[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers]

I've updated https://trycontra.com with what I believe is a full list of
dances that have resumed: https://trycontra.com/list

It looks like there are about 26 now.

Jeff

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 4:19 PM Jeff Kaufman 
wrote:

> The first Massachusetts dance to be starting up in person indoors is the
> Worcester dance: https://www.worcesterdance.org/. They list:
>
> "Documented proof of either full vaccination or  a negative COVID test.
> The COVID test must be taken no more than three days prior to the dance.
> Photos of either vax cards or said test results will be accepted as proof.
>
> Per City of Worcester mandate, masks are to be worn at all times by
> everyone in the building.
>
> Each attendee must provide their name, email address, and cell phone
> number for contact-tracing purposes.
>
> The gymnasium where the dance is being held is quite large for the
> expected number of attendees. We will augment that by placing box fans in
> front of open windows in at least two locations to provide for the
> circulation of fresh air. The facility also has several ceiling fans which
> will assist in that process."
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 4:00 PM tedsims--- via Contra Callers <
> contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> In Louisville, the group that usually organizes dances has not started
>> dancing again so other dances have popped up to take their place.
>>
>> There is a weekly dance recently on Mondays, all volunteer everything,
>> with donations, vaccinated only, not checked, and you have to sign a
>> waiver. Masks not required. Some people wear masks and some do not. 30~40
>> people.
>>
>> There is a second dance, not the same people organizing, happening
>> occasionally but not on a regular basis that has been going on for months.
>> Also vaccinated only, and masks strongly recommended.  The last one was
>> well attended. There's one scheduled 3rd Sat this month and the
>> announcement says they will be checking cards.
>>
>> Between the two groups mentioned above, there will be 5 contra dances in
>> Louisville in November, not counting the tin-hat-crowd barn dance east of
>> town which has been going on monthly for more than a year, except summer.
>>
>> Some people are fine dancing in a mask and some people object for various
>> stated reasons, obviously.
>>
>> On a related note, the club salsa community in town here, which is
>> significant, has been dancing business-as-usual for most of the year. Ditto
>> the west coast swing crowd.
>>
>> I am not personally aware of any dancing related breakouts.
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers]

Yes, I have talked to them, suggesting that they not allow tests as an
alternative to vaccination, and that they provide free surgical masks
(~$0.08/each) to people arriving with cloth masks.

Jeff

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 5:11 PM Ron Blechner  wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Any test?
> So like, someone can take the rapid test which is only about 55% accurate
> when no symptoms are present? :/
>
> Yikes.
>
> Hopefully someone can message the Worcester orgs and suggest they tighten
> up the language on that?
>
> At least they have a mask mandate, which seems to be a big factor in
> reducing transmission, assuming people don't have slipping and loose masks
> or bandanas.
>
> Ron Blechner
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 4:19 PM Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers <
> contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> The first Massachusetts dance to be starting up in person indoors is the
>> Worcester dance: https://www.worcesterdance.org/. They list:
>>
>> "Documented proof of either full vaccination or  a negative COVID test.
>> The COVID test must be taken no more than three days prior to the dance.
>> Photos of either vax cards or said test results will be accepted as proof.
>>
>> Per City of Worcester mandate, masks are to be worn at all times by
>> everyone in the building.
>>
>> Each attendee must provide their name, email address, and cell phone
>> number for contact-tracing purposes.
>>
>> The gymnasium where the dance is being held is quite large for the
>> expected number of attendees. We will augment that by placing box fans in
>> front of open windows in at least two locations to provide for the
>> circulation of fresh air. The facility also has several ceiling fans which
>> will assist in that process."
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 4:00 PM tedsims--- via Contra Callers <
>> contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In Louisville, the group that usually organizes dances has not started
>>> dancing again so other dances have popped up to take their place.
>>>
>>> There is a weekly dance recently on Mondays, all volunteer everything,
>>> with donations, vaccinated only, not checked, and you have to sign a
>>> waiver. Masks not required. Some people wear masks and some do not. 30~40
>>> people.
>>>
>>> There is a second dance, not the same people organizing, happening
>>> occasionally but not on a regular basis that has been going on for months.
>>> Also vaccinated only, and masks strongly recommended.  The last one was
>>> well attended. There's one scheduled 3rd Sat this month and the
>>> announcement says they will be checking cards.
>>>
>>> Between the two groups mentioned above, there will be 5 contra dances in
>>> Louisville in November, not counting the tin-hat-crowd barn dance east of
>>> town which has been going on monthly for more than a year, except summer.
>>>
>>> Some people are fine dancing in a mask and some people object for
>>> various stated reasons, obviously.
>>>
>>> On a related note, the club salsa community in town here, which is
>>> significant, has been dancing business-as-usual for most of the year. Ditto
>>> the west coast swing crowd.
>>>
>>> I am not personally aware of any dancing related breakouts.
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Ron Blechner via Contra Callers]

