Re: [Cooker] Thank you!
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 03:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please see the attached file for details. i'd read what you said if it weren't for the fact that it was in an attachment. how bout doing that plain text? -- illogic out --- $ partimage -od -f1 -j9 save /dev/hda1 /mnt/stuff/mdk91.bak gpg key at http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/obennett/slicker/key.asc rpms available @ ftp://uhaweb.hartford.edu/obennett/rpms
Re: [Cooker] Monitor unexpectedly turns off
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 04:16 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday September 9 2003 09:50 am, Jure Repinc wrote: John Allen wrote: Do you have an AMD CPU?? Yup, AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1200 MHz on Abit KT7A-RAID. If so try adding mem=nopentium to your lilo append Hm what exactly does this do? I never had this problem before and in Windows it also never does this. Is it something new in Mandrake 9.2? I've experienced this problem too. Screen goes black, the monitor acts like it's off. I believe it's hardware related. A few weeks ago I re-built my system, XP 3000+ overclocked on a Aopen AK77-440/Max. It'll run at 2.4+ ghz (2.166 is default) except when usin X. Then anything over 2.333, various combos of multiplier'n FSB, no matter the over voltage, will cause X to act like the screen has suspended every once in a while. Usually under high load. A reboot isn't required, after a while pressing Ctrl, even Ctrl+Alt+BSpace will bring up a password dialog box. Enter user_password an the X screen comes right back. I tried 'mem=nopentium' in lilo, with no positive effect. At 2.4 Ghz it'll run memtest86 overnite with -0- errors, or mprime-17 for hours without fault. Just not X. My solution, don't clock much over 2.3Ghz. I suspect John's symptom is hardware related too. Probly an under voltaged video card, or too much heat. At least that's what I reckon my deal is when I push nVidia junk too far. i get this too sometimes. I have a AMD athlon 2000+ *under*clocked to 1800+. With me though it doesn't go out while typing but while the screensaver mode is on. -- illogic out --- $ partimage -od -f1 -j9 save /dev/hda1 /mnt/stuff/mdk91.bak
Re: [Cooker] Shockwave flash player with Mozilla 1.4
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 10:42 am, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:07, Robert Fox wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:33, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:48:44 +0200, Robert Fox wrote: I've tried this on several machines. I can't get Mozilla 1.4 to see the flash plugins - what am I doing wrong here? [EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ ll /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins/ total 1461 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 856 Sep 9 14:28 flashplayer.xpt* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 57 Sep 9 14:13 javaplugin_oji.so - /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1470464 Sep 9 14:28 libflashplayer.so* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root20240 Sep 5 20:12 libnullplugin.so* Install libstdc++2.10 IT WORKS!!! Yipee! Not a very obvious one though . . . It would have been if you'd followed standard debugging procedure and launched from the console. If you do that without libstdc++2.10 installed it tells you what library it's looking for and not finding, and a simple urpmf tells you what package that library is in. not everyone knows SDP and not everyone remembers all the time. -- illogic out --- $ partimage -od -f1 -j9 save /dev/hda1 /mnt/stuff/mdk91.bak
Re: [Cooker] Lisa service is crazy and slows down the system
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 03:32 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buchan Milne wrote: Sorry, but this is one feature that I really can't see is worthwhile disabling if there is any way to fix it, and so far only 2 people have had issues with it (but I have had almost no feedback from others ... so I assume it's working as well for everyone else as for me). BTW, this is what I mean by working well: http://www.cae.sun.ac.za/~bgmilne/mandrake/screenshots/mandrake-cooker-9.2- network-browsing.png (atlas is a win2k server) Bloody awesome, i'd forgotten that was possible since it's only ever worked once in my life. In 9.1 and before, I couldn't browse down that far reliably, but I can now. I will test with samba3-client only installed against win2k3 (which should work, smbclient works, whereas the one from samba-client doesn't). http://www.cae.sun.ac.za/~bgmilne/mandrake/screenshots/mandrake-cooker-9.2- network-browsing2.png (bgmilne is my cooker desktop, obviously running samba, ssh, proftpd and nfslock). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/XirirJK6UGDSBKcRArNGAJ0WyNBs1aybderM9Y03gSyBNXIbmwCghqyH ons1V+Eh/ZSAewxkjNEvLHw= =OsaV -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. * -- illogic out --- $ partimage -od -f1 -j9 save /dev/hda1 /mnt/stuff/mdk91.bak gpg key at http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/obennett/slicker/key.asc rpms available @ ftp://uhaweb.hartford.edu/obennett/rpms
[Cooker] Lisa is crazy !! Bug 5244
Quoting Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This has been in effect since just after the release of 9.1 (the init script in 9.1 was mangled). You should have reported this much much earlier! Except that my configuration has changed recently ! I bought an ADSL router that I use as a DHCP server too. My LAN is now at 10.0.0.0/8, the same than the person who reported the bug 5244. And I did not notice this problem with 9.1, since I used a RTC modem. Moreover, I reported it in bug 4337 at the end of July ! Don't tell me I waited for the last minute ! I have the same problem on a laptop at the university, which is on a LAN of class B (/16 ?) So I guess the problem is the fact I don't use a /24 subnet. I don't blame you, I understand you cannot test every configuration. However, I report what I observe just after a plain install that I did on purpose :) I understand this may be difficult to solve, but I am not a programmer nor a specialist in networking. I have reported the suggestions you said in the Bugzilla bug page. I cannot diagnose the problem. I am open to any new test though. Regards Eric
[Cooker] RapidSVN in the cooker crashes
Does RapidSVN rapidsvn-0.3.0-1mdk from the cooker work for somebody? If I add repository it will appear in the tree under workbench. But if I then click a just added repository rapidsvn will crash to segfault. Mika
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4495] [Installation] basesystem package not selected
[sam] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4495 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-09 21:46 --- RC2 has this bug as well.. Still... This sucks,. Does the ftp server has synthesis files available in Mandrake/base (present and permissions OK?) -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] RapidSVN in the cooker crashes
onsdagen den 10 september 2003 08.37 skrev lamikr_mdk: Does RapidSVN rapidsvn-0.3.0-1mdk from the cooker work for somebody? If I add repository it will appear in the tree under workbench. But if I then click a just added repository rapidsvn will crash to segfault. I tried to build it against subversion 0-29.0 but was unsuccessfull, maybe Ben Reser is working on it? I asked him to be the maintainer of this one as well. -- Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com
Re: [Cooker] Epiphany is now the default GNOME web browser
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:09:00 -0500, Steve Fox wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 02:39, John Keller wrote: Epiphany was chosen sometime before 2 July: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-July/msg00016.html Epiphany might be gnome default in Mdk 10, but not before: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5018 I guess I didn't make myself clear. I know GNOME has selected Epiphany to be the default, but Frederic stated that Galeon will remain the default for Mandrake. My comment was that in a recent Cooker update, my default was forced to be Epiphany. Frederic needs to possibly hack whatever package controls that, so that MDK 9.2 will default to Galeon. Arggg.. The patch to fix that in libgnome didn't apply correctly :(( Fixing.. Next time, be more vocal or file a bug report :)) -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] xscreensaver requires
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:40:47 +0100, Crispin Boylan wrote: Hi xscreensaver has requires on chbg - but this is not needed anymore can it be fixed? It is needed for gdadou, Mdk default XScreensaver... -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:42:35 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: --Boundary-00=_7NnX/X52/y/fqgt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Here are two patches for bash completion. The first one provides those mighty improvments for urpmi (and friends) completion: - ligthning-fast package completion using latest urpmi pre-generated package lists - avoid querying database when word to complete is clearly a file - up-to-date option list - some minor forgotten completion fixed The second one fixes some problems with service completion, such as trying to complete past the 3rd word, or completing to non-service files as /etc/init.d/function. Please test, and if no serious bug is found, i'll happily commit those patches to bash-completion package. BTW, could you fix bash-completion so : gendiff foobar-x.y | bzip2 -c [TAB] will allow TAB to use ANY (or at least .bz2) file for this redirection. Thanks :) -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
[Cooker] Re: xscreensaver requires
Am Dienstag, 9. September 2003, 22:40:47 Uhr MET, schrieb Crispin Boylan: xscreensaver has requires on chbg - but this is not needed anymore can it be fixed? I see. The old xscreensaver-getimage was a script that called chbg, right? The new one is a C program based on gdk_pixbuf. I'd upload a new package, but the distribution is in a freeze, so I'll have to check it with the maintainers. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] xscreensaver requires
Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2003, 09:43:18 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat: On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:40:47 +0100, Crispin Boylan wrote: xscreensaver has requires on chbg - but this is not needed anymore can it be fixed? It is needed for gdadou, Mdk default XScreensaver... OK, forget my other mail. Someone must have used my computer when I was in the bath room :-) -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2003, 02:42:35 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: The first one provides those mighty improvments for urpmi (and friends) completion: - ligthning-fast package completion using latest urpmi pre-generated package Impressive, it's so fast. It would be nice if this would be included in 9.2. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Guillaume Rousse wrote: COMPREPLY=( $( compgen -W '-a -p -P -y -s -q -v -h --help \ - --update --media --excludemedia --sortmedia \ - --synthesis --auto --auto-select --fuzzy --src \ - --install-src --clean --noclean --force \ - --allow-nodeps --allow-force --parallel --wget --curl \ - --limit-rate --proxy --proxy-user --bug --env \ - --X --best-output --verify-rpm --test --excludepath' \ - -- $cur ) ) + --update --media --excludemedia --sortmedia --synthesis \ + --auto --auto-select --no-uninstall --keep --split-level \ + --split-length --fuzzy --src --install-src --clean \ + --noclean --force --allow-nodeps --allow-force --parallel \ + --wget --curl --limit-rate --proxy --proxy-user --bug \ + --env --X --best-output --verify-rpm --test --excludepath \ + --excludedocs ' -- $cur ) ) please add --no-verify-rpm which is quite handy for contribs :)
Re: [Cooker] Thank you!
