Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:15:30PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/private/download/updates/90_i386.html Except if you use their .patch.rpms: RPM XFree86 4.3.0.1 (i586) 9938 kB Patch-RPM XFree86 4.3.0.1-patch (i586)344 kB At present we make huge updates (ie the kdebase one) for really small fixes (I'm guess a less than 5 kB source patch) which result in really minimal changes to the files distributed (I'm guessing less than 10kB), but we distribute full new versions of all subpackages ... There must be a better way ... the problem is that rpm does not support the concept of patches, i believe suse solution would result in rpm -V saying that files were modified. we could try producing xdeltas of fixed rpms and have urpmi ask for the original cd to produce the fixed rpm a better solution would be being able to modify rpm to allow patches to be applied. L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
[Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
When you insert the CD 1 of download edition (not tried with the powerpack) under Windows, the Welcome window shows 9.1 instead of 9.2. It is such details that make people say the distribution is rushed and not polished... Polishing is VERY important, and Mandrake should take care of it for the next distribution. Having a nice, clean Desktop at start, with a complete K bar would be nice, not two small icons (I signaled it on Bugzilla that icons should be in medium size at start. Anyway, since you are going to remaster the 9.2, please correct the wrong 9.1 Window title under Windows. Eric
Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
Eric Fernandez wrote: When you insert the CD 1 of download edition (not tried with the powerpack) under Windows, the Welcome window shows 9.1 instead of 9.2. It is such details that make people say the distribution is rushed and not polished... Polishing is VERY important, and Mandrake should take care of it for the next distribution. Having a nice, clean Desktop at start, with a complete K bar would be nice, not two small icons (I signaled it on Bugzilla that icons should be in medium size at start. Anyway, since you are going to remaster the 9.2, please correct the wrong 9.1 Window title under Windows. Eric i just wanted to say LOL!!! the title of the install disk (under windows of course) says 9.1! oh my god... i cannot beleave that your released it? whats next? calling it debian? LOL
Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego Iastrubni wrote: i just wanted to say LOL!!! the title of the install disk (under windows of course) says 9.1! oh my god... i cannot beleave that your released it? whats next? calling it debian? LOL sarcasm Yes, for an operating system that is intended to remove the need for Windows, the most critical feature is the version number on the software which you should never need to use after installing it. Maybe next time we should rather fix that than worrying about newer packages, fixing bugs etc? /sarcasm MS spent about a month replacing all the graphics in Windows 2003 (Windows .Net - Windows 2003). Does that make Windows 2003 any better? - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/nldLrJK6UGDSBKcRAqVgAKCXx8gIhHMcm9oiyrHSW9jlVMan1ACffGRU tjQT4IbfcAE3aMEtMBS2XhU= =oDQK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
Le mar 28/10/2003 à 12:47, Buchan Milne a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego Iastrubni wrote: i just wanted to say LOL!!! the title of the install disk (under windows of course) says 9.1! oh my god... i cannot beleave that your released it? whats next? calling it debian? LOL sarcasm Yes, for an operating system that is intended to remove the need for Windows, the most critical feature is the version number on the software which you should never need to use after installing it. Maybe next time we should rather fix that than worrying about newer packages, fixing bugs etc? /sarcasm MS spent about a month replacing all the graphics in Windows 2003 (Windows .Net - Windows 2003). Does that make Windows 2003 any better? I get your point, but having these kind of mistakes is really annoing, it gives a bad impression that not everything is polished although 9.2 should be the most stable ! And tho add to this : the huge amount of updates is another info about 9.2 not ready to be released It has been hold by Mandrakesoft for 3 weeks before been released, so why are there still so many (maybe tiny but ...) bugs ? Stef, trying to find a better way to be helpful. -- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
Buchan Milne wrote: sarcasm Yes, for an operating system that is intended to remove the need for Windows, the most critical feature is the version number on the software which you should never need to use after installing it. Maybe next time we should rather fix that than worrying about newer packages, fixing bugs etc? /sarcasm Buchan, I think you missed my point. I do not consider that version number the most important thing in the distribution, and I appreciate and recognise the quality of the work that everyone does here. If I criticise Mandrake here, it is because I love it ! I can understand that people who are disturbed by the fact they insert the CD and read and mismatching version number. And yes this kind of error has to be corrected, since it hurts Mandrake when you read a review that will use the same sarcasm mode in his text about rushing the release. An advice : remove completely that version number in the window title. It is not necessary, and will prevent any error in the future. For Stephane : I disagree there are a lot of bugs in the distro. The fact that the updates are big in size does not mean there are a lot of bugs. You may correct one little bug in KDe and anyway have to release 100MB of updated rpm. Eric
Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
--- Eric Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Stephane : I disagree there are a lot of bugs in the distro. The fact that the updates are big in size does not mean there are a lot of bugs. You may correct one little bug in KDe and anyway have to release 100MB of updated rpm. There is already 50 MB of updates for SuSE 9.0 and it's not even released yet http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/private/download/updates/90_i386.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vedran Ljubovic wrote: --- Eric Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Stephane : I disagree there are a lot of bugs in the distro. The fact that the updates are big in size does not mean there are a lot of bugs. You may correct one little bug in KDe and anyway have to release 100MB of updated rpm. There is already 50 MB of updates for SuSE 9.0 and it's not even released yet http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/private/download/updates/90_i386.html Except if you use their .patch.rpms: RPM XFree86 4.3.0.1 (i586) 9938 kB Patch-RPM XFree86 4.3.0.1-patch (i586)344 kB At present we make huge updates (ie the kdebase one) for really small fixes (I'm guess a less than 5 kB source patch) which result in really minimal changes to the files distributed (I'm guessing less than 10kB), but we distribute full new versions of all subpackages ... There must be a better way ... Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/nmvxrJK6UGDSBKcRArGHAJ9I54cdJYqzIkEWO78VsErY+EPU8wCfbxvp 4D5bWw+5iwcKOB4wEPW7GbM= =grzY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
Le mar 28/10/2003 à 13:40, Eric Fernandez a écrit : Buchan Milne wrote: sarcasm Yes, for an operating system that is intended to remove the need for Windows, the most critical feature is the version number on the software which you should never need to use after installing it. Maybe next time we should rather fix that than worrying about newer packages, fixing bugs etc? /sarcasm Buchan, I think you missed my point. I do not consider that version number the most important thing in the distribution, and I appreciate and recognise the quality of the work that everyone does here. If I criticise Mandrake here, it is because I love it ! I can understand that people who are disturbed by the fact they insert the CD and read and mismatching version number. And yes this kind of error has to be corrected, since it hurts Mandrake when you read a review that will use the same sarcasm mode in his text about rushing the release. I agree totally with this. An advice : remove completely that version number in the window title. It is not necessary, and will prevent any error in the future. I subscript to that also. For Stephane : I disagree there are a lot of bugs in the distro. The fact that the updates are big in size does not mean there are a lot of bugs. You may correct one little bug in KDe and anyway have to release 100MB of updated rpm. May be i've been too strong with 'many' but actually updates are : 259M which is quite big for a 'stable' version. I'm contributing also to translation in French and i found many tiny bugs ... not very important in reality, but annoying, like milsleading translations in urpmi manual page, ... Eric Stef -- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:27, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: I'm contributing also to translation in French and i found many tiny bugs ... not very important in reality, but annoying, like milsleading translations in urpmi manual page, ... This is good, not because they were there, but because they are no longer. Cheers; Leon