Jeff,

Any test?
So like, someone can take the rapid test which is only about 55% accurate
when no symptoms are present? :/

Yikes.

Hopefully someone can message the Worcester orgs and suggest they tighten
up the language on that?

At least they have a mask mandate, which seems to be a big factor in
reducing transmission, assuming people don't have slipping and loose masks
or bandanas.

Ron Blechner


On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 4:19 PM Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> The first Massachusetts dance to be starting up in person indoors is the
> Worcester dance: https://www.worcesterdance.org/. They list:
>
> "Documented proof of either full vaccination or  a negative COVID test.
> The COVID test must be taken no more than three days prior to the dance.
> Photos of either vax cards or said test results will be accepted as proof.
>
> Per City of Worcester mandate, masks are to be worn at all times by
> everyone in the building.
>
> Each attendee must provide their name, email address, and cell phone
> number for contact-tracing purposes.
>
> The gymnasium where the dance is being held is quite large for the
> expected number of attendees. We will augment that by placing box fans in
> front of open windows in at least two locations to provide for the
> circulation of fresh air. The facility also has several ceiling fans which
> will assist in that process."
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 4:00 PM tedsims--- via Contra Callers <
> contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> In Louisville, the group that usually organizes dances has not started
>> dancing again so other dances have popped up to take their place.
>>
>> There is a weekly dance recently on Mondays, all volunteer everything,
>> with donations, vaccinated only, not checked, and you have to sign a
>> waiver. Masks not required. Some people wear masks and some do not. 30~40
>> people.
>>
>> There is a second dance, not the same people organizing, happening
>> occasionally but not on a regular basis that has been going on for months.
>> Also vaccinated only, and masks strongly recommended.  The last one was
>> well attended. There's one scheduled 3rd Sat this month and the
>> announcement says they will be checking cards.
>>
>> Between the two groups mentioned above, there will be 5 contra dances in
>> Louisville in November, not counting the tin-hat-crowd barn dance east of
>> town which has been going on monthly for more than a year, except summer.
>>
>> Some people are fine dancing in a mask and some people object for various
>> stated reasons, obviously.
>>
>> On a related note, the club salsa community in town here, which is
>> significant, has been dancing business-as-usual for most of the year. Ditto
>> the west coast swing crowd.
>>
>> I am not personally aware of any dancing related breakouts.
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers]

The first Massachusetts dance to be starting up in person indoors is the
Worcester dance: https://www.worcesterdance.org/. They list:

"Documented proof of either full vaccination or  a negative COVID test. The
COVID test must be taken no more than three days prior to the dance. Photos
of either vax cards or said test results will be accepted as proof.

Per City of Worcester mandate, masks are to be worn at all times by
everyone in the building.

Each attendee must provide their name, email address, and cell phone number
for contact-tracing purposes.

The gymnasium where the dance is being held is quite large for the expected
number of attendees. We will augment that by placing box fans in front of
open windows in at least two locations to provide for the circulation of
fresh air. The facility also has several ceiling fans which will assist in
that process."

Jeff

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 4:00 PM tedsims--- via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> In Louisville, the group that usually organizes dances has not started
> dancing again so other dances have popped up to take their place.
>
> There is a weekly dance recently on Mondays, all volunteer everything,
> with donations, vaccinated only, not checked, and you have to sign a
> waiver. Masks not required. Some people wear masks and some do not. 30~40
> people.
>
> There is a second dance, not the same people organizing, happening
> occasionally but not on a regular basis that has been going on for months.
> Also vaccinated only, and masks strongly recommended.  The last one was
> well attended. There's one scheduled 3rd Sat this month and the
> announcement says they will be checking cards.
>
> Between the two groups mentioned above, there will be 5 contra dances in
> Louisville in November, not counting the tin-hat-crowd barn dance east of
> town which has been going on monthly for more than a year, except summer.
>
> Some people are fine dancing in a mask and some people object for various
> stated reasons, obviously.
>
> On a related note, the club salsa community in town here, which is
> significant, has been dancing business-as-usual for most of the year. Ditto
> the west coast swing crowd.
>
> I am not personally aware of any dancing related breakouts.
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[tedsims--- via Contra Callers]

In Louisville, the group that usually organizes dances has not started dancing 
again so other dances have popped up to take their place.