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 01:55:36AM -0400, jokerman64 wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 03:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please see the attached file for details. i'd read what you said if it weren't for the fact that it was in an attachment. how bout doing that plain text? Please, my antivirus software (postfix/amavisd-new/clamd) running on a mandrake box (small plug) would have spared me from this, if only you didn't bother repliyng to that junk. L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Lisa is crazy !! Bug 5244
I just made a fresh install of RC2 in the university, and this problem does not occur. The mask is 255.255.255.0 here. Note that in console, stopping lisa with service lisa stop works once, not twice like on the machine I had problems. Hope this helps. Eric
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2003, 02:42:35 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: The first one provides those mighty improvments for urpmi (and friends) completion: - ligthning-fast package completion using latest urpmi pre-generated package Impressive, it's so fast. It would be nice if this would be included in 9.2. Guillaume, you have done a good job so ;-) François.
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2003, 10:54:25 Uhr MET, schrieb François Pons: Impressive, it's so fast. It would be nice if this would be included in 9.2. Guillaume, you have done a good job so ;-) François, I'd like to thank you too for the urpmi improvements that made this possible. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2003, 10:54:25 Uhr MET, schrieb François Pons: Impressive, it's so fast. It would be nice if this would be included in 9.2. Guillaume, you have done a good job so ;-) François, I'd like to thank you too for the urpmi improvements that made this possible. Yes, but thanks Guillaume first, he told me this improvement for ages and I only have done them recently... François.
Re: [Cooker] resigning pending
Frank Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Warly wrote: For rc2, but there should not be many packages unsigned. You might want to spell that re-signing to avoid scaring the hell out of us :) -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?
Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it's in contrib, there is an alternative in main = what's the problem? The problem is while I'm a Mandrake monkey and can handle the misisng package other SA's who just want a fully shipped distro don't want to have to 1) ask for it 2) look for it 3) get it 4) install it. They want basic things like nfs-network browsing to WORK out of the box we CANNOT do that on mandrake as it ships. I have to add this as an add-on post-install. Also, since I added it make the list of crap I have to watch for security related problems bigger. [...] am-utils, as said, stil live into contribs, but if some kind of popular vote ask for it back into main, so be it. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Warly wrote: Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it's in contrib, there is an alternative in main = what's the problem? The problem is while I'm a Mandrake monkey and can handle the misisng package other SA's who just want a fully shipped distro don't want to have to 1) ask for it 2) look for it 3) get it 4) install it. They want basic things like nfs-network browsing to WORK out of the box we CANNOT do that on mandrake as it ships. I have to add this as an add-on post-install. Also, since I added it make the list of crap I have to watch for security related problems bigger. [...] am-utils, as said, stil live into contribs, but if some kind of popular vote ask for it back into main, so be it. I think we resolved that am-utils doesn't have any features that autofs doesn't (unless there is some other evidence). So, I think it's safe to leave am-utils in contrib? Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/Xuz2rJK6UGDSBKcRAoZZAJ0Uq9+kTkevzDNyknjWPLVnUKEeLACfXvOA SQgLO3/CO3aHMScbveubbQk= =3r4A -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?
Le Mercredi 10 Septembre 2003 11:12, Warly a écrit : [...] am-utils, as said, stil live into contribs, but if some kind of popular vote ask for it back into main, so be it. And first you removed it, I reintroduce it in contrib myself... The story of an obsoletes application... :) -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
[Cooker] How to disable suspend on low battery
Hi! Starting with Mdk 9.2 test releases, on a laptop (Thinkpad A21e) there is a cool feature: when the batery runs below a critical level, suspend to disk is automatically performed. However, I couldn't locate any documentation on how this is achieved and how can I configure that. The PM system in use is APM, not ACPI. It seems independent of apmd, though, since when I stop the apmd service (in fact, when I stop all the services and can see only kernel processes and getty and my shell) it still works. Messing with suspend-scripts doesn't help too. I highly suspect that the kernel apmd (kapmd) does this stuff, but I cannot find any docs on kapmd on Google :( I want to find a way to disable automatic suspend, but still be able to check battery status with the apm command. I need this because I want to profile my battery: I previously discharged my battery while logging its characteristics over time (remaining charge/timestamp) until it went completely dead. I were stopping all services and mounting the ext3 filesystem with sync option to avoid filesystem corruption and get all log entries up to complete discharge. Automatic suspend is launched long before the battery discharges completely. Best regards, -- Aleksander Adamowski Jabber JID (to nie e-mail!): [EMAIL PROTECTED] GG#: 274614 ICQ UIN: 19780575 http://olo.office.altkom.com.pl
[Cooker] RC 2 comments
After having posted severals comments on beta 1 (i had many troubles with RC1 and no time to report correctly) i can say that for RC2 almost all of them have been resolved and the OpenOffice automatic selection for dictionnary is wonderfull ! Very good job, i think i can close my report list, i'll go deeper but for me RC2 == final ! Stef -- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Horde suite
Guillaume Rousse ha scritto: I just rewieved the whole horde suite: - horde2 - imp3 - turba - chora It seems old imp 1 or 2 are no longer around, while there is still old horde-nag 1. Could we nuke it, and turn horde2 to horde and imp3 to imp ? yes. BTW, i found the ADVX macros very useful. Why are those macros in /usr/share/ADVX, and not integrated among standard rpm macros ? I also found most private directories are both protected by the in apache config file, and by a local .htaccess in the directory. Isn't this a bit redundant. Melius est abundare quam deficere!
