> those roles for a Sicilian circle dance. That is, I had an idea for a
> >> dance
> >> that ends with a square dance figure requiring one couple to arch first,
> >> thus the need for separate numbers.
> >>
> >> I did attempt to find an answer online and was not initially successful.
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Chuck
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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Amy Cann via Contra Callers
Glad you like it!

For what it's worth, at a ONS I often do a scatter mixer that's
basically half of "Haste to the Wedding" -

Circle L, circle R
Star R star L
everybody bow, promenade and find someone else

for a little, then turn the scatter promenade into the big ring and go
from there.

On 2/4/23, Winston, Alan P.  wrote:
> Any —
>
> That’s great!  I hadn’t encountered that, and I really have to put it in my
> toolbox for ONS - way faster/more fun than getting people who have no idea
> what a Sicilian *is* to pair up and form one.  (The best I had up to this
> point was make a big circle, pick a pair and make them face, and then (in
> Susan Michael’s words), say “Chain Reaction - pair up like this all the way
> around.). So this’ll be good even for symmetric Sicilians.
>
> — Alan
>
> 
> From: Amy Cann 
> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 1:11 PM
> To: Winston, Alan P.
> Cc: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net; Charles Abell
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question
>
> Here's how I learned:
>
> "Everybody promenade the usual way, two-by-two around the room - now
> stop where you are."
>
> "Starting from this point right in front of me (gesture to where head
> couple of center set usually stands for contras), you're going to
> count off in pairs of couples and take hands four in this big ring.
>
> "Half of you can just stay facing the usual promenade direction - you're 1s"
>
> "Half of you will need to turn as a couple and face the 'wrong'
> direction - you're 2's".
>
> It links the role of 1s/2s to the familiar line-of-direction we use
> for promenading and coupledancing
>
> -- who feels most "normal", and who feels as if they're
> accommodating/supporting.
>
>
>
> On 2/4/23, Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers
>  wrote:
>> To your questions:
>>
>> 1: Right, the vast majority of Sicilians are completely symmetrical.
>>
>> 2: Because of this, I don't think there's a default for whether CW or CCW
>> are the "1s". You can just pick which one you want.
>>
>> 3.  Yes, there are non-symmetric Sicilians -= I'm looking at notes for
>> "The
>> Molly Andrew", a waltz Sicilian; it has the 1s ("those facing clockwise")
>> do
>> the figure through the 2s and then the 2s through the 1., and it's fine so
>> long as you get across who goes first.  Way better to indicate  that
>> visually rather than just say it.
>>
>> -- Alan
>> 
>> From: Charles Abell via Contra Callers
>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 12:06 PM
>> To: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net
>> Subject: [Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question
>>
>> Hello group, It's been a while since I called a Sicilian Circle, but I may
>> soon - two questions:
>>
>>   1.  Typically, one couple isn't considered the "ones" and the other
>> "twos", right?
>>   2.  If there are ones and two, which couple would be considered the
>> "ones"
>> - CW or CCW?
>>   3.  If there are not typically ones and twos, has anyone tried ascribing
>> those roles for a Sicilian circle dance. That is, I had an idea for a
>> dance
>> that ends with a square dance figure requiring one couple to arch first,
>> thus the need for separate numbers.
>>
>> I did attempt to find an answer online and was not initially successful.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Chuck
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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers
Any —

That’s great!  I hadn’t encountered that, and I really have to put it in my 
toolbox for ONS - way faster/more fun than getting people who have no idea what 
a Sicilian *is* to pair up and form one.  (The best I had up to this point was 
make a big circle, pick a pair and make them face, and then (in Susan Michael’s 
words), say “Chain Reaction - pair up like this all the way around.). So 
this’ll be good even for symmetric Sicilians.

— Alan


From: Amy Cann 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 1:11 PM
To: Winston, Alan P.
Cc: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net; Charles Abell
Subject: Re: [Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

Here's how I learned:

"Everybody promenade the usual way, two-by-two around the room - now
stop where you are."