There is a weekly dance recently on Mondays, all volunteer everything, with 
donations, vaccinated only, not checked, and you have to sign a waiver. Masks 
not required. Some people wear masks and some do not. 30~40 people. 

There is a second dance, not the same people organizing, happening occasionally 
but not on a regular basis that has been going on for months. Also vaccinated 
only, and masks strongly recommended.  The last one was well attended. There's 
one scheduled 3rd Sat this month and the announcement says they will be 
checking cards. 

Between the two groups mentioned above, there will be 5 contra dances in 
Louisville in November, not counting the tin-hat-crowd barn dance east of town 
which has been going on monthly for more than a year, except summer.

Some people are fine dancing in a mask and some people object for various 
stated reasons, obviously.

On a related note, the club salsa community in town here, which is significant, 
has been dancing business-as-usual for most of the year. Ditto the west coast 
swing crowd.

I am not personally aware of any dancing related breakouts.
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Martha Edwards via Contra Callers]

Here in St Louis, we've had a small handful of dances - outdoors in a city
park, live music, open calling, proof of vaccination required, with a
signup sheet provided in case we hear of anyone getting sick (so we can
notify all the others who attended).

The dances have only a small percentage of our regular dances, but everyone
is SO HAPPY to see their friends, to chat, to hug -- and dance!

We won't be able to keep them up much longer - outdoors starts to get
pretty cold here soon.  If we can find an indoor space with good
ventilation, we could probably continue getting together, but otherwise, we
will probably try to figure out how to make "pod dancing" work - that is,
dancing at home with a small group of clearly vaccinated and boostered
friends. If we could get a handful of "pod groups" to broadcast on Zoom, we
might even start thinking they're fun!

M
E

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:51 AM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi caller friends,
>
> I’m the president of Toronto Contra Dance and we’re about to survey our
> membership about when they’ll feel ready to return to in-person dancing,
> and under what circumstances. We’re expecting that at first dances will be
> vaccinated-only spaces, probably with masks required. But it would be very
> useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that had already begun
> vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do they
> require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten
> sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to
> make to accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for
> verifying vaccination status?)
>
> I had hoped CDSS would be monitoring back-to-in-person dances to inform
> the rest of us how those ventures are going, but as far as I can tell,
> they’re not doing that.
>
> Any information anyone can provide would be most appreciated! Back-channel
> messages welcome! If I’m re-inventing the wheel here, please put me in
> touch with whatever group is looking into this!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Becky Liddle
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[John Sweeney via Contra Callers]

Here is the workshop that the EFDSS ran, giving the UK experience of getting 
back to dancing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVsQoYzROp8

Happy dancing,  
   John 

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http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music Ceilidhs 
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent   
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers]

   We certainly realize that and have nothing planned for the foreseeable 
future.  Maybe next year.  I was just reporting on what has been taking place 
here locally (central Illinois) this past year as requested.

Jonathan

On 10/15/2021 9:18 PM, Woody Lane via Contra Callers wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

Here's the thing: your local English group held dances in the late spring and 
summer. But I would contend that their experiences are not a good 
representation of the current situation. The Delta variant began its surge in 
midsummer and that has changed the risk equation. The Delta variant is at least 
twice as transmissible than the previous variants, and it increasingly infects 
younger people more extensively than previous variants. And younger people get 
sicker than with the earlier variants. We also know that vaccinated people can 
still transmit this virus, albeit at lower levels than nonvaccinated folks. 
Nonetheless there is a continued and disturbing occurrence of breakthrough 
cases.

Current regulations with crowds are based on typical crowd situations -- 
sporting events, rallies, classrooms, concerts, etc. But how much good data is 
available for crowds that are actively moving together in a closed room, who 
are touching and holding each other and changing partners frequently, who may 
be breathing harder and are breathing close together even with masks?

I love to dance, but I am very cautious. Both for myself and for any groups I 
organize. Perhaps the booster vaccines, the increased availability of rapid 
testing, the vaccination of young children, and the new antiviral drugs will 
make a big difference. I certainly hope so. Meanwhile, I prefer to wait.