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: [Contrib-Rpm] imp3-3.2.2-1mdk
Ainsi parlait David Walser : Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait David Walser : Guillaume Rousse wrote: [Contrib-RPM] Name: imp3 Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 3.2.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Mon 08 Sep 2003 10:46:41 PM CEST -=-=-=- - drop ugly configuration scripts, perl rulez Well that's fine, but part of the point before was, the script was included with the package, so if the user changed their hostname later on, they could run the script again and have their config be right again. Do the same with your perl script. All the script was doing was to replace localhost.localdomain by the correct values in a config file, using two scripts, a shell one and a awk one. It tooks me almost 10 minutes to understand it, whereas a single one-liner in perl could do in one single place. Moreover, i don't see the point of adding aditional code, meaning potential security and maintainance issues, for such a trivial task, especially for what is supposed to be a server. Either you write a complete configuration wizard, and install it elsewhere in the filesystem, either you just takes cares of it in post-install configuration step. Security and Maintainance issues? That's absolutely ridiculous. Wasting ten minutes to figure that something included was quite useless is an issue. I hate this. Yes your line of code takes care of it in the post-install configuration step, but let me re-iterate, what if the user changes their hostname *after the package is installed.* They will need to run that line of code again. Install it as a script like was done before. Someone changing hist hostname will have more than imp to reconfigure IMHO. Are you proposing we add two script to each of those applications just for this ? Or that we add x others scripts to help clueless user to change x others settings in imp configuration ? My point remain the same: either you provide a full configuration wizard, you document it as mdk-specific, and you install it elsewhere as under the webroot. Or you just do minor post-install configuration. BTW, this is a server, not a joe-user multimedia application. Admins are supposed to be able to configure what they install. -- The only perfect science is hindsight -- Murphy's Laws on Technology n°14
[Cooker] Re: Enlarge your bash completion experience
Frederic Crozat wrote: BTW, could you fix bash-completion so : gendiff foobar-x.y | bzip2 -c [TAB] will allow TAB to use ANY (or at least .bz2) file for this redirection. Thanks :) Well if he's gonna do some more hacking/bugfixing on bash-completion, here's another one that doesn't complete currently: mpg321 -@ foo.m3u ogg123 -@ foo.m3u
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 03:09, jokerman64 wrote: OK, so here i am after p-chem lab and i open my mail and get the new updated mandrake club website mail. So i go and check it out, kinda excited to see if it's worthy of me now so that i can join and I see that it's still the same crappy site. lemme explain: 1. The fonts suck! 2. The fonts are sh*te 3. The fonts on all the mandrake site suck @$$. Yes, that is my one and only complaint. You see i don't care so much how things work if i'm not going to use them a lot as much as I care about how they look. Agree 100%, assuming this means the site still has Helvetica set as its preferred font. We've spent years in the distro fixing the reliance on this ass-ugly piece of bitmap crap, so why does the website of the damn distro want to use it?! Since we now have such lovely fonts in Mandrake, the website should have the default font set as sans, so it actually looks half acceptable. Sites that default to Helvetica bug me so much I've actually wiped the font from my system (I tried setting up that thing you can do in fonts.conf that make it use Vera in place of Helvetica, but I could never make it work), so now the MDK page looks okay to me, but this is a hack I should NOT have to use. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Epiphany is now the default GNOME web browser
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 04:09, Steve Fox wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 02:39, John Keller wrote: Epiphany was chosen sometime before 2 July: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-July/msg00016.html Epiphany might be gnome default in Mdk 10, but not before: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5018 I guess I didn't make myself clear. I know GNOME has selected Epiphany to be the default, but Frederic stated that Galeon will remain the default for Mandrake. My comment was that in a recent Cooker update, my default was forced to be Epiphany. Frederic needs to possibly hack whatever package controls that, so that MDK 9.2 will default to Galeon. Ahh, I see - in that case, apologies for my reply... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Shockwave flash player with Mozilla 1.4
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 07:23, jokerman64 wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 10:42 am, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:07, Robert Fox wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:33, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:48:44 +0200, Robert Fox wrote: I've tried this on several machines. I can't get Mozilla 1.4 to see the flash plugins - what am I doing wrong here? [EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ ll /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins/ total 1461 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 856 Sep 9 14:28 flashplayer.xpt* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 57 Sep 9 14:13 javaplugin_oji.so - /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1470464 Sep 9 14:28 libflashplayer.so* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root20240 Sep 5 20:12 libnullplugin.so* Install libstdc++2.10 IT WORKS!!! Yipee! Not a very obvious one though . . . It would have been if you'd followed standard debugging procedure and launched from the console. If you do that without libstdc++2.10 installed it tells you what library it's looking for and not finding, and a simple urpmf tells you what package that library is in. not everyone knows SDP and not everyone remembers all the time. Everyone on this list damn well ought to. :) -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] kdevelop and gimpprint bad requires on gimp?
The gimpprint package is only the GIMP plugin for printing (the printing dialog for GIMP). The printer driver called GIMP-Print (mainly used for Epson and Canon inkjets) is in the libgimpprint package. The interface of this driver to GhostScript is ijsgimpprint, which is in the printer-filters package. printerdrake takes care that the ghostscript, printer-filters, and libgimpprint packages are installed. So you do not need to have GIMP installed to use an Epson or Canon inkjet printer. Till Crispin Boylan wrote: Hi is it necessary for gimpprint to require gimp? I thought it would have been the other way around? also, why does kdevelop require gimp? Cheers cris.
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 10:04, François Pons wrote: Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2003, 10:54:25 Uhr MET, schrieb François Pons: Impressive, it's so fast. It would be nice if this would be included in 9.2. Guillaume, you have done a good job so ;-) François, I'd like to thank you too for the urpmi improvements that made this possible. Yes, but thanks Guillaume first, he told me this improvement for ages and I only have done them recently... Ahhfeel the love. GROUP HUG! -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 11:12, Han Boetes wrote: jokerman64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The fonts suck! [ snip: more of the same ] gee Safe this as ~/.fonts.conf: Um. Why the heck should we have to hack our fonts.conf file to workaround your badly setup website? Why not just fix the website? Simply changing the preferred font order to something like sans, verdana, helvetica would work perfectly well. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
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Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 03:09, jokerman64 wrote:
OK, so here i am after p-chem lab and i open my mail and get the new
updated
mandrake club website mail. So i go and check it out, kinda excited
to see
if it's worthy of me now so that i can join and I see that it's
still the
same crappy site. lemme explain:
1. The fonts suck!
2. The fonts are sh*te
3. The fonts on all the mandrake site suck @$$.
Yes, that is my one and only complaint. You see i don't care so much how
things work if i'm not going to use them a lot as much as I care about
how
they look.
Agree 100%, assuming this means the site still has Helvetica set as its
preferred font. We've spent years in the distro fixing the reliance on
this ass-ugly piece of bitmap crap, so why does the website of the damn
distro want to use it?! Since we now have such lovely fonts in Mandrake,
the website should have the default font set as sans, so it actually
looks half acceptable. Sites that default to Helvetica bug me so much
I've actually wiped the font from my system (I tried setting up that
thing you can do in fonts.conf that make it use Vera in place of
Helvetica, but I could never make it work), so now the MDK page looks
okay to me, but this is a hack I should NOT have to use.
AFAIK, MandrakeClub now uses CSS for all style settings, and according
to Denis, doesn't set any fonts (though I will check later), however,
http://www.linux-mandrake.com is full of this junk:
font size=2 face=helvetica, arial, sans-serifbSeptember 9th, 2003
- Mandrake 9.2RC2/b - The second
release-candidate of Mandrake Linux 9.2 is available for download and
tests. Release informations and places to download are available a
href=92beta.php3here/a.
Luckily I override some fonts ...
Please, can someone ensure this is addressed. Helvetica is not a decent
replacement for Arial or sans-serif, and should be listed last, not first.
Ha! I just looked at the CSS on http://www.mandrakeclub.com, and see this:
BODY {
color: #00;
background: #ff;
padding: 5px;
margin: 0px;
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
}
* {
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
}
The same issue applies here, you should use instead:
font-family: arial, sans-serif, helvetica;
Regards,
Buchan
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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] CMF-1.3.0-10mdk
Le Mercredi 10 Septembre 2003 12:21, Sebatien Robin a écrit : -=-=-=- Sebatien Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.3.0-10mdk - change in the spec file '/usr/lib' by /usr/lib -=-=-=- You surelly put %_libdir in changelog, you should put %%_libdir in changelog, else rpm expand it. -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 11:12, Han Boetes wrote: jokerman64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The fonts suck! [ snip: more of the same ] gee Safe this as ~/.fonts.conf: Um. Why the heck should we have to hack our fonts.conf file to workaround your badly setup website? Why not just fix the website? Simply changing the preferred font order to something like sans, verdana, helvetica would work perfectly well. I don't have root on that machine. I only have it on this machine. Besides, this fixes a whole lot of other sites as well. And I don't scold to people to get them to do what I want. I already politely asked about those fonts a long time ago and nobody reacted so solved it for myself. # Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
Re: [Cooker] Postfix vs. Procmail (Was: What happened to am-utils?)
did anyone have time to check the cyrus integration readme and mods i put in this package? Regards, L. On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:22:52PM +0200, Luca Berra wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 03:49:02PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Luca, you should provide ready to use patches for postfix spec, gc would barely reject them i think. http://percy.comedia.it/~bluca/cooker/mail/ I also added a new config and readme for cyrus integration. please check it. The changes to procmail would be more complex, since I assume we don't want procmail to require postfix, so it will need to run postfonf only if postfix is installed (to avoid an error) and run the postconf via triggers if postfix is installed after procmail. I put it in the postfix %post if it finds procmail it will use it, this is consistent with current usage, but has the annoying side-effect of reenabling procmail on every upgrade if i have it installed and i don't want it. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Lisa service is crazy and slows down the system
Le mar 09/09/2003 à 18:54, Buchan Milne a écrit : A working lisa out-the-box is a really nice feature (if I had the time I could find at least 5 reviews where someone complains about it not working in Mandrake, or says it works so well in another distro), and one that Windows has had for 8 years. Plus, current kio_smb works much better (even without building against libsmbclient which we can't do at present). If now nder KDE we have lisa working out of the box ( and the same for windows share access ) why don't we put an icon on Desktop to make it obvious ? I can imagine now the review ( access my windows share was just a matter of a single click as there was a network ) Note : If we put this icon in ~/Desktop, gnome would have to ignore it. I will fill a bug report ...