"Starting from this point right in front of me (gesture to where head
couple of center set usually stands for contras), you're going to
count off in pairs of couples and take hands four in this big ring.

"Half of you can just stay facing the usual promenade direction - you're 1s"

"Half of you will need to turn as a couple and face the 'wrong'
direction - you're 2's".

It links the role of 1s/2s to the familiar line-of-direction we use
for promenading and coupledancing

-- who feels most "normal", and who feels as if they're
accommodating/supporting.



On 2/4/23, Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers
 wrote:
> To your questions:
>
> 1: Right, the vast majority of Sicilians are completely symmetrical.
>
> 2: Because of this, I don't think there's a default for whether CW or CCW
> are the "1s". You can just pick which one you want.
>
> 3.  Yes, there are non-symmetric Sicilians -= I'm looking at notes for "The
> Molly Andrew", a waltz Sicilian; it has the 1s ("those facing clockwise") do
> the figure through the 2s and then the 2s through the 1., and it's fine so
> long as you get across who goes first.  Way better to indicate  that
> visually rather than just say it.
>
> -- Alan
> 
> From: Charles Abell via Contra Callers
> 
> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 12:06 PM
> To: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Subject: [Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question
>
> Hello group, It's been a while since I called a Sicilian Circle, but I may
> soon - two questions:
>
>   1.  Typically, one couple isn't considered the "ones" and the other
> "twos", right?
>   2.  If there are ones and two, which couple would be considered the "ones"
> - CW or CCW?
>   3.  If there are not typically ones and twos, has anyone tried ascribing
> those roles for a Sicilian circle dance. That is, I had an idea for a dance
> that ends with a square dance figure requiring one couple to arch first,
> thus the need for separate numbers.
>
> I did attempt to find an answer online and was not initially successful.
> Thoughts?
>
> Chuck
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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Amy Cann via Contra Callers
Here's how I learned:

"Everybody promenade the usual way, two-by-two around the room - now
stop where you are."

"Starting from this point right in front of me (gesture to where head
couple of center set usually stands for contras), you're going to
count off in pairs of couples and take hands four in this big ring.

"Half of you can just stay facing the usual promenade direction - you're 1s"

"Half of you will need to turn as a couple and face the 'wrong'
direction - you're 2's".

It links the role of 1s/2s to the familiar line-of-direction we use
for promenading and coupledancing

-- who feels most "normal", and who feels as if they're
accommodating/supporting.



On 2/4/23, Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers
 wrote:
> To your questions:
>
> 1: Right, the vast majority of Sicilians are completely symmetrical.
>
> 2: Because of this, I don't think there's a default for whether CW or CCW
> are the "1s". You can just pick which one you want.
>
> 3.  Yes, there are non-symmetric Sicilians -= I'm looking at notes for "The
> Molly Andrew", a waltz Sicilian; it has the 1s ("those facing clockwise") do
> the figure through the 2s and then the 2s through the 1., and it's fine so
> long as you get across who goes first.  Way better to indicate  that
> visually rather than just say it.
>
> -- Alan
> 
> From: Charles Abell via Contra Callers
> 
> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 12:06 PM
> To: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Subject: [Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question
>
> Hello group, It's been a while since I called a Sicilian Circle, but I may
> soon - two questions:
>
>   1.  Typically, one couple isn't considered the "ones" and the other
> "twos", right?
>   2.  If there are ones and two, which couple would be considered the "ones"
> - CW or CCW?
>   3.  If there are not typically ones and twos, has anyone tried ascribing
> those roles for a Sicilian circle dance. That is, I had an idea for a dance
> that ends with a square dance figure requiring one couple to arch first,
> thus the need for separate numbers.
>
> I did attempt to find an answer online and was not initially successful.
> Thoughts?
>
> Chuck
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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers
To your questions:

1: Right, the vast majority of Sicilians are completely symmetrical.

2: Because of this, I don't think there's a default for whether CW or CCW are 
the "1s". You can just pick which one you want.

