Re: upcoming branching

[Pavel Raiskup]

On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:18:51 AM CET Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> it depends. if you are planning to do mass-rebuild after branching in
> all copr repos, then I prefer rawhide. If not, I prefer fXY.

We had some off-list discussion with Michal and he was talking about something
like "Settings -> Other Options" radio button:

[ ] Fedora branching: Copy builds from Fedora N-1
[ ] Fedora branching: Rebuild all packages from Fedora N-1
[x] Fedora branching: Nothing happens

Did I get this right?  Maybe we should have RFE for it?

The "copy builds" option is already sort-of implemented (worked for rawhide ->
stable branching) but some fixes are needed per bug 1400941.

Pavel

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Re: upcoming branching

[Igor Gnatenko]

On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 21:28 +0100, Michal Novotny wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Igor Gnatenko 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 16:16 +0100, Michal Novotny wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > as soon as branching is done and f26 repo links become available,
> > > we
> > > will
> > > switch the current fedora-26-* chroots from rawhide to use the
> > > f26
> > > repositories.
> > 
> > I'm more interested in fedora-27-* being added...
> > 
> 
> Hello, are you in favor of adding fedora-27 or rather fedora-rawhide
> back?
> This is more general question to the crowd. Both are technically
> possible
> but the question is what is less confusing. Does anything of it bring
> you
> less work? f26 -> f27 -> etc has probably higher maintenance cost.
it depends. if you are planning to do mass-rebuild after branching in
all copr repos, then I prefer rawhide. If not, I prefer fXY.
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Re: Random feedback from Telegram: Copr vs. AUR

[Pavel Raiskup]

On Monday, February 20, 2017 1:17:06 PM CET Adam Samalik wrote:
> Hey guys!
> 
> Just in case you run out of ideas about making Copr even better, I just saw
> this feedback on the Fedora Telegram channel comparing Fedora Copr and Arch
> Linux AUR:
> 
> "...
> 
> Justing W. Flory: Fedora has a similar concept with Copr, but it's not as
> widely used as AURs.
> 
> lian.rs: Copr is not quite that. Copr is more like Ubuntu PPAs, and lacks
> many features such as voting, forum for each package, being able to review
> the package before installing, etc,

Adding voting mechanism would be the easiest part, but I would vote against
re-implementing forum, maybe just re-using some trivial flask chat?

Having completely separate forum would be much wiser, because that would
be much, much more complicated database program than whole copr frontend
is.  And copr frontend should be as fast as possible; it not only serves
as users' interface.

> and most importantly Copr is a repo tool, not a packaging tool. You need to
> know in advance the repo that contains the software you want to install. It's
> not as convenient :("

The benefit of AUR is that you have everything within one "repository", even
though that's just repo which provides spec files.  What could we do here
actually?  There's search box in webUI -- it is IMO mistake that we don't have
this in client tool.  So I filed [1].  But what else?

> As a former Arch Linux user I kind of agree. Having some voting mechanism
> and maybe even the forum/discussions would be fantastic!
> 
> What do you guys think? I don't have that much time for Copr as I used to,
> but, as always, I'm happy to help with UI! ;-)

Thanks for the hint!  I'm interested in review of such features.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1425292

Pavel
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Re: upcoming branching

[Pavel Raiskup]

On Monday, February 20, 2017 4:16:38 PM CET Michal Novotny wrote:
> as soon as branching is done and f26 repo links become available, we will
> switch the current fedora-26-* chroots from rawhide to use the f26
> repositories.

Thanks for the update!

Regarding the future fedora-27-x86_64 rpm repositories ...  Will we
inherit built rpm packages from the actual fedora-26 repos?  That's
important to avoid re-bootstrapping or at least expensive rebuilding of
all the .fc26 packages (IOW, I'm definitely fine provide packages with
.fc26 dist in fedora-27 repos).

Thanks!
Pavel
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Re: upcoming branching

[Michal Novotny]

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Igor Gnatenko  wrote:

> On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 16:16 +0100, Michal Novotny wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > as soon as branching is done and f26 repo links become available, we
> > will
> > switch the current fedora-26-* chroots from rawhide to use the f26
> > repositories.
> I'm more interested in fedora-27-* being added...
>

Hello, are you in favor of adding fedora-27 or rather fedora-rawhide back?
This is more general question to the crowd. Both are technically possible
but the question is what is less confusing. Does anything of it bring you
less work? f26 -> f27 -> etc has probably higher maintenance cost.


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Re: upcoming branching

[Igor Gnatenko]

On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 16:16 +0100, Michal Novotny wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> as soon as branching is done and f26 repo links become available, we
> will
> switch the current fedora-26-* chroots from rawhide to use the f26
> repositories.
I'm more interested in fedora-27-* being added...
> 
> COPR team
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