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 11:42, Han Boetes wrote: Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 11:12, Han Boetes wrote: jokerman64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The fonts suck! [ snip: more of the same ] gee Safe this as ~/.fonts.conf: Um. Why the heck should we have to hack our fonts.conf file to workaround your badly setup website? Why not just fix the website? Simply changing the preferred font order to something like sans, verdana, helvetica would work perfectly well. I don't have root on that machine. I only have it on this machine. Besides, this fixes a whole lot of other sites as well. And I don't scold to people to get them to do what I want. I already politely asked about those fonts a long time ago and nobody reacted so solved it for myself. I didn't mean your as in you personally, Han, I meant you as in Mandrakesoft... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Shockwave flash player with Mozilla 1.4
Le mer 10/09/2003 à 12:15, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 07:23, jokerman64 wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 10:42 am, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:07, Robert Fox wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:33, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:48:44 +0200, Robert Fox wrote: I've tried this on several machines. I can't get Mozilla 1.4 to see the flash plugins - what am I doing wrong here? [EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ ll /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins/ total 1461 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 856 Sep 9 14:28 flashplayer.xpt* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 57 Sep 9 14:13 javaplugin_oji.so - /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1470464 Sep 9 14:28 libflashplayer.so* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root20240 Sep 5 20:12 libnullplugin.so* Install libstdc++2.10 IT WORKS!!! Yipee! Not a very obvious one though . . . It would have been if you'd followed standard debugging procedure and launched from the console. If you do that without libstdc++2.10 installed it tells you what library it's looking for and not finding, and a simple urpmf tells you what package that library is in. not everyone knows SDP and not everyone remembers all the time. Everyone on this list damn well ought to. :) Every user : rpm -ivh blablaflash - problem urpmi blablaflash - asks for libstdc++ and everything works !!! urpmi reflex instead of rpm -i Stef -- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Hd.img installation per Version:200309041022
guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi [...] In FirstTimeWizard there was no KMail only evolution and mozilla, is this a Mdk decission. Do you have kdenetwork-kmail installed ? First Time only displays the mailer if it's installed on your system.
[Cooker] urpmi exits with a bad array ref error
Hi, When upgrading from 9.1 to cooker (after having done urpmi urpmi), I get the following error if I try to urpmi a package : # urpmi libarts1-devel --bug bad_array_ref Can't use string (libm.so) as an ARRAY ref while strict refs in use at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/urpm.pm line 3208. # You can download the bug report directory here : http://www.enseirb.fr/~blino/bad_array_ref.tar.bz2 Some other points about urpmi tools : From urpmf --help : --group- print tag group: group. --size - print tag size: size. [...] From man urpmf : --group Searches through group. --size Searches through size. [...] I guess urpmf --help is the faulty one, it should write search through instead of print in these cases. $ urpmi -q foo skipping package mplayer-0.91-7mdk.i586 skipping package mplayer-skins-1.3-7mdk.noarch skipping package kernel-source-2.4.22-7mdk.i586 skipping package mencoder-0.91-7mdk.i586 skipping package mplayer-gui-0.91-7mdk.i586 skipping package mplayer-fonts-1.0-8mdk.noarch skipping package libfreetype6-2.1.4-6plf.i586 skipping package libfreetype6-static-devel-2.1.4-6plf.i586 skipping package libfreetype6-devel-2.1.4-6plf.i586 [...] When I quiet mode, urpmi shouldn't display the skipped packages. Thanks for your work François :) --- Olivier Blin
Re: [Cooker] Shockwave flash player with Mozilla 1.4
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:09, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le mer 10/09/2003 à 12:15, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 07:23, jokerman64 wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 10:42 am, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:07, Robert Fox wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:33, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:48:44 +0200, Robert Fox wrote: I've tried this on several machines. I can't get Mozilla 1.4 to see the flash plugins - what am I doing wrong here? [EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ ll /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins/ total 1461 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 856 Sep 9 14:28 flashplayer.xpt* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 57 Sep 9 14:13 javaplugin_oji.so - /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1470464 Sep 9 14:28 libflashplayer.so* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root20240 Sep 5 20:12 libnullplugin.so* Install libstdc++2.10 IT WORKS!!! Yipee! Not a very obvious one though . . . It would have been if you'd followed standard debugging procedure and launched from the console. If you do that without libstdc++2.10 installed it tells you what library it's looking for and not finding, and a simple urpmf tells you what package that library is in. not everyone knows SDP and not everyone remembers all the time. Everyone on this list damn well ought to. :) Every user : rpm -ivh blablaflash - problem urpmi blablaflash - asks for libstdc++ and everything works !!! urpmi reflex instead of rpm -i Um, except those of us with no access to the MDK Flash packages...I don't think non-Club members can get them, can they? -- adamw
[Cooker] /etc/init.d/internet
Hi, does anybody know the name of a package which creates /etc/init.d/internet file? rpm -qf returns nothing. Tnx R.V.
Network icon, bugs relating to network browsing (was Re: [Cooker] Lisa service is crazy and slows down the system)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mar 09/09/2003 à 18:54, Buchan Milne a écrit : A working lisa out-the-box is a really nice feature (if I had the time I could find at least 5 reviews where someone complains about it not working in Mandrake, or says it works so well in another distro), and one that Windows has had for 8 years. Plus, current kio_smb works much better (even without building against libsmbclient which we can't do at present). If now nder KDE we have lisa working out of the box ( and the same for windows share access ) why don't we put an icon on Desktop to make it obvious ? We should! I have suggested this to Laurent already, but no response :-(. I can imagine now the review ( access my windows share was just a matter of a single click as there was a network ) Note : If we put this icon in ~/Desktop, gnome would have to ignore it. The problem here is no support for multi-protocol browsing in GNOME, and KDE not working well with the smb:// url GNOME-vfs uses under certain conditions (sub-categories in the KDE LAN browser could help with this). In the meantime, maybe an icon with url of smb:/ which should work in KDE and GNOME? lan:/ works better in KDE in some respects (giving non-samba/windows hosts too), but for now maybe smb:/ is good enough. Note, KDE doesn't like smb:// (it converts it to http://smb. Also, there seem to be some bugs when using smb:/WORKGROUP NAME (smb://WORKGROUP NAME doesn't work, neither does smb:/workgroup name) in KDE, whereas smb://machine-name works fine. I will fill a bug report ... I think after my experiments now, I need to file some more, but there may be complications due to using smbclient instead of libsmbclient support, which I can't investigate now (will have to rebuild samba3, then rebuild kdebase to test this, and I don't have the time now ...). I will mail another report shortly, but it seems safe for now that we can use an icon with smb:/ as url. Fred, Laurent? Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/Xwq/rJK6UGDSBKcRAijNAJ9Ew6bQgAyZqzG1BwecJ/x8WpjFegCghOJX sLALI8PYmjW3JTz5holADi0= =ECOC -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] Shockwave flash player with Mozilla 1.4
Le mer 10/09/2003 à 13:20, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:09, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le mer 10/09/2003 à 12:15, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 07:23, jokerman64 wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 10:42 am, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:07, Robert Fox wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 15:33, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:48:44 +0200, Robert Fox wrote: I've tried this on several machines. I can't get Mozilla 1.4 to see the flash plugins - what am I doing wrong here? [EMAIL PROTECTED] rfox]$ ll /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins/ total 1461 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 856 Sep 9 14:28 flashplayer.xpt* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 57 Sep 9 14:13 javaplugin_oji.so - /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1470464 Sep 9 14:28 libflashplayer.so* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root20240 Sep 5 20:12 libnullplugin.so* Install libstdc++2.10 IT WORKS!!! Yipee! Not a very obvious one though . . . It would have been if you'd followed standard debugging procedure and launched from the console. If you do that without libstdc++2.10 installed it tells you what library it's looking for and not finding, and a simple urpmf tells you what package that library is in. not everyone knows SDP and not everyone remembers all the time. Everyone on this list damn well ought to. :) Every user : rpm -ivh blablaflash - problem urpmi blablaflash - asks for libstdc++ and everything works !!! urpmi reflex instead of rpm -i Um, except those of us with no access to the MDK Flash packages...I don't think non-Club members can get them, can they? I'm not a club member, i got the rpm from macromedia only. Stef -- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] kernel-multimedia should provide kernel == 2.4