Best,
Woody
Roseburg, Oregon


On 10/15/2021 5:27 PM, Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers wrote:

  Our local contra dance group has not started dancing again.  In June and early July we were 
discussing starting again in the fall and trying to figure out how that would work.  It was likely 
going to be for vaccinated only, but wearing masks seems less useful when you are in physical 
contact with a large group of people.  However, the Delta surge has made us put all these plans on 
hold.  I'm not sure what conditions will need to be in order to start up again.  Certainly I think 
we would want to wait until the transmission level is below "High".  Whether we need to 
wait for it to be "Low" I don't know.

 However, our local English group did hold 3 dances in the late spring and 
summer.  These were for fully vaccinated dancers (and band members).  They were 
held outdoors and everyone wore masks (except the woodwind player in the band). 
 Under those circumstances we felt comfortable enough to do some dancing.  We 
didn't have any negative occurrences.  We didn't specifically slow things down 
due to masks, but we did go a bit slower since it had been over a year since 
any of us had been dancing.  Whether that made a difference with the masks or 
not I can't say.

Jonathan

On 10/15/2021 7:14 PM, Greenleaf via Contra Callers wrote:

Those of you who are sponsoring live contra events, can you answer Becky’s 
other question:

"But it would be very useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that 
had already begun vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do 
they require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten sick? 
What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to make to 
accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for verifying vaccination 
status?)”

For many of us, it’s the mechanics of Covid regulations that are tricky.

Thanks,

Lisa Greenleaf




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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Woody Lane via Contra Callers]

Hi Jonathan,

Here's the thing: your local English group held dances in the late spring and 
summer. But I would contend that their experiences are not a good 
representation of the current situation. The Delta variant began its surge in 
midsummer and that has changed the risk equation. The Delta variant is at least 
twice as transmissible than the previous variants, and it increasingly infects 
younger people more extensively than previous variants. And younger people get 
sicker than with the earlier variants. We also know that vaccinated people can 
still transmit this virus, albeit at lower levels than nonvaccinated folks. 
Nonetheless there is a continued and disturbing occurrence of breakthrough 
cases.

Current regulations with crowds are based on typical crowd situations -- 
sporting events, rallies, classrooms, concerts, etc. But how much good data is 
available for crowds that are actively moving together in a closed room, who 
are touching and holding each other and changing partners frequently, who may 
be breathing harder and are breathing close together even with masks?

I love to dance, but I am very cautious. Both for myself and for any groups I 
organize. Perhaps the booster vaccines, the increased availability of rapid 
testing, the vaccination of young children, and the new antiviral drugs will 
make a big difference. I certainly hope so. Meanwhile, I prefer to wait.

Best,
Woody
Roseburg, Oregon


On 10/15/2021 5:27 PM, Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers wrote:

 Our local contra dance group has not started dancing again.  In June and 
early July we were discussing starting again in the fall and trying to figure 
out how that would work.  It was likely going to be for vaccinated only, but 
wearing masks seems less useful when you are in physical contact with a large 
group of people.  However, the Delta surge has made us put all these plans on 
hold.  I'm not sure what conditions will need to be in order to start up again. 
 Certainly I think we would want to wait until the transmission level is below 
"High".  Whether we need to wait for it to be "Low" I don't know.

However, our local English group did hold 3 dances in the late spring and 
summer.  These were for fully vaccinated dancers (and band members).  They were 
held outdoors and everyone wore masks (except the woodwind player in the band). 
 Under those circumstances we felt comfortable enough to do some dancing.  We 
didn't have any negative occurrences.  We didn't specifically slow things down 
due to masks, but we did go a bit slower since it had been over a year since 
any of us had been dancing.  Whether that made a difference with the masks or 
not I can't say.

Jonathan

On 10/15/2021 7:14 PM, Greenleaf via Contra Callers wrote:


Those of you who are sponsoring live contra events, can you answer Becky’s 
other question:

"But it would be very useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that 
had already begun vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. 
(Do they require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone 
gotten sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed 
to make to accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for 
verifying vaccination status?)”

For many of us, it’s the mechanics of Covid regulations that are tricky.