3.  Yes, there are non-symmetric Sicilians -= I'm looking at notes for "The 
Molly Andrew", a waltz Sicilian; it has the 1s ("those facing clockwise") do 
the figure through the 2s and then the 2s through the 1., and it's fine so long 
as you get across who goes first.  Way better to indicate  that visually rather 
than just say it.  

-- Alan

From: Charles Abell via Contra Callers 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 12:06 PM
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Subject: [Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

Hello group, It's been a while since I called a Sicilian Circle, but I may soon 
- two questions:

  1.  Typically, one couple isn't considered the "ones" and the other "twos", 
right?
  2.  If there are ones and two, which couple would be considered the "ones" - 
CW or CCW?
  3.  If there are not typically ones and twos, has anyone tried ascribing 
those roles for a Sicilian circle dance. That is, I had an idea for a dance 
that ends with a square dance figure requiring one couple to arch first, thus 
the need for separate numbers.

I did attempt to find an answer online and was not initially successful. 
Thoughts?

Chuck
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[Callers] Do you add a 'do anything' move into a contra? OR other playful strategies? :)

2023-02-04 Thread Emily Addison via Contra Callers
Hey folks,

After a number of relatively quiet caller years (parenting; pandemic), I've
started to dig deep to expand my repertoire and up my skills.  It feels
like it's time for lots more dance fun! :)

One dance that I've really enjoyed is Heartbeat Contra (by Don Flaherty -
see below).
Tom Calwell called it in Ottawa way back in 2010 and  at the top of the B1,
he called Al R 1.5 or ANYTHING (R shoulder round, swing, DSD).

*Do any of you throw in a 'do anything' moment in an evening of contra
programming?* I'm always looking for fun, playful moments that make dancers
smile and this feels like a lovely one.  If you throw in an anything
moment, how do you choose when?

*And do you have other strategies for adding playfulness to an evening?*
I've got some dances which I find super playful and fun (e.g., Three's
Company - Altered & Alternating - Paul Balliet)

Thoughts on this?

Thanks!
Emily in Ottawa

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Heartbeat Contra (Don Flaherty)
A1

Bal Ring & Petronella Twirl
Bal Ring & Petronella Twirl

A2
Bal Ring & N Sw

B1

ROB Al R 1.5  *OR ANYTHING! *(Al R, Rshoulder round, swing, DSD... original
was RH round)
P Sw

B2

Cir L 3/4
Bal Ring & California Twirl
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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers

   I have a Sicilian Circle dance in my collection called Dip for the Oyster 
which designates 1's and 2's to determine who ducks or arches first.  In my 
notes I have 1's facing CCW and 2's facing CW.  However, I imagine this is 
totally arbitrary and you could do it whichever way you like.  In most of the 
Sicilian Circles I'm aware of there is no need to designate 1's and 2's.

Jonathan

On 2/4/2023 2:06 PM, Charles Abell via Contra Callers wrote:

Hello group, It's been a while since I called a Sicilian Circle, but I may soon 
- two questions:

 1. Typically, one couple isn't considered the "ones" and the other "twos", 
right?
 2. If there /are/ ones and two, which couple would be considered the "ones" - 
CW or CCW?
 3. If there /are not /typically ones and twos, has anyone tried ascribing those roles for a Sicilian circle dance. That is, I had an idea for a dance that ends with a square dance figure requiring one couple to arch first, thus the need for separate numbers. 


I did attempt to find an answer online and was not initially successful. 
Thoughts?

Chuck

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[Callers] Re: Sicilian Circle question

2023-02-04 Thread Charles Abell via Contra Callers
Hello group, It's been a while since I called a Sicilian Circle, but I may soon 
- two questions:

  1.  Typically, one couple isn't considered the "ones" and the other "twos", 
right?
  2.  If there are ones and two, which couple would be considered the "ones" - 
CW or CCW?
  3.  If there are not typically ones and twos, has anyone tried ascribing 
those roles for a Sicilian circle dance. That is, I had an idea for a dance 
that ends with a square dance figure requiring one couple to arch first, thus 
the need for separate numbers.

I did attempt to find an answer online and was not initially successful. 
Thoughts?

Chuck
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