Hi I can't upgrade shorewall without removing kernel-multimedia because kernel-multimedia doesn't provide kernel 2.2 # urpmi shorewall The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded: kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.1mm.6mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to conflicts with shorewall-1.4.6c-2mdk.noarch) (y/N) $ urpmf --conflicts shorewall shorewall:kernel[= 2.2] kernel-multimedia does provide kernel, but it isn't versionned : $ urpmf --provides kernel-multimedia [..] kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.1mm.6mdk:kernel [..] Thanks Austin to provide the only kernel that doesn't mess sound with snd-intel8x0 driver. -- Olivier Blin
Re: [Cooker] urpmi exits with a bad array ref error
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:17:05 +0200 Olivier Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When upgrading from 9.1 to cooker (after having done urpmi urpmi), I get the following error if I try to urpmi a package : # urpmi libarts1-devel --bug bad_array_ref Can't use string (libm.so) as an ARRAY ref while strict refs in use at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/urpm.pm line 3208. # You can download the bug report directory here : http://www.enseirb.fr/~blino/bad_array_ref.tar.bz2 Some other points about urpmi tools : From urpmf --help : --group- print tag group: group. --size - print tag size: size. [...] From man urpmf : --group Searches through group. --size Searches through size. [...] I guess urpmf --help is the faulty one, it should write search through instead of print in these cases. $ urpmi -q foo skipping package mplayer-0.91-7mdk.i586 skipping package mplayer-skins-1.3-7mdk.noarch skipping package kernel-source-2.4.22-7mdk.i586 skipping package mencoder-0.91-7mdk.i586 skipping package mplayer-gui-0.91-7mdk.i586 skipping package mplayer-fonts-1.0-8mdk.noarch skipping package libfreetype6-2.1.4-6plf.i586 skipping package libfreetype6-static-devel-2.1.4-6plf.i586 skipping package libfreetype6-devel-2.1.4-6plf.i586 [...] When I quiet mode, urpmi shouldn't display the skipped packages. Thanks for your work François :) update your perl-URPM and make sure you have the latest urpmi too. those two should be required by each other because missing one of the in the right version will break the other.
Re: [Cooker] /etc/init.d/internet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Radek Vybiral wrote: Hi, does anybody know the name of a package which creates /etc/init.d/internet file? rpm -qf returns nothing. $ ll /etc/init.d lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Sep 9 15:38 /etc/init.d - rc.d/init.d/ (thus no files under /etc/init.d are owned by any package, they are owned under /etc/rc.d/init.d) $ rpm -qf /etc/rc.d/init.d/network initscripts-7.06-24mdk Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/XwwBrJK6UGDSBKcRAn+RAKCbUgpLFV8IWsVi/iiV/FORkadqAACePsZI I4sFGlRR4ux15NLvnkhnUT0= =iznI -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] urpmi exits with a bad array ref error
update your perl-URPM and make sure you have the latest urpmi too. those two should be required by each other because missing one of the in the right version will break the other. Hi, I've the latest urpmi and perl-URPM. Regards -- Olivier Blin
Re: [Cooker] Shockwave flash player with Mozilla 1.4
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:28, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Every user : rpm -ivh blablaflash - problem urpmi blablaflash - asks for libstdc++ and everything works !!! urpmi reflex instead of rpm -i Um, except those of us with no access to the MDK Flash packages...I don't think non-Club members can get them, can they? I'm not a club member, i got the rpm from macromedia only. Oh, I don't remember seeing an RPM there when I downloaded it, just the executable installer...ah well. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] /etc/init.d/internet
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Radek Vybiral wrote: Hi, does anybody know the name of a package which creates /etc/init.d/internet file? rpm -qf returns nothing. $ ll /etc/init.d lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Sep 9 15:38 /etc/init.d - rc.d/init.d/ (thus no files under /etc/init.d are owned by any package, they are owned under /etc/rc.d/init.d) $ rpm -qf /etc/rc.d/init.d/network initscripts-7.06-24mdk Sorry, but I'm talking about /etc/rc.d/init.d/internet not network file! R.V.
Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 11:21:25AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bryan Whitehead wrote: Thanks for the kick in the pants. Looks like autofs can do what I need. Looks like this feature slipped in during 9.0 (or 8.2) and I didn't notice. Now if only autofs would support direct mounts we'd be another step closer to Solaris... ;) Could you explain what it is/how it works? direct mounts are denoted in auto.master like: /- auto.direct options and /etc/auto.direct contains the absolute path and mount that belongs to it like: /home mount options server:/local/home whereas indirect mounts list a relative path: auto master: /home auto.home -nosuid auto.home: simon -rw servera:/home/simon * -rw serverb:/local/home/ all entries in auto.home mount under /home (defined in auto.master) Does that help? Actually, I'm rather interested in autofs, because we have a mixed Solaris/Mandrake environment with NIS/NFS. I tried autofs tables via NIS, which worked well, except that a typical user tried to access a shared directory under /home which was suddenly gone/invisible... I don't know how to solve this yet (I want users to see all available mounts under /home) Cheers Simon
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
Le mer 10/09/2003 à 10:35, Buchan Milne a écrit :
AFAIK, MandrakeClub now uses CSS for all style settings, and according
to Denis, doesn't set any fonts (though I will check later), however,
http://www.linux-mandrake.com is full of this junk:
font size=2 face=helvetica, arial, sans-serifbSeptember 9th, 2003
- Mandrake 9.2RC2/b - The second
release-candidate of Mandrake Linux 9.2 is available for download and
tests. Release informations and places to download are available a
href=92beta.php3here/a.
so they don't know how to use css, class, implicite class, etc ... ?
The problem is that many mdk site need to be redesigned.
The only one with a decent design is http://www.mandrakesoft.com others
are crap.
MandrakeClub :
- use others fonts
- remove the index in all language at the right side. The site should
detect the language of the browser and display the right page. If the
user want others languages, it will just click on a flag to see them.
If english version is more up to date that others languages version, yt
should be the only one to be displayed at the right side
- there should have at least 5px spacing between flags and text ( cf
left side with vertical align set to middle :
img
{
border: 0px none transparent;
vertical-align: middle;
margin : 5px;
}
- link should not be underlined and should have a special color with a
color change for hover event, for example :
a:active
{
color: #FF;
background-color: transparent;
text-align: left;
text-decoration: none ;
}
a:visited
{
text-decoration: none ;
text-align: left;
}
a:link
{
text-decoration: none ;
text-align: left;
}
a:hover
{
color: #ff9900 ;
background-color: transparent;
text-decoration: none ;
text-align: left;
}
with gecko engine you can have hover with all elements ( span div
include ). khtml support hover on most element. IE ... only links but
you will not have display problem. So they could remove the onmouseover
event for the menu at the top.
css site :
http://www.csszengarden.com/
http://www.csszengarden.com/tr/francais/
http://glish.com/css/
http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/learning
The same issue applies here, you should use instead:
font-family: arial, sans-serif, helvetica;
you should put Verdana before Arial as Arial sometimes is bolder than
other fonts.
Re: [Cooker] /etc/init.d/internet
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Buchan Milne wrote:
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Radek Vybiral wrote:
Hi,
does anybody know the name of a package which creates
/etc/init.d/internet
file?
rpm -qf returns nothing.
$ ll /etc/init.d
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Sep 9 15:38 /etc/init.d -
rc.d/init.d/
(thus no files under /etc/init.d are owned by any package, they are
owned under /etc/rc.d/init.d)
$ rpm -qf /etc/rc.d/init.d/network
initscripts-7.06-24mdk
Sorry, but I'm talking about /etc/rc.d/init.d/internet not network file!
D'Oh!
It's probably written by drakconnect,
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_{up,down} are also unowned ...