Thanks,

Lisa Greenleaf



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[Ben Werner via Contra Callers]

Hi, 

CFOOTMAD in Colorado started a while ago. Vaccinated only + masks.

https://cfootmad.org/

Cheers,
Ben 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 6:27 PM, Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Our local contra dance group has not started dancing again.  In June and 
> early July we were discussing starting again in the fall and trying to figure 
> out how that would work.  It was likely going to be for vaccinated only, but 
> wearing masks seems less useful when you are in physical contact with a large 
> group of people.  However, the Delta surge has made us put all these plans on 
> hold.  I'm not sure what conditions will need to be in order to start up 
> again.  Certainly I think we would want to wait until the transmission level 
> is below "High".  Whether we need to wait for it to be "Low" I don't know.
> 
>   However, our local English group did hold 3 dances in the late spring and 
> summer.  These were for fully vaccinated dancers (and band members).  They 
> were held outdoors and everyone wore masks (except the woodwind player in the 
> band).  Under those circumstances we felt comfortable enough to do some 
> dancing.  We didn't have any negative occurrences.  We didn't specifically 
> slow things down due to masks, but we did go a bit slower since it had been 
> over a year since any of us had been dancing.  Whether that made a difference 
> with the masks or not I can't say.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
>> On 10/15/2021 7:14 PM, Greenleaf via Contra Callers wrote:
>> Those of you who are sponsoring live contra events, can you answer Becky’s 
>> other question:
>> "But it would be very useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations 
>> that had already begun vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s 
>> going. (Do they require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has 
>> anyone gotten sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have 
>> they needed to make to accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked 
>> well for verifying vaccination status?)”
>> For many of us, it’s the mechanics of Covid regulations that are tricky.
>> Thanks,
>> Lisa Greenleaf
 On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Elizabeth Bloom Albert via Contra Callers 
 >>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> we are going to one tonite
>>> U of Chicago, Ida Noyes Hall
>>> 
 On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:51 AM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers 
 >>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>Hi caller friends,
>>> 
>>>I’m the president of Toronto Contra Dance and we’re about to survey our 
>>> membership about when they’ll feel ready to return to in-person dancing, 
>>> and under what circumstances. We’re expecting that at first dances will be 
>>> vaccinated-only spaces, probably with masks required. But it would be very 
>>> useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that had already begun 
>>> vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do they 
>>> require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten 
>>> sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to 
>>> make to accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for 
>>> verifying vaccination status?)
>>> 
>>>I had hoped CDSS would be monitoring back-to-in-person dances to inform 
>>> the rest of us how those ventures are going, but as far as I can tell, 
>>> they’re not doing that.
>>> 
>>>Any information anyone can provide would be most appreciated! 
>>> Back-channel messages welcome! If I’m re-inventing the wheel here, please 
>>> put me in touch with whatever group is looking into this!
>>> 
>>>Thanks!
>>> 
>>>Becky Liddle
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On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 5:27 PM Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

>  Our local contra dance group has not started dancing again.  In June
> and early July we were discussing starting again in the fall and trying to
> figure out how that would work.  It was likely going to be for vaccinated
> only, but wearing masks seems less useful when you are in physical contact
> with a large group of people.  However, the Delta surge has made us put all
> these plans on hold.  I'm not sure what conditions will need to be in order
> to start up again.  Certainly I think we would want to wait until the
> transmission level is below "High".  Whether we need to wait for it to be
> "Low" I don't know.
>
> However, our local English group did hold 3 dances in the late spring
> and summer.  These were for fully vaccinated dancers (and band members).
> They were held outdoors and everyone wore masks (except the woodwind player
> in the band).  Under those circumstances we felt comfortable enough to do
> some dancing.  We didn't have any negative occurrences.  We didn't
> specifically slow things down due to masks, but we did go a bit slower
> since it had been over a year since any of us had been dancing.  Whether
> that made a difference with the masks or not I can't say.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 10/15/2021 7:14 PM, Greenleaf via Contra Callers wrote:
> > Those of you who are sponsoring live contra events, can you answer
> Becky’s other question:
> >
> > "But it would be very useful to us if we knew of other dance
> organizations that had already begun vaccinated-only dances, so we could
> learn how that’s going. (Do they require masks? Can people enjoy the dance
> with masks? Has anyone gotten sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down
> the music, have they needed to make to accommodate mask-wearing? What
> systems have worked well for verifying vaccination status?)”
> >
> > For many of us, it’s the mechanics of Covid regulations that are tricky.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lisa Greenleaf
> >
> >> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Elizabeth Bloom Albert via Contra Callers
>  contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >> we are going to one tonite
> >> U of Chicago, Ida Noyes Hall
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:51 AM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers <
> contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net  contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi caller friends,
> >>
> >> I’m the president of Toronto Contra Dance and we’re about to survey
> our membership about when they’ll feel ready to return to in-person
> dancing, and under what circumstances. We’re expecting that at first dances
> will be vaccinated-only spaces, probably with masks required. But it would
> be very useful to 