Regards,
Buchan
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[Cooker] Error updating Samba-client
I got this error while updating packages tonight. error: %preun(samba-client-2.2.8a-12mdk) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 What other info can I provide. I don't see any log entries. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] Installing to SATA drives
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 09:25 pm, Jeff Shultz wrote: drive. On the first stage install, it mentions that that hard drive is losing the interrupt frequently as it works it's way through. That's the kind of thing that happens when i/o apic and/or acpi is not working properly. What mobo chipset do you have? Try booting with apic disabled (noapic) and acpi=off -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 14:45, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: The same issue applies here, you should use instead: font-family: arial, sans-serif, helvetica; you should put Verdana before Arial as Arial sometimes is bolder than other fonts. Agreed. Besides, Verdana was expressly designed as a display font, and Arial was expressly designed as a printed output font. Verdana looks way better on screen than Arial, I've no idea why so many Windows users seem to use Arial as a display font... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] urpmi exits with a bad array ref error
Olivier Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Hi Olivier, When upgrading from 9.1 to cooker (after having done urpmi urpmi), I get the following error if I try to urpmi a package : # urpmi libarts1-devel --bug bad_array_ref Can't use string (libm.so) as an ARRAY ref while strict refs in use at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/urpm.pm line 3208. This is a great improvement that I managed to find this problem which already occured but without bug report. Now it is fixed ;-) Thanks Olivier. François.
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are two patches for bash completion. just trying would be awesome to update the zsh completion as well /just trying -- http://www.chmouel.com/
[Cooker] Galeon crashes quite often
Galeon crashes several times a day, always after closing a tab. I can't reproduce it as I may occur or not on the same page... Browsing gnome bugzilla I found nothing related...
Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?
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Simon Oosthoek wrote:
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 11:21:25AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
Bryan Whitehead wrote:
Thanks for the kick in the pants. Looks like autofs can do what I need.
Looks like this feature slipped in during 9.0 (or 8.2) and I didn't
notice.
Now if only autofs would support direct mounts we'd be another step
closer to Solaris... ;)
Could you explain what it is/how it works?
direct mounts are denoted in auto.master like:
/-auto.direct options
and /etc/auto.direct contains the absolute path and mount that belongs
to it
like:
/home mount options server:/local/home
No, this seems to not work ... but maybe the authors could be convinced
to add support for this?
whereas indirect mounts list a relative path:
auto master:
/home auto.home -nosuid
auto.home:
simon -rw servera:/home/simon
* -rw serverb:/local/home/
Hmm, I don't like having a mount per-user, but maybe that's just me, and
maybe security through obscurity is of some value ;-).
all entries in auto.home mount under /home (defined in auto.master)
Does that help?
Yes, I see the value ... but I don't see that I would ever need it ...
Actually, I'm rather interested in autofs, because we have a mixed
Solaris/Mandrake environment with NIS/NFS. I tried autofs tables via NIS,
which worked well, except that a typical user tried to access a shared
directory under /home which was suddenly gone/invisible... I don't know
how to solve this yet (I want users to see all available mounts under
/home)
What we do here is mount our shares under /cae (instead of /home, since
I want access to files on the small local /home directories, and it
seems you can't have a /home map and access files on the real /home ...)
and link the directories (users,groups,projects) in /home to the real
ones in /cae. The only problem is some programs follow the link, so they
use /cae/users/bgmilne when I want them to use /home/users/bgmilne. But
at least this way, /home/{users,groups,projects} (that we had mounted
with fstab entries before using autofs) appear all the time, the users
don't notice they aren't mounted most of the time.
Regards,
Buchan
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Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Hi, I have a suggestion on how to improve the urpmi completion even more: It would be nice if the completions would also be available for gurpmi, as it's in the normal user's path. CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so they don't know how to use css, class, implicite class, etc ... ? The problem is that many mdk site need to be redesigned. the others websites (like mandrake-linux.com) are old and was designed for the only descent linux browser available at this time the so famous buggy, crap, ugly and closed-source called Netscape4 (which had problems to handle even CSS1 *SIGH*). -- http://www.chmouel.com/
Re: [Cooker] Error updating Samba-client
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: I got this error while updating packages tonight. error: %preun(samba-client-2.2.8a-12mdk) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Buglet in 2.2.8a-12mdk, fixed in 13mdk. What other info can I provide. I don't see any log entries. Please note that anytime you see an error in a %preun or %postun script, that the bug was most likely in the package which was just removed by your upgrade, so you should test the new package for the same problem, by running: # rpm -Uvh --force offending package*.rpm (which you may have to retrieve manually with 'wget `urpmq --sources offending package`' If that gives no errors, the bug you saw was probably fixed in the package you just upgraded to. All the tests I have done with -13mdk seem ok. BTW, anyone doing clean installs, having selected Network client, please indicate if you have problems with the smbclient alternative (ie 'smbclient' should run, not give 'smbclient not found') ... I saw an error once which I could not recreate. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/XxckrJK6UGDSBKcRAss0AKCOLyvQAfLUAZaUQUwqX+WiRwA+OwCbBFbd 1hfF+7KYE2tbCfyfoBHvaoQ= =JiLA -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Ainsi parlait Chmouel Boudjnah : Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are two patches for bash completion. just trying would be awesome to update the zsh completion as well /just trying Or at least just make it work. Current zsh package tries to emulate bash-completion, and fails miserabily: [EMAIL PROTECTED] guillaume]$ zsh /etc/bash_completion:53: command not found: shopt /etc/bash_completion:59: command not found: complete /etc/bash_completion:65: command not found: complete /etc/bash_completion:66: command not found: complete /etc/bash_completion:67: command not found: complete ... -- The problem with taking the easy way out is that the enemy has already mined it -- Murphy's Military Laws n°17
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so they don't know how to use css, class, implicite class, etc ... ? The problem is that many mdk site need to be redesigned. the others websites (like mandrake-linux.com) are old and was designed for the only descent linux browser available at this time the so famous buggy, crap, ugly and closed-source called Netscape4 (which had problems to handle even CSS1 *SIGH*). The question of course is, will the webmaster take patches? If so, where can we find cvs? Maybe community power can help in reworking the sites? ;-) Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/XxexrJK6UGDSBKcRAq70AJsF6nwZvzWvJ/b0gbIo+lYU7bVRPACggtbC N7Luv7sGAKvhvb4lDQOpsgI= =9/k7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia should provide kernel == 2.4
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Olivier Blin wrote: kernel-multimedia does provide kernel, but it isn't versionned : $ urpmf --provides kernel-multimedia [..] kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.1mm.6mdk:kernel [..] Yes I know, my bad. And since I am still trying to get 2.4.22 patched I didn't update (also the versioning should be changed a bit to be consistant with thomas' kernels: 1mm.6mdk should become 6mm.1mdk) Thanks Austin to provide the only kernel that doesn't mess sound with snd-intel8x0 driver. Actually, I packaged it, and I think it snd-intel8x0 will break if I update ALSA, which was a request from Austin (because jackd not liking older alsa). d.
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 11:42, Han Boetes wrote: Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 11:12, Han Boetes wrote: jokerman64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The fonts suck! [ snip: more of the same ] gee Safe this as ~/.fonts.conf: Um. Why the heck should we have to hack our fonts.conf file to workaround your badly setup website? Why not just fix the website? Simply changing the preferred font order to something like sans, verdana, helvetica would work perfectly well. I don't have root on that machine. I only have it on this machine. Besides, this fixes a whole lot of other sites as well. And I don't scold to people to get them to do what I want. I already politely asked about those fonts a long time ago and nobody reacted so solved it for myself. I didn't mean your as in you personally, Han, I meant you as in Mandrakesoft... I would really appreciate it if you would react to what I say instead of saying I misunderstood you because you said something else than what you said. # Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia should provide kernel == 2.4
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:28, Olivier Blin wrote: Thanks Austin to provide the only kernel that doesn't mess sound with snd-intel8x0 driver. Just curious - are you referring to the same problem I've been discussing with Thierry, some kind of malfunctioning 3D algorithm that's dropping out bits of the sound etc? It's so annoying now that I've dug out an old soundcard and installed that in my box instead... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:28, Han Boetes wrote: Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 11:42, Han Boetes wrote: Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 11:12, Han Boetes wrote: jokerman64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The fonts suck! [ snip: more of the same ] gee Safe this as ~/.fonts.conf: Um. Why the heck should we have to hack our fonts.conf file to workaround your badly setup website? Why not just fix the website? Simply changing the preferred font order to something like sans, verdana, helvetica would work perfectly well. I don't have root on that machine. I only have it on this machine. Besides, this fixes a whole lot of other sites as well. And I don't scold to people to get them to do what I want. I already politely asked about those fonts a long time ago and nobody reacted so solved it for myself. I didn't mean your as in you personally, Han, I meant you as in Mandrakesoft... I would really appreciate it if you would react to what I say instead of saying I misunderstood you because you said something else than what you said. I'm not saying you misunderstood me, I was posting a clarification because your reply made it obvious my original post wasn't clear enough. I know you're not the webmaster. I hope the other people who've posted agreeing with the original problem should be enough to convince whoever *is* the webmaster to fix this... -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Williamson wrote: I hope the other people who've posted agreeing with the original problem should be enough to convince whoever *is* the webmaster to fix this... Well, that's kind of impossible considering no-one else cc'ed the webmaster, and I doubt the webmaster reads cooker ... Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/XxztrJK6UGDSBKcRAiYeAJ9MulHdtNjWy3Fw9Aimaqatjpd+CwCgk55K 6K8D54O5vKJlW1QDBNQmmw8= =xlr1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:23:13 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so they don't know how to use css, class, implicite class, etc ... ? The problem is that many mdk site need to be redesigned. the others websites (like mandrake-linux.com) are old and was designed for the only descent linux browser available at this time the so famous buggy, crap, ugly and closed-source called Netscape4 (which had problems to handle even CSS1 *SIGH*). The question of course is, will the webmaster take patches? If so, where can we find cvs? Maybe community power can help in reworking the sites? You can try to contact Gaël who is in charge of web sites.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good luck :) -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpmdrake-2.1-35mdk
Fabien ILLIDE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When launching rpmdrake-remove in a console, I see these error messages : when *launching* or when clicking on a particular package? can't see it here.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# LC_ALL=fr_FR LANGUAGE=fr_FR LANG=fr_FR rpmdrake-remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q rpmdrake rpmdrake-2.1-35mdk Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected end of string) at /usr/sbin/rpmdrake-remove line 183. rpmdrake-remove is working anyway. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:49, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:45, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Williamson wrote: I hope the other people who've posted agreeing with the original problem should be enough to convince whoever *is* the webmaster to fix this... Well, that's kind of impossible considering no-one else cc'ed the webmaster, and I doubt the webmaster reads cooker ... Oops, good point :). So can someone please let us know who the webmaster is, so we can pass the thread on? Okay, thanks to Frederic, we know it's Mr. Duval who should be informed...so I've sent him a mail summarising the thread so far and quoting the more general CSS improvements that were suggested as well. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Galeon crashes quite often
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:07:21 +0200, Pascal Terjan wrote: Galeon crashes several times a day, always after closing a tab. I can't reproduce it as I may occur or not on the same page... Browsing gnome bugzilla I found nothing related... I'm preparing a new galeon which contains some crashes fixes.. Let's hope it will fixe yours.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake wesite fonts
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:45, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Williamson wrote: I hope the other people who've posted agreeing with the original problem should be enough to convince whoever *is* the webmaster to fix this... Well, that's kind of impossible considering no-one else cc'ed the webmaster, and I doubt the webmaster reads cooker ... Oops, good point :). So can someone please let us know who the webmaster is, so we can pass the thread on? -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Ainsi parlait Götz Waschk : Hi, I have a suggestion on how to improve the urpmi completion even more: It would be nice if the completions would also be available for gurpmi, as it's in the normal user's path. It seems to be just an alias for urpmi command, ensuring root privileges and graphical environment. Can i safely use the same completion function as for urpmi ? -- Don't look conspicuous; it draws fire -- Murphy's Military Laws n°28
Re: [Cooker] kernel-multimedia should provide kernel == 2.4
kernel-multimedia does provide kernel, but it isn't versionned : $ urpmf --provides kernel-multimedia [..] kernel-multimedia-2.4.21.1mm.6mdk:kernel [..] Yes I know, my bad. And since I am still trying to get 2.4.22 patched I didn't update (also the versioning should be changed a bit to be consistant with thomas' kernels: 1mm.6mdk should become 6mm.1mdk) It would be great to have a working 2.4.22 mm kernel, but could you upload a fixed version of 2.4.21 ? I'll use --nodeps in the meantime, but that's not a good solution. Thanks Austin to provide the only kernel that doesn't mess sound with snd-intel8x0 driver. Actually, I packaged it, and I think it snd-intel8x0 will break if I update ALSA, which was a request from Austin (because jackd not liking older alsa). Oups, I'm so sorry, I am of course grateful towards both you and Austin :) -- Olivier Blin
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2003, 14:23:53 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: Ainsi parlait Götz Waschk : I have a suggestion on how to improve the urpmi completion even more: It would be nice if the completions would also be available for gurpmi, as it's in the normal user's path. It seems to be just an alias for urpmi command, ensuring root privileges and graphical environment. Can i safely use the same completion function as for urpmi ? I'd say yes, just try it. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Shockwave flash player with Mozilla 1.4
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 12:30:58PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:28, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: I'm not a club member, i got the rpm from macromedia only. Oh, I don't remember seeing an RPM there when I downloaded it, just the executable installer...ah well. urpmi.addmedia flash http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/macromedia/urpmi/mandrake/9.1/RPMS with hdlist.cz never had a flash dependency problem L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Re: WindowMaker-Terminal now konsole??
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 03:48, David Walser wrote: I agree, this is caused by a recent change to kdebase-konsole that makes its xvt alternatives value take precedence over rxvt. I'm not sure I agree with that. I think users should have to change the alternative if they want konsole to be the xvt. If you don't have a menu entry for rxvt than it is a bit stupid to make rxvt precede over term's that have a menu entry. alternative has a problem that it doesn't handle gnome and kde well because they have a lot of associated programs you would want to use with them and not under an other wm
Re: [Cooker] RapidSVN in the cooker crashes
Yes It would be nice to have some nice GUI tool for managing subversion. There is also some Java based one and another one as an Eclipse plugin which I have not been able to test yeat. Mika Oden Eriksson wrote: onsdagen den 10 september 2003 08.37 skrev lamikr_mdk: Does RapidSVN rapidsvn-0.3.0-1mdk from the cooker work for somebody? If I add repository it will appear in the tree under workbench. But if I then click a just added repository rapidsvn will crash to segfault. I tried to build it against subversion 0-29.0 but was unsuccessfull, maybe Ben Reser is working on it? I asked him to be the maintainer of this one as well.
[Cooker] Bugmail Stopped
Sometime late last night or early this AM, I ceased getting the many bug mails I had been getting. I didn't do anything to halt this. Anyone else have this happen? I should have gotten at least 13 since the last I did get, as I filed bug 5462 early this AM. -- ...[B]e quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
[Cooker] Enlightenment is not installed with other desktops
At install, it is offered to install : KDE, Gnome, or Other Desktops. Decription of Other Desktops includes enlightenment, but E is not installed, it has to be installed separately. Eric
[Cooker] KDE bar is almost empty
After install, the KDE bar contains almost nothing : just the K, the desktop and the home buttons. Where are the other ones ? Shouldn't we have at least Konqueror, the help button, a text editor and KDE config panel ? Eric
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Web Site Fonts
Buchan Milne wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
Agree 100%, assuming this means the site still has Helvetica set as its
preferred font. We've spent years in the distro fixing the reliance on
this ass-ugly piece of bitmap crap, so why does the website of the damn
distro want to use it?! Since we now have such lovely fonts in Mandrake,
the website should have the default font set as sans, so it actually
looks half acceptable. Sites that default to Helvetica bug me so much
I've actually wiped the font from my system (I tried setting up that
thing you can do in fonts.conf that make it use Vera in place of
Helvetica, but I could never make it work), so now the MDK page looks
okay to me, but this is a hack I should NOT have to use.
I wipe Verdana from systems that come with it. Same for Bitstream Vera
Sans. Helvetica looks fine to me, though I like others better.
AFAIK, MandrakeClub now uses CSS for all style settings, and according
to Denis, doesn't set any fonts (though I will check later), however,
http://www.linux-mandrake.com is full of this junk:
font size=2 face=helvetica, arial, sans-serifbSeptember 9th, 2003
- Mandrake 9.2RC2/b - The second
release-candidate of Mandrake Linux 9.2 is available for download and
tests. Release informations and places to download are available a
href=92beta.php3here/a.
Time for an overhaul to bring the site into the modern css era.
Luckily I override some fonts ...