[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Jonathan Sivier via Contra Callers]

Our local contra dance group has not started dancing again.  In June and early July we were 
discussing starting again in the fall and trying to figure out how that would work.  It was likely 
going to be for vaccinated only, but wearing masks seems less useful when you are in physical 
contact with a large group of people.  However, the Delta surge has made us put all these plans on 
hold.  I'm not sure what conditions will need to be in order to start up again.  Certainly I think 
we would want to wait until the transmission level is below "High".  Whether we need to 
wait for it to be "Low" I don't know.

   However, our local English group did hold 3 dances in the late spring and 
summer.  These were for fully vaccinated dancers (and band members).  They were 
held outdoors and everyone wore masks (except the woodwind player in the band). 
 Under those circumstances we felt comfortable enough to do some dancing.  We 
didn't have any negative occurrences.  We didn't specifically slow things down 
due to masks, but we did go a bit slower since it had been over a year since 
any of us had been dancing.  Whether that made a difference with the masks or 
not I can't say.

Jonathan

On 10/15/2021 7:14 PM, Greenleaf via Contra Callers wrote:

Those of you who are sponsoring live contra events, can you answer Becky’s 
other question:

"But it would be very useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that 
had already begun vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do 
they require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten sick? 
What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to make to 
accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for verifying vaccination 
status?)”

For many of us, it’s the mechanics of Covid regulations that are tricky.

Thanks,

Lisa Greenleaf


On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Elizabeth Bloom Albert via Contra Callers 
mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:

we are going to one tonite
U of Chicago, Ida Noyes Hall

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:51 AM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers 
mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:

Hi caller friends,

I’m the president of Toronto Contra Dance and we’re about to survey our 
membership about when they’ll feel ready to return to in-person dancing, and 
under what circumstances. We’re expecting that at first dances will be 
vaccinated-only spaces, probably with masks required. But it would be very 
useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that had already begun 
vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do they require 
masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten sick? What 
adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to make to 
accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for verifying 
vaccination status?)

I had hoped CDSS would be monitoring back-to-in-person dances to inform the 
rest of us how those ventures are going, but as far as I can tell, they’re not 
doing that.

Any information anyone can provide would be most appreciated! Back-channel 
messages welcome! If I’m re-inventing the wheel here, please put me in touch 
with whatever group is looking into this!

Thanks!

Becky Liddle
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Greenleaf via Contra Callers]

Those of you who are sponsoring live contra events, can you answer Becky’s 
other question:

"But it would be very useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that 
had already begun vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. 
(Do they require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone 
gotten sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed 
to make to accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for 
verifying vaccination status?)”

For many of us, it’s the mechanics of Covid regulations that are tricky.

Thanks,

Lisa Greenleaf

> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Elizabeth Bloom Albert via Contra Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> we are going to one tonite
> U of Chicago, Ida Noyes Hall
> 
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:51 AM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers 
>  > wrote:
> Hi caller friends,
> 
> I’m the president of Toronto Contra Dance and we’re about to survey our 
> membership about when they’ll feel ready to return to in-person dancing, and 
> under what circumstances. We’re expecting that at first dances will be 
> vaccinated-only spaces, probably with masks required. But it would be very 
> useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that had already begun 
> vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do they require 
> masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten sick? What 
> adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to make to 
> accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for verifying 
> vaccination status?) 
> 
> I had hoped CDSS would be monitoring back-to-in-person dances to inform the 
> rest of us how those ventures are going, but as far as I can tell, they’re 
> not doing that.
> 
> Any information anyone can provide would be most appreciated! Back-channel 
> messages welcome! If I’m re-inventing the wheel here, please put me in touch 
> with whatever group is looking into this!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Becky Liddle
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Elizabeth Bloom Albert via Contra Callers]