Please, can someone ensure this is addressed. Helvetica is not a decent
replacement for Arial or sans-serif, and should be listed last, not first.
Personally I find rather little distinction between helvetica and arial,
and in fact use arial as my default on systems on which it is installed.
Ha! I just looked at the CSS on http://www.mandrakeclub.com, and see this:
BODY {
color: #00;
background: #ff;
padding: 5px;
margin: 0px;
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
}
The above is very offensive, not so much the family as the size. Those
using high resolution displays like 1600x1200 or above see 12px as
microscopic little mousetype, if they can see it at all, unless using a
browser with a minimum font size enabled, or when using a text or page
zoom feature. If using the former override, then most if not all text on
the page will be the user's minimum, which eliminates all contextual
information that varying text sizes convey. Instead, no size should be
set at all, or the size should be set to 100%, so that the user sees
whatever size he has determined best suited to his use.
* {
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
}
Above is pure redundance, since the same is in body, and everything on
the page that matters is in body.
The same issue applies here, you should use instead:
font-family: arial, sans-serif, helvetica;
font-family: arial, sans-serif, helvetica;
is exactly equivalent to
font-family: arial, sans-serif;.
The browsers all use the first listed font they find. The only way
helvetica would be used in either case is when arial does not exist but
helvetica does exist and gets selected because it is in fact a
sans-serif font.
What really should be used instead is font-family:
sans-serif;
That way, the user's choice of sans-serif will be used, be it arial or
verdana or helvetica, or, heaven forbid, the Mandrake Linux installed
sans-serif default.
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Web Site Fonts
Adam Williamson wrote: Agreed. Besides, Verdana was expressly designed as a display font, and Arial was expressly designed as a printed output font. Verdana looks way better on screen than Arial, I've no idea why so many Windows users seem to use Arial as a display font... Maybe because arial is more attractive at normal sizes? To each his own. Usually those who think Verdana looks better are seeing it primarily at small sizes. At small sizes, it looks fine. At normal or larger sizes, its proportions are rather ugly. Verdana, and its emulator, Bitstream Vera Sans, are the largest fonts commonly available at any given size. People who design sites with either as the first font choice are actually seeing everything larger than normal, larger than those who do not have these installed. The best setting is none at all, or else font-family: sans-serif;. -- ...[B]e quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/auth.html
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Web Site Fonts
FACORAT Fabrice wrote: so they don't know how to use css, class, implicite class, etc ... ? The problem is that many mdk site need to be redesigned. The only one with a decent design is http://www.mandrakesoft.com others are crap. - link should not be underlined and should have a special color with a color change for hover event, for example : No, links should be underlined, so that users know a link is a link without having to hover. See e.g. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9605.html The same issue applies here, you should use instead: font-family: arial, sans-serif, helvetica; you should put Verdana before Arial as Arial sometimes is bolder than other fonts. No, you should put sans-serif first, and leave out arial and helvetica and verdana. That way, whatever the user has decided is the best sans-serif is the one that will be used. -- ...[B]e quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/auth.html
[Cooker] gnome crash after changing theme to gorilla
hi I just wanted to change my theme from a custom (industrial with other icons) to gorilla theme. That made the gnome panel crash over and over again. I opened gnome-control-panel via a console and changed the theme to industrial, and then it stopped crashing. changing back to gorilla theme makes it crash again. Can anyone verify this error? Best regards Kim Schulz
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Ainsi parlait Pascal Terjan : Guillaume Rousse wrote: COMPREPLY=( $( compgen -W '-a -p -P -y -s -q -v -h --help \ - --update --media --excludemedia --sortmedia \ - --synthesis --auto --auto-select --fuzzy --src \ - --install-src --clean --noclean --force \ - --allow-nodeps --allow-force --parallel --wget --curl \ - --limit-rate --proxy --proxy-user --bug --env \ - --X --best-output --verify-rpm --test --excludepath' \ - -- $cur ) ) + --update --media --excludemedia --sortmedia --synthesis \ + --auto --auto-select --no-uninstall --keep --split-level \ + --split-length --fuzzy --src --install-src --clean \ + --noclean --force --allow-nodeps --allow-force --parallel \ + --wget --curl --limit-rate --proxy --proxy-user --bug \ + --env --X --best-output --verify-rpm --test --excludepath \ + --excludedocs ' -- $cur ) ) please add --no-verify-rpm which is quite handy for contribs :) Fill a bugreport against urpmi, it isn't in --help output :-) -- The guy that has a bumper sticker that says If you can read this, You're too close always tailgates -- Murphy's Driving Laws n°2
Re: [Cooker] SATA support in Mandrake Linux 9.1.
d2ci1fj g1nf24 kirjoitti viestissn (lhetysaika Keskiviikko 10. Syyskuuta 2003 07:35): Hi, I am trying to install Mandrake 9.1 using a SATA drive and it is not supported. I posted on the installation mailing list and they recommended posting here. Is there anyway to install using a SATA drive? The problem is I need to install a driver. When I'm installing a page comes up and ask me to select a driver for hard/scsi. The first one on the list is a 3ware driver there are more drivers after that. I tried alot of them and keep getting an error message. I am using the new Western Digital SATA hard drive. Does someone know what to do? How about telling what SATA Controller you have? Or if you don't know, The exact model of the Motherboard will do... And if you don't know that either, What system do you have? Manufacturer? Model? Without any more info, it's impossible to help Regards Thomas
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Ainsi parlait Götz Waschk : Impressive, it's so fast. It would be nice if this would be included in 9.2. It will, unless someone finds a bug I can't fix in time. BTW, I already know one, but I won't expose it :-) -- Persons disagreeing with your facts are always emotional and employ faulty reasoning -- Murphy's In Laws n°12
Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 02:16:29PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Chmouel Boudjnah : Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are two patches for bash completion. just trying would be awesome to update the zsh completion as well /just trying Or at least just make it work. Current zsh package tries to emulate bash-completion, and fails miserabily: [EMAIL PROTECTED] guillaume]$ zsh /etc/bash_completion:53: command not found: shopt /etc/bash_completion:59: command not found: complete ... er, it is bash_completion fault. --- if [ $PS1 ] [ $SHELL = /bin/bash -a -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then --- it should check for $BASH $BASH_VERSION or similar, not $SHELL which is set by login. zsh completions should be modified independently from bash. zsh has it own completion metod, and has had it for much longer than bash, i do not use bash, so i will not compare the two. regards, L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
[Cooker] What happened to the lurvly Tux in my consoles (and how do I get hime back)
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Re: [Cooker] /etc/init.d/internet
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 01:53:24PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
Sorry, but I'm talking about /etc/rc.d/init.d/internet not network file!
D'Oh!
It's probably written by drakconnect,
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_{up,down} are also unowned ...
these are all spawns of the evil drakconnect
L.
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Re: [Cooker] Enlarge your bash completion experience
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ainsi parlait Pascal Terjan : Guillaume Rousse wrote: COMPREPLY=( $( compgen -W '-a -p -P -y -s -q -v -h --help \ - --update --media --excludemedia --sortmedia \ - --synthesis --auto --auto-select --fuzzy --src \ - --install-src --clean --noclean --force \ - --allow-nodeps --allow-force --parallel --wget --curl \ - --limit-rate --proxy --proxy-user --bug --env \ - --X --best-output --verify-rpm --test --excludepath' \ - -- $cur ) ) + --update --media --excludemedia --sortmedia --synthesis \ + --auto --auto-select --no-uninstall --keep --split-level \ + --split-length --fuzzy --src --install-src --clean \ + --noclean --force --allow-nodeps --allow-force --parallel \ + --wget --curl --limit-rate --proxy --proxy-user --bug \ + --env --X --best-output --verify-rpm --test --excludepath \ + --excludedocs ' -- $cur ) ) please add --no-verify-rpm which is quite handy for contribs :) Fill a bugreport against urpmi, it isn't in --help output :-) Guillaume, I saw it, you have been caught againt my mail filter... It is too late to add --no-verify-rpm (furthermore it is already referenced in --help). François.
[Cooker] Kernel-Secure missing from 9.2-RC2 ISOs?
I tried to submit this to bugzilla but for some reason it hasn't posted yet. Was it intentional to leave kernel-secure off the Mdk9.2-RC2 isos? Also, when selecting Paranoid (msec 5) during install, the firewall is disabled by default even though I've selected the firewall group during setup. I seem to remember it was locked up by default in 9.0 (please correct me if I'm wrong) -Evan