we are going to one tonite
U of Chicago, Ida Noyes Hall

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:51 AM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi caller friends,
>
> I’m the president of Toronto Contra Dance and we’re about to survey our
> membership about when they’ll feel ready to return to in-person dancing,
> and under what circumstances. We’re expecting that at first dances will be
> vaccinated-only spaces, probably with masks required. But it would be very
> useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that had already begun
> vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do they
> require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten
> sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to
> make to accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for
> verifying vaccination status?)
>
> I had hoped CDSS would be monitoring back-to-in-person dances to inform
> the rest of us how those ventures are going, but as far as I can tell,
> they’re not doing that.
>
> Any information anyone can provide would be most appreciated! Back-channel
> messages welcome! If I’m re-inventing the wheel here, please put me in
> touch with whatever group is looking into this!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Becky Liddle
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Marie-Michèle Fournier via Contra Callers]

Make sure you contact public health to know what's allowed. I believe in
Quebec the rules are max 25 people in the room, masked, 2 meters between
couples. At least that's how the only event I'm aware of operates (West
Coast Swing, not contra). Rules are likely different in Ontario but it's
worth checking.
As you can imagine, contra is not possible under the Quebec rules and we
would lose too much money with only 25 people anyway so we'll wait until
the rules are more appropriate
Marie
ContraMontreal

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:51 AM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi caller friends,
>
> I’m the president of Toronto Contra Dance and we’re about to survey our
> membership about when they’ll feel ready to return to in-person dancing,
> and under what circumstances. We’re expecting that at first dances will be
> vaccinated-only spaces, probably with masks required. But it would be very
> useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that had already begun
> vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do they
> require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten
> sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to
> make to accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for
> verifying vaccination status?)
>
> I had hoped CDSS would be monitoring back-to-in-person dances to inform
> the rest of us how those ventures are going, but as far as I can tell,
> they’re not doing that.
>
> Any information anyone can provide would be most appreciated! Back-channel
> messages welcome! If I’m re-inventing the wheel here, please put me in
> touch with whatever group is looking into this!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Becky Liddle
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Amy Cann via Contra Callers]

I can tell you that the tourist-y Open Farm / Harvest Fest / Pumpkin
Days haybaler gigs are up and running in VT/NH.

On 10/15/21, Ridge Kennedy via Contra Callers
 wrote:
> Bethlehem PA is starting in November.
>
> https://valleycontradance.org/
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:51 AM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers <
> contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi caller friends,
>>
>> I’m the president of Toronto Contra Dance and we’re about to survey our
>> membership about when they’ll feel ready to return to in-person dancing,
>> and under what circumstances. We’re expecting that at first dances will
>> be
>> vaccinated-only spaces, probably with masks required. But it would be
>> very
>> useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that had already
>> begun
>> vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do they
>> require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten
>> sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to
>> make to accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for
>> verifying vaccination status?)
>>
>> I had hoped CDSS would be monitoring back-to-in-person dances to inform
>> the rest of us how those ventures are going, but as far as I can tell,
>> they’re not doing that.
>>
>> Any information anyone can provide would be most appreciated!
>> Back-channel
>> messages welcome! If I’m re-inventing the wheel here, please put me in
>> touch with whatever group is looking into this!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Becky Liddle
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[Callers] Re: Does anybody know of active vaccinated-only, in-person contra dances?

[Ridge Kennedy via Contra Callers]

Bethlehem PA is starting in November.

https://valleycontradance.org/

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:51 AM Becky Liddle via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi caller friends,
>
> I’m the president of Toronto Contra Dance and we’re about to survey our
> membership about when they’ll feel ready to return to in-person dancing,
> and under what circumstances. We’re expecting that at first dances will be
> vaccinated-only spaces, probably with masks required. But it would be very
> useful to us if we knew of other dance organizations that had already begun
> vaccinated-only dances, so we could learn how that’s going. (Do they
> require masks? Can people enjoy the dance with masks? Has anyone gotten
> sick? What adaptations, e.g., slowing down the music, have they needed to
> make to accommodate mask-wearing? What systems have worked well for
> verifying vaccination status?)
>
> I had hoped CDSS would be monitoring back-to-in-person dances to inform
> the rest of us how those ventures are going, but as far as I can tell,
> they’re not doing that.
>
> Any information anyone can provide would be most appreciated! Back-channel
> messages welcome! If I’m re-inventing the wheel here, please put me in
> touch with whatever group is looking into this!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Becky Liddle
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